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bangu
hey mothafucka hey hi how you doin
FormerRei@mobile
First
1!!!1111!!!!1!1
bangu
n i c e
bangu
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where's all the posters/
FormerRei@mobile
>>308005
Right behind ypu
unsheathes katana
Anno
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bangu
*unzips dick*
Yuu
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Oh my name fell off.
I wonder how long it has been missing.
bangu
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had to clear your recent history?
Yuu
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Yeah, I cleaned it because I deleted a porn post earlier today.
bangu
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oh, that's not fun
Yuu
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Well in the latest one the lady appeared to be old enough and she was only somewhat naked.
So it's not quite as bad as it's been in the past.
moon
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hi moe i'm proper home now
Anno
>>308010
yep
FormerRei@mobile
Oh cool random chest pains, my favorite.
Yuu
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>>308014
Welcome home!
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
>>308014
okaeri nasai
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
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mystery box threatens NYC
Anno
Hopefully not actually dangerous.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308019
What was in it?
A super mushroom?
Maria
>>308019
Lol
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
gotta bowl a turtle shell at it
Yuu
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It's hard to imagine something like that being dangerous.
Maria
>>308024
What if it's a lightning bolt item
It'd cause a huge crash
FormerRei@mobile
>>308024
You're joking right?
Maria
>>308026
Yeah it's easy to imagine the damage from a red shell hitting the train
FormerRei@mobile
>>308027
It could even be a bob omb.
Although not really because the item boxes in mario kart look different than the ones in super mario.
FormerRei@mobile
Anyways shit like that if left unattended is treated as a potential bomb threat so they bring security and or police over to investigate.
FormerRei@mobile
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Maria
>leave laptop bag on the train by accident
>get interrogated and don't even get back the laptop
FormerRei@mobile
>>308031
Nah, you usually get it back
Well
If something like that happens, more likely than not someone steals it before someone reports it though
Maria
>>308032
Thieves are doing a public service by clearing potential bombs
FormerRei@mobile
>>308033
That actually happened in the 1996 Atlanta Olympics bombing. Some drinks tried to steal the backpack with the bomb (without knowing what it was) and then out it down because it was too heavy.
They ended up moving it enough that it was no longer aimed properly.
If it hadn't been repositioned it would likely have been much more deadly.
sk
Holy shit my dudes vermin Supreme replied to one of my tweets
FormerRei@mobile
>>308035
Who?
FormerRei@mobile
Also NASA was involved in the investigation and helped identify the terrorist.
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
i believe it was a goodie bag from some con

what kind of idiot bomber would use a conspicuous mystery box for their bomb if they wanted to get anyone
Maria
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>>308034
Lol
That sounds like something from a sitcom

>>308036
The greatest politician ever
SK should be very proud of himself
>tfw never got that free pony
FormerRei@mobile
>>308039
Oh yeah
I remember now
He runs for shit a lot Right
?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308038
That's actually been done before though, they'll make it look interesting so someone picks it up and sets it off.
Iirc there were some bombs put in giant Teddy bears like 8 or 9 years ago to attract kids.
Also the Nazis while retreating during WWII would rig things with explosives
Like chocolate bars, whistles, guns
All sorts of stuff
sk
Yeah I thought he ran as a Democrat but I guess he just runs in general
FormerRei@mobile
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I think this diagram is incorrect about the time delay though
Yuu
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>>308026
No?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308044
There's this thing called terrorism where aometimes people put bombs in seemingly innocuous objects in order to disguise the bomb.
Yuu
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That box isn't really something you can describe as seemingly innocuous!
FormerRei@mobile
>>308046
Okay?
So would you say its "seemingly dangerous"?
Yuu
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It certainly stands out!
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
>>308041
it doesn't seem to me to be an effective method in this culture of fear
FormerRei@mobile
>>308049
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/11/teddy-bear-on-side-of-road-had-bomb-inside/
Yuu
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A teddy bear is a little different because it is innocuous.

The problem with the giant yellow Mario box is that everybody is going to remember the person who walks in and sets it down on the subway platform.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308051
People don't just stand around all day on the platform
It isn't as easy as you seem to think it is to find witnesses
Also I see people with weirder things than that on the train on a regular basis
Yuu
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I'd certainly remember seeing it!
I might even start a conversation with someone carrying one.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308053
Glad to kmow
*know
Maria
>>308051
Obviously they'll be disguised as mario when they put it down
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
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okay mounting it diagonally actually makes a lot of sense
looks easy to pull shit out without crouching on the floor or something
and it's hueg as xbox so no cramping
FormerRei@mobile
>>308056
What the fuck
FormerRei@mobile
That looks pretty cool
FormerRei@mobile
Also holy shit NASA is so stingy with their software
They must be like the last organization that publicly distributes software for free but also still follows the super anal us export restrictions
Like how strong cryptography used to be classified as a munition and American cokpanies couldnt sell software featuring it to overseas customers
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
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it's got hot swappable drive bays on the outside
FormerRei@mobile
>>308060
Noice
Did you ever see that case that was designed by bmw?
FormerRei@mobile
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I see em on sale for under $100 at the microcenter near me sometimes
FormerRei@mobile
This sounds like it was a terrible waste of time to develop compared to other possible solutions to the problem
https://software.nasa.gov/software/MFS-33498-1
>This software is only available for use by federal employees and contractors to the federal government working on projects where this tool would be applicable.
Y tho
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
>>308062
neato
FormerRei@mobile
https://software.nasa.gov/software/MFS-32780-1
>Open source
>US release only
What did they mean by this?
sk
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>>308060
O fuk, I thought that was one of those gyro cubes, but also a desktop
FormerRei@mobile
Actually I'm gonna go look at their (microcenter) website right now and see all the cheap things on sale that I won't buy because its a pain to get out there and i dont really need any of it
FormerRei@mobile
Okay this might actually be a good investment
http://www.microcenter.com/product/459891/343_Mbps_8x4_DOCSIS_30_Cable_Modem
Since our comcast modem/router is so shitty
FormerRei@mobile
Oh wait
Shit
Is doesn't have an rj-11 jack for our phone
ToN
I'm surprised, all I did was sleep for a few hours and suddenly its moe
FormerRei@mobile
Or a battery back up option
Anno
henlo biches
FormerRei@mobile
Hello
FormerRei@mobile
What the fuck
http://www.microcenter.com/product/402309/Level_10_M_Gaming_Mouse_-_Diamond_Black
>Level 10 M Gaming Mouse is the first Level 10 gaming peripheral product aiming to extend the Level 10 experience to directly interact with the users. Its emotional design strongly enhances the overall gaming excitement, and that design serves as the agent between gamer and the game, functions as the experience itself.
What does that even mean?
FormerRei@mobile
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I wonder if this works with Android phones. It does use bluetooth
bangu
that looks dumb af js
Maria
>>308074
>emotional design
It let's me really feel the game :(
bangu
>>308060
H O T S W A P
Yuu
anime >>308079 →
FormerRei@mobile
I should probably get some of these.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/416819/35_HDD_Storage_Case_-_Blue
FormerRei@mobile
Holy shit
I'd totally get this if not for the fact that it would probably burn out my netbook's usb port
http://www.microcenter.com/product/486818/E1659FWU_156_Portable_TN_USB_30_LED_Monitor
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
>>308078
is this a pre existing meme
FormerRei@mobile
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WTF
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
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FormerRei@mobile
>>308097
Heh
FormerRei@mobile
Any of you get any interesting/odd/cool/whatever electronics rrecently?
moon
i bought some electronic semen
FormerRei@mobile
>>308100
At best buy?
moon
they didn't have it in stock
circuit city
Yuu
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FormerRei@mobile
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The mere existence of this creates many questions.
Anno
>black man with bloodshot eyes insists a $100 bill is "all i got man" while holding a fistful of other bills including a $20 in his other hand
>for a 99 cent juice and some smokes
bangu
the weekend is over but my work never ends
Yuu
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>>308124
seems legit
FormerRei@mobile
>>308124
What'd you end up doing?
Maria
>>308124
>99 cents for juice
nice
Yuu
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You can get juice for 99 cents at the conbini near my workplace.
FormerRei@mobile
How much are cigarettes where you are anyways?
Anno
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>>308129
I told him there ain't no way in hell I'll break a $100 at this time of night and he walked away without his shit.
I saw his underwear because he was sagging. They were dark blue.
The next person in line was visibly angry about it, too.
>>308130
It's not real juice.
You can get real juice 2 for $3 though. 16.9oz bottles.
>>308134
It's $7.37 after tax for the brand he was going to buy. They are one of the highest, but still less expensive than the most expensive premium brand.
sk
Angry about the guy trying to pay with a $100,or because he could see his underwear?
Maria
>>308135
Yeah but still
99 cents
Yuu
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>>308137
I imagine he was angry that Jan wouldn't break the bill.
I also imagine that the bill in question was counterfeit.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308135
Nice
Basically every brand costs over $10 where I am.
Anno
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>>308137
He was angry that the guy wasted "all that fucking time, and didn't even pay for his shit in the end".
It was some old white guy.
They tend to be grumpy.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308124
Sounds quite like money loundering
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308140
Dunno about USA but counterfeiting is quite rate
more over people just want to get rid of shady or dirty money like that
sk
>>308142
Haha
Yuu
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>>308145
People try to fake money all the time.
They don't usually do it particularly well.

But there's really only one thing that a guy with a fistful of twenties trying to break a hundred can be up to.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
*more often
Anno
>>308142
check animegg thread
Anno
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>>308141
That sounds horrible. My brand is 2 for $6 or so usually.
$6 each I mean.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308151
It's cause of the "death tax"
Also I think you uave to be 21 and up to buy tobacco in cook county now
Or maybe juch Chicago and a few suburbs
*just
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308147
No seriously nowadays people more often launder money like that to get rid of stolen etc money
counterfenting is quite rare nowadays
FormerRei@mobile
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What the fuck is that supposed to even mean?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308157
it is a multi ice ice baby
Yuu
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>>308153
okay then what do you think that guy was up to?
sk
>>308152
Isn't the death tax what the government skims from inheritance?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308162
laundering money
FormerRei@mobile
>>308163
No
That's the estate tax, also Trump is getting rid of it (for rich people).
The death tax is the tax added onto cigarettes because they kill you.
sk
Oh good
Abolish inheritance actually but good luck doing that when you exclusively elect rich white people
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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I'd say add a minimum limit on inheritance tax
it hurts the poorer and such folks a lot more than rich families
since the rates are same for any sum
FormerRei@mobile
Also the lottery is the idiot tax.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308171
Honestly I don't even know the specifics of estate taxes, I'm pretty sure it varies state by state and by estate size and other shit.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>inherits 1000 from distant relative
>state takes 250 of it
Anno
>>308152
Cigarettes are taxed 0.5 extra cents per dollar to help pay off bonds that were used to buid the AT&T stadium in my city, and another 0.5 extra cents per dollar as of a month ago to help pay for the new Texas Rangers Stadium/outdoor mall/money machine.
sk
>>308174
To be fair you earned 0 of that so
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308178
All of that money and wealth has already been taxed anyway
sk
Yeah but you didn't earn it though, is the thing
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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And that gives state right to tax it?
it already taxed every cent earned or added the VATs and such taxes to it when it was acquired as material goods
FormerRei@mobile
>>308177
Nice
Also
>The combination of Cook County, Chicago and Illinois taxes on cigarettes totals $5.66 per pack.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308181
>taxed every cent of it
Not if you got it through capital gains
Which is how most really rich people get even richer
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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In terms of car being inherited
it is taxed 3 times
>income
>VAT when buying it
>inheritance tax
sk
Well I mean it's... not like you did anything to earn it
Don't get me wrong, it blows, but it would legitimately be better if the state just took all inheritance
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308186
athat doesn't give the state the right to tax it
Anno
>>308182
>you pay more taxes than I pay for my cigarettes when they're discounted
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308183
I am not talking about big rich people
I am talking on average
and also capital gains are taxed in almost every state in the world too
much less than income, though
but still taxed
FormerRei@mobile
>>308189
Not as much in the US
It got changed back and forth though, not sure about the current status
Yuu
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>>308178
The person giving it to you earned it though.
People should be able to do what they want to with their stuff.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308188
I don't buy cigarettes
FormerRei@mobile
That's why you should give all the shit out right before you die.
sk
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>>308187
The state doesn't have more or less of a right to tax anything
There's no difference really between the state taxing capital gains, your paycheck, or your inheritence beyond what you feel is OK
Anno
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>>308192
>he doesn't spend $1200 a year to kill himself
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308194
State provides services and you use them and you pay them for by taxing
if state provides no services, you can argue it ahs no right to tax it
>>308198
you can always leave
sk
>>308196
Holding you at gunpoint and saying "here are some services you'll get though" is still the same no matter what money they're extracting and what services they provide
FormerRei@mobile
>>308186
>but it would legitimately be better if the state just took all inheritance
It's time to stop
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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YEah just stop before sammy bans you again
FormerRei@mobile
>>308188
Also they're even more expensive in New York
Probably
sk
It'd probably actually be better for the economy too, that's the fucked part
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308203
>not taxed
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308204
Bah
I don't trust any state to use that kinds of money wisely
though it isn't much better for it to rot in the bank vaults of the rich either
FormerRei@mobile
>>308205
Our tax system is really fucked up and hard to keep track of
Also there are shit tons of loopholes and what not that people use to get around it
sk
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They don't need to use it wisely
Fucking, light it on fire or something

Like just removing it from the system is already a BIG plus compared to letting it just accumulate generation by generation
You physically can not spend the money some people inherit in a lifetime other than through investment, you just can't do it
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308209
On average
all income
is taxed
FormerRei@mobile
>>308210
That sounds like a challenge
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308210
So you simply hate prosperity and wealth
sk
No, I just hate birth circumstances being the main predictor for how your life turns out
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Well spoiling shitty parents who give their kids unearned moeny is the problem if you ask me
I wouldn't give a kid a bloody cent if they didn't earn it
FormerRei@mobile
>>308218
That's why my best friend's younger brother is probably getting a bigger chunk of inheritance
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Anyhow here atleast if you have no beneficiaries the state inherits you
sk
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>>308218
Then you should be on board with the idea
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308221
No
the person and that family has earned that wealth
they can do with it as they please
be it give it all to charity
or all tot heir kids
and I do say in case of fairness, big amounts of inheritance should be taxed so it doesn't just keep lying in some forgotten vault
but I say that small inheritances should be tax free

State has no right to appropriate the wealth of anyone, be it a living or a dead person
they are still protected by the law
FormerRei@mobile
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What the fuck
sk
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>>308222
The state is like, literally the ones who enabled them to get it at all
Nobody earns money independent of the state
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308224
Hue hue
FormerRei@mobile
>>308224
What about people who go find shipwrecks with treasure outside of economic exclusion zones?
Checkmate Athiest
Anno
>>308223
how much money are these fuckers even making off of a disc
FormerRei@mobile
>>308227
$0.98 or so
Yuu
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>>308223
>>308227
How much does a CD cost?
Well, you also have to factor in labor I guess.
And any packaging.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308229
Okay maybe $0.95
Anno
>>308228
So you'd have to sell like 10 of these an hour to make this even remotely worth doing
ToN
where did jan go
Anno
what
FormerRei@mobile
>>308231
What?
sk
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Dude there are bootleg CDs with Steam on them
FormerRei@mobile
>>308237
It's actually perfectly legal to put GPL software on a disc and sell it
Anno
>>308236
I'm saying it's a stupid scam
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308237
and big triple a games with steam dl link on them
Yuu
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>>308239
Yeah, seems like a lot of work to make no money.

Rather than being a scam it's probably just someone who likes to software trying to open a distribution channel for it.
sk
>>308240
Yeah but you get the game though
FormerRei@mobile
>>308239
Yeah
It's for old people and computer illiterate s
FormerRei@mobile
>>308241
>someone who likes to software
What
ToN
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>>308234
I havent olayed the demo but I found this and want to share it with you
Anno
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>>308241
what a rose-tinted view of the world you have
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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You are quite breaking the law if you are selling vlc discs
I mean you could argue you don't profit by selling the program, but just the disc
but still
Yuu
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>>308246
Would you load VLC on a disc and put it on a webpage for sale for a dollar?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308247
No you aren't
VLC is gpl
Anno
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>>308248
if it was a decent enough way to make money, I guess. It sounds like a boring way to make money, though.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308250
Does it grant you the right to resell it, though?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308252
Yes
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
with no modifications on it?
Maria
>>308231
I bet I could find 10 retards an hour
FormerRei@mobile
>>308255
Yes
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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shitty legislation
Yuu
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>>308251
I don't think you can make very good money like that.
You're probably better off picking up quarters from walmart's parking lot.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308258
It's not legislation
Also it's the fucking gpl
Of course you can
It's all about freedom
Except for the freedom to include gpl code in proprietary software
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
that explains all the unity asset games on steam
Anno
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>>308259
Excuse you, I collect cans from the car wash and family dollar to buy my MD 20/20 and dope.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308261
Assets aren't code so they may be licensed differently
FormerRei@mobile
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Maria
>>308262
I wonder if I could get good money collecting cans from the trash bags at KFC
FormerRei@mobile
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FormerRei@mobile
>>308268
How much can you sell them for?
Also probably not
Without traveling back in time anyways.
Maria
>>308271
Like 10c
FormerRei@mobile
>>308274
Seriously?
Oh yeah I forgot not usd
Uhh, what's the conversion rate?
That still sounds like a lot though
Maria
>>308275
NZd buys 0.71 USD
SUFFERING
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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here you get 10c for any glass bottle
15 for cans
and 20 for 0,5l plastic
and 40 for 1,5l plastic
FormerRei@mobile
Actually you probably get more because nz is tiny and they save money by recycling as opposed to here where you dont
Maria
>>308277
Damn there's money to be made here
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308279
Which is why you see lot of bottle gatherers
I myself refund every bottle Ig et
FormerRei@mobile
Also there was an episode of Seinfeld about this
They did a roadtrip to Michigan because they had a higher deposit amount
But they had to do it as part of a postal route in order to make a profit
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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When you buy say a 1€ can of soda, 0,15 of tht is just "container deposit"
so you actually LOSE MONEY
if you don't recycle your bottles and cans
Maria
>>308280
How close is the place you hand them in?
>>308281
Lol remember when Simpsons did this and they didn't even cover the cost of petrol
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308283
every store has a recycle machine
sk
>>308252
You're allowed to redistribute it as long as you maintain the gpl license, yeah
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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in use
FormerRei@mobile
>>308283
That was different
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
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tHe STatE
Maria
Yeah I just really liked that but
sk
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Legislated recycling is one of the good things about the scandi states
Very good shit
bangu
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what a depressing night
FormerRei@mobile
>>>/watch?v=x1blsZxXDCU
FormerRei@mobile
>>308295
I think we pay to recycle here
Well for recycle pickuo
We might be able to write it off on taxes though
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308295
all the other EU states are jelly about it
I hear we are working a deal that would make say bottles from sweden recyclable in here
and so on
sk
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>>308301
I can't understand why anyone would be opposed to it
It's just a good thing for everyone

The bottles aren't more expensive, you get the money back
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308304
Well it does initially increase prices
FormerRei@mobile
>>308304
Its bad for the companies who mine aluminum
Also because of distribution and transportation and other supply chain nonsense it costs less to use non recycled materials in a lot of places
sk
>>308307
Oh yeah that's true
The goddamn economy loses out a little I guess
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308307
Not really
we can just use aluminum for other things
it is a quite rare metal afterall
much more uses for it than cans
bangu
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i feel really bang tonight
and not the good kind
moon
super spooked about tomorrow
sk
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>>308310
Yeah but every lost sale is the state HURTING THE BUSINESS
Maria
>>308312
But Halloween is still a week away
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308314
Short term setback in the long run
sure some companies would fail
but overall it would just be a minor fluxuation
FormerRei@mobile
>>308310
>not really
Yeah
Dude they can sell it for cans and that other stuff
Recycled aluminum companies are their competitors
sk
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They could already sell it for other stuff by ramping up production
You've just sliced one of their clients
Is bad for the business
Good for the people, but that's the people-economy dynamic innit
FormerRei@mobile
>>308319
Good for some people in some places
Depends on stuff
bangu
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TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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I say fuck the economy short term if it is good for the sustainable long term economy
FormerRei@mobile
>>308326
I have no problem with that in general, but it depends on how much ficking over there is.
However there are many people who have problems with that cough big oil cough
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
>>308319
enough
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Playing short term is what always leads to crashes like 2008
sk
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>>308328
oki oki I'll simmer down

But still, recycling is good
FormerRei@mobile
>>308329
People made a lot of money off of that
That's why it happened
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
>>308331
wow real astute observation tehre
bangu
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>tfw tfw tfw tfw tfw tfw tfw tfw tfw tfw tfw tfw tfw tfw tfw tfw
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

aj423p9fa
sk
>>308312
What's happenin' tomorrow?
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
>>308337
what's keepin you down pardner
FormerRei@mobile
You guys know what else is hood?
*good
Anno
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does recycling even real
how much of my trash is actually getting used again
how do i know i am even helping and not just contributing to a different kind of pile of waste sitting in some warehouse somewhere
bangu
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>>308340
it's like the same things that have always tried to keep me down for a while but didn't
but now they're doing it
i just feel
bleh
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308335
Even those people lost a lot of money, though
FormerRei@mobile
>>308342
None of it if its in the trash
sk
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>>308342
Mostly just paper, carton, plastic and metal
Hard plastic
The soft stuff I think is just thrown away
FormerRei@mobile
>>308344
Not all of them
FormerRei@mobile
>>308342
Depends on whwhat
Electronics recycling (especially crts) often sits for a while
Electronics are really hard to recycle at a scale that is profitable
🌙
forboding comment goes here
sk
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>>308344
Some people make mad bank on economic crashes
Real estate people and stuff can get real cheap houses and stuff

Is just how it is
FormerRei@mobile
Although honestly having some shit (crts) sit in warehouses is actually a lot better for the environment than putting them in a dump
Yuu
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>>308351

foreboding comments are not allowed
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
>>308343
is there anything to be done?
bangu
>>308358
the same thing as always probably
shoulder to the wheel
sk
>>308356
Do CRTs even get recycled at all?
I dunno if there's anything that can be reused in them, since alll the tech is kinda obsolete
FormerRei@mobile
>>308361
Uhh a little
There was a big thing with a company that was trying to recycle a bunch and they got in over their head and now just have millions of them sitting in warehouses
Some other companies do though but recycling them is harder than a lot of other electronics
>since all the tech is obsolete
Dude recycling is generally about reusing materials
Also taking apart a crt and breaking it down into stuff that's not terrible for the environment is pretty good too
bangu
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maybe the answer is a cold beer
sk
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>>308362
Yeah I get that, but like
CRTs are mostly glass, circuitboards and some other stuff so
FormerRei@mobile
>>308367
Glass, lead, phosphors, copper, iron, rubber, tungsten (I think), rare earth metals, plastics ........
sk
I guess there is some value there, yeah
But it seems like it's not very economical to recycle, at least now while all of that stuff is still being produced
FormerRei@mobile
Anyways it's the lead and phosphors that make them hard to dispose of them
>>308373
THATS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM
also dumping crts is really really bad for the environment
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
>>308359
steely resolve
FormerRei@mobile
Anyways the thing that's good is nuclear power.
Anno
>>308375
steely reserve
bangu
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oh god not the steel reserve
sk
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>>308374
I actually know a guy who still uses a CRT cause of the hz
FormerRei@mobile
>>308386
Dude I'd still use one if i had the space
There's no better way to play smash melee than on a broadcast studio monitor
Plus I need one for time crisis 3
sk
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Bring back CRTs
Gimme that 2160p CRT
FormerRei@mobile
>>308390
There actually was going to be thin flat panel crts but an lcd manufacturer bougt the patents to prevent it from takibg off
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308390
>weigh 200kg
FormerRei@mobile
>>308394
Do you even lift?
sk
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>>308393
why this
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I lifted my share of giant crt tvs and monitors back in the day
FormerRei@mobile
>>308398
Wowme2
>>308397
Gets rid of competition
Although we can't know for sure whether or not it would have been a successful technology
There were prototypes made but they never tried full scale production so their could have been other issues
*there
sk
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But they could have just used the patent and made the thing
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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I saw an ultra slim crt tv in hungary years back
it wasn't really slim since it still ahd rthe huge CRT bulge on it
Yuu
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CRTs are heavy.
bangu
I feel like in this moment, I have the first inkling of understanding why people do drugs
sk
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>>308410
Did you not before?
They're fun
Let you zonk out for a bit and not deal with all of this
FormerRei@mobile
>>308404
I don't think you get it
They bought the patent to prevent it from becoming a viable competitor
They didn't develop the technology further because that would have costs hundreds of millions of dollars
Yuu
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>>308410
Well let me assure you with a degree that I haven't assured you of anything before, you do not want to go down that path.
sk
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>>308412
Oh, cause other people might have made them too if they started, I guess?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308415
Well no
Other people couldn't because of the patent
bangu
>>308414
well yeah come on
i justm ean that i had a moment like "oh, i see"
sk
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>>308416
Oh, yeah, I think I get what you mean now

R&D is expensive af

Don't a lot of car companies and stuff sit on patents for less gasoline-dependent cars and stuff, too, but they don't make them?
FormerRei@mobile
I think the patent has expired by now though
But there's no real reason to do it
>>308418
That's just conspiracy theory stuff
Well somewhat there is some truth in it but not in the
"car companies know how to make super cheap super efficient cars but just don't to make more money" sense
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308418
One reason why electric cars didn't kick off untill someone like musk came along to fund them
sk
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>>308420
I figure it's mostly "the big business" scaremongering, but at the same time, wouldn't surprise me
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Is not really conspiracy theory it is investment
they take the patents, delve into them slowly and then release some of the tech on their own when it is a good time
bangu
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Anno
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car companies would want to develop more efficient vehicles by definition
the only opposing lobbying would be from gasoline companies
FormerRei@mobile
>>308424
I mean yes somewhat, but not in the way sk described it
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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If you want tor emove fossil fuels without much resistance, you just need to bring something they can sell at gas station still
FormerRei@mobile
>>308428
Plutonium
Also car companies don't make a profit off of gas
sk
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>>308426
Not if it's too efficient
It's gotta stay possible for them to make you get a new one in a few years that consumes a little bit less fuel
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308430
Liquid thorium
Anno
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>>308428
power your car with malt liquor
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308430
They don't but oil corps do
and if it is something that can be pumpd into a relatively similiar diesel engine as now
what do they got to lose?
biodiesel is much more used than oil based diesel here nowadays
FormerRei@mobile
>>308431
You are starting to get into "the medical community is hiding the cure for cancer/aids/whatever because they make more money from treatment than cures" tier conspiracy mongering.
sk
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planned obsolesence isn't exactly some conspiratory idea
It's a real, documented thing in most industries
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Well anyhow most "this uses water to move your car" are fun proofs or concepts or demotech
but I doubt any of them could ahve been made practical
I maen fusion energy is already a reality
but
you use more energy to power it up and keep it running safe
than it produces
FormerRei@mobile
>>308437
Yes but not as much in some industries as others
Cars actually break down pretty quickly compared to a lot of other products
Even with proper maintenance
That's why people get new cars, because it becomes more expensive to maintain cars as they get older and or because "it just doesn't work the same anymore"
sk
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Oh yeah, I guess the car can just have a hard timelimit on it, too
That's a good way to do it
Anno
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i'm going to build a bike that is powered by my little sister.
sk
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>>308441
But how will you mass produce this?

Will your sister make them?
Anno
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>>308442
I'll sell it, but tell buyers they have to use their own little sister.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308442
by mass producing little sisters
FormerRei@mobile
>>308440
What
Anno
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with a separate branch, i'll produce models of little sisters.
people will have to get the new models of the bike and the new models of the little sister too.
i'll make so much money.
they'll break after two years, of course.
sk
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>>308443
Oh that makes sense
sk
>>308445
Why keep it inefficient when it can just break down instead
FormerRei@mobile
>>308448
I hope you aren't implying that cars break down in order for people to buy new cars
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308446
And then sell big daddies to sister owners so their imoutos aren't stolen
sk
>>308449
Well the manufacturers do rely on it
Whether it's intentional or not, it's definitely beneficial
bangu
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maybe my age is catching up to me
maybe i'm just scared of growing up
maybe i'm scared of being alone
maybe i'm just tired
Anno
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>>308450
and then when I PRESS THE SWITCH THEIR EYES TURN RED AND THEY LASH OUT AGAINST THEIR MASTERS
FormerRei@mobile
>>308451
Let me just stop you there

It would be prohibitively expensive for everyone involved to make a car that lasts as long as possible

TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308451
Modern cars simply have so many parts that the likelyhood of something breaking down is much higher
than in the past
and with the parts being soemthing your average carage mechanic can't fix or replace
you need to either use pro mechanics to fix it
or get a new car
which sometimes is cheaper
not cheaper as in really cheaper, but long term cheaper
but still modern cars easily have a lifespan of 20 years if you maintain it proper
FormerRei@mobile
Like it would cost the car companies even more to design and test and redesign and retest everything
And then that would make the car be sold for an even higher price which would mean the consumer would have to pay even more
Anno
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i was under the impression modern cars were made out of cheap lego shit assembled by trained monkeys in a massive sweatshop near my house, and that's why they break down all the fucking time.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Old cars were in use longer, because they were easier to fix
you could with quite little effort become an expert at fixing your own car
new cars
are not
bangu
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maybe i just need ice cream hair
Anno
i want an ice cream chair
FormerRei@mobile
>>308458
That's because nnew cars are more complicated
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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But there has been a change in ethics of making stuff
or ethos?
can't remember the right word
Sure in the past things were made to last
but it was more expensive for everyone
the thing was more expensive to produce, it cost a fucking small fortune to buy
and a similiar fortune to replace or fix
nowadays things are produced more and more cheaply for everyone involved
sure it does strain our resources, but eventualyl we will just havet to learn to cope with it by recycling shit
FormerRei@mobile
>>308462
Yeah a little bit
But the sheer complexity of modern electronics and cars and just fucking whatever makes them in many cases uneconomical to repair most problems
Anno
>>308462
ethos is right
bangu
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>>308460
i want an ice cream to care
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308463
Indeed
which is why I question why would i need a smart microwave
or smart oven
or smart fridge
don'ta dd shit into it that makes it more likely to break
Anno
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>>308465
i lost my ice cream. but where?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308466
You don't, don't get thst shit
Well, maybe a smart fridge but its a slippery slope
I only say maybe smart fridge because the reminders of what food to get would be useful
But really it would be cheaper to make your own
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308468
In due time if trend follows, you MUST
Anno
i want a fridge that is just a box you open from the top
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308468
I don't see a need for a smart fridge
I call that smart fridge "a functioning memory and opening to check it"
sk
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>making good things for people to use is economically unviable
[shaking]
Anno
that's why good things are called luxury things and shit things are called economy things dude
FormerRei@mobile
>>308472
Blame China
FormerRei@mobile
>>308471
If I called you while you were at class could you tell me everything you had in your fridge and how much of each and what their expiration dates are?
Anno
>>308472
economy is codeword for "low $"
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308475
"mustard can of rapeoil, bottle of running butter, 1 egg, 1 pot with 1-2 servings of pasta sauce, 1 nearly empty jar of chili, 1 slightly used bottle of lemon juice"
Anno
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>>308475
No, but who fucking cares?
You only need to know that shit when you are going to prepare a meal soon or going to the store. If you are going to the store you can just look before you go. If you are preparing something it's already too late.
sk
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Still can't believe the anglos decided to call it "rapeseed"
Crazy
bangu
>>308467
you left your ice cream at the fair
FormerRei@mobile
>>308477
>>308478
Anyways smart fridges are useless for most people
But they are conceivably useful for soccer moms
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308479
I love it
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308481
just take a pic of your fridge each morning
FormerRei@mobile
>>308479
It's referred to as canola in the us
The oil is called canola oil
sk
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I like the brutalism of old electronics
They're very boxy looking with just the stuff you need on them
my microwave has two dials, it doesn't have a display
it's REALLY old, still works
Anno
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>>308481
I think if you have the need to know, you already know, even without using your smart fridge.
I can't conceive of anyone actually benefiting from it.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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I would love a new fridge, though
Would save me money in power
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308485
This is why I like OBH nordica products
they are cheap
and just that
simple as fuck
FormerRei@mobile
>>308486
They offload the responsibility of keeping track of the contents of their fridge to their fridge
It frees them up
It's not very useful, but it can be somewhat useful in some cases
Maria
>>308485
This, but specfically for video game consoles
Well not brutalistic, but I like how boxy they look, with just slight curves
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
or atleast were
dunno how they are now
sk
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I bet we could even fix this damn thing if it broke down
A fucking fan breaks on my GPU and I gotta just throw it away or find a replacement part through some obscure third party website and hope it works out
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308492
the reliance on pro-fixers and just buying new is what drove replacement parts into raregood territory
I would love to tinker with broken machinery, but man do you have to pay a good amount ofm oney to get parts
well they are still cheap, but you ahve to buy in bulk
FormerRei@mobile
>>308492
Replacing a fan isn't that hard
Now if some SMD part is busted then you're sol unless you know an electronics wizard
sk
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>>308494
I think the part that holds the actual fan in place snapped
FormerRei@mobile
>>308495
Like a plastic part?
sk
Yeah
FormerRei@mobile
>>308497
Glue it
Or 3D print a replacement
sk
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Oh yeah lemme just get a fuckin' 3D printer
sk
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Actually I do want one of those
There are some you can just make WITH 3D printers, it's insane
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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though they are still limited to that plastic whatever material
FormerRei@mobile
>>308499
You can design something and then have shapeways (or whatever they're called) print it and ship it to you
>>308501
Abs
And also no
It depends on a lot of stuff there a bunch of different tyoes of 3d printers that use different methods
I assume you're talking about the heated nozzel ones
sk
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>>308501
Gun legislation is going STRAIGHT out the window wholesale once they can do metal
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308503
you can make a plastic gun that works
once or twice
sk
I know you can make a one-shot gun with plastic
But you can't make a 9mm beretta yet
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308502
in terms what an ordinary citizen can afford and can house inside their home
Anno
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You can just 3D print a fucking stake and kill someone that way if you really want to argue that angle.
Production of weaponry with these things should be illegal.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308503
Already can
sk
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>>308508
THEY CAN?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308509
Yeah
Lemme link you
FormerRei@mobile
>>308506
There are like a few different tyoes
Depends whether or not you count a really smart diy guy as an ordinary citizen or not though
sk
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>>308507
I fundamentally disagree, but also that's unenforcable, so
sk
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>>308511
If you feed the machine a blueprint and it poops out a gun shaped, functioning metal object, I'll take it
FormerRei@mobile
>>308507
It is
Sort of
Gun laws are weird
Anno
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>>308512
It's probably not that difficult to know who owns a 3D printer here.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308513
It's a bit more involved
bangu
i'm swimming in feels
sk
>>308515
Yeah but like
Computers used to be corporations-only stuff because it was super expensive
Give it a decade or two
Anno
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>>308518
In a decade or two the laws regarding usage of such a device will evolve as well.
sk
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Yeah but how do you... actually do that?
There's no way you can legislate how someone uses a printer, not just "oh you shouldn't do that", I don't see how you'd actually do it
FormerRei@mobile
https://www.wired.com/2015/06/i-made-an-untraceable-ar-15-ghost-gun/
It has some non 3d printing stuff involved too iirc
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>you wouldn't download a car
I WOULD
FormerRei@mobile
>>308519
You can make a gun with tons of other things too
Like a machine shop
That's literally what people build gun prototypes with
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308521
>list of noscript scripts blocked longer than a hunger year
FormerRei@mobile
Okay yeah cnc mill
Which is not a 3d printer
But it makes things
In 3D
So its simolar
*similar
There are actual 3d printed guns though
sk
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What parts of a gun even NEEDS to be metal for it to operate for a while anyway?
I assume the barrel, some springs?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308526
barrel, springs, hammer most likely
sk
>>308527
Those are the kinda things you could get at a hardware store or just cut out yourself, I imagine
FormerRei@mobile
>>308528
Yeah
Google "zipgun"
Also maybe read the thing
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
yup
bangu
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TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308528
Like look at this shepherd gun from soviet union
sk
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>>308532
>the sickle as well
that's my aesthetic
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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well it was a museum
it misses some parts like the hammer or whatever so I am not sure how it worked
but basically it was not ment to be accurate
just make a loud bang
sk
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I can't imagine that's accurate at all though
You'd need to rifle the barrel, I guess, and that's hard to do for just a dude in a shed, I'd assume
>>308536
Naw the soviets were shit
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308535
yeah but you think soviets allowed people guns?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Accurate enough to hit a bear or wolf if they actually come at you
and loud enough to scare them if they threaten your animals
Maria
>>308531
what's got her pupils all constricted
sk
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Holy shit some of these are clever as hell
A GUN DISGUISED AS AN OLD MOTOROLA
FormerRei@mobile
>>308539
Anyways you should read that wired article
I think it would be very informative
sk
ye I will
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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my favourite is the soviet umbrella gun
bangu
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TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Shame the assassin got away so no one really knows how it worked
shot poisoned balls with spikes or something
killed some guy with it during cold war
sk
>All I needed for my entirely legal DIY gunsmithing project was about six hours, a 12-year-old’s understanding of computer software, an $80 chunk of aluminum, and a nearly featureless black 1-cubic-foot desktop milling machine called the Ghost Gunner.
>The Ghost Gunner is a $1,500 computer-numerical-controlled (CNC) mill sold by Defense Distributed
"All I needed was some basic skills and $80"
"Oh and also a $1500 machine that DEFINITELY puts you on a watchlist"
FormerRei@mobile
>>308544
Yee
Thanking balls or something
Not quite a gun though
*thallium
bangu
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TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308546
well it is called a gun but most likely it worked with air
FormerRei@mobile
>>308548
And was also painless iirc
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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pneumatic I guess?
>>308549
a small sting
something you'd ignore
but enough to poison you
sk
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>>308548
First confirmed softgun kill?
bangu
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FormerRei@mobile
>>308550
Mostly painless
FormerRei@mobile
>>308545
Just keep reading
sk
I am I am
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Hmm I need to make big pots of sauce more oft
is fucking easy to just cook pasta to eat a small protion of it each time
or rice
bangu
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Anno
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let's play paintball with frozen balls of broken glass
bangu
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Maria
>>308558
this but we do it shirtless
bangu
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Anno
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>>308560
While ice skating.
FormerRei@mobile
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I'm having trouble thinking of any programming book with a more apt title.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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on melting spring ice
Maria
>>308562
>>308564
FormerRei@mobile
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If WordPress design were programming then this title would be more apt.
But it's not
bangu
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bangu
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Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
>>308472
you make me cringe
FormerRei@mobile
The restaurant i went to for dinner had $15 avocado toast
Maria
Is avocado toast really that great
FormerRei@mobile
>>308571
No idea
But this avocado toast had crab and cheese and sauce and what not on it
sk
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Actually never tried avocado
Which i guess means I'll be able to afford a house soon
bangu
as someone who grew up with a mexican father i can tell you that spending ~30 cents to make a piece of toast with avocado, sour cream, and a pinch of salt on it is actually delicious

i cannot attest to the efficacy of eating $15 avocado toast though
Maria
>>308572
This sounds like a real clusterfuck tbh
FormerRei@mobile
>>308575
My grandfather's girlfriend seemed to like it though
>>308574
It had crab meat on it
bangu
>baby boomers blame us for avocado toast
>then they spend their boomer money on it
FormerRei@mobile
>>308577
Lol
This woman is not a baby boomer
I'm like 24 why would my grandparents be baby boomers?
bangu
but did she pay for the meal?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308579
No
My grandfather did
bangu
was your grandfather born after 1964?

fuck, my mom is barely not a baby boomer
FormerRei@mobile
>>308581
Nigga
My grandfather was vorn before the great depression
*born
bangu
wait
whoa
older than boomers
well shit dude
FormerRei@mobile
>>308583
Grandparents are supposed to be old
bangu
that's impressively old
FormerRei@mobile
>>308585
Not really
He's like 88
Or 87 and 356 days not including leap days
FormerRei@mobile
Anyways my parents are boomers
My grandparents were part of the silent generation
Which you've never heard of
That's how it got the name (I think)
sk
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Boomers are Americans specifically, right?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308588
No
But usually when people talk about boomers they mean American
sk
I mean of course there were economic booms everywhere else too, but generally, I mean, yeah
FormerRei@mobile
Baby Boomers rrefers to the generation if people born between 1940 (it's dumb to consider people born before 45 boomers though) and 1964
1965 or so through 1984 or so is gen x
1984 through 1998 or so is gen y (millennials) and then people born after that are gen z
Also many trends and habits that are referred to as being "millennial" are actually gen z trends
Because some people misinterpret the term millenial as being "born around 2000"
But it really refers to having grown up during 2000-2010
FormerRei@mobile
Oh and the generation before the silent generation is the greatest generation
Before that was the lost generation
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308591
wait wea re millenials?
I always thought they were 70s-80s
FormerRei@mobile
>>308593
Nope
Cut off is generally considered to be 1984
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308594
Quite ironic
FormerRei@mobile
>>308595
Rly makes you think
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>cut off point is 1984
>good amount of millenials somewhat support a 1984 state
FormerRei@mobile
>>308597
But not knowingly
Only because they don't understand the ramifications of some things that they think would be good without thinking enough about
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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I wonder did any of the people who bought 1984 post trump election, actually read it through and give it some thought
FormerRei@mobile
>>308599
Probably
sk
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It's a very good book, so if they opened it they probably finished it
A lot of people buy books just to have them on a shelf though
Maria
>>308599
More than you'd think but less than you'd hope
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308601
I dunno
I don't think the average reader would sit through it
FormerRei@mobile
Also I'm wearing my farenheit 451 tshirt right now
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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I wish I still had acopy of that book
I want to reread it
FormerRei@mobile
>>308605
Did you burn it?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
nope misplaced it somewhere
sk
>>308603
Really?
I guess I had an easier time since I was reading inbetween work to pass the time
FormerRei@mobile
>>308608
I read it for the first time when I was about ten
I think I might have two copiez of ut
*copies of it
sk
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Wait was there actually a spike in sales for it after Trump got into office?
That's kinda odd
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
yup
FormerRei@mobile
>>308610
Rly makes you thnk
sk
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I mean I guess I can see the reasoning, but Trump isn't really a Party kinda guy
FormerRei@mobile
>>308613
That's just what he wants you to think
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
trump is practically goldstein, though
sk
Shocking truth!
FormerRei@mobile
Sam you still here?

TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I should reread animal farm
I wonder which shelf I put it on
sk
>>308615
Kinda?
I mean Goldstein didn't even necessarily even exist
>>308621
Eh, a bit of a stretch
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
though finnish title is "revolution of the animals"
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308619
not as in the person or what he might have been but the effect
atleast on parts of the media and such
Samu ☕️ !KW2DbpWwls
>>308617
sup
FormerRei@mobile
>>308622
Which do yyou prefer, python 2 or 3?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Coincidentally I read animal farm in sauna
FormerRei@mobile
HA
Microcenter sells K&R
But for like $70~ dollars
sk
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>>308624
Wouldn't that make the pages all damp?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308626
why
sauna is dry untill you start throwing water in
I just clicked the stove on and sat down to read the book while waiting for it to warm up
by the time I was done the sauna was warm
book is short and quick to read through afterall
sk
Oh I see
I thought you meant like, after throwing on water and stuff
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Yeah no that would ruin a book
already the heat can be high enough to damage the glueing
FormerRei@mobile
Huh
I saw a $40 book on kerbal
Maybe I should write one
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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How to send Jebediah orbiting the sun and 101 other tricks
FormerRei@mobile
>>308631
Something like that yeah
And then maybe "Advanced Spaceship Design and Trajectory Planning in Kerbal"
sk
Kerbal Space Program?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I want that game
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308632
but what about building a railgun on moon?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308635
Can you do that in it?
I've never actually played it
I've only designed ships on paper for people
Err rockets
Anyways my rockets always worked better than theirs
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308636
someguy built a "spacegun" and then put it on rocket and sent it to moon
and even on moon it could launch things towards earth
FormerRei@mobile
>>308637
Noice
Let's call it a massdriver though
That's the technical term
FormerRei@mobile
Also I know how their physics engine works (like down to the math) so I could probably figure out wacky things to do
Although actually I remember reading that the dev implented some of it incorrectly
And also that he's a fucking douche
So make sure to get it on sale or in a humble bundle
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Who even buys games at full price?
sk
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>>308639
aw cripe
what'd he do?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308641
I don't remember the specifics but he gets super buttmad on the forums when people complain about certain bugs and inefficient implementations of physics stuff
sk
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Oh, that's way less bad than I thought it might be
FormerRei@mobile
Like nothing major, he's just kind of a dick
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Why not instead of complaining fix them?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
*being dick about it
FormerRei@mobile
>>308645
Cause that's harder
sk
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One's more work, and the other is instant gratification from shouting at someone
FormerRei@mobile
Also it requires him to admit that he was wrong
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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I dunno
if I make a product and it is found to have flaws
I for one would seek out to fix them
unless it would cost me way too much money and time
sk
Some of the bugs might be so deep in there, fixing them would fuck something else up
Possibly
FormerRei@mobile
>>308651
That's basically how all bug fixing is
Except for trivial programs
That's what regression testing is for
sk
Yeah but this is like
A physics engine
If you fix the thing that makes a certain thing wobble, you might make something else just not even work
FormerRei@mobile
>>308653
If you you do abstraction properly and some other word that escapes me at the moment no
Also no
Unless your engine is just kludged together (most are though)
FormerRei@mobile
Like there are ways of planning shit out to minimize that sort of problem but generally games, especially indie games just sort of grow rather than really being planned
Same with a lot of software though
sk
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Well I don't know much at all about programming, I'm really just giving benefit of the doubt by the truckload here
I dunno how these things work, but I assume it's not as easy as 'just fixing it'
FormerRei@mobile
>>308656
You're right its often not
Although there are often lots of problems caused by cutting corners early on that become hard to fix later
FormerRei@mobile
But yeah for like a physics engine (sam or blue or someone with lots of programming/game dev experience feel free to cut me iff if im wrong)
The engine should be abstracted from the things it operates on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstraction_(software_engineering)
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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But still
why Jebediah?
FormerRei@mobile
Also while I normally loathe object oriented programming, I think it is often useful for making games (from my game dev and OOP experience)
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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I find it weird that they don't do just object oriented programming for games and such
though not that I know any of that shit, but in terms of sounding to layman, you'd think by planning things and following a plan or a guideline fully through the project, you'
d get results that are not only better or atleast more cohesive and easier to fix.
FormerRei@mobile
>>308661
Eh
OOP is used a ton in game dev
Also that's not what object oriented programming means
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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You implied it wasn't
FormerRei@mobile
>>308663
No
I shit on OOP all the time
Right now I'm stating "this is one think I think its actually good for"
FormerRei@mobile
Like I normally hate it and hate using it for a wide variety of reasons.
FormerRei@mobile
A good summary of my main issue (that should be informative to non programmers)
>“The problem with object-oriented languages is they’ve got all this implicit environment that they carry around with them. You wanted a banana but what you got was a gorilla holding the banana and the entire jungle.” – Joe Armstrong
FormerRei@mobile
Anyways
Designing rockets is fun
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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DO you ever run out of kerbals?
FormerRei@mobile
>>308668
No idea
I've only designed rockets and then done backseat gaming during rocket construction
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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I mean it would be amusing to make a "kerbal field" around the sun
thousands of kerbals in their little ships
orbiting the sun
like the asteroid field
FormerRei@mobile
>>308670
Oh
There's probably either a hard coded limit or a machine dependent limit
By that I mean, a really large number of kerbals will make the game crash on ine computer, but another computer can handle more without crashing
Probably
I'm not 100% sure which it is thougg
Anno
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>>308670
Just shoot the kerbals directly into the sun to save time.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308672
Why kill them?
they will live forever in their tiny prisons
Anno
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>>308673
So they can shine brightly forever and become as gods.
FormerRei@mobile
>developed in unity
Uggh
FormerRei@mobile
Okay yeah now I know it was almost certainly kludged together and why its probably incredibly inefficient and resource intensive
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308674
They'd be much more remembered as an artificial asteroid field
that might eventually collapse into a planet of pure kerbal
Anno
>>308677
the kerbal shell blots out the sun and kills the entire galaxy
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>308678
perfect
FormerRei@mobile
>after 4am
>not tired
Fuck
sk
>>308680
know the feeling
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>308680
maybe just lie down and close your eyes and don't illuminate yoru face with a phone screen
FormerRei@mobile
>>308682
I'm using a color temperature thing that lowers the intensity of blue light (the wavelengths that make you stay awake more)
Also I did that for over 8 hours and only slept for an hour and a half
It gets boring pretty fast
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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You are still shining a light on your face
and activating your brain by writing and reading
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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>>30868 →
and now you have been posting here since I came from bath
so about 5 hours or so
FormerRei@mobile
>>308684
My brain would be just as active, if I were laying in bed doing nothing.
My biggest problem is that my brain has trouble "settling down"
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then my hint is to listen to soemthing droll
maybe a silent podcast
asmr stuff
orwhatever
FormerRei@mobile
>>308687
I listen
*Ive been listening to orchestral music for like seven hours straight
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Anyhow I have no real sympathy towards "I am on my phone and can't sleep/I am on my computer and can't sleep"
people
FormerRei@mobile
>>308689
Yeah I get what you mean, but in this case I'm on my phone because I can't sleep
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well being on your phone doesn't helop
FormerRei@mobile
>>308691
It helps me not be bored out of my skull
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
i'd recommend reading a book
FormerRei@mobile
Anyways I'm going to try going to sleep
Oyasumi
Anno
see you around
Anno
👀
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>30-60 minutes before I have to jump into a bus
>I wonder do I have money on my travel card
sk
bring cash in case
ToN
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ToN
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Kirara🎃
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moon
>>308702
what about it
Kirara🎃
a snack as good as that advertising campaign
ToN
Finally you have arrived
moon
those mushroom agnolotti buitoni things are fucking good
7 bucks though while on sale that's spensives
Koi-
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>when you take out and prepare a bunch of ingredients thinking you're making something good to eat
>realize you're hungry right now
>despair
Kirara🎃
someone in Ireland already got killed by Ophelia
Kirara🎃
the people of ireland are freaked out by all the weird lights hurricanes bring too
sk
>>308708
We could have prevented this
Kirara🎃
I actually have an ide a to prevent this
Koi-
>KRACK
oh no
oh no
oh no
this is bad
Kirara🎃
>>308712
??
Koi-
>>308713
Someone found an exploit in WPA2 encryption.
You know, the Wi-Fi standard.
THE STANDARD
> This can be abused to steal sensitive information such as credit card numbers, passwords, chat messages, emails, photos, and so on. The attack works against all modern protected Wi-Fi networks
>The weaknesses are in the Wi-Fi standard itself, and not in individual products or implementations.
Kirara🎃
ih
shiy
shit
that's bad
Kirara🎃
i guess we're all fucked
Koi-
>Note that if your device supports Wi-Fi, it is most likely affected.
Kirara🎃
so what d
Koi-
As a proof-of-concept we executed a key reinstallation attack against an Android smartphone. In this demonstration, the attacker is able to decrypt all data that the victim transmits. For an attacker this is easy to accomplish, because our key reinstallation attack is exceptionally devastating against Linux and Android 6.0 or higher. This is because Android and Linux can be tricked into (re)installing an all-zero encryption key (see below for more info). When attacking other devices, it is harder to decrypt all packets, although a large number of packets can nevertheless be decrypted.
Koi-
>>>/watch?v=Oh4WURZoR98
Kirara🎃
ughgugh

Kirara🎃
>google is going to push an Android security fix for November
sk
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guess I gotta get a new phone real soon
ToN
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Oh
goood
ToN
>>308722
that's good
Kirara🎃
>>308723
the new phone will also be vulnerable
sk
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The new phone will, however, be able to get the patch
Kirara🎃
ah
Koi-
>>308723
It's funny that if you're Android 2 and below, you're a bit safer
ToN
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Is it safe to assume that me, a glorious iphone having jerk, am still bomed
>>308731
jokes on you I was going to opposite
Kirara🎃
no
Kirara🎃
oh yeah
Koi-
>>308730
>During our initial research, we discovered ourselves that Android, Linux, Apple, Windows, OpenBSD, MediaTek, Linksys, and others, are all affected by some variant of the attacks.
>Apple
Everything is fucked, ToN.
Everything.
Android and Linux is just a little more fucked because of wpa_supplicant
sk
the iphone is like the last thing I'd expect to be safe from anything like this
ToN
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beans
at least if everyone is fucked theres nothing that can be done
sk
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This is only wireless though right?

Well I mean it's probably ethernet too but like, you can't covertly do that
Koi-
Wi-Fi
The attack specifically exploits a 4-way handshake that happens between Wi-Fi and the device.
sk
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Oh I see
moon
glandshake
ToN
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I guess I can stop using the free wifi when I visit my grandma in the rehab place
Koi-
That's how it's able to get everything without needing the Wi-Fi password.
sk
Assuming this kinda thing would need root
Hm I wonder if my tablet has root still
moon
>>308740
what do you have to get stolen on your phone
ToN
>>308743
on my computer i have probably uh accesses my bank once?
i dont know if theres anything valuable on my laptop
moon
yeah, device
not phone
my b
Koi-
>>308742
what would need root?
sk
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I'm gonna take a wild guess and say someone probably put together an app for this already
For getting into the wifi networks?
That's part of what it does right?
Kirara🎃
for what
ToN
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Kirara🎃
>>308747
it is a difficult hack apparently so i would assume no
sk
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Ah
Oh well, not like I have a lot of use for it, would just be nice to have internet while going to the shop and stuff, at least until it's fixed
ToN
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Well fiddlesticks how am I supposed to host game night like this
sk
All I've got that could have been lost is... twitter I guess?
I don't mess with anything sensitive on my phone
I guess there's my doctor app thing, but who's gonna hijack that lol
Koi-
>How did you discover these vulnerabilities?

When working on the final (i.e. camera-ready) version of another paper, I was double-checking some claims we made regarding OpenBSD's implementation of the 4-way handshake. In a sense I was slacking off, because I was supposed to be just finishing the paper, instead of staring at code. But there I was, inspecting some code I already read a hundred times, to avoid having to work on the next paragraph. It was at that time that a particular call to ic_set_key caught my attention. This function is called when processing message 3 of the 4-way handshake, and it installs the pairwise key to the driver. While staring at that line of code I thought “Ha. I wonder what happens if that function is called twice”.
Koi-
>In a sense I was slacking off
Kirara🎃
idle hands really are the devil's playthings
ToN
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IF HE HAD DONE HIS HOMEWORK WE WOULDNT BE HAVING THIS CRISIS
TAIHEN DAAAAAAAAAA
moon
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blue when do you start trainjobbing
Kirara🎃
so why did this asshole release the info instead of making sure it got fixed first
moon
>>308759
in some cases releasing the info is the best way to fix it
i havent looked at this yet though
Koi-
>>308759
There's a process of full disclosure that normally happens.
People do it when a very serious bug is found but isn't fixed fast enough.
His research on this came out in May.
Koi-
Oh and releasing the info publicly is done to let people know "Hey, shit is fucked and isn't fixed so be safe."
Kirara🎃
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ugh
what a load of unneeded stress
2017 is fake and gay
Koi-
>>308758
I have two weeks until I get another call, I think
Koi-
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>>308763
Android is rolling out patches, Linux seems to already have an update against it
Some routers are also already patching.
ToN
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sou
Hopefully pan's router is one so I can host game night worry free
Koi-
https://char.gd/blog/2017/wifi-has-been-broken-heres-the-companies-that-have-already-fixed-it
Kirara🎃
i probably can't get the android fix until AT&T gives me it though
ToN
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when will that be and also why would that be
Kirara🎃
because android security patches are done through the OS updating which can't be done on my phone without AT&T pushing
as for when?
who knows
ToN
fun
ToN
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Even if this were a security update, spot the joke
moon
>>308772
>Cricket
is that the joke
ToN
>>308773
n-no
Kirara🎃
>>308772
requires wifi?
sk
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oooh multitasking
Kirara🎃
the joke is probably that the entire thing looks like a joke
ToN
>>308775
yeah
Kirara🎃
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I guess I'm just not using wifi on my phone or tablet for a while.
Kirara🎃
and i guess i have to buy a LAN adapter for my nintendo switch
Kirara🎃
in happier news the new Black Panther trailer looks amazing
Koi-
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I should go cook and eat
Kirara🎃
>>>/@chadwickboseman/919915537190318080
make sure you watch the trailer before you go
sk
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>>308783
>the revolution
He's... he's royalty
Kirara🎃
he's gonna burn the whole world to the ground dude
sk
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Well it looks OK at least
Idunno, I didn't understand much of the plot other than he's about to be king and there's a man who wants to destroy things, so he has to be stopped
Kirara🎃
wakanda is basically socialist anyway
they don't even trade with other nations unless they absolutely have to
sk
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>>308787
They look like some sorta weird mix of FALGSC and monarchism
Kirara🎃
>>308788
they're basically a technocratic african tribe
there are a bunch of tribes there in a union and black panther is the head of state
sk
Huh
I guess you can fight imperialism by being unknown, too
Kirara🎃
they are super anti-imperialist
like they're the most isolationist state there is
sk
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I'll give it a watch when it's on BD
Kirara🎃
there was a story in comics a year or two ago where refugees wanted to get into wakanda and wakanda told them no because isolationism is bad though so idk if they'll do anything weird with wakanda in the movie
either way it's like all black people in it which is good
sk
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>>308793
WAKANDA IS NAZBOL
Kirara🎃
apparently the sky in UK is all red
i hope kannagi gets a lot of great pictures of it

also everything is really fucked up when the whole of UK and Ireland's skies are red and so is the sky in california
sk
Different reasons, but yeah
Kirara🎃
it's the end of the world
sk
Maybe the mayans were right
Kirara🎃
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sk
There's so much happening all at once right now, it's unreal
Kirara🎃
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it's gonna keep getting worse
ToN
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I'll just keep on doing what I do
sk
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I like how twitter lets you know that your reports are being being processed
It's pretty neat, most sites it's just quietly dealt with
Koi-
>Your storage device is almost full
oh yeah, this is a terrible phone
Kirara🎃
>>308803
yeah agreed
sk
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It's also nice to get a notification like
"So anyway that account is suspended now thank you for reporting"
Cause the people who actually work at twitter.com seem to give a shit, even if management doesn't
Kirara🎃
apparently ophelia is going to hit every single british territory except england
Kirara🎃
imperialism confirmed Good
Kirara🎃
also two dead now
sk
Still a fairly low death count, but I guess it's not a super hurricane, either
Kirara🎃
it has only been touching ireland for about an hour
sk
Oh fuck, I thought it'd been around a while
Kirara🎃
they've got a few more hours of this
they're not prepared for it either
this has never happened before
ophelia is the only storm in recorded history to become a major hurricane in that part of the world
sk
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Yeah it's really insane
But don't worry, everything is fine, everything is fine, everything is fine
Kirara🎃
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imagine how bad it'd be if global warming was real!
ToN
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>>308814
are you channeling my inner mantra
sk
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>>308815
So glad that's a hoax
sk
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>>308816
I was actually referring to some old propaganda cartoon, hahah


Actually I should make >>308815 this into a tweet
Kirara🎃
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us
sk
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lessee how many followers that costs me
Kirara🎃
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I can't wait for today to be over
ToN
but once today is iver tomorrow begins
Kirara🎃
tomorrow will be fine
ToN
tomorrow will be fire
Kirara🎃
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every day is fire
Kirara🎃
>>>/@thehill/919947314055254016
sk
Haha
That's rough to come back to
Kirara🎃
>A Canadian man who was recently freed after being held in Afghanistan by Taliban-tied kidnappers for five years said he thought his captors were joking when they told him Donald Trump was president.
>“It didn’t enter my mind that he was being serious,” Boyle said.
ToN
This is the world we live in
Kirara🎃
and these are the hands we're given
Kirara🎃
use them and let's start trying
Kirara🎃
to make it a place worth living in
Kirara🎃
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ToN
you know my dentists might be a little off because i can kind of feel this wisdom tooth is deeeeefinitely growing sideways
ToN
well, diagonally
Kirara🎃
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remove them
ToN
thats expensive i think
but im surprised they havent said anything
i thought it was a weird tooth but it definitely has a regular tooth shape if you rotate like 45 degrees
>>308839
please do it hurts
Kirara🎃
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i'll remove them for free
Kirara🎃
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i hope you won't regret giving me permission
ToN
if you only remove the one ill be happy
Kirara🎃
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You generally want to get all of them at once.
ToN
this is the only one thats doing anything
Kirara🎃
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Yeah, but you should get them all while you're in there.
If one is bad, they'll all go bad, generally.
ToN
it might calm down eventually at least fir a little bit
its done this off and on for a while
Kirara🎃
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I can take out your wisdom teeth with a knife.
ToN
aaaaaaaaaaaa
Kirara🎃
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Taking them out with a knife actually sounds really exciting.
ToN
*painful
Kirara🎃
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Not for me.
ToN
gunununu
Kirara🎃
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It's like tearing off the band-aid.
ToN
its like slicing up my mouth
Kirara🎃
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It'll heal, unlike the damage a wisdom tooth can do.
ToN
ill just watch anime all day
Kirara🎃
ああああ
FormerRei@mobile
Ohio
ToN
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toot
FormerRei@mobile
Also Krack has a website and a logo
TN
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