>>308026 Yeah it's easy to imagine the damage from a red shell hitting the train
FormerRei@mobile
>>308027 It could even be a bob omb. Although not really because the item boxes in mario kart look different than the ones in super mario.
FormerRei@mobile
Anyways shit like that if left unattended is treated as a potential bomb threat so they bring security and or police over to investigate.
FormerRei@mobileMaria
>leave laptop bag on the train by accident >get interrogated and don't even get back the laptop
FormerRei@mobile
>>308031 Nah, you usually get it back Well If something like that happens, more likely than not someone steals it before someone reports it though
Maria
>>308032 Thieves are doing a public service by clearing potential bombs
FormerRei@mobile
>>308033 That actually happened in the 1996 Atlanta Olympics bombing. Some drinks tried to steal the backpack with the bomb (without knowing what it was) and then out it down because it was too heavy. They ended up moving it enough that it was no longer aimed properly. If it hadn't been repositioned it would likely have been much more deadly.
sk
Holy shit my dudes vermin Supreme replied to one of my tweets
Also NASA was involved in the investigation and helped identify the terrorist.
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
i believe it was a goodie bag from some con
what kind of idiot bomber would use a conspicuous mystery box for their bomb if they wanted to get anyone
Maria
>>308034 Lol That sounds like something from a sitcom
>>308036 The greatest politician ever SK should be very proud of himself >tfw never got that free pony
FormerRei@mobile
>>308039 Oh yeah I remember now He runs for shit a lot Right ?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308038 That's actually been done before though, they'll make it look interesting so someone picks it up and sets it off. Iirc there were some bombs put in giant Teddy bears like 8 or 9 years ago to attract kids. Also the Nazis while retreating during WWII would rig things with explosives Like chocolate bars, whistles, guns All sorts of stuff
sk
Yeah I thought he ran as a Democrat but I guess he just runs in general
FormerRei@mobile
I think this diagram is incorrect about the time delay though
A teddy bear is a little different because it is innocuous.
The problem with the giant yellow Mario box is that everybody is going to remember the person who walks in and sets it down on the subway platform.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308051 People don't just stand around all day on the platform It isn't as easy as you seem to think it is to find witnesses Also I see people with weirder things than that on the train on a regular basis
Yuu
I'd certainly remember seeing it! I might even start a conversation with someone carrying one.
>>308051 Obviously they'll be disguised as mario when they put it down
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
okay mounting it diagonally actually makes a lot of sense looks easy to pull shit out without crouching on the floor or something and it's hueg as xbox so no cramping
Also holy shit NASA is so stingy with their software They must be like the last organization that publicly distributes software for free but also still follows the super anal us export restrictions Like how strong cryptography used to be classified as a munition and American cokpanies couldnt sell software featuring it to overseas customers
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
it's got hot swappable drive bays on the outside
FormerRei@mobile
>>308060 Noice Did you ever see that case that was designed by bmw?
FormerRei@mobile
I see em on sale for under $100 at the microcenter near me sometimes
FormerRei@mobile
This sounds like it was a terrible waste of time to develop compared to other possible solutions to the problem https://software.nasa.gov/software/MFS-33498-1 >This software is only available for use by federal employees and contractors to the federal government working on projects where this tool would be applicable. Y tho
https://software.nasa.gov/software/MFS-32780-1 >Open source >US release only What did they mean by this?
sk
>>308060 O fuk, I thought that was one of those gyro cubes, but also a desktop
FormerRei@mobile
Actually I'm gonna go look at their (microcenter) website right now and see all the cheap things on sale that I won't buy because its a pain to get out there and i dont really need any of it
FormerRei@mobile
Okay this might actually be a good investment http://www.microcenter.com/product/459891/343_Mbps_8x4_DOCSIS_30_Cable_Modem Since our comcast modem/router is so shitty
FormerRei@mobile
Oh wait Shit Is doesn't have an rj-11 jack for our phone
ToN
I'm surprised, all I did was sleep for a few hours and suddenly its moe
FormerRei@mobile
Or a battery back up option
Anno
henlo biches
FormerRei@mobile
Hello
FormerRei@mobile
What the fuck http://www.microcenter.com/product/402309/Level_10_M_Gaming_Mouse_-_Diamond_Black >Level 10 M Gaming Mouse is the first Level 10 gaming peripheral product aiming to extend the Level 10 experience to directly interact with the users. Its emotional design strongly enhances the overall gaming excitement, and that design serves as the agent between gamer and the game, functions as the experience itself. What does that even mean?
FormerRei@mobile
I wonder if this works with Android phones. It does use bluetooth
bangu
that looks dumb af js
Maria
>>308074 >emotional design It let's me really feel the game :(
I should probably get some of these. http://www.microcenter.com/product/416819/35_HDD_Storage_Case_-_Blue
FormerRei@mobile
Holy shit I'd totally get this if not for the fact that it would probably burn out my netbook's usb port http://www.microcenter.com/product/486818/E1659FWU_156_Portable_TN_USB_30_LED_Monitor
The mere existence of this creates many questions.
Anno
>black man with bloodshot eyes insists a $100 bill is "all i got man" while holding a fistful of other bills including a $20 in his other hand >for a 99 cent juice and some smokes
You can get juice for 99 cents at the conbini near my workplace.
FormerRei@mobile
How much are cigarettes where you are anyways?
Anno
>>308129 I told him there ain't no way in hell I'll break a $100 at this time of night and he walked away without his shit. I saw his underwear because he was sagging. They were dark blue. The next person in line was visibly angry about it, too. >>308130 It's not real juice. You can get real juice 2 for $3 though. 16.9oz bottles. >>308134 It's $7.37 after tax for the brand he was going to buy. They are one of the highest, but still less expensive than the most expensive premium brand.
sk
Angry about the guy trying to pay with a $100,or because he could see his underwear?
>>308137 I imagine he was angry that Jan wouldn't break the bill. I also imagine that the bill in question was counterfeit.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308135 Nice Basically every brand costs over $10 where I am.
Anno
>>308137 He was angry that the guy wasted "all that fucking time, and didn't even pay for his shit in the end". It was some old white guy. They tend to be grumpy.
>>308141 That sounds horrible. My brand is 2 for $6 or so usually. $6 each I mean.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308151 It's cause of the "death tax" Also I think you uave to be 21 and up to buy tobacco in cook county now Or maybe juch Chicago and a few suburbs *just
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308147 No seriously nowadays people more often launder money like that to get rid of stolen etc money counterfenting is quite rare nowadays
>>308163 No That's the estate tax, also Trump is getting rid of it (for rich people). The death tax is the tax added onto cigarettes because they kill you.
sk
Oh good Abolish inheritance actually but good luck doing that when you exclusively elect rich white people
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I'd say add a minimum limit on inheritance tax it hurts the poorer and such folks a lot more than rich families since the rates are same for any sum
FormerRei@mobile
Also the lottery is the idiot tax.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308171 Honestly I don't even know the specifics of estate taxes, I'm pretty sure it varies state by state and by estate size and other shit.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>inherits 1000 from distant relative >state takes 250 of it
Anno
>>308152 Cigarettes are taxed 0.5 extra cents per dollar to help pay off bonds that were used to buid the AT&T stadium in my city, and another 0.5 extra cents per dollar as of a month ago to help pay for the new Texas Rangers Stadium/outdoor mall/money machine.
>>308178 All of that money and wealth has already been taxed anyway
sk
Yeah but you didn't earn it though, is the thing
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
And that gives state right to tax it? it already taxed every cent earned or added the VATs and such taxes to it when it was acquired as material goods
FormerRei@mobile
>>308177 Nice Also >The combination of Cook County, Chicago and Illinois taxes on cigarettes totals $5.66 per pack.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308181 >taxed every cent of it Not if you got it through capital gains Which is how most really rich people get even richer
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
In terms of car being inherited it is taxed 3 times >income >VAT when buying it >inheritance tax
sk
Well I mean it's... not like you did anything to earn it Don't get me wrong, it blows, but it would legitimately be better if the state just took all inheritance
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308186 athat doesn't give the state the right to tax it
Anno
>>308182 >you pay more taxes than I pay for my cigarettes when they're discounted
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308183 I am not talking about big rich people I am talking on average and also capital gains are taxed in almost every state in the world too much less than income, though but still taxed
FormerRei@mobile
>>308189 Not as much in the US It got changed back and forth though, not sure about the current status
Yuu
>>308178 The person giving it to you earned it though. People should be able to do what they want to with their stuff.
That's why you should give all the shit out right before you die.
sk
>>308187 The state doesn't have more or less of a right to tax anything There's no difference really between the state taxing capital gains, your paycheck, or your inheritence beyond what you feel is OK
Anno
>>308192 >he doesn't spend $1200 a year to kill himself
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308194 State provides services and you use them and you pay them for by taxing if state provides no services, you can argue it ahs no right to tax it >>308198 you can always leave
sk
>>308196 Holding you at gunpoint and saying "here are some services you'll get though" is still the same no matter what money they're extracting and what services they provide
FormerRei@mobile
>>308186 >but it would legitimately be better if the state just took all inheritance It's time to stop
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
YEah just stop before sammy bans you again
FormerRei@mobile
>>308188 Also they're even more expensive in New York Probably
sk
It'd probably actually be better for the economy too, that's the fucked part
>>308204 Bah I don't trust any state to use that kinds of money wisely though it isn't much better for it to rot in the bank vaults of the rich either
FormerRei@mobile
>>308205 Our tax system is really fucked up and hard to keep track of Also there are shit tons of loopholes and what not that people use to get around it
sk
They don't need to use it wisely Fucking, light it on fire or something
Like just removing it from the system is already a BIG plus compared to letting it just accumulate generation by generation You physically can not spend the money some people inherit in a lifetime other than through investment, you just can't do it
No, I just hate birth circumstances being the main predictor for how your life turns out
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Well spoiling shitty parents who give their kids unearned moeny is the problem if you ask me I wouldn't give a kid a bloody cent if they didn't earn it
FormerRei@mobile
>>308218 That's why my best friend's younger brother is probably getting a bigger chunk of inheritance
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Anyhow here atleast if you have no beneficiaries the state inherits you
sk
>>308218 Then you should be on board with the idea
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308221 No the person and that family has earned that wealth they can do with it as they please be it give it all to charity or all tot heir kids and I do say in case of fairness, big amounts of inheritance should be taxed so it doesn't just keep lying in some forgotten vault but I say that small inheritances should be tax free
State has no right to appropriate the wealth of anyone, be it a living or a dead person they are still protected by the law
FormerRei@mobile
What the fuck
sk
>>308222 The state is like, literally the ones who enabled them to get it at all Nobody earns money independent of the state
>>308234 I havent olayed the demo but I found this and want to share it with you
Anno
>>308241 what a rose-tinted view of the world you have
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
You are quite breaking the law if you are selling vlc discs I mean you could argue you don't profit by selling the program, but just the disc but still
Yuu
>>308246 Would you load VLC on a disc and put it on a webpage for sale for a dollar?
>>308251 I don't think you can make very good money like that. You're probably better off picking up quarters from walmart's parking lot.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308258 It's not legislation Also it's the fucking gpl Of course you can It's all about freedom Except for the freedom to include gpl code in proprietary software
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
that explains all the unity asset games on steam
Anno
>>308259 Excuse you, I collect cans from the car wash and family dollar to buy my MD 20/20 and dope.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308261 Assets aren't code so they may be licensed differently
FormerRei@mobileMaria
>>308262 I wonder if I could get good money collecting cans from the trash bags at KFC
FormerRei@mobileFormerRei@mobile
>>308268 How much can you sell them for? Also probably not Without traveling back in time anyways.
>>308279 Which is why you see lot of bottle gatherers I myself refund every bottle Ig et
FormerRei@mobile
Also there was an episode of Seinfeld about this They did a roadtrip to Michigan because they had a higher deposit amount But they had to do it as part of a postal route in order to make a profit
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
When you buy say a 1€ can of soda, 0,15 of tht is just "container deposit" so you actually LOSE MONEY if you don't recycle your bottles and cans
Maria
>>308280 How close is the place you hand them in? >>308281 Lol remember when Simpsons did this and they didn't even cover the cost of petrol
>>308304 Its bad for the companies who mine aluminum Also because of distribution and transportation and other supply chain nonsense it costs less to use non recycled materials in a lot of places
sk
>>308307 Oh yeah that's true The goddamn economy loses out a little I guess
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308307 Not really we can just use aluminum for other things it is a quite rare metal afterall much more uses for it than cans
bangu
i feel really bang tonight and not the good kind
moon
super spooked about tomorrow
sk
>>308310 Yeah but every lost sale is the state HURTING THE BUSINESS
>>308314 Short term setback in the long run sure some companies would fail but overall it would just be a minor fluxuation
FormerRei@mobile
>>308310 >not really Yeah Dude they can sell it for cans and that other stuff Recycled aluminum companies are their competitors
sk
They could already sell it for other stuff by ramping up production You've just sliced one of their clients Is bad for the business Good for the people, but that's the people-economy dynamic innit
FormerRei@mobile
>>308319 Good for some people in some places Depends on stuff
I say fuck the economy short term if it is good for the sustainable long term economy
FormerRei@mobile
>>308326 I have no problem with that in general, but it depends on how much ficking over there is. However there are many people who have problems with that cough big oil cough
does recycling even real how much of my trash is actually getting used again how do i know i am even helping and not just contributing to a different kind of pile of waste sitting in some warehouse somewhere
bangu
>>308340 it's like the same things that have always tried to keep me down for a while but didn't but now they're doing it i just feel bleh
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308335 Even those people lost a lot of money, though
>>308342 Depends on whwhat Electronics recycling (especially crts) often sits for a while Electronics are really hard to recycle at a scale that is profitable
🌙
forboding comment goes here
sk
>>308344 Some people make mad bank on economic crashes Real estate people and stuff can get real cheap houses and stuff
Is just how it is
FormerRei@mobile
Although honestly having some shit (crts) sit in warehouses is actually a lot better for the environment than putting them in a dump
>>308358 the same thing as always probably shoulder to the wheel
sk
>>308356 Do CRTs even get recycled at all? I dunno if there's anything that can be reused in them, since alll the tech is kinda obsolete
FormerRei@mobile
>>308361 Uhh a little There was a big thing with a company that was trying to recycle a bunch and they got in over their head and now just have millions of them sitting in warehouses Some other companies do though but recycling them is harder than a lot of other electronics >since all the tech is obsolete Dude recycling is generally about reusing materials Also taking apart a crt and breaking it down into stuff that's not terrible for the environment is pretty good too
bangu
maybe the answer is a cold beer
sk
>>308362 Yeah I get that, but like CRTs are mostly glass, circuitboards and some other stuff so
I guess there is some value there, yeah But it seems like it's not very economical to recycle, at least now while all of that stuff is still being produced
FormerRei@mobile
Anyways it's the lead and phosphors that make them hard to dispose of them >>308373 THATS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM also dumping crts is really really bad for the environment
>>308374 I actually know a guy who still uses a CRT cause of the hz
FormerRei@mobile
>>308386 Dude I'd still use one if i had the space There's no better way to play smash melee than on a broadcast studio monitor Plus I need one for time crisis 3
sk
Bring back CRTs Gimme that 2160p CRT
FormerRei@mobile
>>308390 There actually was going to be thin flat panel crts but an lcd manufacturer bougt the patents to prevent it from takibg off
I lifted my share of giant crt tvs and monitors back in the day
FormerRei@mobile
>>308398 Wowme2 >>308397 Gets rid of competition Although we can't know for sure whether or not it would have been a successful technology There were prototypes made but they never tried full scale production so their could have been other issues *there
sk
But they could have just used the patent and made the thing
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I saw an ultra slim crt tv in hungary years back it wasn't really slim since it still ahd rthe huge CRT bulge on it
Yuu
CRTs are heavy.
bangu
I feel like in this moment, I have the first inkling of understanding why people do drugs
sk
>>308410 Did you not before? They're fun Let you zonk out for a bit and not deal with all of this
FormerRei@mobile
>>308404 I don't think you get it They bought the patent to prevent it from becoming a viable competitor They didn't develop the technology further because that would have costs hundreds of millions of dollars
Yuu
>>308410 Well let me assure you with a degree that I haven't assured you of anything before, you do not want to go down that path.
sk
>>308412 Oh, cause other people might have made them too if they started, I guess?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308415 Well no Other people couldn't because of the patent
bangu
>>308414 well yeah come on i justm ean that i had a moment like "oh, i see"
sk
>>308416 Oh, yeah, I think I get what you mean now
R&D is expensive af
Don't a lot of car companies and stuff sit on patents for less gasoline-dependent cars and stuff, too, but they don't make them?
FormerRei@mobile
I think the patent has expired by now though But there's no real reason to do it >>308418 That's just conspiracy theory stuff Well somewhat there is some truth in it but not in the "car companies know how to make super cheap super efficient cars but just don't to make more money" sense
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308418 One reason why electric cars didn't kick off untill someone like musk came along to fund them
sk
>>308420 I figure it's mostly "the big business" scaremongering, but at the same time, wouldn't surprise me
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Is not really conspiracy theory it is investment they take the patents, delve into them slowly and then release some of the tech on their own when it is a good time
banguAnno
car companies would want to develop more efficient vehicles by definition the only opposing lobbying would be from gasoline companies
FormerRei@mobile
>>308424 I mean yes somewhat, but not in the way sk described it
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
If you want tor emove fossil fuels without much resistance, you just need to bring something they can sell at gas station still
FormerRei@mobile
>>308428 Plutonium Also car companies don't make a profit off of gas
sk
>>308426 Not if it's too efficient It's gotta stay possible for them to make you get a new one in a few years that consumes a little bit less fuel
>>308430 They don't but oil corps do and if it is something that can be pumpd into a relatively similiar diesel engine as now what do they got to lose? biodiesel is much more used than oil based diesel here nowadays
FormerRei@mobile
>>308431 You are starting to get into "the medical community is hiding the cure for cancer/aids/whatever because they make more money from treatment than cures" tier conspiracy mongering.
sk
planned obsolesence isn't exactly some conspiratory idea It's a real, documented thing in most industries
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Well anyhow most "this uses water to move your car" are fun proofs or concepts or demotech but I doubt any of them could ahve been made practical I maen fusion energy is already a reality but you use more energy to power it up and keep it running safe than it produces
FormerRei@mobile
>>308437 Yes but not as much in some industries as others Cars actually break down pretty quickly compared to a lot of other products Even with proper maintenance That's why people get new cars, because it becomes more expensive to maintain cars as they get older and or because "it just doesn't work the same anymore"
sk
Oh yeah, I guess the car can just have a hard timelimit on it, too That's a good way to do it
Anno
i'm going to build a bike that is powered by my little sister.
with a separate branch, i'll produce models of little sisters. people will have to get the new models of the bike and the new models of the little sister too. i'll make so much money. they'll break after two years, of course.
It would be prohibitively expensive for everyone involved to make a car that lasts as long as possible
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308451 Modern cars simply have so many parts that the likelyhood of something breaking down is much higher than in the past and with the parts being soemthing your average carage mechanic can't fix or replace you need to either use pro mechanics to fix it or get a new car which sometimes is cheaper not cheaper as in really cheaper, but long term cheaper but still modern cars easily have a lifespan of 20 years if you maintain it proper
FormerRei@mobile
Like it would cost the car companies even more to design and test and redesign and retest everything And then that would make the car be sold for an even higher price which would mean the consumer would have to pay even more
Anno
i was under the impression modern cars were made out of cheap lego shit assembled by trained monkeys in a massive sweatshop near my house, and that's why they break down all the fucking time.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Old cars were in use longer, because they were easier to fix you could with quite little effort become an expert at fixing your own car new cars are not
bangu
maybe i just need ice cream hair
Anno
i want an ice cream chair
FormerRei@mobile
>>308458 That's because nnew cars are more complicated
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
But there has been a change in ethics of making stuff or ethos? can't remember the right word Sure in the past things were made to last but it was more expensive for everyone the thing was more expensive to produce, it cost a fucking small fortune to buy and a similiar fortune to replace or fix nowadays things are produced more and more cheaply for everyone involved sure it does strain our resources, but eventualyl we will just havet to learn to cope with it by recycling shit
FormerRei@mobile
>>308462 Yeah a little bit But the sheer complexity of modern electronics and cars and just fucking whatever makes them in many cases uneconomical to repair most problems
>>308463 Indeed which is why I question why would i need a smart microwave or smart oven or smart fridge don'ta dd shit into it that makes it more likely to break
>>308466 You don't, don't get thst shit Well, maybe a smart fridge but its a slippery slope I only say maybe smart fridge because the reminders of what food to get would be useful But really it would be cheaper to make your own
>>308471 If I called you while you were at class could you tell me everything you had in your fridge and how much of each and what their expiration dates are?
>>308475 "mustard can of rapeoil, bottle of running butter, 1 egg, 1 pot with 1-2 servings of pasta sauce, 1 nearly empty jar of chili, 1 slightly used bottle of lemon juice"
Anno
>>308475 No, but who fucking cares? You only need to know that shit when you are going to prepare a meal soon or going to the store. If you are going to the store you can just look before you go. If you are preparing something it's already too late.
sk
Still can't believe the anglos decided to call it "rapeseed" Crazy
>>308481 just take a pic of your fridge each morning
FormerRei@mobile
>>308479 It's referred to as canola in the us The oil is called canola oil
sk
I like the brutalism of old electronics They're very boxy looking with just the stuff you need on them my microwave has two dials, it doesn't have a display it's REALLY old, still works
Anno
>>308481 I think if you have the need to know, you already know, even without using your smart fridge. I can't conceive of anyone actually benefiting from it.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I would love a new fridge, though Would save me money in power
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308485 This is why I like OBH nordica products they are cheap and just that simple as fuck
FormerRei@mobile
>>308486 They offload the responsibility of keeping track of the contents of their fridge to their fridge It frees them up It's not very useful, but it can be somewhat useful in some cases
Maria
>>308485 This, but specfically for video game consoles Well not brutalistic, but I like how boxy they look, with just slight curves
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
or atleast were dunno how they are now
sk
I bet we could even fix this damn thing if it broke down A fucking fan breaks on my GPU and I gotta just throw it away or find a replacement part through some obscure third party website and hope it works out
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308492 the reliance on pro-fixers and just buying new is what drove replacement parts into raregood territory I would love to tinker with broken machinery, but man do you have to pay a good amount ofm oney to get parts well they are still cheap, but you ahve to buy in bulk
FormerRei@mobile
>>308492 Replacing a fan isn't that hard Now if some SMD part is busted then you're sol unless you know an electronics wizard
sk
>>308494 I think the part that holds the actual fan in place snapped
Actually I do want one of those There are some you can just make WITH 3D printers, it's insane
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
though they are still limited to that plastic whatever material
FormerRei@mobile
>>308499 You can design something and then have shapeways (or whatever they're called) print it and ship it to you >>308501 Abs And also no It depends on a lot of stuff there a bunch of different tyoes of 3d printers that use different methods I assume you're talking about the heated nozzel ones
sk
>>308501 Gun legislation is going STRAIGHT out the window wholesale once they can do metal
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308503 you can make a plastic gun that works once or twice
sk
I know you can make a one-shot gun with plastic But you can't make a 9mm beretta yet
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308502 in terms what an ordinary citizen can afford and can house inside their home
Anno
You can just 3D print a fucking stake and kill someone that way if you really want to argue that angle. Production of weaponry with these things should be illegal.
>>308515 Yeah but like Computers used to be corporations-only stuff because it was super expensive Give it a decade or two
Anno
>>308518 In a decade or two the laws regarding usage of such a device will evolve as well.
sk
Yeah but how do you... actually do that? There's no way you can legislate how someone uses a printer, not just "oh you shouldn't do that", I don't see how you'd actually do it
FormerRei@mobile
https://www.wired.com/2015/06/i-made-an-untraceable-ar-15-ghost-gun/ It has some non 3d printing stuff involved too iirc
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>you wouldn't download a car I WOULD
FormerRei@mobile
>>308519 You can make a gun with tons of other things too Like a machine shop That's literally what people build gun prototypes with
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308521 >list of noscript scripts blocked longer than a hunger year
FormerRei@mobile
Okay yeah cnc mill Which is not a 3d printer But it makes things In 3D So its simolar *similar There are actual 3d printed guns though
sk
What parts of a gun even NEEDS to be metal for it to operate for a while anyway? I assume the barrel, some springs?
well it was a museum it misses some parts like the hammer or whatever so I am not sure how it worked but basically it was not ment to be accurate just make a loud bang
sk
I can't imagine that's accurate at all though You'd need to rifle the barrel, I guess, and that's hard to do for just a dude in a shed, I'd assume >>308536 Naw the soviets were shit
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308535 yeah but you think soviets allowed people guns?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Accurate enough to hit a bear or wolf if they actually come at you and loud enough to scare them if they threaten your animals
Holy shit some of these are clever as hell A GUN DISGUISED AS AN OLD MOTOROLA
FormerRei@mobile
>>308539 Anyways you should read that wired article I think it would be very informative
sk
ye I will
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
my favourite is the soviet umbrella gun
banguTN !PcAPtAiNJo
Shame the assassin got away so no one really knows how it worked shot poisoned balls with spikes or something killed some guy with it during cold war
sk
>All I needed for my entirely legal DIY gunsmithing project was about six hours, a 12-year-old’s understanding of computer software, an $80 chunk of aluminum, and a nearly featureless black 1-cubic-foot desktop milling machine called the Ghost Gunner. >The Ghost Gunner is a $1,500 computer-numerical-controlled (CNC) mill sold by Defense Distributed "All I needed was some basic skills and $80" "Oh and also a $1500 machine that DEFINITELY puts you on a watchlist"
FormerRei@mobile
>>308544 Yee Thanking balls or something Not quite a gun though *thallium
banguTN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308546 well it is called a gun but most likely it worked with air
The restaurant i went to for dinner had $15 avocado toast
Maria
Is avocado toast really that great
FormerRei@mobile
>>308571 No idea But this avocado toast had crab and cheese and sauce and what not on it
sk
Actually never tried avocado Which i guess means I'll be able to afford a house soon
bangu
as someone who grew up with a mexican father i can tell you that spending ~30 cents to make a piece of toast with avocado, sour cream, and a pinch of salt on it is actually delicious
i cannot attest to the efficacy of eating $15 avocado toast though
>>308585 Not really He's like 88 Or 87 and 356 days not including leap days
FormerRei@mobile
Anyways my parents are boomers My grandparents were part of the silent generation Which you've never heard of That's how it got the name (I think)
sk
Boomers are Americans specifically, right?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308588 No But usually when people talk about boomers they mean American
sk
I mean of course there were economic booms everywhere else too, but generally, I mean, yeah
FormerRei@mobile
Baby Boomers rrefers to the generation if people born between 1940 (it's dumb to consider people born before 45 boomers though) and 1964 1965 or so through 1984 or so is gen x 1984 through 1998 or so is gen y (millennials) and then people born after that are gen z Also many trends and habits that are referred to as being "millennial" are actually gen z trends Because some people misinterpret the term millenial as being "born around 2000" But it really refers to having grown up during 2000-2010
FormerRei@mobile
Oh and the generation before the silent generation is the greatest generation Before that was the lost generation
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308591 wait wea re millenials? I always thought they were 70s-80s
FormerRei@mobile
>>308593 Nope Cut off is generally considered to be 1984
>cut off point is 1984 >good amount of millenials somewhat support a 1984 state
FormerRei@mobile
>>308597 But not knowingly Only because they don't understand the ramifications of some things that they think would be good without thinking enough about
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I wonder did any of the people who bought 1984 post trump election, actually read it through and give it some thought
>>308626 why sauna is dry untill you start throwing water in I just clicked the stove on and sat down to read the book while waiting for it to warm up by the time I was done the sauna was warm book is short and quick to read through afterall
sk
Oh I see I thought you meant like, after throwing on water and stuff
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Yeah no that would ruin a book already the heat can be high enough to damage the glueing
FormerRei@mobile
Huh I saw a $40 book on kerbal Maybe I should write one
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
How to send Jebediah orbiting the sun and 101 other tricks
FormerRei@mobile
>>308631 Something like that yeah And then maybe "Advanced Spaceship Design and Trajectory Planning in Kerbal"
sk
Kerbal Space Program?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I want that game
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308632 but what about building a railgun on moon?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308635 Can you do that in it? I've never actually played it I've only designed ships on paper for people Err rockets Anyways my rockets always worked better than theirs
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308636 someguy built a "spacegun" and then put it on rocket and sent it to moon and even on moon it could launch things towards earth
FormerRei@mobile
>>308637 Noice Let's call it a massdriver though That's the technical term
FormerRei@mobile
Also I know how their physics engine works (like down to the math) so I could probably figure out wacky things to do Although actually I remember reading that the dev implented some of it incorrectly And also that he's a fucking douche So make sure to get it on sale or in a humble bundle
>>308641 I don't remember the specifics but he gets super buttmad on the forums when people complain about certain bugs and inefficient implementations of physics stuff
sk
Oh, that's way less bad than I thought it might be
One's more work, and the other is instant gratification from shouting at someone
FormerRei@mobile
Also it requires him to admit that he was wrong
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I dunno if I make a product and it is found to have flaws I for one would seek out to fix them unless it would cost me way too much money and time
sk
Some of the bugs might be so deep in there, fixing them would fuck something else up Possibly
FormerRei@mobile
>>308651 That's basically how all bug fixing is Except for trivial programs That's what regression testing is for
sk
Yeah but this is like A physics engine If you fix the thing that makes a certain thing wobble, you might make something else just not even work
FormerRei@mobile
>>308653 If you you do abstraction properly and some other word that escapes me at the moment no Also no Unless your engine is just kludged together (most are though)
FormerRei@mobile
Like there are ways of planning shit out to minimize that sort of problem but generally games, especially indie games just sort of grow rather than really being planned Same with a lot of software though
sk
Well I don't know much at all about programming, I'm really just giving benefit of the doubt by the truckload here I dunno how these things work, but I assume it's not as easy as 'just fixing it'
FormerRei@mobile
>>308656 You're right its often not Although there are often lots of problems caused by cutting corners early on that become hard to fix later
FormerRei@mobile
But yeah for like a physics engine (sam or blue or someone with lots of programming/game dev experience feel free to cut me iff if im wrong) The engine should be abstracted from the things it operates on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstraction_(software_engineering)
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
But still why Jebediah?
FormerRei@mobile
Also while I normally loathe object oriented programming, I think it is often useful for making games (from my game dev and OOP experience)
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I find it weird that they don't do just object oriented programming for games and such though not that I know any of that shit, but in terms of sounding to layman, you'd think by planning things and following a plan or a guideline fully through the project, you' d get results that are not only better or atleast more cohesive and easier to fix.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308661 Eh OOP is used a ton in game dev Also that's not what object oriented programming means
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
You implied it wasn't
FormerRei@mobile
>>308663 No I shit on OOP all the time Right now I'm stating "this is one think I think its actually good for"
FormerRei@mobile
Like I normally hate it and hate using it for a wide variety of reasons.
FormerRei@mobile
A good summary of my main issue (that should be informative to non programmers) >“The problem with object-oriented languages is they’ve got all this implicit environment that they carry around with them. You wanted a banana but what you got was a gorilla holding the banana and the entire jungle.” – Joe Armstrong
FormerRei@mobile
Anyways Designing rockets is fun
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
DO you ever run out of kerbals?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308668 No idea I've only designed rockets and then done backseat gaming during rocket construction
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I mean it would be amusing to make a "kerbal field" around the sun thousands of kerbals in their little ships orbiting the sun like the asteroid field
FormerRei@mobile
>>308670 Oh There's probably either a hard coded limit or a machine dependent limit By that I mean, a really large number of kerbals will make the game crash on ine computer, but another computer can handle more without crashing Probably I'm not 100% sure which it is thougg
Anno
>>308670 Just shoot the kerbals directly into the sun to save time.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308672 Why kill them? they will live forever in their tiny prisons
Anno
>>308673 So they can shine brightly forever and become as gods.
FormerRei@mobile
>developed in unity Uggh
FormerRei@mobile
Okay yeah now I know it was almost certainly kludged together and why its probably incredibly inefficient and resource intensive
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308674 They'd be much more remembered as an artificial asteroid field that might eventually collapse into a planet of pure kerbal
Anno
>>308677 the kerbal shell blots out the sun and kills the entire galaxy
>>308680 maybe just lie down and close your eyes and don't illuminate yoru face with a phone screen
FormerRei@mobile
>>308682 I'm using a color temperature thing that lowers the intensity of blue light (the wavelengths that make you stay awake more) Also I did that for over 8 hours and only slept for an hour and a half It gets boring pretty fast
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
You are still shining a light on your face and activating your brain by writing and reading
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>30868 → and now you have been posting here since I came from bath so about 5 hours or so
FormerRei@mobile
>>308684 My brain would be just as active, if I were laying in bed doing nothing. My biggest problem is that my brain has trouble "settling down"
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
then my hint is to listen to soemthing droll maybe a silent podcast asmr stuff orwhatever
FormerRei@mobile
>>308687 I listen *Ive been listening to orchestral music for like seven hours straight
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Anyhow I have no real sympathy towards "I am on my phone and can't sleep/I am on my computer and can't sleep" people
FormerRei@mobile
>>308689 Yeah I get what you mean, but in this case I'm on my phone because I can't sleep
>>308713 Someone found an exploit in WPA2 encryption. You know, the Wi-Fi standard. THE STANDARD > This can be abused to steal sensitive information such as credit card numbers, passwords, chat messages, emails, photos, and so on. The attack works against all modern protected Wi-Fi networks >The weaknesses are in the Wi-Fi standard itself, and not in individual products or implementations.
Kirara🎃
ih shiy shit that's bad
Kirara🎃
i guess we're all fucked
Koi-
>Note that if your device supports Wi-Fi, it is most likely affected.
Kirara🎃
so what d
Koi-
As a proof-of-concept we executed a key reinstallation attack against an Android smartphone. In this demonstration, the attacker is able to decrypt all data that the victim transmits. For an attacker this is easy to accomplish, because our key reinstallation attack is exceptionally devastating against Linux and Android 6.0 or higher. This is because Android and Linux can be tricked into (re)installing an all-zero encryption key (see below for more info). When attacking other devices, it is harder to decrypt all packets, although a large number of packets can nevertheless be decrypted.
The new phone will, however, be able to get the patch
Kirara🎃
ah
Koi-
>>308723 It's funny that if you're Android 2 and below, you're a bit safer
ToN
Is it safe to assume that me, a glorious iphone having jerk, am still bomed >>308731 jokes on you I was going to opposite
Kirara🎃
no
Kirara🎃
oh yeah
Koi-
>>308730 >During our initial research, we discovered ourselves that Android, Linux, Apple, Windows, OpenBSD, MediaTek, Linksys, and others, are all affected by some variant of the attacks. >Apple Everything is fucked, ToN. Everything. Android and Linux is just a little more fucked because of wpa_supplicant
sk
the iphone is like the last thing I'd expect to be safe from anything like this
ToN
beans at least if everyone is fucked theres nothing that can be done
sk
This is only wireless though right?
Well I mean it's probably ethernet too but like, you can't covertly do that
Koi-
Wi-Fi The attack specifically exploits a 4-way handshake that happens between Wi-Fi and the device.
sk
Oh I see
moon
glandshake
ToN
I guess I can stop using the free wifi when I visit my grandma in the rehab place
Koi-
That's how it's able to get everything without needing the Wi-Fi password.
sk
Assuming this kinda thing would need root Hm I wonder if my tablet has root still
moon
>>308740 what do you have to get stolen on your phone
ToN
>>308743 on my computer i have probably uh accesses my bank once? i dont know if theres anything valuable on my laptop
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say someone probably put together an app for this already For getting into the wifi networks? That's part of what it does right?
Kirara🎃
for what
ToNKirara🎃
>>308747 it is a difficult hack apparently so i would assume no
sk
Ah Oh well, not like I have a lot of use for it, would just be nice to have internet while going to the shop and stuff, at least until it's fixed
ToN
Well fiddlesticks how am I supposed to host game night like this
sk
All I've got that could have been lost is... twitter I guess? I don't mess with anything sensitive on my phone I guess there's my doctor app thing, but who's gonna hijack that lol
Koi-
>How did you discover these vulnerabilities?
When working on the final (i.e. camera-ready) version of another paper, I was double-checking some claims we made regarding OpenBSD's implementation of the 4-way handshake. In a sense I was slacking off, because I was supposed to be just finishing the paper, instead of staring at code. But there I was, inspecting some code I already read a hundred times, to avoid having to work on the next paragraph. It was at that time that a particular call to ic_set_key caught my attention. This function is called when processing message 3 of the 4-way handshake, and it installs the pairwise key to the driver. While staring at that line of code I thought “Ha. I wonder what happens if that function is called twice”.
Koi-
>In a sense I was slacking off
Kirara🎃
idle hands really are the devil's playthings
ToN
IF HE HAD DONE HIS HOMEWORK WE WOULDNT BE HAVING THIS CRISIS TAIHEN DAAAAAAAAAA
moon
blue when do you start trainjobbing
Kirara🎃
so why did this asshole release the info instead of making sure it got fixed first
moon
>>308759 in some cases releasing the info is the best way to fix it i havent looked at this yet though
Koi-
>>308759 There's a process of full disclosure that normally happens. People do it when a very serious bug is found but isn't fixed fast enough. His research on this came out in May.
Koi-
Oh and releasing the info publicly is done to let people know "Hey, shit is fucked and isn't fixed so be safe."
Kirara🎃
ugh what a load of unneeded stress 2017 is fake and gay
Koi-
>>308758 I have two weeks until I get another call, I think
Koi-
>>308763 Android is rolling out patches, Linux seems to already have an update against it Some routers are also already patching.
ToN
sou Hopefully pan's router is one so I can host game night worry free
he's gonna burn the whole world to the ground dude
sk
Well it looks OK at least Idunno, I didn't understand much of the plot other than he's about to be king and there's a man who wants to destroy things, so he has to be stopped
Kirara🎃
wakanda is basically socialist anyway they don't even trade with other nations unless they absolutely have to
sk
>>308787 They look like some sorta weird mix of FALGSC and monarchism
Kirara🎃
>>308788 they're basically a technocratic african tribe there are a bunch of tribes there in a union and black panther is the head of state
sk
Huh I guess you can fight imperialism by being unknown, too
Kirara🎃
they are super anti-imperialist like they're the most isolationist state there is
sk
I'll give it a watch when it's on BD
Kirara🎃
there was a story in comics a year or two ago where refugees wanted to get into wakanda and wakanda told them no because isolationism is bad though so idk if they'll do anything weird with wakanda in the movie either way it's like all black people in it which is good
It's also nice to get a notification like "So anyway that account is suspended now thank you for reporting" Cause the people who actually work at twitter.com seem to give a shit, even if management doesn't
Kirara🎃
apparently ophelia is going to hit every single british territory except england
Kirara🎃
imperialism confirmed Good
Kirara🎃
also two dead now
sk
Still a fairly low death count, but I guess it's not a super hurricane, either
Kirara🎃
it has only been touching ireland for about an hour
sk
Oh fuck, I thought it'd been around a while
Kirara🎃
they've got a few more hours of this they're not prepared for it either this has never happened before ophelia is the only storm in recorded history to become a major hurricane in that part of the world
sk
Yeah it's really insane But don't worry, everything is fine, everything is fine, everything is fine
Kirara🎃
imagine how bad it'd be if global warming was real!
>A Canadian man who was recently freed after being held in Afghanistan by Taliban-tied kidnappers for five years said he thought his captors were joking when they told him Donald Trump was president. >“It didn’t enter my mind that he was being serious,” Boyle said.
ToN
This is the world we live in
Kirara🎃
and these are the hands we're given
Kirara🎃
use them and let's start trying
Kirara🎃
to make it a place worth living in
Kirara🎃ToNToN
you know my dentists might be a little off because i can kind of feel this wisdom tooth is deeeeefinitely growing sideways
ToN
well, diagonally
Kirara🎃
remove them
ToN
thats expensive i think but im surprised they havent said anything i thought it was a weird tooth but it definitely has a regular tooth shape if you rotate like 45 degrees >>308839 please do it hurts
Kirara🎃
i'll remove them for free
Kirara🎃
i hope you won't regret giving me permission
ToN
if you only remove the one ill be happy
Kirara🎃
You generally want to get all of them at once.
ToN
this is the only one thats doing anything
Kirara🎃
Yeah, but you should get them all while you're in there. If one is bad, they'll all go bad, generally.
ToN
it might calm down eventually at least fir a little bit its done this off and on for a while
Kirara🎃
I can take out your wisdom teeth with a knife.
ToN
aaaaaaaaaaaa
Kirara🎃
Taking them out with a knife actually sounds really exciting.
ToN
*painful
Kirara🎃
Not for me.
ToN
gunununu
Kirara🎃
It's like tearing off the band-aid.
ToN
its like slicing up my mouth
Kirara🎃
It'll heal, unlike the damage a wisdom tooth can do.