Honestly, end fucking gaimu has been spoiled so much for me That I fucking pretty much already seen it. Ya'll spent $20 on that shit and I ain't spent SHIT LOL
Since it's may, I'mma tell ya'll something. Literally 11 months ago I gave myself 224 cuts on my arm. I kinda want to do that again.... like what harm would it bring? Nadaa
Like the cuts are not even worth shit. They don't even fucking register. They just take up space in your arm, and they make their mark. It's really beautiful in a sense.
God, I'd fucking drown in multiple people doing what they want to my skin.
月
>>675873 no dont even if you feel like there's no physiological or psychological threat there, there is cutting gives a subscribable purpose to the pain, you understand why it hurts, so you feel in control of your pain etc etc etc that part psychologically reinforces the idea of controlling pain that you aren't equipped to control because you've bypassed proper coping
You're acting like you know what my skin wants. I know what it wants. Just more and more feeling piled up on top of anything
月
why though like you're probably anticipating cautious response posts because it's fringe talk on a public forum but im not about that even if you cut safe so there's no physical harm it's not a good systemic response and even on the feel good spectrum you're missing out on some real good wallowing to me it's like // >>675884 please calm down if you've already started, please stop im here, you know, what do you want
Ch. The fact that you're here with me moon-sama, O won't fucking go overboard. I just put this mood in me >>>/watch?v=lY8uTaUM8Bg
月
i understand the urge, you know im no pure flower but it's such a waste that's momentum, drive, that slow gradual building up of anticipation and excitement and fullfillment of pursuit, like a hunt you're tossin it out bit by bit for some pacifying release right now stop please save it, youre capable of manifesting it in so much more powerful and helpful and satisfying ways for yourself and others
You know i'LL ALWAYS CARE ooch caps lock. I'll care about you, from now til the end of existence. It's not such a big deal, just behavoural placements.
月
i dont believe that you do not when you hurt me by hurting yourself you say you enjoy it so it's fine but it's not
I knew I hurt you by how I act. I just want to slow it down, or even eliminate my disgusting behaviour so I woud know how I act. Acting like I don't care about ya'll. I really do want the best for both of you.
But it did bring me immeasurable pleasure like... Way better than fucking getting murked to like 2 teenagers acting like they got more map knowledge than me like
!C0.PerkELE
So why are you hesitating and trying to justify it through us to yourself?
because you don't want to truly do it because you know it isn't the right thing to do
They barely have any protruding blood. Which makes me wonder. PK, do you ever play multiplayer stuff? Like some 5v5 intimate type things. They're always exciting.
Do you think you're a bit too old for it? Well, if I had to bring my own occurance, I got a 4k with Ash, I just potatoed on the last fucker. Andddddddd I ran out while I was Ela, sprayed three of them down before the 4th merked me, she died like a pathetic worm.
!C0.PerkELE
maybe morelike I think I can't do it without a keyboard with G buttons
!C0.PerkELE
>>675913 Also I never played dota or anything of the sort really that much I playedm aps where you had to control 1-10 heroes + 50-250 units
>>675918 I think in terms of say getting somewhat good in blizzard games say sc2 you'd do qutie well by just mastering the basics and then learning the basic cheese counters and then just thinking outside the box
even on pro level games, like fucking WORLD CHAMPION level I noticed that many people don't really think strategically of course at the spot it is hard to make decisions like that vs benchmarking
but uhm if you practice that shit or just Know strategy you do that shit naturally, just like you do the rest of the 1000+1 actions you do per minute
ofc I never played the actual game that much online hell I think my total amount of games isl ike 20 in quick plays though my winrate in thosew as like... 18-2? I had one account with 6-0 and 2 other accounts I did up to 6 but not with perfect
Acting like I won't rip my throat out with the wakizashi tonight gggggg
!C0.PerkELE
But I was never good at the so called "macro game" or "micro game" in that one
I was good at controlling 100 units
!C0.PerkELE
100 units around 2-4 times the amount the basic game has
that was my strenght controllng heroes units towers siege shit and everything that was in the fight perfectly when it became a mass fight
HELL in the map >>675919 I made there was one faction Children of the Light that couldn't get proper siege or ANY spell casters own or allied without LOSING the game
so
that faction was designed to be basically "you will lose to one of the following factions" by default Except when I played with them... I made them actually to be able to defeat any army in the field EASILY as long as you avoided the spell casters or managed to avoid disaster at their hand
of course doing that was well near impossible unless you were me or someone with my expertice in mass army control and knowledge in the counter system of the map
!C0.PerkELE
1st one possible Readily there were some players, one of my close friends actually there, who were better at that but 2nd yeah Nobody Maybe with time someone would have beaten me at my own game, but the map died with patch and I never remade it
!C0.PerkELE
Didn't feel like spending fucking 20-100 hours remaking the code behind the map
!C0.PerkELE
>>675921 So what is your excuse I spent something like 500 hours or more just making a MAP MODE a MOD to play the game I loved
>>675936 it will take 10-30 making units 5-10 hours making all the abilities and spells 2-5 hours upgrades fucking... 40-400 making the map and then depending on how blizzard does the coding for map making 20-200 hours to make the code behind shit
a month if I dedicate to it fully half a year if I don't
I am the only finn posting on this board I don't post anything that contains stuff that i do with my IRL friends if it is identifiable or if it is without their permission
I would do that but like what would I gain? At least the shit makes me feel alive. Maybe I could go in my 5v5 game and feel sobbing depressing due to the music
Though good part of it might be because you are like a spicy food or something that is painful, but rewarding to touch like a cat that scratches you a lot untill you win against it
!C0.PerkELE
>>676007 Hi, I come to you as ambassador of way too many hours in Naruto ultimate ninja sotmr series including 120 hours that are 100% pvp in the latest game
Well, I'M a guy, and I'm definitely into any fucking army shit destroying lives and bringing blood to every inch of land that the enemies occupy. Slightly
!C0.PerkELE
I dunno my life generally post facto got improved by going through the army
K... Maybe I might be a bigger alchy than you. Like. You go off, but I just fucking murked my arm 50 times with a wakizashi. Didn't even feel it.
!C0.PerkELE
you drink more oft than me atleast
!C0.PerkELE
>>676023 Despite what people think about me I am not always drunk I actually drink way less than people think I do, I just keep that fame because I like it I do have feelings aside from anger
Yeah Pk, you're always at your own chill level, whether we can see it or not. Like with the grand strat ish and skyrim ish. Me, I'm just freaking the fuck out that I can't headshot anyone while I'm loaded
There was some crazy drunk with a gundam avi that wanted to add me. Throught he was way too fucking crazy so I ghosted him. Makes me kinda think... It was Char. Totally was either Maria or Jan. Drunk mfrs lmao
Man I was spacing out hard and threw in my morning tea mug the two Orange Pekoe teabags I'd normally put in a full pot isntead of the single Earl Grey teabag I use for the single mug.
!C0.PerkELE
>>676084 put in oranfe pekoe with darjeeling and watch the magic
Anno
I don't have any darjeeling on hand, sorry.
!C0.PerkELE
then mix assam
Anno
The cabinet I keep my tea in is shared with four to three other people at any given time. I don't really have the space to keep more than Orange Pekoe and Earl Grey hah hah.
This Caster Semenya thing is really fucked up. They're saying she can't participate in women's athletics anymore unless she takes testosterone blockers. Even though her testosterone levels are completely natural and there's never been any evidence of doping.
They don't do that to men. It's not considered unfair if a man has far more testosterone than is normal.
FormerRei@mobile
They're doing it because she has hyperandrogenism, not because they thinks she's doping. Which incidentally is still unfair, unless she is actually intersex which makes it way more complicated.
Kirara 🍄
Then men with abnormal natural levels should have to take testosterone blockers.
FormerRei@mobile
Are you talking about if shes intersex? I don't think she should be made to take them.
Kirara 🍄
No, there's no evidence of her being intersex. I'm just saying that the rule is incredibly unfair because her "natural advantage" is considered disqualifying solely because she's a woman.
FormerRei@mobile
Yeah it is unfair. I never said it wasn't.
Kirara 🍄
There's also virtually no evidence that her testosterone levels give her an unfair advantage. The whole situation is really fucked up. I don't understand why things like this happen.
Anno
Nails that stick out get hammered down and all. The human race has a really vicious love-hate relationship with people that stand out because of something uniquely qualifying.
Kirara 🍄
I dunno. Michael Phelps doesn't have to deal with that.
Kirara 🍄
Seems like only certain people have to get hammered down. Usually ones with specific appearances or religions.
Anno
Yeah but a white male human who's had the advantages to train and attain a level of physical perfection ... isn't really special. Like his results sure are fantastic but there isn't really something exceptional about Phelps.
I mean there isn't really anything exceptional about almost any human when you look at it the right way but getting people to look that "right way" is difficult and maybe not even ideal I dunno.
But a woman who has a relatively rare condition that naturally puts her testosterone levels above the normal results for an athletic training woman is a lot easier to see as an abnormal situation and therefore a nail that needs to be hammered down.
Phelps' standing out is the "safe" standing out that doesn't really betray human normalcy in the end to the people who see Semenya's situation as concerning or whatever nonsense they're running with.
Kirara 🍄
>>676113 Phelps does have anatomical advantages. He has a disproportional wingspan which is abnormal and gives him an advantage over normal swimmers. He's also double jointed which is abnormal and gives him an advantage.
Kirara 🍄
Like Semenya, he benefits from natural advantages associated with his body which are not considered to be common.
If we're going to start policing natural advantages, then Phelps should not be allowed to swim with other men unless his arms are surgically shortened and his double jointedness is controlled.
Kirara 🍄
Of course, it's ridiculous to police these advantages. Why is Phelps so good? Why is Semenya so good? It's because they train and they work hard. Their natural advantages give them an edge, but they wouldn't benefit from those substantially unless they trained to capitalize on them, which is what both of them have done.
However, Phelps is a man. Race may play a part in the distinction between them, but people like Usain haven't had Semenya's problems so I won't allege that it's racism. I think it's just misogyny. There's probably some transphobia in the rules as well, but that's not the biggest factor, I don't think.
Samu 🏔 !KW2DbpWwls
yeah that’s some double standard BS by the olympics
Semenya is really strong, though. She's been dealing with this stuff in some capacity for 10 years now. And she sounds like she's taking this in stride.
I have a feeling the ruling will be overturned in the next few years. There's a lot of support for Semenya. Even the president of South Africa is standing by her.
Because Sonicfox came out as anti-TERF and suddenly the british TERFs found out about him. Since he's a gay, black, pro-trans furry with a lot of clout, he terrified them. Now the British TERFs are freaking out about him and they're just kind of bringing it up in Parliament as something they're concerned about
FormerRei@mobile
In Parliament i mean
Maria
what a world
Kirara 🍄
He made a joke about hurting TERFs, I think? something like what's the difference between a terf and a pothole? nothing, they both need to be filled with hot asphalt and steamrolled or something? >>>/@SonicFox5000/1123657893008613377 so they're mad and saying trans ideology is about abusing women
FormerRei@mobile
>>676132 Lol I hate him though I pretty much hate all furries.
At this point, there are so many bad/dangerous groups of people active in the world, that I don't care about furries at all anymore. If they want to do their weird sex stuff, whatever. At least they're not killing people.
FormerRei@mobile
>>676134 Yeah but they still torture and kill animals. And also prey on minors.
But there are probably a higher proportion of non-furries that do those things compared to the proportion of furries that do. Those are things that are relatively common.
I mean, as someone who has done research on sexual offender populations and was involved in that research for 4-5 years, I saw thousands of cases of people preying on minors, and as far as I know, none of them identified as furries.
Obviously there are furries that do some fucked up shit but it's not because they're furries that they do it (usually). It's because they're fucked up and also furries.
Being a furry is weird and if I saw someone in a fursuit in public, I'd be pretty wary of them, but I wouldn't assume they're dangerous or anything. Just that they're probably not someone I want to get to know.
FormerRei@mobile
>>676136 They do the thing where they convince minors to give them compromising pictures. I mean I don't have data on this. I have seen data on incidence of bestiality in the furry community though.
Kirara 🍄
https://www.quora.com/What-percent-of-furries-are-into-bestiality >“18.4% of respondents self-identified as zoophiles, an amount which may or may not be different in a statistical sense from the general population (Alvarez and Freinhar's control groups reported a 10% and 15% prevalence respectively). No questions were asked as to the degree of activity, if any. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/21376479_A_Prevalence_Study_of_Bestiality_Zoophilia_in_Psychiatric_In-patients_Medical_In-patients_and_Psychiatric_Staff here's the alvarez & freinhar study that's citing
also tons of non-furries do the thing where they convince minors to give them compromising pictures. i would be very surprised if furries do it at a higher rate than non-furries.
the alvarez & freinhar study says this >The prevalence of bestiality (both actual sexual contacts and sexual fantasy) was investigated in an experimental group (psychiatric in-patients) and two control populations (medical in-patients and psychiatric staff). Psychiatric patients were found to have a statistically significant higher prevalence rate (55%) of bestiality than the control groups (10% and 15% respectively). Implications of these findings are discussed. It is recommended that due to the obvious prevalence of this condition, questions exploring this previously ignored topic should be routinely included in the psychiatric interview. just in case you can't open it for some reason
Kirara 🍄
i mean i'm not saying you should be cool with furries i don't really care if you are or not but they're not really more dangerous than other groups of people
Anno
What a fantastic world we live in, that there are actual academic studies into niche communities like furries.
>>676180 I don't think that's likely as I have never owned one before, so it would be highly improbable for one to be located in my trash can.
月
if you were a really good illustrator and just made illustrations im talkin like pixiv comiket etc not like paid employment and i mean like a really good illustrator do you think you'd earn more through patreon by doing H content or non-H
月
i keep comin across stray images i really really like so i check out the creator's page and they do like 90% H stuff i got nothin against that but it makes me wonder if they do it that way just for patreon incentives or if it's how they want to outlet their creativity like i dunno there's so much more to work with i think when you're not confined to those scenes, but that's just my tastes or something im no prude i just really like the art styles it'd be nice to see it in a variety of situations not just boobs and penises and sometimes boobpenises
Anno
>>676188 Well as a side note if you're a Really Good illustrator in the Comiket/pixiv circles there's a very good chance eventually you're going to get a job illustrating for some actual publication. But in the weird world you turn down those requests I'd definitely say adult content would bring a larger draw to Patreon subscribers.
>>676190 From my experience being adjacent to the commissionary/freelance illustrator world for a while, it's probably a bit of column A and a bit of column B. For starters, a lot of illustrators are some flavour of fucking degenerate and because of how Patreon works they can often just do the things they like and the requisite crowd will flock to it. But Patreon probably really incentivises them to lean into that once there's a base to work from and fetishes can some times be a slippery slope of starting off mild and getting more wild as time goes on. So providing postive feedback (and monetary feedback) I can imagine there's definitely encouragement to slide further into getting paid to be a degenerate.
Maria
>>676188 Speaking casually, I would bet on H content being more profitable
Kirara 🍄
probably H by a landslide yeah
FormerRei@mobile
My friend really wants to get into the making furry porn for obscene amounts of money business but she doesn't want to do any of it digitally. Unless you're an established artist I just don't think doing it with physical media is viable.
Kirara 🍄
yeah the big money is in
Kirara 🍄
niche fetish porn
月
niche is going to limit your exposure though so much i guess i did phrase the question in terms of money though
>>676192 i mean, just speaking in terms of style and technical things idk, as soon as it gets H it seems like it's suddenly restrictive like, the stimulation that comes from a really well done illustration in a non-H setting is going to come from a lot of things but as soon as you introduce naughty bits, that causes a disproportionate focus of the illustration there's so much variety into what aesthetics people have around that and what stimulates them or doesnt that it kills a lot of it i think i personally dont mind if there's stuff that's artistically tasteful from my point of view and not too too sexual but
i think im a firm believer in less is more when it comes to suggestivity those aesthetics are so extremely personalized that it works best when people can fill in the gaps themselves i think and the style of the overall image isn't compromised on those very niche details
at the same time, the H scene probably has often suffered from a lack of artistic skill on average compared to contemporary illustrators so there's probably really really strong motivation to pull a little bit of content from people who can do it well into the scene
and i do assume most dabble in it a little bit, but it's a little surprising to see some really great artists who do like 90%+ H and very rarely drop something worksafe i don't know how they manage it
Can someone answer my question I actually want to buy a Lucky Star backpack but I don't know where to find one.>>676200 Okay, thanks.
FormerRei@mobile
>>676199 If there was ever an official one I suggest trying yahoo auctions, if there wasn't go to one of those websites that let you upload an image and get merchandise with it on it and order a backpack with a lucky star image on it. Although I highly recommend using as high resolution an image as possible. If you find one that you like that isn't high resolution try using waifu.2x
It needs to be high resolution (without compression artifacts) other wise it will look bad.
i mean, it's cool im not bothered by it but like im seein stuff with really cool art style that i'd totally share but if it's an H piece and im sharing it, the H part becomes ubiquitous over the art style im tryin to share you know? makes it a little overt >>676210 yeah that's cool it just got me thinkin and stuff the SFW artists totally get huge exposure through twitter and things and make some really fantastic stuff so i was thinkin about whether they'd have more success through patreon if they kept doing that versus H stuff not strictly one or the other but just like mostly
Kirara 🍄
>>676198 maybe they just like lewd things so that's what they draw
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
artists that draw good lewd and nonlewd both is great
Anno
Like I said above from my experience a lot of people who go into the illustration career are some flavour of degenerate and generally have something lewd they enjoy partaking in. Maybe it's restricting their exposure by working in a niche like you said but if they are getting sufficently rewarded for doing so there's definitely a degree of complacency there. I've noticed people that do illustration as opposed to "creating art" or whatever tend to also be a bit more industry-minded than people more interested in art for art's sake. So they're not exactly trying to engage in something grander than just bring to visualization the scene or production in their head.
Surely not everyone interested in drawing is a degenerate. I mean just look at blue.
Wait.
Anno
Oh thanks for dropping me Internet.
>>676212 Which means while they might be depriving themselves of exploring technique and style and creating a visual piece that produces a more full stimulation. But frankly that's not something they care about one bit.
Of course this is a generalization and I've definitely met illustrators that don't fit into that mold but overall they definitely tend to lean away from the pursuit of art and more the execution of their skills.
>>676213 Yes I know you're being humourous but in my experience I can only really think of ONE (1) person in the commission/freelance illustration field I've met that wasn't a degenerate in one way or another! Or at least one I can say with some certainty.
Anno
And as far as degenerates go the most degenerate people I've known have been illustrators, hah hah.
FormerRei !GURPSRWiTs
The most degenerate person I know irl (if I know anyone else more degenerate than them they've been keeping it a secret) is an accountant. well maybe the furry is worse but he's barely a furry
the closest i've personally done is figure drawing err, "drawing", but you know portraits of live models nude, but that's like that's not h content by any means it's the subject of the work so it's always been blended into the style well with that in mind
with my other works, there's always a feel to it that i want to convey to others there's some stylization involved that communicates something i feel like including naughty bits for the most part obfuscates that communication because everyone's got varying aesthetics to that it's too dynamic
but i think that's a big difference in drawing for expression and drawing for function, for pay like i said, not judging h content for being h content, but just a barrier within the platform itself in a way idk im prolly not making sense it's ok
ton, tilde do you want me to send you a link to the torrent im using for tomorrow for GotG
Anno
Oh yeah I forgot I needed to go look into that. Sure if you've got one available I'll take advantage of that.
Anno
>>676217 No I get what you're trying to say I think. It's just it's not really a barrier for these people because they're not looking to tread outside the barrier. Like you talk about having a feeling you want to convey to others or create a kind of communication. And I bet if I went to some of the people I know who do illustration and take a piece they've done recently and ask them what they're trying to convey or what communication they're trying to establish. They'd just laugh at and ridicule me for having some kind of pretentious mindset when it comes to the piece they've done and that they were just trying to draw some cute girls or whatever. They exist in a shallower world so the restrictions that come with doing erotic work just don't even register on them.
月
also after getting paid and paying rent i have 50 dollars left and it'll cost me 48.75 to turn my phone back on lol it's been off like most of the month gosh damn
月
i dont think they'd laugh or ridicule at that everything you do is communication or expression whatever's compelling them to draw cute girls is going to be manifested and represented in that work it doesn't have to have "deep" meaning just aesthetics or anything else like maybe they're attempting to draw some cute girls but they fuck it up and oh no, that wont work, that's really not cute think i'll redo that part and make it cute
what kind of cute is it, is it like naive innocent cute wearing an oversized tee shirt for pajamas and holdin a plush animal is it a spunky kinda cute i mean, they wouldnt be making whatever theyre making if they didnt appreciate it. and it could even not be the content itself but an appreciation for the technique as they try to find some medium to practice using some new skill
Anno
No, trust me Moon, I'm inclined to agree with that more or less but I know this is the case because I have tread very similar conversations with them in the past and the result has been them expressing ridicule and disbelief that this kind of mentality goes into illustrating in the first place. Like they have a concrete idea of what they want without having to consider and just do that. And trying to ask why they're doing it, even not for a deep reason but just why, has them dismissing the question with either snideness or an "I like it" or something similarly shallow.
Like I could promise you that me trying to even say something like "Everything you do is communication or expression" to them is just going to result in them going "Oh it's Tilde being Tilde again everyone look at him being pretentious".
月
wtf did you used to hang out on /co/ or something that sounds awful
Anno
Sorry I've got a bit of animosity towards them in their more asinine moments hah hah. >>676224 Just a bunch of people from /jp/ and /a/ drawthreads that were able to transition their skills into a hobbyist or amateur commission/freelance illustration work. Even a few professionals too really. Not all of them are that kind of snide asshole but even the more polite ones are generally wholly disinterested in a conversation along those lines. Their illustration work serves to bring to visual the scene or person or whatnot in their head. And that's the limit of their conscious deliberation on the piece.
>>676225 there are cases where the work itself is the only communicable form of that expression, where it's pointless to look more into it and cases where people arent aligned with that curiosity to introspect on those things and it's easy to misunderstand those questions you pose as a more arrogant interpretation -- like that conversation you and i had on the limits of a channel by perspective
but anyway, that nonsense aside, yeah, a lot of illustrators ive known have been unpleasant people as well i generally think of myself as a decent person who wants good things and people to feel good but there are one or two people along that vein ive known in my past who i legitimately would feel satisfaction when hearing that their life is miserable and watching them make more mistakes illustrators, yeah
i hadn't really thought about it til you mentioned something
Kirara 🍄
>Epic buys Rocket League developer Psyonix, strongly hints it will stop selling the game on Steam oh shit
Anno
Well I don't really have much interest in Rocket League but fuck off Epic.
Kirara 🍄
Rocket League is a big source of revenue on Steam. It's really popular and makes a lot of money. This is a really big hit to Steam
月
is cliffy b still there
月
oh he left in 2012 wow im out of the loop
Anno
Cliffy B?
月
cliff bleizilizenski design director of gears of war and the dark souls of first person shooters
Anno
Well Gears of War are trash games so good riddance.
月
they had really cool, uh, what's the term for it the architecture design of the buildings in-game not really even the environments, just specifically the buildings they were really ornate and cool
the multiplayer was so toxic, i loved it
Anno
Well the aesthetic design was fine, yeah. But like it's just a slow-paced cover shooter as far as the campaign goes and all the characters are these gritty hard-boiled army people whose defining trait is that they're gritty hard-boiled army people. And everything is just desaturated and grey which is a huge damper for me.
月
me and my ex played through the whole thing for the first three of the games, idk if they ever made more but damn we were laffin so hard the whole way through because it's so dumb and yeah the cover is ridiculous. i think you spend on average like six hours behind cover trying to play through the game on harder difficulties just waiting behind cover
Anno
I think Gears 5 is coming out some time soonish or something. They've left Epic behind though since it's a Microsoft product.
Apparently Starlight Revue has had an /// had events going nonstop back-to-back for the past 5-6 months in Japan with only a 12 day period where there wasn't an event. How am I supposed to find time to do the main story if they're constantly running limited time events! We're only on the second event, so maybe once I start being able to finish the events more quickly, I can work on the main story.
It seems like my favorite new girl hasn't had any new cards since the game started, though. What a shame. My second favorite new girl has a few, though. One of them is an event reward which is nice because it means I'll definitely be able to get her.
Anno
>>676240 Just grind HARD in that twelve-day period!
This is Tamao Tomoe, she's my second favorite new girl She's really put together and she's nice to everyone She was taught Japanese dance by Kaoruko's family but she's not really that strong
My new favorite is Akizaki Rui She's a kendo person and she's pretty shy but she does stuff anyways even though it's hard She's a butai shoujo with stage fright she's super gay for Tamao
That might be cool. All the schools other than the one that was in the anime have their first time participating in Auditions in the game. But the Auditions are school vs school instead of person v person.
Rinmeikan wants to win to keep their drama department open. Frontier wants to win to make the play they're writing about pirates so famous that they can do it in different countries. Seisho wants to win because if they don't Starlight will cease to exist and everyone will forget about it. I don't know why Seigfeld wants to win yet.
But the stakes are kind of disproportional, aren't they? It's kind of weird?
Anno
The Starlight Revue Cinematic Universe.
Anno
Oh gosh my mother's lamb pies are always so good.
月
aww that sounds tasty youve got such a cozy family
Earlier today, I impulse bought a cake. It was in the window and it looked really good. So I asked for the cake, and the lady was like "Oh? What's the occasion?" in a sort of excited voice. And I was just kind of like "haha i just want a cake"
>>676259 nice what kind? impulse can be cathartic sometimes
i tried to impulse buy some cupcakes from a local bakery, lemon, raspberry, and a few scones for delivery but they were out of almost everything so the delivery person came with just a lemon cupcake and like two bear claws which were still really good
I'm not familiar with that spider power, actually.
Anno
Man that was deeply satisfying. Y'all should come for dinner some time.
月
>>676267 gladly i'd love to come visit the cozy canucks im really not far away honestly but i got no passport
>>676266 like i leaned up from my pillow this morning and my mattress is right up against the wall and there was a spider right next to my head on the wall and even though it didnt even touch my head i had spiders in my head all day long
>>676267 "hi tilde's mom i flew all the way from florida to eat your lamb thanks for having me i brought you a gift" and the gift is a massive bag of rice
Anno
Bring some Florida grapefruits my dad loves grapefruits.
>>676270 Hmm, am I allowed to bring stuff like that over the border? I don't know the rules.
Anno
>>676268 Yeah jumping the border's a pain nowadays, having to have one. I'd say at least it's a good long-term investment considering the cost but I know you're not flush for money at the moment.
>>676271 Uh. I ... think it's fine? My granddad had a winter home down in Florida and had a grapefruit tree on his land. We might've brought some grapefruits with us back home after visiting once? Honestly I think there's nothing against crossing the border with a sack of grapefruits but you might encounter some issues flying with them hah hah.
月
>>676271 how do you protect your head from having spiders in it the only way i know how to do that is with lorazepam but i really hate taking it anymore
>>676272 Maybe I'll bring some grapefruits, then. I know a place that has good grapefruits. You can just go and buy a crate of them.
>>676273 I have a powerful detachment from most things that renders me nearly immune to that kind of stuff. I try to stay in the moment so most stuff just slides off me outside of interpersonal stuff. I let interpersonal stuff in, but the rest, I don't really care about. I dunno
月
so i have to detach my head so the spiders can't get in it?
Kirara 🍄
if you do that you'll just have more ways for them to get in
Anno
My trick is having poor object permanence! Out of sight, out of mind!
If you power up your imperturbability, and live in the moment with calm composure, you can get past pretty much anything.
I've always been bothered by relatively few things but in the past year, I've let go a lot of my attachments and the ideas that held me back, and now there isn't too much that bothers me. I have a high resistance against the things that do bother me, too, now.
I've been practicing shikantaza which is also enhancing my ability to not be bothered, too.
could i come visit the cottage or is that like your family's private place i bet that'd be a swell time
Anno
Yeah I'm pretty sure I could get a handful of friends up there for a spell. Both my mother and my brother have hosted friends up there in the past, and it's not uncommon for my brother and his girlfriend to head up for a week or a few days. We've got like a dozen beds or bed-like things too so it's equipped for a decent number of people.
The only catch is I can't literally get a handful of friends up there; I would need to finish my driving license so I can drive, hah hah. But if we had someone for the wheel I could navigate us up there almost with my eyes closed. I know the route almost by heart.
月
i dont have a vehicle but i could definitely drive my license should be fine in canada
wow a whole week would be super cool but that's so tough to coordinate being a responsible adult ruins everything
ToN
because of preorders and other things i have several things that should be coming this month it’s exciting
Anno
Well that's just the kinda limit. My parents like to make their way up there every weekend so theoretically to inconvenience them the least being there some time Mon-Fri would be ideal. But they'd also not protest taking a weekend off or >>676284 yeah something like that maybe. It's a two and a half hour drive from Toronto alone let alone the additional travel time from America. So I think you'd probably want to get a few days or more in to get the travel time worth.
they can join us for a saturday brunch! i'll cook then we clean up and head out and leave em in peace
Anno
I might even be able to persuade them to let us take the car that doesn't really get used much anymore hah hah. We own two but my dad's job in recent years is easily accessible from public transit so he's not had to drive much to work anymore. So during the week it doesn't see much use. Buuuut I might need to work my charms to get them to trust a relative stranger with, hah hah
it's hard for me to go on substantial trips because i don't want to leave my clients alone too long. technically i could leave them without me for a week or two without any problems for myself but im like a crutch for them until they can walk on their own again and if you just suddenly lose your crutch you might fall down and bust your face
Anno
I can understand that, yeah. I don't want to pull you away from the work you want to do but it'd be nice to work something out.
In a year, I'll have approximately a month and a half between classes and my internship starting where my only responsibility will b to move into a new apartment wherever I get my internship. Maybe I could spend some time there then.
Anno
The drive up is a great chance for idle conversation though. My brother and I did the drive last Christmas Eve to meet up with the family that was already there and just shot the breeze pretty much the whole time. There's a lot of farmland and Crown land the highways cut through up there that kind of begins to blur together. Especially if you've done the trip hundreds of times, hah hah. You kind of put on autopilot and talk or space out.
Anno
We've got a full physical Scrabble set up at the cottage too Moon. And a handful of other simple boardgames as well. There's this kindalike Scrabble game called Bananagrams you might get a kick out of.
oh ive played bananagrams >>676292 when next year?
Anno
I guess it shouldn't surprise me, hah hah. There's also this card game, Five Kings, that could really give Monopoly a run for its money for being the game of ruining friendships. Though I've only played it with family really, but it's had me at their throats before.
well next february or march i'll have to move idk where to yet but maybe not staying around this area might be an appropriate time around then or before while im nearby i have no idea what to do to get a passport though im so bad at things
Anno
There ought to be an office you can visit to handle the paperwork if you're near a major city. At least here you need to acquire the photograph for a passport yourself, but that's something here you can just visit a pharmacy/drugstore or something along those lines for. I wouldn't know about the American procedure though.
You might even be able to do all the paperwork over correspondence maybe? At the least they ended up mailing me my passport instead of having me have to go and pick it up ... I think? Man it's been a long time for me too hah hah
月
yeah i did the photo at walgreens here last time that was a lifetime ago though
月
are there week passes for fish and wildlife stuff maybe we can get out super early and catch a nice fish lunch
Anno
I really don't know, actually. But when my mom's parents lived on a lake I know my grandpa would go out and do some fishing every now any then, and I don't think he ever registered for a license. So maybe they don't really care if you're just grabbing a couple fish as a one-off?
i also don't know what kinds of fish live in the lake we're on currently. My grandpa's lake is pretty nearby honestly and they had some of the most scrumptious trout I've ever had in that lake though.
>>676303 Hm, I'm not sure if the lake's entirely public but there are a lot of private properties on it, ours included. But there's also one or two youth camps on the lake. I doooon't think there's any provincial/federal parks though, so probably the lake's private? I could easily get these answers when it's relevant though I bet.
月
it'll prob depend on if it's private or public you can do w/e on private
lake trouts huh i dont think ive ever had a trout from a lake if possible i'd love to hit up a lake and do fly fishing errr river* not lake the scenery is just nicer with the flowing water and it's a little more lively
hell there's loads to do here in michigan right nearby, i wouldnt have to head up there to do it but my roommate is too otaku to care about any of that stuff and i dunno anybody else here can't get around by myself and all that im prolly making excuses too much im sure there's folks i could meet just to go fishing even if i dont have equipment of my own
Anno
There's a lotta rivers up there too, as well as marshland, creeks, and ponds. Huge swathes of Central Ontario is part of a giant watershed that flows down into the Great Lakes. I don't really know where the good fishin' spots would be though. Wasn't really charmed by the experience as a kid and the first lake we cottaged on wasn't really good for fishing in. I mean I don't know if the one we're on now is good either but it's a lot deeper overall and at its deepest than that first one. And that deep, cold water is where you get some really tasty fishes.
jan prolly be up there tryna catch fishes with a bow and arrow
Anno
Swimming around with a spear on a rope chucking it at anything moving in the water.
月
it's not a bad way to go in shallow streams fly fishing is really hard honestly you see the fish come up and just ignore that shit or you didnt time it right to jig as the fish passed and some expensive flys for those things too that you just straight up lose in the water
ToN
I won’t ever go fishing again. I had a real bad experience one time and now I am convinced that all fish are trout to get me.
Anno
I've only ever fished in a lake, I don't even think I did it out in a boat. Maybe once or twice. The bulk of it was off a dock at least. Even with that I remember catching a fish that, while not really good eating, was definitely a decent size for like a ten-year-old to be catching.
>>676309 One time I was fishing with my brother and grandpa and reeled in a fish that fought hard enough to shake off the hook and land flapping on the dock. And in my panicking kid nature my first instinct was just to boot the fish off the dock back into the water. I remember watching it spiralling down into the black of the water worried I'd killed it or something hah hah.
月
how the heck are you gonna tag "denim" for a picture of someone who has no clothes on at all what the heck man no clothing anywhere in the picture this isn't what i wanted
Anno
Well you know what they say. Skin like denim.
月
where i grew up, the local convenient store just had coolers full of live bait in containers i was so excited to fish id always try to get live bait even when we werent going fishing i was not aware that you cant just buy a container of nightcrawlers and leave the container out in the sun to be used later on that was my only fishing-related trauma it smelled so, so, so bad oof i think the poor things melted
Anno
Ouch, yeah, I can imagine. That's some prime childish obliviousness.
oh i forgot one i was down in alabama i think and we went into a shop by the docks which sold a variety of things im not sure if we were there for tackle or what but they had like power tools and stuff there was some soldering iron type thing but it had a long flat blade which i hadn't seen before even though i was familiar with other soldering irons so i was messing with it thinkin it's cool since it's not plugged in but i guess those kinda tools have battery power so it heated up real hot and scalded my right-hand fingers really bad
i still went fishing afterwards but had to keep my hand inside of a cooler full of lukewarm water and stuff it stung like hell all weekend so i remember that fishing trip had to have someone help me reel stuff in haha
Anno
I've never handled a soldering iron but I've definitely done the dumb kid thing of "Is the stove hot? Better put the palm of my hand RIGHT ON IT TO CHECK". Man being a kid is just tempting fate how the hell do so many of us get to adulthood.
i was only like 7 i think but you know, looking at that situation anyone's likely to think "yeah dont let kids mess around in dangerous areas they dont know what these things are! it's not a toy!" but i was fully familiar with soldering irons by that time, had seen my dad using them and learned all about soldering
this thing didnt look like a normal iron though, it had a big handle that you'd hold orthogonal to the surface and then a big flat blade like for a saw but not sharp i was so curious and im like "ok it's safe it's not plugged in, it's fine" but that big handle meant it had a battery power in it even though it burned really bad, the bigger bruise was to my ego being treated like a dumb kid afterward i think i probably got in trouble too haha like shit you just burned your hand im gonna punish you now for doin that
When you or whoever found that image first posted it originally I had to have the reaosn it was ridiculous explained to me hah hah. I'm being honest when I say I've never handled a soldering iron I don't -didn't know what she was doing so wrong.
月
that's understandable soldering isnt really something most people ever have to do but if you're doin stock photos iunno you'd think someone would notice. and if none of those people involved are familiar with soldering, how did the idea occur to them to do stock photos based around it it's one of those subtle peculiarities to me that just doesnt make sense, that tiny gap in the process that doesn't follow
月
when those things occur where i cant follow it i get the feeling it was kind of intentional like taking stock photos is already a pretty goofy task, and i think people really like messing around and taking obscure photos just on whims
last one so i dont get spammy, but this one obviously from the same batch
it's just the bizarrest things
Anno
I was gonna say what kind of fuck goes fishing in business suit but the other two kind of gave me context.
Maria
How expensive do you think those stock images are Like some manager is thinking "oh man I really need a photo of a guy fishing for money in my motivational PowerPoint I'd pay for that!
月
there's ones with gold fish, black fish, dollar bills, dollar bill signs, bitcoin signs, signs for many other currencies there's one for income just the word "income" in 3d text on the end of the line and like 30 of them titled "Businessman fishing nothing from the cloud with free copyspace - Image
where there's nothing on the pole and it has a backdrop of clouds to represent the cloud
月
i really want to just take a trip with kirara and a camera and spend like a whole weekend making goofy ass stock photos with one or two day models it'd just be plain fun but there's actual earning potential there too
Anno
i just went to a fully roleplayed maid cafe in an MMORPG and boy that was one of the most surreal experiences in video games
Anno
Were you one of the fully role-played maids?
Anno
>>676330 no i was roleplaying a cat girl going on a very embarrassing date with a big incredible hulk looking man that played the bongos to establish dominance over the local bard and his poor rendition of a persona 5 song
Anno
i don't think they'd let me be one of the maids i'm the wrong wrace all of them were dragon girls
HEY IM PLAYING BLAZBLUE ANYONE WANNA JOIN TWITCH.TV/RUSSAKIE
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see now i posted in the right thread and also i was looking specifically for ToN but i think he's dead
Anno
He might be at work. I think he does a lot of graveyard shifts at his job.
Anno
/moe/ would you rather die than spend the rest of your life in prison?
Anno
Life is already a prison so I'm not losing much by staying in it. And I'd rather be alive than dead.
Maria
>>676357 yeah By that point I think I would Maybe I'd try attacking the biggest guy in the yard If I win I become king of prison and if I lose I'll be dead which is just as good
>>676357 prison is bad but maybe better than death depends on prison can i get sweden pls
Maria
Maybe if you just forgot about the outside you could get used to it Work out and become swole, read a lot, write prison stories Maybe try a few escapes for fun if I'm just going to die anyway
Anno
everything is a prison
Maria
Yeah but some prisons are bigger than others
Anno
as the famous Smiths song goes
Anno
We're already in the biggest prison there is.
Anno
may the first be with you star wars fans
Anno
and may the second be with second future star wars fans
>>676398 bro /moe/ sleepover when grab a laptop and watch comfy anime in a pillow fort
Maria
*/moe/ sleepover I can attend when
Anno
we sure get some characters here on moe dot com lucky star backpack what
Maria
He wants that backpack
月
who uses backpacks satchels are where it's at
Maria
you see those anime schoolboys with their briefcases would get bullied for that here
Anno
anime briefcase wouldn't be bad store all your animes on the inside on the lining almost said anime beecase
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
hey moon you should receive an email from the doushios
月
ok so do i make the g suite account or is that something doushio set up on its end sorry im noob
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
g suite account? idk probably do you have access to the mail yet?
月
i got sent a password reset link for doushio so i reset it but i dunno what it is it's sayin to sign into g suite ok yeah that's what i was thinkin cool i got confused since the mail addressed me differently in the greeting
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
yea it's your moon@ email account you can sign in via the usual gmail.com i think or there's also a doushio specific portal for that
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
ok i have retrained the sonic brain, now with two recurrent layers it's too late to do more training tho, the process makes my gpu whine real high pitched and i don't wanna disturb my roomie but next step is to do a real long training maybe an hour or something and see what that gives
月
all right we're salad thanks sammy i wouldn't mind takin a looksie at your sonic sometime layers and more sophisticated training is always cool but sometimes there's some little trickery you can apply towards the end too make it follow some other language conventions
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
the code is lifted entirely from this tutorial: https://www.tensorflow.org/tutorials/sequences/text_generation
and the input data is the entire 360 chapters from: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9532463/1/Sonic-s-Ultimate-Harem
>>676444 it's really pretty impressive what it's doin just off character sequencing
uh but you see it's just spewin out the internals it's not gonna achieve consciousness until it's corresponding through a noisy channel with a listener, even just a virtual listener from which it can anticipate received messaging that's just a quickie adapter add on tho
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>>676456 is that the name of the new era? i only saw a brief news snippet of the abdication ceremony god those feather hats look so cool
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
>>676458 ooo i didn't see that i just saw the thread title
i called it a feather hat because i didn't know what else to call it
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
>>676457 yea it doesn't react to anything except the last 1000 characters it saw and some internal short term memory so it's kind of a far cry from doin any semantic analysis or modelling of the world
>>676461 idk not really that far it's got a process for mapping, it just doesn't have any meaningful constraints funnel those character sequences around some linguistic structures and ping the receiver for surprisal it's goin places
until it's got some constraints there's nothin really for it to infer it's voluminous enough to do work though i mean it's no cook book but it's still pretty exciting
uh maria hello?? have you tried uh mahjongsoul.game.yo-star.com this out yet tenhou is classic but to edify some others on mahjong i think i will be playing with them through here for the more user friendly interface and funner graphical interface
Maria
>>676473 ? Oh yeah that I've had an account on the Chinese one for a while I appreciate the english one being out now because it looks like its gotten a bunch of new people into mahjong >verification failed, please try again later awesome
>>676475 yeah sure what's your username on it Oh I'm finally in I like this new tutorial they have
>>676473 The emotes are a fun feature I've tried bluffing with them a few times Open a hand and spam the the smug ones to make it look like I have something
open call to others who may want to play not right now i mean but in the forseeable future
Maria
Ichihime > Miki
月
it certainly will make coordinating a game with rabbit et al much easier
Maria
>>676478 How many people do we know that actually play this?
>>676480 Wow I didn't know Rika ever played I have a friend who's quite good at it but I haven't spoken to him in months He's lucky enough to have a place where he can play irl regularly >legbutt group Is that a group for real life mahjong, I don't know what a legbutt is
I definitely remember playing with Kannagi a few times
Teaching mahjong is hilarious. New people can't wrap their heads around furiten When I first played I just called everytime I had the chance because I didn't know you needed yaku to win
me, you, floop actively play blue, kannagi, yuu know how to play but don't anymore then i have, uhhh i have ran and kinshi, who you don't particularly know and then i've got about six of my legbutt friends who im starting up a group with and teaching some im happy i found this site because it does a really good teaching intro that i wouldn't be able to do >>676479 uh yeah we had some games with blue kannagi and rika years ago but it was only a few times i imagine they got tired of me asking every single night haha
>>676479 i got into a game on here earlier and it was no open tanyao that's such a disorienting rule even after realizing it was no open tanyao i still kept doing it
i get why it's a thing, but... actually i dont is that supposed to be an option for newer players so it's less volatile? open tanyao is such a crucial part of competitive play
Maria
>>676482 I did that a few times on tenhou when I was still in ippan haha It was always a big "oh shit" moment when I had an open tanyao hand and realised I couldn't win on it And for a while I didn't know what red dora were
I think some people prefer playing without tanyao because they prefer less open games or something I see a lot of people complain about players rushing for open tanyao at the expense of other hands I think open tanyao is important though yeah. Without it the game just becomes a semi /// more random riichi fest since there's less incentive to open your hand
>>676484 A lot of people I see complaining about open tanyao seem to be new to the game and not understand this Open tanyao can be situationally useful with the right set up but if you rush for it every time you will get your shit slapped You give away so much information and limit your defensive options for a hand that's often worth 1000-2000 points
月
the cost of an open tanyao, the expense to the player attempting it i mean, is not trivial like you can't just rush for open tanyao as a plan to win the session mahjong is about the long game not a bunch of individual rounds
yeah, and even if you keep succeeding with it, you're still incurring expense it can be useful as a consolidation when you've got a rough starting hand and there aren't the available resources for you to attempt something more rewarding but if you're wasting the opportunities when you do have those things available, even if you gain some points, the risk is huge you're not capitalizing on control of the tiles and information when you have the opportunity to, so you're essentially letting someone else have a free path to a big hand while you are aggressively exposing yourself
i feel like people who complain about open tanyao are the same ones to complain about the luck factor i play shogi with my roommate and tried to get him to try mahjong and he's just like "nah i don't like luck based games that's why i play shogi" it's such a depressing statement. shogi is a static game. it's still good and all the skill in mahjong is adaptability in dynamic situations, not getting lucky draws that's why it's so long, to mitigate that luck you still get a few weird situations where you get dealt a full hand for an instant yakuman but like the odds of that are reasonable for a game of wager, which mahjong is intended to be whether it's wagering elo or money or whatever, those situations aren't going to change someone's rank in the long run
ok sorry long vent
月
im gonna queue into the bronze ranked east rounds if you wanna try to queue into me idk if you're busy or if it'll work though
Maria
>>676485 I do think that open tanyao does have its use in spite of all
Maria
>>676487 if I can get into tenpai with just one call, I can potentially block other peoples hands Being niishanten from a haneman matters less when the guy across is already in tenpai
>>676485 adding onto this >sorry long vent Vent about mahjong any time
I think mahjong really needs to be played competitively or with some sort of long form wager for it to be truly appreciated. Playing isolated games just exacerbates the luck factor and makes it much more difficult to tell which players are strong and which are weak A huge aspect of the game is isolating which decisions are correct decisions and which are wrong decisions, since sometimes the
>>676494 cont - sinnce sometimes the statistically correct decision doesn't pay off and sometimes the wrong decision does pay off. With long standing player records you can somewhat track the costs of these sorts of decisions, but if you're just playing isolated games you can't. New players or people who just don't get it lose one game and they instantly blame the game as a whole because they aren't able to see their own long
daaamn i clutched it out with a haneman in the last round to take first >>676496 yeah i think it's definitely a wager game rank/elo whatever is a valid wager in itself imo if there is any incentive whatsoever to being a ranked player, potential for sponsorship or earnings from tournament play or whatever. in that case, rank is a really solid wager and more reflective measure of skill long-term, i think, since money wager means potential tilt or waves of inconsistency
however, money wagers are really stimulating, and this is the kind of game honestly where people often lose out of apathy there's not enough stimulation to pay attention to the amount of details you know you should. it's taxing and there's not incentive for that level of focus im pretty poor but i think like $30 is about the right amount for competitive stakes, 30 per player, maybe 50 im not sure what the payout structure would be exactly winner triples and second breaks even would be similar to some other systems, but the elo structure usually has third breaking even then i'd say like ten bucks for friendly stakes
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
y'all doin mahjong calculus over here and i'm derpin around throwing paint out of a bathtub at squids
>>676500 This is a really neat article about jansous and their wagering systems, https://osamuko.com/overview-of-mahjong-parlors-and-why-you-cant-really-win/ I think a lot of the time they just use a rate tied directly to points and then add on a modifier at the end. Like 1000 points = 1 dollar and then at the end a certain amount of points is added or subtracted for rankings Like, you might set it so that first automatically takes an extra 8000 points off of fourth by the end, and second takes just a bonus of 2000 from third I don't really understand how the modifiers work for the placement points on tenhou though
>this is the kind of game where people often lose out of apathy I see a lot of people adopting this sort of mind set when they're losing. They just mindlessly discard tiles while looking at discord or something in another tab because they think they've already lost Or they might quit the game all together. Of course it applies too when you're just in second or third when people just get sort of bored, but I see it a lot in players who are in fourth I think that's the most fun part of mahjong though. Being fourth place is stressful and mentally stimulating. You have to fight tooth and nail. I bet playing with a wager would really heighten the high and the tension I associate with that position.
>>676505 >financial gain Are you talking from the perspective of using wagers to increase the stimulation of a game, or for the goal of making yourself money? With digital mahjong we can cut the overhead costs that physical establishments have involved. Although in my experience, the fee for currency conversion would mean you'd need to either bite the fee or limit yourself to playing with people from the same country.
>>676510 >whole season and peoples placement changes weekly Oh that. Yeah that sounds like fun. It'd spark community engagement and long term thinking
>>676503 are you workin >>676501 gosh i wanna switch especially with supreme mario maker 2 comin >>676502 eh parlors are entertainment centers i do think financial gain in mahjong would be better suited for bracket tournaments with winnings or like weekly ladders with placement prizes stakes games might need to be one-off things physical establishments have a lot of costs to cover prolly
>>676505 oh yeah this summer is gon be fun hmm how 2 get moon a switch
月
>>676502 >Are you talking from the perspective of using wagers to increase the stimulation of a game, or for the goal of making yourself money? uhhh in the case of tournaments or ladders, neither really it'd be to stimulate and incentivize the community a little bit like if you hold weekly ladders for a whole season and people's placement changes each week when it's game day it's just healthy for the community there. it's not really like it's about the money it's just using those resources to focus the activity more. everyone's time has a cost. if you can find a way where people can partake in an activity they enjoy without them feelin like they gotta sacrifice more important things // idk that's a bad way to word it but yeah if you're good and placing well in the ladder maybe it pays out like 100 bucks or something you know every week but there's also gonna be lots of networking and activities aside from that prolly
>>676510 I don't think describing time as a cost is a bad way of wording things. Everyones time is finite and whatever they spend it on will always be at the cost of other things. So if you can invest people a little more in the experience then the time they spend on it is less costly relative to other options
>>676512 I think another important thing is having set timeframes so it feels like an event and people can discuss it. When I play with randoms on tenhou I can't talk to them afterwards and say "wow what a great game that hand in the second east round was crazy". Even if Tenhou did have a chat system, I doubt I'd care about some randoms. But I might care if the interaction is framed around us all being in the same community. I'm sorry to tanget a little while you're still typing, but I think that things like tournaments also have a sort of narrative power to them. They're like their own self contained stories that we participate in and have their own setups and payoffs. Something like tenhou just has the grind towards tenhoui, it doesn't have climaxes like "wow remember that one time me and my friend played together in the final of the 5th monthly /moe/jong tournament and then we all went out for drinks"
I agree with what you're saying about the fun and excitement of structure and making an event of things. I think too that people would just care a bit more if they've invested something into the event or the group. Like "oh I've paid my membership, I need to make sure I show up"
>>676513 No I like this conversation I like floating ideas around
it might seem kinda counterintuitive but i think people are even more eager to participate in community events if there's like a small buy-in fee, $10 or something, expecting that they won't win anything, than going to an event for free with no prizes like it just feels like something that way. otherwise it's not much different than heading to the parlor any day or playing online. it's just "i guess i'll play mahjong for a bit" and not really having the fun and excitement of that structure
it allows the group/event to do more stuff too. like would you rather go to "come play mahjong night. we'll be here at these hours playing mahjong." or "friday after-work mahjong party. $10 buy-in fee, come play for fun or rank, food and beverage will be served, meet at the event hall at the ___ hotel." if you're gonna invest the time to participate, you get a lot more enjoyment out of that time investment for a nominal cash investment
月
i don't actually have any points to make, my brain is just floating around it's like 6am sorry haha
>>676515 whoooof looks saltyyy >>676517 oh god it's everything i ever wanted
i've had squid ink spaghet it's aight but tomatoh
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
giant fuckin sideo f natto jesus christ why
Anno
ika.pukin.mpreg
Maria
>>676520 Squid ink is good But I dunno if I've had it with the spag hetty before
>>676518 Do you still play Love Nikki I finally redownloaded it It's even more generous than before with its gatcha
月
well they have a rest bonus i think it's called or something like logging in right now you'll get like a million coins i have like 4000 stamina saved up im not even using
Maria
>>676524 yeah I saw that when I started up again, they just give you a million coins and a thousand diamonds for nothing I love this game
did your client get things rescheduled smoothly on tuesday idk whether that's appropriate for you to talk about but i was thinkin about it and kinda worried for them
Anno
>>676534 uh yeah I think so probably wrong about this but when you talk about stuff like " a six cylinder car ", those be the cylinders they all don't point out like that though
>>676539 Oh, there's no rescheduling. His treatment is on hold until he gets a psychiatric evaluation. We contacted him to cancel his appointment. The next steps are in his case manager's hands.
月
i mean that interaction went through okay though, what with you not being able to contact them there wasn't an incident or something
The office assistant finally got him to answer his phone on Monday and told him, and he got mad and said he didn't understand. He thinks we're part of the conspiracy now, probably. I dunno. We'll see what happens. There wasn't an incident as far as I know, though.
月
aw, that's sad good that they got through though and didn't wait until they showed up to the appointment
moe you're all smart cookies, would Dark Souls be a good buy this steam sale? I like such games as: Castlevania, Zelda, Tetris, Chess, VNs, and assuming the worst -- what's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Also which one should I play if so >>676579 love/fish
Koi
it might be fun. But it also might not be All depends on how you feel about the difficulty, I think.
Koi
I never played it though so don't bother taking my word on it
>>676594 do people still play yeah sure go for it if you can find somethin
Anno
more like hickago pls don't come and kill me with your violent crime rate >>676596 I think people still play it surprisingly some guy made a video about it recently and that got a million or so views
Koi
that chimera that breaks the floor and keeps duplicating itself is hard as hell solo
guys, this is proprietary educational material which im really not supposed to share with people who haven't formally enrolled in the lesson but this information is just too valuable, crypto and cyber security information taught by the absolute best-in-class through these video lectures here
Kirara 🍄
>>676600 haha who knows but i hope they start going mad and killing each other
>>676597 The murder rate is really only high in certain areas. They're pretty easy to avoid.
Anno
yeah I'm jus teasing just easing
FormerRei@mobile
For real though kirara, you should come to Chicago so we can hang out.
Anno
oh byond is dead guess not then
Kokoro
I was on it not an hour ago to nostalgia over Mitadake High and it died in the middle of reading forum posts so just wait a bit I reckon
Kokoro
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I could have also been the murderer for all I know
this new version is crazy fun you get these little character emotes you can use while playing, real subtle nothing obnoxious
Kokoro
>>>/watch?v=gLQG3sORAJQ The popular belief is that t the old man is actually playing with himself, a twist if you will. However if the keen of attention will notice at 2:24 there is in fact two people.
this mahjong soul is so comfy ive been playing it all morning
Anno
Oh those are some interesting visuals. Is this the Mahjong app you were talking about that has a good tutorial or something for unexperienced players?
月
yeah kinshi just showed it to me last night i think it's relatively new, at least in an english version there are like some gacha elements in earning new characters and cosmetics and emotes but it's still normal mahjong using the cute emotes during a game is kind of fun though, especially when there's no other chat function to express reactions to the game going on
Anno
I'll look at it a bit later. I've been interested in Mahjong but way intimidated by the often poor documentation or instruction on how the game works in English.
月
yeah it's surprisingly well organized has a brief interactive tutorial where it shows you the basic rules, then an index of potential yakus it's always necessary to have one yaku in order to have a valid winning hand but it wasn't clear from playing on tenhou (or reading the wiki for that matter) what those consisted of
one thing i like is it has AI functionality which can be interspersed with multiplayer so if i wanted to walk someone through a game i could without putting them into a public lobby with a 5 second timer on each move you can set up to 60 seconds for each move, though i dont suggest taking that much time every move or it will last forever
Anno
Man by the time you get to the fourth tech age in Anno 1800 everything is just absolutely CONFUSING. There's so many production chains and resources you need to supply to your cities but also a few chains and resources that have kind of become deprecated to the higher tech age parts of your cities but still important to the lower tech parts. It's all so dizzyingly complex. I love it.
Anno
It's annoying to not be able to see all the numbers though. Like I know the ratios of Resource X and Workforce Quantity Y in Z many first-stage factories can supply W second-stage factories. But I don't know how much of that final product is being consumed by my civilians so I kind of just have to eyeball it by watching the stockpiled resource number and see if it fluctuates up or down That's a degree of inefficiency that really nags at the corners of my brain that games like these scratch itches from.
Aparently a free update is coming soonish that might bring a contructible building that will let us see those numbers though, which'll be nice.
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Anno
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Kirara 🍄
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Anno
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with a new recurrent net layer type, and 48 minutes of training, the tweets are getting more coherent
how come everytime I play these free to play games they always accuse me of hacking like I'm too fucking poor to afford undetectables please just been playing this ish since I was like 5 please
because brazilians live off of energy succed from the teat of exposing their fellow hacking brazilians it sustains them and levels them up into nega brazilians
Anno
i got accused of hacking when i played that shitty nexon shooter AVA
literally every casual lobby in cs:go hitreg edition that I bother to stay is has like some male that goes "I'm spectating you. I hope you toggle off fast enough." Like, please bitch. You're just making yourself look like a huge clown. hhhhhmmmehehe
Anno
The easiest solution is to just not play multiplayer games!
ive won five out of five of my ranked mahjong games on mahjongsoul so far, by big landslides too it almost makes me forget about not having any work and getting spooked at what im gonna do
wht are you gonna do though, a job that requires keeping 20+ instances in mind and stuggling to keep up with any of them? that's what I'm gonna feel soon.
im fine with the work that i do, it's just that there's none of it right now im flat broke atm which is fine but im supposed to travel to saint louis this month if im lucky, i'll stay broke and not go that way i can avoid having to see any family
if you have to go there in order to help yourself, then you should. Family really does bring out the worst in us. they can be so cruel without even realising it, just because they assumed the blood connection would shield them against any critisism like that. But abuse is fucking abuse, and you have to make that clear to them as soon as possible.
my cocain addict oniisan is coming out of jail tomorrow and dropping by. I sure hope I can fucking even make a sort of normal communication to him. fuck.
how much did you take >>676770 huh he was askin me about whether he should try it recently though damnit i think the timelines got crossed up again sigh
I remember saku-san. When he did his eight balls that night. And I was the only one there to talk to him. And I just fucking let him do it.
月
i'd love to visit NYC it's so cool but i think realistically the trip there would make me too sore to want to do any walking so i'd probably sleep until it's time to go back gotta do a lot of walking there maybe we can do a class trip to niagara falls
Maria
yo moon mahjong? What time is it?
月
it's 12:20am but im invested in some studies at the moment i might hit a wall in the next couple hours or sooner and i'll play
actually do you have others if you got a group ready to play in the new & improved mahjong soul i'd be down im having too much fun with mahsoul to go back
Maria
>>676784 Depends on whether or not we're using majsoul or Tenhou I've seen a lot of threads about it on /v/ and there's a majsoul channel on the discord
>>676786 I think Floop's asleep I know Jan played it once for FFXIV grinding purposes
>>676786 Alright I'll try a que snipe but we need to time this right
月
we can probably queue snipe the south lobbies they're slow enough if // i dont wanna do friendlies unless it's actually with friends, like floop or someone
FormerRei@mobile
>>676785 Huh I'm surprised they let you talk about it on /v/, i thought mahjong was /jp/ and /tg/ only.
lol i think he's in furiten and doesn't know why he can't ron >>676817 haha yeah this is funny you had all three 3 pin right? oh i thought you had all three i was waiting on 3 pin i could have just not declared but i wanted the suppression im just gonna keep this post open so i dont waste posts and spam i feel like this dude is waiting on my chun
Maria
>>676830 yeah I had two of them what were you waiting on?
Maria
damnit this game has gone too long and I need the bathroom MOTHERFUCKER GG
月
he still ended 4th lmao okay thanks are you gonna do more or done
How'd your match go moon Do you think it'd be cancerous of me to spam the superb emote after ronning someone This system makes me want to be a dickhead so badly
月
mine is still going you can spectate i think
Anno
>>676894 Sounds nice, but I've got ANNIE MAY to waych. Watch even. Man I keep doing that tonight.
