Oh, that reminds me. Yesterday some six year old asked me if I knew how to make milk so I told him to tell me and he said you need to make it with cheese and water!
There was another six year old that told me he wanted to join the army so I asked why and he said the army is super cool and they fight all the bad guy. So I asked who the bad guys were and he got confused and then said whoever the army is fighting.
Kannagi
It is weird to me when you see so many children toys, books and movies that involve the army and beating the bad guys. like can propaganda not be targeted at children at least.
I had such vivid dreams of trying to find a shop that was hidden behind a bunch of shops It was like a magic shop but I imagine that it comes from the fact that I went to York for a few days and went to the Harry Potter street.
A dreamed that a man with voids where his eyes should be said to me "i shall grant you sustenance" and poured a thick liquid out of his eye voids into my mouth until i couldn't breathe
>>718430 Thats uh out there. I don't think I've had a dream like that. I've dreamt of hammering a piece of metal into a street with increasing intensity and police cartwheeling down the street but nothing as unusual as that. my nightmares are dream where I can't tell if I am dreaming or awake and I have a crisis between being unable to tell.
Apparently there is a big uproar about 13 reasons why, which I know nothing about but I have gathered that it is about sucide with teens. I have no idea why suicide is a big issue on netflix when you have so many fucked up films on there that are normal.
>>718435 i heard 13 reasons why was contributing to suicidal ideation in teens by encouraging it encouraging suicide but i don't know if that's true
Kannagi
Can you encourage suicidal ideation with film? It makes me think of the song gloomy sunday that supposedly got loads of people to commit suicide because it was so sad. >>718439 I suppose so, I imagine it would be amongst the most vunerable. I think humans are pretty easily controlled with lots of media but also feel like it takes a lot to want to end your life. My anxiety hasn't been super bad recently but if continued being horrible I don't think I would have been able to handle it well.
Kirara π
you can encourage people to smoke with a video you can encourage people to join the army with video i don't see any reason why you couldn't do the same with suicide
it takes virtually nothing to end your life wanting to end your life is a different matter entirely most people who end their lives aren't people who want to die, but rather people who feel like it's impossible to live
camus once noted that there are people who get triggered to attempt suicide after something as small as a friend snubbing them one day small things that can trigger it wanting to die and trying to die are totally different things
also Kirara both rob zwei and grabble zwei are basically proto-Orchidβs made based on her and prototypes that are/were obsessed with being the original/surpassing the original >>718442 i had a fun idea
I told this customer that we had run out of a certain product when we actually had some fresh stuff coming in a couple of minutes and my co-worker overheard this chased the girl out into the carpark as she was pulling away and flagged her down.
and I'm like >mate, that was some fucking Commitment to make an $8 sale and he was like >yeah but did you see how hot she was >how could you refuse a girl that beautiful
Once I'm in my new place I think I'll redesign my room. I have a crappy room now but i'll make a nice resting space. Something colourful would be nice and organised Man, Japanese otaku have so of the best rooms with everything colour coordinated, special lights, nice bookcases and neatly spaced things.
ζ
my tiny keyboard and alpha GPC arrived god bless i still have like five hours of work to do and ive been moving way slow with that shithole laptop keyboard
Anno
I'm still waitingo -waiting on my mouse. The truck's out for delivery apparently at least.
ζ
even though it's tiny, it's drastically better for typing it's a little cramped which is to be expected, but after about a minute with it i stopped making any cramping errors the only slowing down is formatting as it has a FN button and combined pgup/pgdn/home/end/del buttons with the F8-12 buttons and the lower-right hand side by the arrow keys is one really awkward clusterfuck i have to format an awful lot so that slows me down, but the amount of formatting is g going to change by project
Anno
Yeah I used a laptop keyboard for a while that had a really clustered lower-right side. It can get pretty confusing at times if you're moving between something like that and a more normal keyboard.
ζ
well this is the external keyboard thats cramped bc it's a tiny mechanical keyboard i opteded to go for a velocifire mechanical with brown switches it's an 11-inch keyboard, not even i dont think tiny thing, but it was like 25 dollars and i found it very useful in its portability so there's little buyer's remorse involved with the purchase even if i get a different one for general purpose, i'll always keep this around
the short time right before an important call you're waiting on for a meeting is so weird what can you even do you gotta be ready to answer and start working
Kirara π
just realized i don't know if we're doing a call at 2 my time or his time oh no
i just got my work finished now i tried to start at 7pm last night but i kept falling asleep so much i would make great time for an hour, averaging about 35 minutes per hour at my desk but after an hour my back would hurt or headache would kick up or id lose attention and i'd go sleep for 90 minutes
that means if i had my meds and could work uninterrupted i can make 35 dollars an hour, so 280 dollars in an 8-hour day but it in fact took me 20 hours to get that done because i slept for 90 minutes for every 60 minutes of work
this is complicating my life so much and i cant do anything about it ive been working so hard this week.
wordperfect too can't stand this ms word garbo i have to use every day you know there's no option to buy it anymore, just pay monthly service fee for msoffice products of 6 dollars meaning in the 20 months ive had this laptop and been using office products for work, ive paid 120 dollars in those monthly fees which should have been 50 dollars or something lump sum at the start not sure why clients are still using office but hey whatever
I reluctantly agreed to cover the Wednesday evening group tonight from 5-8 even though I'm already so busy, but I wanted to give the usual person who does it the day off because she's always overworked and I can tell she's getting burned out. I ended up having a lot of fun. It was a great group.
>>718597 im glad it was a fun group! im pretty pooped from my busy work week too i'll be lucky to take a short nap before i gotta get up and do another marathon tonight
>>718600 he sent me some weird texts in the early AM while I was working. my concerns aren't really quelled yet i will try to just leave him alone though i guess
i have to start watching out for my own mental health and mitigating my vulnerabilities anyway so i need to just let people be
did you happen to get around to trying that call? it's not a big deal if you didn't i know you're busy i was too
>>718610 Do you mean words sent off typo'd, or words you typed incorrectly on the first pass through? Because the latter is a fair bit of a crazy feat.
I don't think any English news media has any articles on it yet so here's a link to te /a/ thread with translated excerpts https://boards.4channel.org/a/thread/190729854/terror-in-kyoto-animation
Samu π¨π¦ !KW2DbpWwls
what dumbass incel conflagarated that up smh
FormerRei@mobile
They caught him though
Anno
>>718626 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE i don't like what happens
FormerRei@mobile
Night
Marsh shitposting on the go via Telephone
Is >You're doing better than i expected A compliment?
Anno
Take it as one. No sense in playing along if they really want to insult you.
musk will make it real as real as a brain interface can make it i guess someday heβs already on board with the anime and people will be super bored on mars
>>718778 Why did you do this? :,< Do you at least know how much effort it takes to cherry pick all those picks from the bottom of my heart with a mouse click? Well, Do you?
wow KyoAni studio fire is // was pretty bad. I only just heard about it. A guy screamed die as he set fire to the building and killed 23 people.
Anno
Well it happened about six or seven hours ago.
>>718794 The current toll I've seen was twelve people. There's a lot of injuries and people taken to hospital in life-threatening conditions though. It was their historic Studio 1 building, which is where they do a lot of meetings and many of the directors and staff like that gather. So these deaths are likely particularly damaging for the studio.
Kannagi
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-49027178 Apparently they have 23 dead at hospital but not officially annouced because of routine.
Kannagi
The guy who did it clearly had some sort of fucked up grudge against the company.
ToN
My granblue crew posted something about them being schizophrenic
Anno
It's pointless to determine why it's happened, this close to the incident. There's going to be so much information flying around that's going to be incorrect or evasive or manufactured that sifting through what's accurate and what's not is just a waste of time.
Kannagi
All I know from reading Japanese new sources is he said γγγ―γγγγ£γ¦γwhich is confusing to even Japanese new sources. He either is talking about being caught himself or implying that KyoAni stole work or something. There is pretty no information other than he said that, he was covered in gasoline and shouted ζ»γ as he started the fire.
A lot of fake news on twitter and 4chan though, a lot of people pretending they no who is alive and who is dead.
I don't know which is worse shit taste in anime >>718816 or shit taste in characters >>718817
Kirara π
>>718818 one is a blanket denial of something you like one is saying the best thing about the thing you like is something you don't like about it obviously ton has the more offensive opinion here!
sometimes the songs don't get removed, but replaced but spotify is dumb so they still disappear from your playlists
FormerRei@mobile
Ohio
!C0.PerkELE
i look onwards to the end of the world and see my own back
Kirara π
>>718830 nah it's not that the songs are unavailable usually songs that disappear are still there but greyed out and unplayable the Blue Hearts are no longer on Spotify at all
!C0.PerkELE
>>718834 then it is a copyright/money issue temporarily or permanently
!C0.PerkELE
i remember for a day or two everything under teosto was removed from spotify for compensation negotiation clash during license renewal
!C0.PerkELE
>In Finland, Teosto's permission is always required for public performance of music. Excluded from the requirement are private events with family and friends. [1] Pursuant to its contractual license policy, Teosto automatically grants a performance license and collects a performance fee on behalf of rightholders who are not Teosto customers. [2] Being a licensing agency requires approval from the Ministry of Education and Culture. The organization shall be approved by the Ministry upon request and for a maximum period of five years google tl our state sanctioned music mafia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy#Finland oh wow i never knew this was a thing no wonder empty dvds were so overpriced here >From 2015 on the funds come directly from the state budget kek
!C0.PerkELE
>VAT of 9% is added to the levies. and you paid extra tax to tge extra fees hahaja
>>718856 and when colonists move back "earth for the earthborn"
Kirara π
https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/594187/ >Mountain lions found the sound of human poetry disturbing.
animals are bothered by the unfathomably alien and eldritch sounds humans make when they aren't accustomed to them? who could have guessed
Kirara π
>βWe thought it would be funny to play political commentators,β says Suraci. βBut when we had to score the videos, and listen to Rush Limbaugh all the time, it wasnβt very enjoyable.β For their next experiment, he and his colleagues decided to use calmer fare, including poetry and nature writing that they themselves read aloud. They played these recordings through 25 speakers, covering a square-kilometer grid, and programmed them to play 40 percent of the time. >By tracking seven mountain lions that had been fitted with GPS collars, the team showed that the animals kept their distance from the grids, and moved more cautiously, when humans could be heard. Using camera traps, the team saw that medium-size carnivores were also perturbed: Bobcats became more nocturnal, skunks became less active, and opossums spent less time foraging. The only animals that benefited were mice and rats, which took advantage of the predatorsβ absence to expand their range and forage more intensely. To the rodents, the speakers provided a human shield.
we thought it would be funny to alter an ecosystem by scaring animals and forcing them to live under great stress and fear
>βThis study suggests that a conversation between two hikers can have a butterfly effectβa mountain lion moves more quickly, an opossum changes its feeding habits, deer-mouse activity increases,β says Kaitlyn Gaynor from UC Berkeley, who was not involved in the study. βPeople often fear large carnivores like mountain lions, but in reality, they are far more scared of us. And as this study suggests, their fear can reshape ecosystems.β
this is so stupid two hikers having a conversation will affect things in a small area around them temporarily playing speakers throughout a fucking forest throughout the day is completely different
Anno
It's worse than stupid it's factually inaccurate. A study of perpetual human noise is not going to simulate an occasional conversation between human passerbys and therefore the study does not in fact suggest what the article is concluding.
Kirara π
they only played the human voices 40% of the time but yeah it's not the same as a conversation between two hikers especially since they used 40 different voices including people with extremely angry tones like rush limbaugh
Kirara π
and there have been other studies that show this kind of effect so they did this knowing it would be harmful to the ecosystem
Kirara π
>Next, the team wanted to see whether a larger carnivore would behave similarly. In the Santa Cruz Mountains, they placed speakers at sites where mountain lions had killed large prey and were regularly returning to feed. When the cats approached, the team played either talking humans or croaking frogs. The frogs didnβt faze them. The human voicesβincluding those of Rachel Maddow and Rush Limbaughβmade them flee more than 80 percent of the time. literally purposefully disrupting the entire ecosystem to make a point about how we scare animals too much
Anno
Like I can see the potential value in experimenting with what they seem to be trying to suggest, in that knowing how animals might react to passing hikers or maybe some people doing deep nature camping can help us better act in those natural environments to prevent damaging it. But if that's what you want to examine, then make the practical examination at least more in line with the noise the animals would hear from the people likely to pass through. Not talk radio or fucking poetry.
Kirara π
looking through the article, they didn't do anything to mitigate any potential permanent damage they could have done to the ecosystem and don't seem to have even measured it or acknowledged that it was possible
Anno
I had to do a whole course on ethical research methods and I don't even want to be a researcher you negligent fucksssssss
Kirara π
>We employed a repeatedβmeasures design with each experimental site receiving either the human or control treatment for 5 weeks (treatment period 1), followed by the opposite treatment for a subsequent 5 weeks (treatment period 2) with 8 days of silence between the two treatment periods.
Kirara π
>Each speaker played a randomised playlist of human or frog recordings (n = 10 exemplars of each) interspersed by silence such that each individual speaker was broadcasting 40% of the time and silent 60% of the time. Speakers were thus continuously active, but presentation of cues was random and sporadic across the playback grid. The human treatment thereby mimicked a wildlandβurban interface in that human vocalisations were relatively infrequent, but from any location within the playback grid, a human could occasionally be heard at any time. >you could hear human vocalizations from pretty much anywhere in the experimental grid because each speaker was broadcasting 40% of the time individually
Kirara π
looks like each speaker individually had a 40% chance to proc every 5 minutes
Anno
That's kind of dumb. Sounds don't occur randomly. Like a bunch of human noises might be unnerving for animals to hear, but if they're at least moving in a directional vector and that makes SENSE.
Kirara π
yeah random voices from random directions at random distances from each other for five weeks would disturb the shit out of humans, too humans could develop anxiety disorders from that easily
i feel like this kidn // kind of stuff doesn't need to be actively engaged like that. it's really wasteful that knowledge and reasoning is definitely out there somewhere already, but our systems of organization are so bad that people either don't know it's out there or don't know how to find it, to the point where running an entire unnecessary study is going to be less resistance than simply accessing collective knowledge
i dont like that kind of a wasteful system and i want to tear it down
Anno
Or it's been deliberately quashed because it was a field of knowledge perfected by native peoples and all that knowledge has been discarded over colonialization.
Kirara π
there's a really cancerous mindset in western science that says nothing can just be evident without rigorous study 2000 years ago indigenous americans knew that birds intentionally started fires to chase their prey into the open, and that knowledge was passed down for generations
but then you see articles presenting it as a new finding, new information, never before known because we did a study!!
you can only apply so much rigor to the study of a dynamic system whose properties and velocity change with each measurement im normally for rigor, but not above fidelity
every time you perform a study that disrupts a natural ecosystem, you're moving the state of that ecosystem farther away from the knowledge we've already gathered on it unless you're going to design a study that drastically improves our understanding of an otherwise outdated system, it's irresponsible and negligent at best you're refreshing knowledge to a more isolated and less accessible state centered around you, with less reach at worst you're damaging the relevance of all accessible information
Kirara π
western science has become really detached from the reality it claims to examine whenever i raise these concerns when people are talking about research they always dismiss it like "well this is the best we have this is how we have to do it" so why do it it's possible to get useful results with some stuff but 80% of the time it's not generalizable even though it meets "rules" that say it is
>>718880 it's not the best we have at all that's laziness and ignorance
the potential study you want to do is actually a rigid system which you can analyze all you want without any disruption to figureo // figure out whether it's a useful idea or not before actually going forward with it that's not even like an abstract or formless concept. you can very rigorously quantify the potential gain and impact of a study with just some basic forethought and consideration nobody wants to do that shit because they don't understand that information is a physical construct and interacts in the same way physical forms do
>>718882 this is that concept I've returned to a lot over the years though, with more recent insights changing things a bit i always felt like people acted under complete confidence with incomplete information and that's why i used to get so angry all the time and also why ive always been so hard on myself when it comes to standards and expectations
it's only more recently that i've realized people aren't really sure most of the time and they're just trying to figure stuff out, which is a lot more sympathetic
though i wish if people were knowingly acting without full confidence then they would stop being so stubborn about being presented with contrary information or advice
ultimately it's not any individual's fault that they have access problems to information, any more than it's my fault i have access problems to healthcare you can't know how to access something you dont know exists, or when you dont know what channels exists for discovering or reaching that information
that's a big part of my focus, i think, on commutable systems there should be properties of a system that can be sorted and organized so you can identify what's relevant it's unreasonable to expect a specialized person to understand system equivalences in a field they aren't trained in
it's a very fundamental problem in communication
!C0.PerkELE
>>718872 and accompanied by smells and foot steps and so on
Kannagi
>>718884 It feels depressing knowing most people don't have all of the information or are unsure or confused.
>>718904 Yeah I think last one commitedw as in 90s or something, but it is legal just rarely used If you ask me, having the option to use it vs not having is beneficial for stability, just that you should never really use it, unless the deed is heinous enough
I think if you have death penalty, it should be somewhat brutal hanging decapitation firing squad etc lethal injection just kinda takes the terror out of it
Kirara π
lethal injection is probably the most brutal and terrifying method of capital punishment in the modern world
>>718912 that goes against every concept of execution even since the middle ages why would it be excessively brutal it's about removing someone who cannot be rehabilitated
!C0.PerkELE
but the idea is "to have them just die peacefully"
ToN
it is probably good to execute someone quick and painless without doing anything unnecessary
yeah ive been sleeping so hard, like through alarms and everything[ i dunno it's weird so i woke up at 10, and even with 10 hours of sleep my blood wasnt working so i had to go back to sleep for another two hours and started at noon
We torture you before killing you for breaking the law but it is just because you can't be rehabilitated yeah Or that very concept of rehabilitation really set in during Enlightement era
!C0.PerkELE
Yeah it is rehabilitation, that gets you shipped to australia for life or gangpressed into joining the navy untill god knows when or forced labour yeah, rehabilitation
!C0.PerkELE
Not to mention exections for spying or treason and so on rehabilitation and not to warn others what will happen to those caught or public hanging of those executed for a while heads on spikes in display to demonstrate that rehabilitated person was removed and not to drive in the message of "piss us off and this happens"
>>718959 That show triggered an influx of tourists there which resulted in a large number of Instagram photos of people just standing around there without any protection. It's really funny.
>>718962 Do you even need protection there now? I thought the levels were pretty under control since they've completed a lot of the containment buildings.
>>718965 Not really, but having it is recommended as is a geiger meter there might be some pockets that could be dangerous
!C0.PerkELE
basically breathing mask or something the radioactivity there is just dust at that point and while contact with it isn't that harmfull, but inhaling it might pose short to long term risks
>>718965 I mean, you're fine without protection if you spend less than like 30 minutes there. It's still unlivable. Animals there are still developing mutations, especially in regards to brain size and eyesight.
I have been wanting to go there for years, but if I go there now... I will be mistaken for a fucking HBO tourist >>718974 Ah naw it would have even untouched been just a local disaster I mean, it would have prolly spoiled ground water for good chunk of ukraine and so on but all of europe meh slight increase in background radiation at most, but then again, you already go to 5-10x levels whenever you fly and pilots and flight people aren't developing mutations or radiation sickness either
Fish and I were gonna try to talk today since we had some availability that lined up but the guy from NatLabs came early and my partner wanted to start the training earlier so it mixed us up.
But anyhow thing about radiation is, that the stuff that quickly affects you also quickly goes away leaving weak alpha and beta and usually just alpha behind and that can barely penetrate your skin at all the bigger risk is ingesting it
Samu π¨π¦ !KW2DbpWwls
iβm playin cards in the sun oof ow UV
Anno
Get done nice tan going on
Anno
crazy how we get to enjoy the product of several millions of dollars worth of production value and thousands of hours of work for $10
and i don't know if that's more crazy or less crazy than the fact that we get to enjoy hundreds of hours spent on a video game we can buy for $60 (or less)
>>718995 EDH is more fun anyways If I wanted to play a standard event I could just borrow someone's good deck. Instead of grinding in arena or god forbid paying for digital trading cards Now that's a real scam At least in mtgo you can buy singles And your cards don't disappear when a set rotates our *rotates out
Kirara π
how much do you think you can sell a bunch of cable receivers for
>>718996 I've paid for a single card and I have lot of ones that are fun, you can easily earn packs by playing. lots of free codes too for cards. Cards also can be got without paying with the token things
>>719001 any luck getting through to those folks? i guess not huh i imagine youd have said so if you did yeah, dang
it's been 10 days since my scheduled appointment and ive called five of the seven work days, 10 calls total, once to each line im getting to the point where im worrying myself into a state of nausea again
Kirara π
>>719004 nope left a message again I'll keep trying tommorow though
Kannagi
Also I think they might add historic mode to MTG:A
ζ
>>719005 you dont have to idek im probably gonna give up on it it's so dumb
FormerRei@mobile
>>719006 MMy other issue with mtga (quite possibly my biggest issue) is that they are putting it into consideration and when designing cards and have changed tge rules text on cards to make it easier for mtga players
And that is utter bullshit I don't want them taking mouthbreathers into account when changing my game.
Kirara π
>>719007 nah im gonna it's not troublesome for me to do so at all
I thought everything was exactly the same. there are still bugs because Arena is in Beta still
FormerRei@mobile
>>719010 Ajani's pridemate was changed to have "put a +1/+1 counter on it" instead of "you may put a +1/+1 counter on it" specifically because the designers thought players might accidentally choose not to put a +1/+1 counter on it And that's bullshit It's magic Magic is supposed to be complicated It shouldn't be changed to make it easier Especially not changing a card that akready exists.
>>719012 You realise thats a miniscule change for the fact that people can have loads of triggers for that and not respond to that immediantly leaving the game in a wait loop as each action has to be resolved? that sounds like some tiny looking for trouble with arena concern
FormerRei@mobile
>>719014 Yes But they also changed the card in real magic And that's bad And it sets poor precedent
Kannagi
>>719015 They standardise their cards across the board, I doubt they thought it was such a significant change that paper players would be horrendously impinged upon. I mean they do take into consideration how it effects both paper and arena. I doubt they are looking to mess with their paper audience and in any case they don't seem to want to change much up. >>719017 I don't know any really but I don't really mind, I quite like Arena. The may put a counter to put a counter is not really much to me.
Kirara π
they have changed cards before im sure
FormerRei@mobile
>>719017 It's pretty rare And usually not like this Mainly it's bit's bbeen retyping Or the making planeswalkers legendary Or when they changed the way paneswalkers were targeted
I don't think tey had ever made a change like this before
And for reference Aside from just not wanting cards to change I dislike this one because if its "may" I am not required to remind my opponent to put the counter on If its "put a counter" I am required by the rurules to remind them if they firget *forget
>>719020 You rather not be a good sport and remind someone when they forget a rule? wow
FormerRei@mobile
>>719021 If its "may" its not a rule. And yes That is how magic games are won and lost
Kannagi
There a whole bunch of static abilities with war of sparks that you have to remind your opponent about.
wow, >>719022 I guess I prefer to play against someone who doesn't lose an advantage because someone forgot a rule out of hundreds or whatever, it feels fair to remind them. In paper I would remind them. I wouldn't be happy to win by knowing I can just cheat them when they accidentally don't check a trigger or whatever. >>719024 >>719026 What you play with strats and out do each others plays and how lucky you are. I doubt it is all win and lose with waiting for a player to not declare a trigger knowing it would kill you if it was done correctly. that sounds cheap as fuck
FormerRei@mobile
>>719023 IIt's a competitive game In competitive formats you play for money and cards >forgetting a rule It's literally not a rule It's forgetting to take advantage of an ability
haha but the reason the game isn't very popular is because it's impossible to have fun playing it outside of your own group of friends the competitive scene is complete cancer and the players are intolerable it's just not fun
FormerRei@mobile
>>719023 IIt's not cheating either It's how you learn to be better at the game And
FormerRei@mobile
>>719025 I wish it weren't popular they're making it more mainstream every year
Kirara π
why do you want all of your interests to be unpopular
FormerRei@mobile
>>719023 YOh haven't been reading my posts very carefully If it is "do x when y happens" I am required to say "do x" if my opponent forgers to. If it us "when y happens, you may do x" then I am not required to.
Kannagi
No I haven't.
Kannagi
>>719029 And you prefer "may" so you can not tell them. I mean it they don't have a clue when to use a trigger its fair but I don't think it makes a fundamental different in the game. *difference. You still have loads of choice to make, and They haven't adjust many cards for arena, you just named one, I don't know any others.
>>719031 I'm naming one because it sets poor precedent. Also they made assassin's trophy worse on purpose by making it target opponent's permanent too.
Kannagi
>>719034 you are scared that once the ball gets rolling they'll ruin paper?
fucking deva and their *squints at hand* automated card games
FormerRei@mobile
>>719035 I don't support changing existing cards to make the game easier for new players.
Kannagi
>>719040 Irregardless of the overall impact to the game. From what I've seen all the changes are not to be NOOB FRIENDLY but because they aren't feasible with either how many trigggers they cause on pc where there is enforced timelimit for moves or whatever fucntional reason. Arena doesn't to me make the game noob friendly if you are scared of MTG becoming accessibly and ruining your skrekit club idea for mtg
>>719041 Ajani's Pridemate existed in mtgo for eight years and they had no problem there Maybe instead of changing the ccard they should fix their stack system?
tilde you here? >>719049 >>>/watch?v=rXlZR5bWKhk check out 16:10, the pachinko level it's a multiplayer level which is probably not what you were thinking about doing, but that might be an interesting spin on what you were thinking about it's a very vertical droppy level though, as, yk, it is pachinko
Anno
I'm here yeah.
FormerRei@mobile
>>719047 If they did then they would've changed mtgo to be like arena. And my real issue isn't "ree my sekrit klub" so much as the fact that they are using simpler mechanics to make it more attractive to new players while alienating the old ones
>>719051 YYeah Not recently But arena is just one example of a general trend I dislike
Kirara π
why does it alienate old players it's not even a simplification of a mechanic. come on
FormerRei@mobile
>>719053 I mentioned it was a trend They specifically chose not to bring back a mechanic i liked a lot because tey thought it was too complex for newer players
Kannagi
You dislike Arena not because it simplified right now represents a trend that will make more people come into the game with easy peasy roles like snap or family card games. I don't really see the game huge different from paper, I've been playing both paper and arena recently.
FormerRei@mobile
>>719055 Well, I dislike arena because I feel that the mechanics of the card game shouldn't be restricted by how well they work with a limited interface.
Kirara π
>>719054 yeah but if you look at OG magic, none of it was excessively complicated i was like 10 and was able to play it with my brother without any trouble because it was pretty simple yugioh is more complicated than original magic
Kannagi
>>719056 I doubt they are changing card just because of one part of their huge audience. Paper sells way better than Arena no matter how you look at it. If they change a mechanic and because they want to change it because they think they can make it better or bring it inline with other new mechanics or whatever I imagine they always get backlash because no one wants anything to change. I think its good they aren't afraid to change in the face of fanboys and keep the game innovative.
>>719057 That's the thing I like it how it is It's not complicated But I don't want it simpler And the mechanic they didn't bring back wasn't complicated in tge first place
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Although they did end uup bringing it back recently Which made me very happy
PANrela
yeah back in my day ygo was really simple but then Dragon Rulers happenes and then it was aslippertly slope
Anno
>>719048 Yeah that's kind of in line with what I was thinking. The see-saws slow the falls down which is kind of against what I was conceptualizing but the doughnuts are a good idea. I had music blocks in mind for similar stuff but the doughnuts do give a more uncontrollable bounce which is some good added challenge. Though I think you can only use them in the psuedo-3D map styles?
The imitation of the pachinko ball-firing chute is a really good notion though. If there's one thing I had to choose to take away from this, it would be that. By incorporating the fall reset mechanic at the bottom of the map I can probably save on vertical build and tweak a few more seconds into the overall fall. Plus I wasn't aware of how fast exactly those blue skull platforms actually get; I played through a story map with them a couple days back. At that speed honestly having a part of the challenge -be- the actual ride up to the top of the map could help extend the map duration. It's definitely given me more to chew on.
FormerRei@mobile
>>719058 I have no problem with them making new things in of itself It's changing old things that I have an issue with
Kirara π
>>719060 ygo is like the most complicated thing possible now there's so much shit it's probably impossible to learn it
Kannagi
>>719062 They just aren't allowed to change old things because old things should never be changed so old fans don't have adjust?
FormerRei@mobile
>>719064 PPart of it is because it can affect card prices If they change an old card and make it worse and its price drops collectors get pissed That's why the rserve list exists Honestly I don't like the reserve list >>719066 For the most part, pre modern stuff is pretty stable In terms if prices Because the legacy and vintage meta doesn't change much
Kannagi
I'm fairly inebriated Card prices affect collectors who have are constantly affected by changing meta anyway
PANrela
>>719063 all i know is they fucked the field and you share some spaces now o something
>>719065 Arena doesn't have modern. Arena doesn't even have that many cards that are from all that long ago. >>719071 The potential is what you dislike? because it could go badly you don't think changing old card could be positive or you can't envision it being not a dumbing down or making too complex or anything that is an improvement to the original
FormerRei@mobile
>>719070 II'm not really talking about arena right now I'm talking about the concept of changing existing cards
>>719061 Yeah, I mentioned originally about incorporating some obstacles onto the ride up. That's kind of what I meant. blue skulls are usually really dangerous and people set up all sorts of traps with them.
"donuts" are the platforms that will fall after you stand on them for so many seconds. what you're thinking of, which obviously should take the name donuts, are bumpers bumpers are available in all engines, not just new soup
if you want something more dynamic than bumpers, you can use springs-on-wings or track springs to cause a little mayhem (sideways springs probably) you can use springs in conjunction with those levers or one way gates, or just have narrow passageways through bumpers and have springs throw people away from where they're trying to be, or all sorts of stuff. you've got options there.
if you wanted to provide some character to the "firing chute" in a different way than danger obstacles or something to buffer the time, you can set up note blocks with enemies bouncing on them in controlled environments to make a controlled accompaniment and have a short jingle that they listen to on their way back to the top this is a fun mechanic that sometimes is used in levels to just showcase a piece of music, or in gimmicky/trolly levels to bring a recurring theme back when the player falls into the same type of trap repeatedly and you force them to listen to the intro jingle to never gonna give you up (or something else playful) before you crash them into a saw blade to die. it's got more oomph than just dropping them into a spike pit or lava from a death door/death pipe
since spawning stuff will change when the note blocks begin triggering, you can only do this in controlled settings where the player can't stop or start moving to throw the timing off, so a ride like that is a good opportunity to put something like that in
>>719070 theres a certain amount of stability in the meta and if they start changing shit all willy nilly that goes away A good argument for why careful design is important is yugioh Yugioh changes all the time It's a clusterfuck They constantly ban cards And the new cards always make the old ones irrelevant >>719076 Not nearly as often as yugioh
Kannagi
>>719075 They ban a bunch of cards in a whole bunch of formats in MTG?
Kirara π
yeah but like magic is basically a scam because they ban entire sets of older cards from a ton of the competitive play every time new cards come out
FormerRei@mobile
>>719077 IIt's not banning It's rotating out The entire point of standard is only using the last several sets. They don't rotate out of modern, vintage or legacy. There are issues with not letting things rotate out For example Look at how much the meta changes in the eternal fornats And then compare how much the decks cost in standard to modern Or legacy Or vintage
Kannagi
>>719078 Rotation is still fairly profitable for them.
FormerRei@mobile
>>719079 IIt is profitable but it brings change to the format and prevents the meta from stagnating
Kannagi
>>719080 You don't mind change in the form of rotation for the sake of meta but you are upset about changing "may" on a card
FormerRei@mobile
>>719081 Making new things = good Changing old things = bad
Kannagi
Thats kinda limited view. They can do whatever with whatever cards if they think it'll make the game as whole better. I doubt there are any analylitics that says changing old cards is always bad. or preserving old cards is good
technically they changed the card in a reissue so you should just look at it as a new card problem solved
Anno
>>719072 I'd seen a map with a narrow passage with some sideways springs yeah, especially if they're moving it can make it really hard to slip past them without getting jostled and even kind of disorientated, hah hah. The thought of making some music in Mario Maker is kind of endearing too. It reminds me of those old Mario Paint or some unofficial Mario engine where people would make up automatic maps that play out music using the various sound effects of the Super Mario World tileset. I dunno if Mario Maker's geared towards that being a feasible thing at higher levels of complexity but even simplistic stuff would be pretty fun I think.
im really hungry i wish i could go to the grocery store i wish i could make a dinner and share it with someone
it's starting to actually cause me physical nausea, the distress i feel over how much money is unnecessarily wasted from using food services and delivery and stuff it's not that i can't afford it, but i grew up so poor, you know like i grew up trying to make five dollars be dinner for three kids and a few adults, and often times people not eating so others could
the laze and apathy around here causes me a lot of undue agitation and i dont know why i think there's something physiological going on because there's no reason for me to be so affected by everything
i do kind of want some fried chicken though i haven't had that in a long time there's no churchs or popeyes around here though only jank-ass kentucky fuck chickens
one of my guys at the clinic is a vet on 100% disability 10% for tinnitus 90% for ptsd he's got 38 guns at home and the va wants him to write a letter verifying to them that he is justified in owning firearms because of his ptsd
Anno
>>719087 I know right. Whatever heraculean feat was responsible for that I want some of that shit.
>>719111 For Arena, probably not. But if those changes were moving to paper, that'd be all kinds of bad.
Kirara π
>>719113 why. what's wrong with the reissue of a card having a change why is that a big deal if it was exactly the same but with a slightly different name no one would have any problems
Koi
>>719114 yeah, you're right. That's cool. But changing paper isn't something you really want to do because it messes with the stability of a deck. You want the cards to work the way they were printed. Because the cards themselves are the game. Getting your old card changed for a new ruling or errata can kill the basis of your deck. >>719116 The deck is the game. When you change a card, you can potentially break the purpose of it.
Anno
Why is messing with the stability of a deck bad?
Kirara π
How is it changing the stability of the deck? If you have the old card you're playing a mode where old cards are allowed, it's not like they're going to say you have to change it to the newest version.
Kannagi
I doubt they make changes lightly though. given how little they have changed I think they have to be aware of how deck stability works.
>>719115 You're not explaining why that is bad though. Unless you're arguing that change is defacto bad and breaking things that worked in the past are defacto bad and NEITHER OF THOSE TWO THINGS ARE TRUE.
Kirara π
and yeah it seems like they want to create change and keep the meta changing what better way to do that than mess with deck stability
>>719120 Change isn't an inherently bad thing. But players want to be able to trust their cards. They want to know that Remand works the way that it always worked. That their Tooth and Nail combo works the way that it says on the cardboard. An errata change is a big deal on a physical collectible game because it opens up that can of worms where you can't really trust the cards themselves to mean what they mean. Meta changes, for MtG at least, is done through their rotating game modes (Standard, Modern, Extended, Legacy, etc). The game stays fresh. There's no problem with that. I was sad when my first Standard deck rotated out but you learn to keep up.
Anno
You can still trust cards if the effect text changes though. Acting like a new version of a card retroactively devalues the trust of all cards that came before it and come after it is just plain stupid. It's not going to magically change the versions of the card that came before it.
There is virtually no difference between a card getting rotated out because it was part of a deprecated set or if a new version of the card has a different effect. >>719125 What? No there isn't.
my package arrived i got gpc pram and adrafanil god bless
maybe i can get my brain normal again now
Koi
>>719123 What? Yeah there is. The newest version of the card would claim precedence. If they errata a card, and you're playing with the OLD physical card, the ruling as far as how it works is going to refer to the NEW version of the card. So yeah, it's very different. Rotating out of Standard just means you can't play that card in Standard. Changing the card itself means that the card is different in all game modes where it's legal.
>>719130 Don't pate me Kyoani is on fire or rather Kyoani is ashes >>719132 Sup
Anno
>>719131 There's been a few reported found alive. The director of Violet Evergarden is safe. Unfortunately last I heard the director for Hyouka, Full Metal Panic, Amagi Brilliant Park, and some other notables is still missing. Which isn't good.
!C0.PerkELE
>>719134 damn considering those are about the best shows kyoani has done
Anno
>>719133 They've got numerous buildings to their studio; the only one that was set on fire was their Studio 1 building, which doesn't do a lot of animation, if any, these days. But it holds their archives and director offices and child care centre, which is why a lot of the unaccounted for employees are the director and non-animator staff. The building is also still intact and could probably be restored. So there's a lot of stuff for them to still operate with.
It's probably going to set the studio back quite a bit though.
!C0.PerkELE
btw was there even really more hyouka to adapt? I think where the show wrapped up was kinda perfect ending for the series maybe some in between stuff, but in terms of chronological continuation
>>719133 unfortunately i can't do anything about it besides speculate and im not in the speculatin business
!C0.PerkELE
>>719136 No that kind of fire pretty much condemns a building it might appear intact from the outside, but the insides get usually so damaged, that it just has to be demolished you can't rebuild those without taking apart the "shell"
!C0.PerkELE
not to mention the water damage
Anno
There's no visuals from inside the fire so we don't know the extent of the damage inside. I'll withold saying anything with certainty until okay nevermind.
!C0.PerkELE
any building fire that doesn't completel wreck the building, actually ends up having more water damage than fire damage
>>719142 I have seen footage of the fire and from what I have seen of similir cases, it is usually followed with demolition but yeah it might be restorable, but I'd say 9/10 it gets wrecked
Anyhow, what I basically mean is that some support structure within might have been damaged and you can't really restore those without damn lot of construction work sure if it was some protected historical building and if kyoani really likes to have this building around then yeah, with enough money and time it can be restored But speaking in terms of time and money, it is cheaper to just demolish a building at that point then do lot of calculations and hard planning how to make sure each floor is properly supported once more. But I don't know japanese architecture nor mentality when it comes to this, but I do know that this particulr building is iconic to Kyoani branch, so who knows
this stupidass game gives me all these useless honor tiles and NO sequences have to just lose hands to bad luck because i get the worst hands possible
// i dont really have commentary on the fires it takes me a long time and a lot of patience to digest information
>>719150 yeah thats the meme i heard it better in a thread somewhere it was like >people say this game isnt about luck but how am i supposed to make a hand when i literally get dealt only honors and terminals
Anno
You're pretty close to Thirteen Orphans though, aren't you?
Anno
>>719148 It's the building they originally worked out of before they managed to get big and have the resources to branch out. So there's likely a lot of sentimental in-company attachment to the building. Though that might be neutralized because of this. So who knows.
sandwhich >>719153 considering japanese superstition, yeah they really dislike buildings with dark history, meaning suicides, deaths, and especially murders >>719154 wha I just found the situation funny, when I am between two posts that I want to reply to, and waiting for them to finish posting to be polite for once >>719151 Mm, true, but part of that decision will be made by whatever city council there is I doubt Kyoani actually owned the building, but just rented it out or even if they owned the building, I really doubt they owned the land.
Why litigate it? Someone murdered a lot of people. A lot of people died in a horrific way. You're already talking about restoration of the building! Isn't that weird?
It feels like incredibly bad taste to be talking about restoration of a building where 34 people just died in a fire especially when there are still people missing and tragedy is ongoing. It feels a little disrespectful. Who cares about the building right now?
Even outside of the people directly affected, this is the biggest mass killing in Japan in like 40 years. So many people in Japan have grown up feeling safe and then this happens. It's going to affect the entire country pretty significantly, their mental health. Japan is a country with unconventional standards of mental health and high suicide rates and trauma reactions from this will probably cause a lot of people to suffer.
Anyhow since I do feel need to explain >>719156 it is a cultural joke here, and I sometimes let those slip by it is based on finnish media reporting on events any time some tragic big event happens somwhere, there is always "No finns died in it" if a finn dies in it, it is a big event and based on death toll, some dark comedy website did a calculation that was like 1 finn = 10 europeans = 100 asians = 1000 africans = 1 panda, if it was cute and you have to reach atleast this milestone in casualties, to be news relevant
>>719160 Yeah back to seriousness This is going to affec them I can very clearly recall a bombing that happened like... 5 klicks away from where I was now, a shopping centre I at that time visited weekly just some rando doing it shocked the whole country and nothing like it had happened since 30s
So something like this must really shock them, especially since it will also hilight their whatever fire safety regulations and so on not to mention the quite random motives of the perp It is going to be a hard tumultous 2019 for them from now
Kannagi
It is horrible what happened, I think life insurance is common to take out in Japan because if you ever lose your job your can commit suicide and have your family be supported by insurance money. I don't know what services Japan has for mental health and healing, its all fucked up. There are a lot improvements being made especially with looking after those with no family anymore at old age. Japan is increasingly taking more notice of mental health especially after some of the natural disasters.
Koi
wow
Koi
bleh. i chose a bad time to b hungry.
!C0.PerkELE
>>719166 I do wonder if it is bad mental health services or just cultural pride interfering with using them?
Kannagi
>>719169 Its bad, it isn't like a lot of people are even aware of access to a lot of things. Some of it is the nail the sticks out gets hammered down but they took a very long time trying to deal with the Hikkomori Crisis and it wasn't handled very well.
>>719173 >Sogen Kato was believed to be the oldest man in Tokyo up until 2010 when officials finally entered his apartment and realized that he had died at the age of 79 in 1978. His death had been kept a secret by his family who were collecting his pension. This lead to a huge search for all people over 100 years, and it turned out that Japan couldn't document the whereabouts of 234,354 supposed centenarians. included pasta with comic, dunno how accurate, the author has a lot of inaccuracies there at times.
Kannagi
>>719173 That is depressing. I saw an article I was I never read that talking in detail about the state they find peopel in, it had pictures in it and it really messes with me remembering them. I wish I could never have read the article.
>>719192 my serious theory is the katana is lol katana kanata is a robot and he's doing things without knowing it but he has limited access to information about what he's been doing which is why he knew everyone needs to put their helmets on
>>719198 My serious theory is there's someone on the ship acting as a double agent protecting the kids from whoever threw them out into deep space. They sabotaged the communications relay because they want the antagonistic force from knowing the kids are alive, which they would have realized if the Astra had sent messages back to human territory.
!C0.PerkELE
>>719202 oh yeah why was your Chapter Master of the Ultrasmurfs burnt when he got hit by leaf blade?
>>719206 Machamp? He has flame orb, which sets him on fire. He has Guts so her gets 1.5x attack instead of getting halves when statused, and burn got nerfed down to 1/16 instead of 1/8 damage per turn too.
>>719208 ah that set up well much better than the way too common, atleast from your matches that item that makes you take dmg, but you deal extra tier of dmg like seriously everyone has that
I watch towards the end of the world and I see my own nape
Kannagi
baby got back
Anno
>>719213 This is drifting into deeper speculation but the antagonist force may have had other courses of action or just access to resources that would have made them broadcasting their location (even if it was five-thousand light years away) dangerous for the kids. Especially if communications were established they could have told the kids to just stay in one place for "rescue" or guide them to a location. I'd just assume if there's someone that wants the kids dead, keeping the agency that wants them dead under the assumption they are is the safest possible option until they're out of deep space.
cloudy with an excessive heat warning and a flash flood warning the moon holds no sway here
Kirara π
>>719222 yeah, fair i wonder why they were chosen i wonder if the intention really was to kill them
Anno
The fact that we have to rely on broken telephone from a little kid who overheard some people talking when she woke up in the middle of the night definitely makes it suspicious, yeah. It's a pretty engaging mystery they've set up, I'm excited to see how the clues reveal themselves as things continue.
completely unrelated but I still am bit ruffled by that "astigmatism makes you see light as stars" from earlier this week
ζ
>>719198 im not gonna think about it too much honestly because it's actually so fun to watch that i havent been thinking but im not on my meds either
i was thinking about how // just how much SHIT is going on all the time in this show the recent episode made me think that this would be a really fun campaign thing like fuck, having to roll to shoot the bird with the glue it's comical how much random shit is happening in it i would love to see something like it integrated into a co-op VR experience like a campaign, or even real-time events or whatever those things are called
like how fun would it be to designate the teams to go perform tasks and if they fuck up the ship's gonna crash or maybe something less game-ending but still undesirable and the little groups are gonna have to think on their feet to solve some weird problems that come up and possibly even have one person secretly be a saboteur who has specific win conditions that they have to plot around early on
wouldn't that be cool?
Anno
It strikes a neat balance between more elaborate mystery and plotting and goofy shounen themes like a gun that shoots projectile auto-setting sealant and planets that have giant trampoline trees and dragons.
>>719236 It was an hour-long episode one release. The following episodes are normal length.
a little bit more sophisticated i think, but yeah that kind of social cooperation and deception stuff mainly the cooperation though. the saboteur would be a fun add-on, but mainly having the group work together to survive
splitting up into teams would be more to tackle different duties than to work against each other
Kirara π
zoinks gang let's split up
Anno
It would be a neat game option to either have every one cooperate or have one person operating on secrect objectives. Wouldn't even have to necessarily be a saboteur it could be there's some extreme hazards that only the individual is equipped to resolve and they need to move throughout the instance cooperating with the rest of the players while also completing their additional objectives secretly.
let's do it in real life we'll all draw from a hat and one of us has to kill everyone else while everyone else is trying to survive if they get found out everyone else can just survive like normal
i think of ToS and the vampire role how if there happens to be a vampire (very rare) they turn one person into a vampire every other night everyone has their own win conditions based on their role at the start, but once turned vampire their only goal is to have all survivors turn vampire any given vampire need not even survive in order to win. they just have to have only vampires survive at the end
whatever happened with that one movie where it was like You have to kill four of your coworkers, otherwise, eight of you will die. And it's in some company building that posed as some basic company office but was actually some kind of experiment
Kirara π
>>719244 I heard it was shit but i haven't seen it
Koi
damn that sucks, it's such a nice premise too
Koi
well, not that nice but it was an interesting trailer
Anno
>>719243 If there's class-based mechanics kind of like how in Kanata no Astra each kid kind of has a specific skill trade they excell in, there could be long-scale win conditions for each class. Like for example Luca, the kid who's good with resins and fiddling, could have a win objective of using his tinkering and resins to keep the ship's reactor from overheating and going critical, but it's a complex multi-stage process that focuses on moving from the reactor chamber to parts around the ship and back, while more broadly there's smaller disasters that happen throughout the ship that either require his skill set or more than one player to cooperatively resolve the problem and so you have to balance your main objective with the smaller problems that arise, keeping your focus and not wasting too much time forgetting what you need to do next. And at the start of an instance one player is randomly also given the saboteur or rogue agent role and has additional conditions to win by. Though maybe that's a bit unfair for the one player that has to juggle all that stuff, so maybe the saboteur/rogue agent objectives can overwrite some of the vanilla class objectives to prevent one player being too overburdened.
when I think about it, that's where it all began. My love for / desire to be Koishi. I'm gonna just walk around and fuckin eat your food. And no one will notice. Remilia shut the fuck up I am trying to enjoy your cake.
my thought process was >Someone boisterous >but that's like everybody >what about Shikieiki >no way >Shikieiki but boisterous >and does that one pose >with the stick >Miko has one >and a CAPE >and a SWORD
>>719267 Your logic is weird, but considering, if memory serves when waay back we did a 2hu /moe/ thingie I got slapped as marisa "bcause he talks weird, just like da~ze~
Anno
>>719258 Yuugi. All you want to do is drink and fight.
I mean, I am bit of a clausewitz when it comes to war, but I think a short war is the best war, but it has to also be the most brutal and decisive as possible, to ensure maximum amount of peace afterwards Leave the threat of "THIS HAPPENS IF YOU DO" and if they do each time you remind them as BRUTALLY as possible what is the consequence maximum amount of peace with maximum amount of terror of the consequence
!C0.PerkELE
but even clausewitz wasn't a proponent of war, he just considered it the final step of diplomacy, but at the same time failing at just that.
I do pose a lot and actually am well bot holding, but holding with my crossed legs a backscratcher that doubles as a shoehorn, shaped like a sword that I tend to swing around randomly while watching stuff.
!C0.PerkELE
>and I wear my jacket as a coat at times when it is hot >during summer I wear a poncho hmm...
I wish but Sekiro has abused me to the point of trauma so nah
FormerRei@mobile
I saw a Japanese girl wearing t shirt with lancer on it at the Japanese restaurant I was at earlier.
!C0.PerkELE
>>719312 >writer GRR Martin so... the script will never be done and a tv show of Elden Ring will finish before it is finished
Anno
>>719317 He's done a bunch of smaller non-ASIAF stuff while putting off writing the sixth book. So this is obviously just another one of the diversions. It'll get done.
>>719318 btw I pet /bet he WAITED for the show to finish t o see how that version of the story fared out and will now actualyl write the true ending or whatever
>>719320 Unless Martin is lying, he's gone on record saying the reaction to the television show will not change the intended ending he has for the books. And apparently the finale to the television series is a direct instruction from him on how he wants the story to resolve.
My dad also believes he's been holding off writing the books until the show finishes, but not because he wants to pan the ending before he puts it down on paper.
>>719322 The show followed his instructions and even after he left it, I bet he left behind clear enough plot points to give us atleast somewhat of a same story that will happen
But this is like say... After midway point of Empire Strikes Back, you have someone who has never seen the movies, get the main points from that point on, but not the rest of it like >vader is luke's father >vader kills the emperor and few others but not the meat between the bones
Also yeah if he had finished the books while the show was running it would have presented two different versions of the story very clearly different versions of it competing with each other now releasing the books Post the ending he most likely will get more sales ... maybe? and atleast profit from having people buy the books just to get a different story compared to the tv series, ignoring completely the quality of it in this scenario
FormerRei@mobile
>>719321 She was speaking Japanese with her parents
BUt I will say this I seriously doubt Aria will kill the Night King or if she does, it will be completely different from the show It could have worked, but I maen...
Anno
I've actually seen some pretty interesting fan interpretations of how Arya is actually the prophecized Azor Azhai and not Jon like everything on the surface points towards.
>>719327 Considering he closed off his first book in the series by executing the presumed main character and has populated his series with other pretty infamous left hooks. I think his desire to subvert things is pretty open at this point.
>>719326 but the point here is, how much does GRR Martin actually want to subvert stuff he has written 5 books pointing Jon Snow towards this big clash between him and the night king
with while night king being kinda irrelevant, but at the sametime relevant element in the story the ultimate "our politics don't matter before Death" but it really does fall down to how much has he himself changed as an author over the years
>>719326 Yeah, but that kinda set the MOOD for the series from that point on If in the book Jon Snow did indeed die and won't be ressed it will work but if he is ressed, well then you have a chekov's gun in the form of a "knows nothing" he will have to have been ressed for a reason, and even if you do "well he was ressed for no reason, subvered your expectations" the result will be in a quite good chunk of readers as "uhh... kay... that was lame"
!C0.PerkELE
Like take an example from Naruto the hokages when they were ressed by orochimaru, the only thing they served in the plot was ex... story revealing and then after that, they did practically nothing yondaime had a some amount of role, but otherwise none of them really impacted the story at all and could have been just not been there at all
which of course left good amunt of readers just going "huh, that was lame" So I kinda doubt Martin would actually, if he does Ress Jon, not use him for something big
Also i seriously doubt jonxdany happens in the books
!C0.PerkELE
tht kinda stuff is propably why Martin left the show
!C0.PerkELE
or Jamie x Brie of tarth
Anno
Incest does kind of run in the Targaeryan family so I dunno, it's within poetic reach.
Also there is that whole other Targaeryan kid the kid that was supposed to be dead running around with an army and well spider being completely different character from tywin's death onwards
Btw if dany had ANY sense she'd never return to the 7 kingdoms just send envoys and establish diplomatic ties and just set herself in the slaver's bay and rename them as Freedom Bay or soemthing
she'd have an entire new kingdom to rule, expand and pass on to descendants, well she is barren I think?, but to some other dynasty Hell maybe even set up a republic of some sort
Anno
She has zero incentive to set up a republic, she was raised to believe she is a queen, her actions in the series lead others to treat her as a queen, everthing in her life reinforces her belief she is justified to be a queen. And madness and obsession, conveniently, also run in the family.
>>719335 Yeah but the point is, why go and be queen of seven kingdoms, when you could be queen of the old Valyrean Empire and just conquer all the free holds and possessions of the Valyrean Freehold >>719338 true but first you'd set up a good basis of power and then go sail over the sea not sail over the sea and then set up a basis of power
Anno
And why not be queen of all of it?
Anno
She also doesn't care about being queen of Essos. I mean she'll take it if she gets it but she has a determination to recover the throne she full-heartedly believes is RIGHTFULLY hers. That to her matters more than anything else.
The curiousity I have more than anything really is if the fate of Jaime is going to be the same at the end. His character arc has seems to be that he is diverging from the mania that Cersei has fallen into
!C0.PerkELE
>>719343 I think that too is a plot point, not the jamie vs whatever his face but die with cersei
!C0.PerkELE
or rather HE kills cersei and then dies
!C0.PerkELE
Cause there is that prophecy Cersei heard and Prophecies, despite all fantasy trope avoidance Martin does, are heavy in ASoF
I am actually rereading the series rn tho there was likea year long pause between 6 and 7th book but well it reminds me of just reading the series the first time
Anno
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosamund_Pike
This lady's set to play the ... lead? as Moiraine.
Yeah I think she fits the character well but I'm confused about the status as lead. I guess as far as the first novel goes she is the guiding force but that's like saying Ian MacKellen was the lead for Fellowship of the Ring. McKellen even.
>>719363 LotR leads are Hugo Mortenson and Elijah Wood
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That's what I'm saying.
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But hey is that primary source or just some news outlet stuff you have to remember we live in current year of 2019
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Moiraine is one of the main characters, but the main leads are actually Rand, Matt, Perrin and Egwene with seconady leads being Nynaeve, Aviendha, Min, Elayne, ... but anyhow, Moraine is a secondary lead, but she actually has like... 5? chapters in the main series from her point of view
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As far as the first book goes I think I can understand the argument for her being the lead.
>>719372 She is more of a plot-lead, than a character lead but yeah, she is part of the main cast in terms of importance but once again do check your source for "main lead"
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But is Rosamunde Pike short enough?
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Moiraine is short like 5 foot no shorter she is short for even a Cairhienan, who already are a short people
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Damn I just realised the Deep Fake the CGI Tarkin we actually have reached the CGI technology, and cheap enough for a tv series to get the AGELESS LOOK for AES SEDAI no matter the age
Imagine the what was her face, woman who played M in Bond movies since Golden Eye deaged as Cadsuane or Harry Potter MacGarnival both would work so well
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She's 1.74m tall.
>>719378 I'm about the same height as Kirara and I feel short often enough.
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>>719377 that is almost as tall as I am and matt is as tall as I am well maybe a fwe cm higher
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how much is 5,10?
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5,10 is 177 and I am 176 so yeah that is 10 inches too tall
I am already having bad feeling about this casting
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Well it's not hard to play some trickery with height. You don't even need CGI for it. Just some clever camera angles and occasional propping up.
>>719381 I hope they just cast nynaeve right and don't get "creative" about skin colours, cause the fucking series actually has quite myriad of them I mean, Seanchan empire is ruled by blacks for that matter
also god damnit I wish they will greenlight a book or two about Demandred's journey in Shara
>>>/@WoTWritersRoom/1141390183641866245 The serialization has a Twitter account and Rosamund was the first actress/actor to be announced. So maybe there is an assumption that she's the lead because she is the first announced. Or maybe it's industry standard to announce your lead actress/actor first. I don't know.
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I am not even in shape anymore fucking beer belly
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>>719389 NNope I just imagined you as being tall for sime reason >>719391 Wowme2 Except I don't drink beer
>>719390 How much do the normies know about Wheel of Time, when you think about it it is a big fantasy series, but it isnt that big
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It has pretty decent name penetration, at least amongst people who read books (like books in general; far more so when considering those that read fantasy). For those that don't read a lot it's not that well-known. But in fairness neither was ASIAF before the HBO series. Neither come remotely close to the name penetration of Lord of the Rings even before the movie trilogy.
it was very well known in wc3 days while game of thrones had 0 maps made so there is that but then again, I think myself DID play a part in that popularity in Northrend
I'm discounting Harry Potter for the same reason I'm discounting The Golden Compass. It's more "normal" for kids to read than adults working full-time, and even if the adults don't read them, they're gonna know about them if their kids are reading them, probably. Both those series are also a bit less of a niche genre fiction series like Lord of the Rings or Wheel of Time too.
You know the most amusing thing about my different age read throughs of the WoT series are I grew to actually like Nynaeve more Elayne is still kinda annoying but when I first read the series, I found N, El and such chapters such a DROLL to get through But this most recent read through I have found, especially Nynaeve mch more relatable character
I think there is a thing of mental maturity there, but also being older and having more time spent among women to appreciate it
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>>719398 Potter was pretty famous before the movies
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Jordan's wife and editor is also onboard as a consulting producer. If they're sensible they'll listen a lot of her, there's absolutely no one alive today that will know the characters and world as intimately as she does. Even Sanderson is probably not as close to the heart than she is.
>>719403 Not to mention the prebased fanbase, that is the main audience HAS READ THE STORY they can't that much stray away from it peter jackson is the most they can do away with, and he only streamlined and made it more direct, but kept the same spirit
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>>719404 Not to downplay Sanderson's skills because I love the other works he's done on top of Wheel of Time but I'm pretty sure Jordan left some insanely detailed notes about the remainder of the series he left unwritten. Like all that was left was to just convert it to actual novelized text.
>>719407 The Mordred-Rand thing at the end that was in my opinion quite poorly done and I think you can quite clearly notice where Sanderson's writing ends and where the final chapter that Jordan had written starts
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>>719404 >>>/@rafejudkins/1093961765468004352 This is one of the writer leads talking about Sanderson swining by the writing room for the series, so he's at least being called in and talked to.
Though his own series, The Stormlight Archives, has been optioned for an adaptation as well so if that's still going forward I imagine most of his time allocated to contributing to adaptations is probably focused on that.
Honestly I'd rather they just do a one-off movie of Elantris or a series on Mistborn since those at least all have concluded stories.
I felt a weird kinship with Ishamale/moridin after reading the "world of wheel of time" book how he basically philosophisised/theologisised himself into turning against the light
it was very much something I would see myself doing a pessimistic world view that was very hard to deny, but inevitably wrong
>>>/watch?v=pKJAWDVx5_Q Lindy has a fuckton of vids of MANY topics also he is a super biased traditional British gentleman which is in my opinion already a reason to watch his stuff
I'll keep it in mind if I'm ever looking up some information.
I don't really bookmark anything, and historically the things I do bookmark I just about never actually return to. Hell I've got tabs open on my browser that have been around for months, maybe over a year that I've been meaning to refer back to and just haven't. My brain's just not suited to depositing information into places it ends up metaphorically out of place, out of mind.
she looks plain jane asf talking about "perfect" lamo
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on taxes again
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