it's early but i felt like making a new thread anyway
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
this thread is a persimmon that eats the guests next to it
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
i feel so bad for the youtubers that are getting demonitized
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
And everyone is just "lol shuldda get a real juub" that was their job and they put real work hours to their content...
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
we live in the age of the new hotness
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
it's really insane these people are getting 9-18% of their previous income like these people have been doing this for a while, it's their source of income
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I mean, it is bit crinky when people are "gib me patroen money or I die" levels or even worse "gib me patroen money or the ENEMY wins" but still alphabet inc is just being shit
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
like how did computing forever put it "they presume the audience will stay when all the content and content creators they loved have gone away"
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
it's the dumbest censorship too
like ads have been on ISIS RECRUITMENT VIDEOS FOR YEARS
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
But it might just be youtube being idiot and hitting panic button in way overblown fashion kinda like the DMCA thing a year a go or what was it
What did they call it back then >>75581 Depends on advertisers it is some companies going apeshit, and then it is other cmpanies not giving a fuck
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
oh you're talking about the ones that are having monitization removed from content that gets flagged as 18+ or what have you?
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>75579 it's the advertisers they started threatening to pull all ad funding and youtube had to change the policies so they wouldn't >>75580 no haha having content that's flagged as "wrongthink" no longer gets you money
>>75579 youtubers are losing 80-90% of their income so most of the advertisers are doing it
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
But it is still fun how it is EXTREMISTS so... independent content creators are all extremists now? Old media pls
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
oh good it's more nonsense than what already existed? Fantastic.
Can everyone just die please
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>75582 if they have wrong ideas, they're extremists
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I don't get youtube or google or ather alphabet inc Why did they fund hillary for example? And how do they still LOSE money on youtube?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
But you now get the channels that have sponsor deals with blue aprons and great courses+ and whatnots they kinda realised youtube ads weren't a stable source of income.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
i should start a youtube channel and make videos about how youtube is being stupid
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Doushio channel
ToN
People already do that though
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
there's nothing new under the sun
but if you build a better mousetrap, the world will carve a path to your door
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Don't think you'd be suited for a rant channel, though
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
i'm a pretty big ranter i rant all the time, just not here
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
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Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
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ToN
Mii
八十八
>>75581 there's no security in entrepreneurship they may have put work hours into making money, but not securing that stream it's a strategic folly that a lot of them managed to avoid, some didn't limit your stream and secure it instead of overexpanding and getting comfy i do sympathize but i don't think it's unfair
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
everybody needs somebody
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>75596 my problem isn't that they've lost their income my problem is that they've lost their income BECAUSE they have the wrong opinions
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
it's a direct attack on thought
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
And general dickery from youtube and the advertisers
八十八
>>75598 you lost me on that second line oh wait nevermind ig // i get it eh i dunno
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I'd give them a shred of respect if they outright came out we don't want the following >list but instead they are all "EXTREMISTS HAVE OUR ADS ON THEIR VIDEOS" so disagreeing is extremism?
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>75601 well, as long as you have the "right" opinions, you get to keep getting paid even if you're a dinky little channel with barely anyone watching if you have 400k subscribers but the "wrong" opinions, you can't talk about your opinions or you get punished
八十八
as long you make content that's of value to people, you don't have to worry about that advertisements are endorsements for athletes or large venues it always bothered me that a single person's being ad monetized it didn't sit well with me and still doesn't, though i'm not sure i understood why before
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Or a three "journalists" tell your sponsors you are a nazi and then when they believe that claim, make a story how that person lost their sponsors because they are a nazi
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>75604 i don't really care whether they make revenue or not
what i care about is that there isn't a system designed to censor people in place and what youtube is doing now is obviously designed to pressure people into having the "right" opinions even if youtube didn't intend to do that, they designed it to
八十八
what i'm saying is, regardless of intentions, i feel that this shift is not going to shepherd the benefitters (sp) into compliance for ad revenue, but shepherd ad revenue out of an unstable environment that it waywardly made its way to in the first place it's a flow of necessity, the intentions are just the manifestations of the resistance being faced
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>75606 But they are a private corporation anahahahanahanha
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>75607 we can already see youtubers that have been demonitized talking about how they're going to try to put out videos that will be able to make money or talking about how they are going to have to start looking for a job chris ray gun for example
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
so maybe it's not going to kill EVERYONE who thinks wrong but it's going to kill off some of them it's censorship even if it only stops 60% of them from talking
八十八
the buffalo keep travelling north where it's cold instead of staying here where we can hunt them in the comfort of the warmth it's so unfair let's just sit here and eat the dirt until the buffalo return -ancestors of modern youtubers
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
can you explain the relevance of that to the argument?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>75611 I will make a border fence to the northern grazing zone and only let people who I like through >youtube and advertiser's ancestors
八十八
>>75612 What is the argument? That the censorship is a disgrace? That might be the outlet that caused this change to happen, but that's not the pressure behind it it was just the weakest wall to break and easiest to tap into on a broad spectrum
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
So you say a company with a near monopoly hold on internet traffic, can just freely go and censor people left and right as it wishes? Imagine if medicine was like that "nawww, i can't give you this pill, you voted trump" "Nah, you said abortion is wrong, go out of my hospital"
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>75614 my argument is that mass censorship of ideas is wrong and that youtube is wrong in doing what they are doing saying "they can go somewhere else" isn't really relevant because while true, has nothing to do with my argument here
八十八
that's actually not what i said in the buffalo analogy i meant having to adapt to the environment to get your resources follow your buffalo and get that through adaptation. i agree that the censorship is retarded and i agree that it shouldn't be a reason for youtube doing what they're doing but i think it's wrong to view that censorship as a central pivot point, that everything would be A-OK if it wasn't for the censorship issues there's a lot of pressure against ad monetization and that's an outlet that's possibly more accessible and relevant only due to the fact that it's easier to complain about
ToN
You shouldn't have to censor your content that people want to watch to not lose your ad revenue you've already negotiated for
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
and the main point is that youtube+advertisers still say "we are just censoring extremism" basically, they are bullshitting they are censoring what they dislike not extremism. Or maybe extremism has become equally useless word as racism, sexism of fascist
Koi-
Is there a press release on this
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
>>75620 she shouldn't twist her arteries like that
>>75638 i used the trolley problem as an example of how small, seemingly insignificant details can change someone's perception of a situation she got so fucking excited and she grabbed some publication she did when she was in graduate school that was about the monty hall problem and how people's answers to it change with the context
when she offered me the position, she said my insight and broad knowledge base stood out among the other applicants probably because i read some of her publications and asked questions about them haha
Kirara I didn't notice when playing but if you play too passively against the end boss of the second DLC they just teleport behind you
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
nothin personnel... kid
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
Seeing it happen to someone is pretty hilarious
Kannagi
The aprils fools are fun
八十八
>>75640 seriously a publication on the monty hall problem is she fuckin 180 years old
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
no a publication on how people's answers to it change with the context i.e. about cognitive factors in decision making
八十八
the context of the phrasing or the context of the environment in which the same question is asked
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
environment
八十八
same phrasing ? so it's not like that age-drink vs number-letter card turnover experiment
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
it's not like, "this is the problem" is how you have to present the experience err present the problem
it's just putting the content of the problem into different contexts it's using the monty hall problem, man it's not psychic it's about factors influencing decision making
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
like the problem in one context and the problem in another context can be exactly the same, only the context is different but people make different decisions due to the context even though the problem is exactly the same problem
八十八
that's what i'm curious and asking about >>75654 yeah i might not be expressing it very clearly but there's two ways i meaningfully see to change the context and that's what i was asking about one is the conceptual formatting of the question and the other is in the elements used e.g. logical reasoning with the letter-number experiment where a card with an even number on it must have the letter D on the back side, you have four cards, etc etc which cards do you have to turn over to ensure that the rules are followed and people always fuck it up
same exactly logical formatting, but the cards instead show a beverage and an age, and the condition is if alcohol, then the age is over 21 and people instinctively know how to troubleshoot that equation just because it's familiar elements even though it's an identical logical process
it's not really that important and i wish i didn't have to write it out in such depth to explain but my words really aren't working right lately
八十八
im more concerned about being misunderstood than the actual question i'm asking
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
I don't know all of the details of it because she mentioned it briefly, but the gist of it was that the monty hall problem was adapted into a setting where participants had to deliver mail or something and needed to figure out which of three doors the mail belonged to. After selecting one, they'd go through the whole monty hall problem bit and all that They also had people doing the classic problem People doing the classic problem were significantly more likely to get the answer right than the adapted version even though everything was the same other than the context They couldn't figure out what was making the difference in decision making, though That's all I really know about it
八十八
envelopes of mail are all pretty congruent things i think the lossy situation helps the brain categorize the scenarios beforehand better because it's easier to resolve the permutations of donkey donkey car than it is envelope envelope envelope that's just my first glance thought on the situation, obviously i didn't do the experiment and i'm not arguing for or against it i'm really curious about what the hypothesis was before the experiment but so that i dont annoy anyone i'll just ask myself for anything else i think about tonight
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
yeah i really don't know unfortunatly i'll have plenty of opportunities to ask about it though
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
I entered a contest to be interviewed on the Rubin Report.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Whatcha gonna say there if you get there?
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
i want to talk about censorship i had to say three things that i'd talk about with rubin so i said i wanted to talk about how diversity of thought is important, how labels have become more important than people, and how the mass censorship in the us is leading to a mental health crisis
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
And no one can even shout white male because you are jewish super aidoru
Koi-
They still can.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
they totally will but then they'll just be proving my argument about labels to be true
Koi-
They probably weren't against that point anyway.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
none of my points should be controversial here i'm pro-diversity pro-individuality anti-censorship
but pro-individuality is a point they will be against because i would be talking about how being seen as "jewish" should come way after being seen as "kirara" so the argument is that the demographics they love so much is dehumanizing us
八十八
37 hours of work to do in three days no weekend no bus trip home no birthday no benzos no fun no life no hope
fish bought me these socks thinking they would make nice socks for professional stuff but they turned out to be super high she thought they were below-knee they're pretty comfy though They're Turkish cotton
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Kneesocks kaishite
those give a good zettai ryoki
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
there are like five pairs of them with different colors
Koi-
>>75671 ...Well, good luck reaching them from the RR, I guess.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>75675 All of my arguments are for everyone, not just the SJWs. The SJWs are just the ones that would attack me for being white.
Conservatives watch Rubin Report, and they need to figure out the important of diversity and they can benefit from learning about the mental health crisis that censorship is causing. Moderates need to learn about that, too.
Diversity is not a strenght, but neither is it a weakness.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
REAL diversity is very much a strength.
If you have ten people solving a problem, and all of them have had the same or similar life experiences, the potential solutions you can come up with are reduced.
>>75680 Whenever I talk about diversity, it's diversity of thought.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Well diversity of thought et al but the "diversity is our strenght" usually means "we need to be less white"
diverse thought comes from being less white >>75676 One thing I've noticed is that you can deliver the right message to the wrong audience and it becomes the wrong message. So good luck all the same.
Herald 2
All rise for the Queen of Moe, the Illustrious Rika Schadenfurude II, whom you may affectionately refer as Yuu.
>>75682 >diverse thought comes from being less white To a degree, yes. But if you say that, you're saying something stupid that nobody will ever listen to.
Presently, the argument presented is that minorities have fewer opportunities, and we need to make sure we have diversity so that they get their chance to shine, too. That's a stupid argument even if it's true. There is resistance because the argument is bad.
Yuu
>>75689 It's okay, I pardon you. It's just your nature not to rise for your queen, as the court tsundere.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Your yuuness, if you would stop imagining cheering masses and actually attend the state of your realm and see how decadent and in ruins it is. No one even stood for you they actually, those who were standing, went to find a seat when they heard your heralds Your ratings are bad, and I fear the high nobles plot to dethrone you and name a new monarch and the peasants wish to overthrow all nobility.
>>75698 Then you /// What are you saying here? Who do you feel is making the message to the wrong audience?
>>75699 I didn't! I wouldn't stand for the likes of you.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Your royal bulliness, while you tease the court jester, your royal guard is brewing with mutiny, as they haven't been paid for months now.
Queen Yuu
I wouldn't stand for the likes of you, b-baka
Koi-
>>75700 I don't know the entirety of your message. And I won't begin to think of the numerous ways it can be extrapolated. You should be more familiar with presenting and delivering arguments/ideas than me, I don't write long papers. But you should know that any part of what you say can be used to justify action and inaction. If you were to criticize SJWs, it would probably be better to deliver that directly to them, rather than through the conservative grapevine.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>75702 You haven't given me a good reason to stand!
Queen Yuu
>>75704 I-it's not like I have a reason to stand or anything...
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
what the HELL is happening
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>75706 We are now in the court of Queen Rika, the sovereign of the land of Doushio, in her royal palace in the capital city of Moetown and the queen is harassing her favourite vassal while ignoring her Realm
>>75703 I wouldn't be criticizing just SJWs and I wouldn't directly go after them. I want to talk about general trends that both the left and right are doing.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Well if rika is the monarch what are the other moe's in the court then?
Queen Yuu
>>75717 I'm always excited to see my friends at /moe/.
>>75717 If you do get there, talk about how both left and right are doing their "purity purges" like what was that woman who said "she isn't against abortion" and bam thrown out like a wet rag
Queen Yuu
Also, with respect to the conversation I accidentally ran over with my amazingly vibrant personality, my submission is this:
I don't really know if diversity is strength, but I do know that strength is strength and it speaks for itself.
If something is really strong, it will produce unquestionable results.
>>75728 Yeah, they're kind of girly. They're comfy, though. And it's not like anyone will see much of them if I actually do wear them ever. The heat is probably a problem, wearing high socks like that in the heat probably sucks.
It was a good interview, too. I think it'll be good.
Queen Yuu
They're definitely girl socks, but don't let that stop you. But yeah, socks that stop above the knee are very warm. They'd be good in the winter here.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
It would be rude to decline them anyway
Queen Yuu
That's true.
I worked my butt off and will probably be called in tomorrow. I'm in a good mood anyway though.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Wow, you're going to work on the weekend. You're almost as dead as me.
八十八
i have to work a 24 hour weekend then 12 hours monday and training on my birthday if i don't stab myself in the throat before then
Queen Yuu
Can't be helped. You gotta do what you gotta do.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
i can't work more than like 10 hours in a day
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWEQueen Yuu
Even if you're cute, you lose all of your value if you decide to dress like a thug. Never forget that.
>make a phone call before dinner >hey let me call you back in 19 10* >ok >30 minutes later no return call >can't make dinner because they'll call in the middle of it
Queen Yuu
This is a random thought, but the latest Gundam did not focus enough on the pilots. Hayate was extremely weak as a pilot character. I hope the next Gundam has some good hot blooded piloting.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
who is hayate
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
The Combat Butler
Queen Yuu
Yeah, that's a problem. The pilots need to be so cool you can't stand it.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
No, what I mean is, there's no character in IBO named Hayate.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
nor names that sound like hayate There are barely any Japanese names
Queen Yuu
Oh sorry I made an airheaded mistake. I meant Macross.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Oh yeah
Well, Macross doesn't have hotblooded pilots. Macross is EXPLICITLY about NOT being hotblooded. Macross is a story about pacifists before anything else.
Queen Yuu
IBO actually did have cool hot blooded pilots. Delta needed some characers like IBO had.
Queen Yuu
Rick Hunter could be cool and hot blooded sometimes. Alto could be cool too.
>>75752 Is Rick what he is called in Robotech? Robotech has a different story and different characterization.
Hikaru can go hard but above all, he becomes a pacifist and does not want to fight.
Queen Yuu
>>75755 >>75757 You can be hot blooded and still be a pacifist!
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Even Alto is a pacifist eventually
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
you can't have hotblooded robot fights if you're a pacifist unless you're Nekki Basara
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
can you?
Anno
/flex
Queen Yuu
Sometimes you just have to fight!
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>75761 Nope The message behind every single Macross series has been that you never actually have to fight and that everything can be resolved without fighting
>>75765 it's really nice i just downloaded an episode of anime in 13 seconds i'll never delay anime again >>75767 i can stream 4K content to my TV other than that, there are 3 PCs, 2 PS4s, a wii U, switch, PS3, and 5 phones on this network so i'm sure it will get some use
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>75766 Yeaah but you don't actually do jackshit with that high speeds about 200 for single person is where it usually caps with most people or rather most sources that send you data
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>75766 Yeah now we are talking I estimate that a single device uses about 50Mb/s in current usage, though that will go up once 5G becomes a commodity and 4k resolutions replace 1080s
>>75769 You don't know anything about Macross! You probably didn't even understand half of Macross Delta since you didn't watch 7. And in 2018 when the next Macross comes out, you probably won't understand that either!
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Oh right I still havn't watched delta
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
I do agree that Hayate isn't very good though We need more characters like Nekki Basara
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>>/watch?v=-8vXhrsZFAY basara only uses a weapon like twice in the entire show and it's because he was tricked into it he gets really mad about it
he fires speaker pods into enemy fighters and forces them to listen to his song
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
7 just has that jarring VA vs SingerA
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I wonder does May'n really return for the next macross would be cool if she does
Anno
>>75768 Yeah I think I'll have trouble ever maxing my bandwidth now
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>75776 more over the useless symmetrical upload I mean it is nice but... what do you do with it
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I think best you can get here atm is something like 500/200 or 500/50 or 500/100 or even 500/500 for something like 50 a month maybe 60
Armored unit refers to a unit that wears heavy armor, has restricted movement distance, and high defense.
>>75799 I have level 40 Sheena and level 22 Draug.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Which means they most likely were mounted soldiers, thus having bigger mobility than basic infantry
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
they were not mounted soldiers no
Koi-
No. Mounted units are Cavalry. Armored units wear armor. Everyone else is just 'lol who takes damage'
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>75803 I am not even playing the game and I am going REEEEEEEEE
Queen Yuu
>>75805 You should take some autism pills and just relax. Armored units are the units wearing heavy armor. They have less mobility and different weaknesses than other units.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
No I will keep my military and war history autism going on rather
Koi-
war history autism doesn't save armored units from Bolganone melting them from the inside of their suits.
If magic exists, none of our war history would apply
Koi-
Well, that's FE for you.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
It is actually a good question how would medieval war, reneissance war, gunpoweder era war, napoleonic war and so on be if magic is around.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
well none of that would have happened probably the world would be completely different from the very beginning
Koi-
Guns would probably still get made as magic is usually something that is either a) innate ability, talent to channel b) requires education to use properly where gunpowder merely needs to cut through skin.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
magic no doubt is for the special elite even if everyone could learn it and do it
so guns would still become a thing, as they are easy to train as weapons and their shock value is super high
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Now here is a quick note, after armies began to use gunpowder more than steel weapons causalties from combat dropped like hell
of course casualties during rout and such still were high, but actual combat deaths were quite low. People were quite bad at shooting other people to death from distance, when they actually had to aim Arrows afterall, in mass volleys, were most of the time indirect fire and you didn't have to think "right this guy dies"
and melee combat is always "this guy dies or I die"
Queen Yuu
>>75807 Yes, you're being autistic and complaining about word choice. Plenty of combatants participated in old timey warfare without wearing big suits of metal.
Koi-
Magic is a very delicate thing though. Everything that happened in GW2 that had serious consequence can be summed up with "A mesmer did it." Yeah, there's guns. Yeah, there's explosion magic. But MESMERS ruin EVERYTHING You don't need to break down a wall if you can get one Mesmer inside and just have them use Portal Exeunt
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>75817 Yeah knights and rich had the better armour but soldiers still had armour that would at the very least protect them from arrows and chain mail wasn't that expensive to get to your troops And I think in a game like that, we aren't talking about levies and conscripts but professional soldiers
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>75818 What about necromancers they had superbly OP skills in GW1
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
to be honest they're mostly just random people that can fight and wear armor and join with you most of the time or random low-rank soldiers that you like and you're like hey come on
Koi-
>>75820 OH that's the other half. The first great antagonizing evil was Zhaitan, the Elder Dragon of Death. GW1 had the city of Orr sunk into the ocean by the Vizier Khilbron guy.
In GW2, Zhaitan woke up, pushed Orr BACK TO THE SURFACE, and then rose pretty much everyone there back to do his will. However, his most important minions on his side were mesmers. They could sneak around, act like they belong in the war unit, pass information, and cast large illusion spells that would fuck everything up.
One of the biggest fuck ups caused was when they were stopping a huge advance of the Risen with lots of bombs and other weapons and after all the smoke cleared, they found out that it was actually one of their own large units. They killed their own squad (which ends up giving Zhaitan MORE bodies to raise and when you're under his control, he learns everything they learn).
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Like I didn't know how to die as a necromancer unless a Mesmer casted that "takes damage when casting a spell" thing on me Fucking Necromancers are immortal
Queen Yuu
>>75819 And in fire emblem, "armored" describes heavily armored units. Everyone wears varying degrees of armor depending on their class/job/role.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>75824 Okay you missed the point of initial autism
Heavily armoured units, because they were slow usually were mounted and the mounts themselves had fuckng chainmail on them
So yeah Armoured units, you could call them but they were in the end just shock cavalry wery heavy and shocky cavalry at that but shock cavalry nonetheless
You didn't really have foot soldiers dressed in so heavy armour that they couldn't move proper much less actually anyone dressed in armour that would make their marching speed super slow.
Queen Yuu
>>75825 Fire Emblem has both mounted and unmounted variants of armored units.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Like take Age of Empires 2 with the teutons those guys were mounted always unless the situation called to be unmounted or the mount died they weren't super slow fuckers
Queen Yuu
So you're telling me that never, in the history of people everywhere, did anyone wear heavy armor without riding a horse?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>75828 Yes because people tended to want to live and being able to RUN away was a good part of that
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
and also the people who fought on foot were the POOR they either couldn't afford heavy armour or weren't provided such
the people who could afford heavy armour could also afford a bloody horse too or were provided one at that.
Queen Yuu
A dubious claim.
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
I'll mesmer you
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>Out of sync: Couldn't copy file into place.
>sam shows up >can no longer post images what did you doooooooo
Koi-
There
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
not agaaaain
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>75831 well refute me then >>75822 is gw2 fun and is it still alive and how much can you solo in it?
Koi-
FE
Koi-
this is really not conducive to how I post.
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
Uh oh!
Queen Yuu
That's odd, when I refreshed it changed my theme to gar! gar is a really nice theme though
>>75840 Well to do pikemen often wore heavy armor and didn't ride horses.
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
gar is the new default
Koi-
but FE has people on horseback who also wear armor. Actually I can't think of someone on horse that doesn't wear armor. Some are more armor-y than others though.
>>75840 >Gw2 >fun sometimes >alive very >soloable can't solo dungeons can't solo most fractals can't solo raids base game is soloable ...soloing Heart of Thorns is possible but incredibly annoying and you should probably find a friend anyway.
>>75851 >>75853 >It was not uncommon for aggressive pike formations to be composed of dismounted men-at-arms, as at the Battle of Sempach (1386), where the dismounted Austrian vanguard, using their lances as pikes, had some initial success against their predominantly halberd-equipped Swiss adversaries. Dismounted Italian men-at-arms also used the same method to defeat the Swiss at the Battle of Arbedo (1422). Equally, well-armored Scottish nobles (accompanied even by King James IV) were recorded as forming the leading ranks of Scottish pike blocks at the Battle of Flodden, incidentally rendering the whole formation resistant to English archery.
>>75860 do you think knights defending a castle were riding horses on the walls?
Queen Yuu
>>75861 My criteria to meet was heavily armored, on foot. I did that!
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
man it becomes a habbit to toss an image and then begin writing >>75863 I did say "when situation calls so, they would fight without a horse" etc
Queen Yuu
>>75865 and in fire emblem the armored units are fighting without horses!
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
They fought the battle on foot yes but say the enemy routs they would call "hey square bring me my horse, I wish to mow down my enemy" and then the guy would once again be a horseman
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
or squire?
Queen Yuu
Fire Emblem has defensive battles and battles in castles and forts and whatnot too. You can't just categorically call it bad because you disagree with the notion of armored people on foot (even though there are plenty of examples of it happening in history)
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
So
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>75869 You see the point here would be if you had an armoured cavalry unit fighting to defend a castle of course their horses would be in the stable and they would fight unmounted or for that matter, you would have the option to mount/unmount the cavalry at will
But I guess limitations of game and whatnot
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
not sure what's wrong hold butts
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
I
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
okay then
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Noise
Koi-
first
Queen Yuu
We're back!
>>75877 It's done this a few times before and usually sorted itself out.
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
How mysterious. it's not like there was no hard drive space.. i should add more logging
Koi-
truly
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
indubitably
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
i bet it was the RUSSIANS
maybe someone tagged it in a tweet with 50 @'s
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
the code doesn't run on tweets!
yet!
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
I don't remember this happening in the history of ever. He's being a cheating prick and I hate it
i'll just have to play all the games i already have
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jokes on me i'm actually just going to play dota sometimes and mostly just work a lot april fools on me i guess
Yuu
dota sounds worse than working
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i enjoy teamwork
Anno
I enjoy blowing people up.
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i actually enjoy my job quite a bit i just wish i didn't have to spend so much time there
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i think if i only had to work 30 hours a week i would be at peak happiness but i need to work 40-50 if i want to make the money i need to be stable
Anno
Shame forty-hour work weeks are the accepted norm for Western society, eh.
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i'm gonna ask for 38k and settle for 35ish i hope
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L O W E R M I D D L E C L A S S
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i want to make a living wage
Yuu【=◈︿◈=】
one day, if i'm lucky, an attractive mate will decide to settle for me if my wages are high enough just kidding if i'm lucky i die this week
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actually i need to live until at least april 24th
Anno
Twenty-four days isn't too long.
Anno
I'm jus waiting until Halo 6
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>Yunyun apologists
sk
What's wrong with Yunyun, other than not being Megumin?
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well for starters, she's a loser
sk
Yeah but because of Megumin though Remove Megumin and there's no problem with Yunyun
sk
I mean she's not great But she's not bad
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remove megumeme and yunyun doesn't relevant
sk
You don't know that for sure, maybe Yunyun wouuld be the one adventuring if there was no Megumin
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doubt megumeme's big meme is that she can make explosion like no one else
sk
Which is why I'm saying Yunyun is bad only in comparison
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yunyun wouldn't have come through when megumaster did
sk
They'd probably come up with plans not involving 3 million spike damage
sk
Man, there are a lot of people on youtube whose entire channels revolve on going "these 2 or 3 people are dumb" like over and over again They're all super tiny, obviously, but I'm impressed with the dedication
Kevin Logan's got maybe like 2-5K subs, or something like that I think, and he's still at it making "the descent of the man-o-sphere" and videos about how SEXIST AND RACIST Sargon is
It's like that time Thunderf00t made a ton of videos about Anita, except these guys ONLY do that
Impressive
Yuu
Anyone not retarded would not have ended up in KAzama's group. The defining traits of megumi and darkness was that nobody else wanted them.
sk
Darkness isn't retarded though, just uncomfortably M
Anno
Nothing uncomfortable about it.
sk
a lot uncomfortable about it
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no she's definitely more trouble than she's worth i think
Yuu
>>76097 Darkness literally can't hit anything with her sword.
sk
Darkness is like the only one of them I'd have in a party if I made one myself >>76101 So she doesn't have a lot of dex, big deal
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aqua is actually the most useful party member if not tied with kazama
sk
Darkness can tank SO MUCH damage though And you never have to worry about her not wanting to
sk
Granted she's not great at the tank role either
Yuu
She's exactly the same as Megumi. She does one thing extremely well and is completely incapable at everything else.
sk
Yeah but the thing is a tank being extremely well at just tanking is something you could build a party around You can't do that with a single spike of damage each day You can make something work with an over-eager tank who's bad at DMG You can't get anything going that's efficient with a SINGLE SPIKE each day Granted it will completely obliterate whatever you spike, but you only get to do it on one thing
That's why they're leveling so slow
Yuu
It's a fact that no one else wanted Darkness because she is retarded. She's as incomplete an adventurer as Megumi is.
Bang is right when he says that Aqua is actually the best all round in the group.
sk
Aqua is only arguably best because she's got ress
Anno
I think Kazama is a little more versatile. But Aqua does what she does a bit better because her stats are literally god-like.
Yuu
>>76111 Kazama is versatile becauase he is intelligent and because he's selected a bunch of various skills to make up for the failings of the rest of his group. His stats and overall ability are low compared to everyone else.
>>76110 Aqua has very high stats and has both healing power and offensive capability. She can also take a bit of a beating, which she does on various occasions. Her only real failing is that she's stupid.
Anno
His class is also the one designed to be the most versatile. The Adventurer class is supposed to be jack-of-all-trades.
sk
She's really, really stupid though And super annoying I don't care about her stats, having her around would be awful
Yuu
They'd all be dead without Aqua. Every demon general they've beaten has been killed by Aqua.
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kazama would be super-dead
sk
Well obviously if they're the only options you have to go with all 3 But giving other options, I think Darkness would still be valuable, and Aqua wouldn't
Yuu
Aqua is literally their most valuable member. She's the only healer and has the best offensive capabilities.
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aqua is actually best girl
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season 2 confirmed this
Anno
>>76124 On the other hand, she's also a beacon for anything undead to come swarming to them.
>>76128 In -For the most part that IS because of her personality though. And doesn't really speak to her actual capabilities.
sk
She's the cause of like 90% of the problems they ever face
sk
THE DIRECT CAUSE
Yuu
>>76127 She can deal with the undead effortlessly though.
At least half of the problems they dealt with last season were due to the trouble Kazama got into with the city for destroying half of it.
sk
>>76127 It doesn't matter what part of her it is If you're gonna pick her "oh because she's the best" you're also gonna get WAY more problems in general because she's THE MAIN CAUSE OF PROBLEMS
Anno
>>76130 But Kazama wasn't the one that destroyed the city, Aqua washed it away with her water magic and made Kazama take the fall for it because he was the party leader.
Yuu
>>76133 It was all part of his crazy plan, though. And if you really want to trace the whole incident back to the root cause, it happened because Megumi nuked the headless horseman's castle every day at the crack of dawn.
sk
>>76130 Again yeah, Kazama doesn't have the ability to destroy the city >>76134 HIS CRAZY PLAN INVOLVED WATER, NOT A FUCKING SIN FLOOD ALA THE OLD TESTAMENT REEEEEEEEE
sk
Ok yeah, the fight with the boss was Megumin's fault But the city being destroyed could have still been avoided if Aqua wasn't a shit >>76137 also this, yes Fighting the boss was inevitable
Anno
They would have had to off the Dullahan eventually anyway. I mean Kazama's whole mission is to kill the Maou. You can't get to the last boss without beating his midbosses!
sk
Oh, darkness did cause the ostrich hell, I guess But she was also the only one who suffered for it at all So I dunno if it counts
Anno
Yeah but she can't help her ROCK HARD ABS.
sk
Like if you cause a problem, but it's ONLY a problem for you, I don't think it should count
Anno
Or maybe the hardest thing the ostriches were attracted to was how hard of an M she was.
sk
Maybe they were attracted to Aqua Because she's so fucking DENSE
Yuu
I think Kazama causes as much trouble as Aqua.
Both Kazama and Aqua are vital party members though. Aqua is the only mechanism they have for defeating demon lords. Kazama is the only one of them with a brain.
Anno
>>76143 But to be fair she's also in a party with Megumin and Darkness. Them all combined is kind of like a super-dense black hole.
sk
how old is Megumin anyway
Anno
She's in her late teens int -in the original-original material. But once it became an LN I think they dropped everyone's ages down by a few years. So she's more like mid-teens.
Anno
Kazama was originally supposed to be an early-twenties post-highschool NEET. But the LN had him toned down to a highschool NEET.
sk
>highschool neet
sk
wait no nevermind that was literally me
Anno
Fine, highschool-AGED NEET. If you really want to be so persnickety about it.
sk
No I just got the different stages of school mixed up
Anno
Oh yeah you Europeans have a weird schooling system.
sk
We have 1st to 10th grade, and then you can go on, and also there's Uni after that if you wanna
Anno
Yeah, sounds similar to the Austrian system, which a friend of mine explained to me in the past.
Yeah, I don't really like the wallpaper aspect of gar. Fortunately it's easy to change back.
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hey kannagi i was just wanting to ask you a question because i was watching a video about illegal raves in the UK
sk
Wait In isaac, there's an item it is Guppy's head, right? But on death, you leave all your stuff to your cat, Guppy
Kannagi
Yes, clearly I am the person to talk to about illegal social activities. I go outside sometimes, I even sometimes talk to the the cashier at the shops!
Ask away!
Anno
Maybe you're an anti-social wannabe-NEET by day, rogue partying socialite by night! A secret double life!
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Well I guess that kidn of answers it I was gonna ask if you'd ever been to one or heard about them going on
Anno
>>76188 It's also a video game that is excessively silly for the most of it.
Kannagi
I don't even know what an illegal rave is, like a rave that is basically just a riot or something? lol a riot
sk
Fuck my MPC can't into subtitles anymore I guess I'll have to reinstall it again, cause I've no idea how to troubleshoot this
Yuu
Maybe it's a rave without the proper permits. In the US thy have them out in the desert and in abandoned buildings and stuff.
sk
>>76194 Probably a rave not hosted with authorization Like a barn rave or something, often has a lot of drugs being sold openly
Kannagi
Maybe those people are raving mad the parties must be a riot.
heh
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yeah basically they're a rebellion to the "sanitized" night culture i think they're just rebelling against hte authorities as is british tradition
sk
Yeah brits once rebelled so hard they formed their own country and became the dominant super power of the world
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well the whole meme throughout most of britain's history is govt vs. people
Kannagi
I think other countries do that "meme" a lot better. We haven't genocided our own citizens yet!
sk
Yeah remember France? France did that shit hardcore
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>>76208 maybe i got it the wrong way around it's more like people vs. govt
Kannagi
So many amusing april fools. A little disappointed with the Type Moon one this year.
but still going to try out the servant pokemon go style app
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oh i forgot about that part of april fools it's always just been an excuse for me to make lame jokes
Kannagi
It is what I do every year. I either try to capture everything I can or I play all the games It is generally a lot of fun.
Japan does it really well.
Marsh-chan
You're a fool.
Yuu
Japanese are a bit better at April Fools, I think. Western April fools stuff tends to just be stupid.
Kannagi
Western April Fools focuses on being aggravating to be honest. Like pranks and making people fall for shit by making them angry
Anno
Those costumes on the Chimame trio are really good.
Season three never ;_;
Kannagi
I cheated the online gacha thing on the site and modified the url to get the wallpapers
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/a/ is scary i like going there less and less as it gets scarier
but i can't tell if it's because i'm becoming less okay with them or if they're getting any worse
Kannagi
>/a/ scary
Yuu
/a/ is scary! To think that so many newfags and redditors could be tolerated in a place.
Though to be fair I just use /a/ for the most part only for manga dumps and news and information collection. It's exceedingly rare I actually participate in any actual discussion.
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Threads on the front page:
Kannagi
>>76266 This! There are so many terrible existences on /a/ >>76272 loliposting is basically a meme since it got banned and relegated to /b/
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actually i take it back /a/ is kind of okay right now the loli and the creepy are at a minimum
Anno
I have noticed some pretty aggressive loliposting on /a/ recently. There's this one entity on the board that takes any thread they don't like as an opportunity to spam uncensored lolicon shit. They mostly stick to stuff about people having social lives, like this one thread that talked about anime people like to watch with their significant other. Which sure doesn't exactly have the most relevancy to /a/. But the outright vitriol from that one entity was fucking obnoxious.
>>76286 I haven't even seen a single episode of it. But the music is really, really good.
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>>76287 how big is the room? that matters a lot i think you could easily find one at target or best buy for under 150 but if your idea of a big room is the same as mine, then it could be different you can get one for 40 that will be more than loud enough for a bedroom or even apartment living room you can get one for maybe 70ish that will be good for like a vaulted ceiling living room at least 20 feet hmmm i probably could have a cheaper simpler solution for you without the use of bluetooth or with a slightly different set-up
Kannagi
>>76282 I know that they are annoying to get to sync. My mom has one that is pretty loud to be honest. It can easily be audible in a large room,
Yuu
>>76289 I'd want people at least 20 feet away to be able to hear it pretty well.
I didn't really want to spend more than 40 or 45 dollars.
>>76290 Yeah, bluetooth is pretty annoying like that.
It is super loud. you put the volume up so high that you can hear it pretty far. >>76298 The usual market bullshit that retarded business think actually works.
Anno
>Like a sugarplum fairy taking to the skies to sprinkle sweet and happy thoughts below, the Sugarplum UE ROLL 2 makes dreams come true everywhere it goes. Make your own dreams come true and grab one today. Available here and from musical apothecaries everywhere. The fuck is this description.
If I lived on my own I'd probably look into a bluetooth speaker of some kind. It would be nice to be able to weeb out without needed to have headphones on all the time.
Kannagi
UE does other speakers though, not sure which ones are the best for your purposes Rika only know the one my mom owns.
>>76301 Why bluetooth? Just get proper speakers or really really long headphones. I like having headphones. They meek my hears * ears warm // I fucked up this whole sentence. They keep my ears warm too
Marsh-chan
>>76298 Surely fairies have soft and dainty voices This is not a good way to advertise sound quality
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for maximum budget, i'd suggest running a power chord to normal speakers but here are the suggestions for battery-powered speakers i've found http://www.brandsmartusa.com/product/207804/product.htm?gclid=CLePlMjxgtMCFVU7gQodJMsISg https://jet.com/product/detail/4655700fb6e541439c8c4ab9dc02851f?jcmp=pla:ggl:NJ_dur_Gen_Electronics_a2:Electronics_Portable_Audio_Portable_Speakers_a2:na:PLA_785706710_43734990209_pla-291752806529:na:na:na:2&code=PLA15 http://www.techrabbit.com/ion-isp43-party-on-wireless-bluetooth-speaker.html?sku=ION-IPA18D-A1&condition=270&source=301000100
Anno
>>76302 If I'm at my desk, I'd prefer headphones. Mostly in part because I've used them so long it's just what I want. But like, being able to grab something I can sit down in the kitchen or bathroom or etc. temporarily would be kind of nice.
Kannagi
I have headphone cord so long I can go to the kitchen or bathroom with them. not that I generally need too!
Yuu
I just use headphones at home. I prefer headphones.
I need the speaker to play audio files for something for work. Well maybe not need. But it's a solution I'm considering to the problem.
Kannagi
>>76307 Showing your fellow workers the wonders of anime?
Anno
>>76306 I don't think I'd bring headphones into the washroom. When I'm in the washroom I generally don't like bringing anything I don't need into it.
Yuu
>>76308 haha, no. I'm helping with a presentation kinda thing because I'm the only person at work who can even remotely into computers. Everyone is so terrible at computers.
Marsh-chan
>>76305 I've got this thing for my car that lets me plug my phone into the tape deck.
..The latest in sound technology!
Kannagi
>>76310 It is strange that there are so many people who just suck at computers.
When I have to do a much *bunch of accounting/records work some of the files I work with are photographs of spreadsheets on a computer screen. It is dumbfounding. >>76314 But even people of my generation and under are atrocious with technology
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the links i posted are for really good deals on two products i've had experience with and one i don't
Anno
>>76312 I think the generation of people that are currently mid-late-twenties is the last generation that grew up not really learning how to live around computers.
>>76312 Hm, maybe I'm not that in touch with the younger kids then. My sister is nine years younger than me and she's definitely fluent in computer usability. Sure, she couldn't tell you what's going on when a n action is being taken, but she can move around a computer with ease. Which is the first step to being able to do anything on a computer.
Yuu
>>76313 Oh, I didn't notice the link. I'll take a look.
>>76312 Yeah, it is really bad. I had to show someone how to increase their system volume today. Sometimes I feel like a tech person even though that is not my job at all.
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oh well now that i've read what the situation is the 40 dollar portable monitor speaker might be overkill but damn if it isn't a purpose built sound blaster
Kannagi
When you work with people you really start seeing how most people are just retarded with computers. I guess that is why hotlines for technical help ask stupid questions like "is it plugged in?" and "turn it off and on again"
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i could probably get certified and do some kind of technical work really easily but that's not how i intend to carve my path to the top of the mountain
Anno
>>76317 Hotlines also have a routine course of action they're supposed to follow when you call them.
And to be fair, turning stuff off and on does really work for a LOT of problems people experience with computers.
Kannagi
There was a study a while ago that but most of developed countries citizens really poor at using computers. which one of the reason they do that routine course of action.
Because the average person is generally not very capable at using a computer.
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>>76317 even people who are very well-versed in these things can make stupid mistakes like that though
Marsh-chan
>>76319 Yeah but the point is that you shouldn't need a hotline to tell you that.
Anno
>>76322 Why not? For someone who's not familiar with how computers work, is turning something off and on really an intuitive process for fixing it? If your television is getting nothing but static, is turning it off and on a viable process for fixing that? If your grill is out of gas, does closing the gas valve and opening it again fix the problem? These things are not intuitive for the common person; that has nothing to do with them being retarded or not.
>>76323 but it;s still the sort of thing that a person only needs to be told once, and then it's universally applicable for the rest of their career
Anno
Perhaps, but computer problems come in myriad shapes and forms. And while the off-on solution may work for a lot of them, the fact that one problem is different from the other doesn't help the average user in concluding that turning it off and on will fix this new, unfamiliar problem.
Kannagi
>>76324 The end line being: >keep it extremely simple, or two thirds of the population can’t use your design. which is why helplines are designed in an annoying way for people who have better knowledge and skills.
Kannagi
On/Off is generally a shit solution though. It doesn't solve the problem and just puts it off until it happens again but people won't call the helpdesk to solve it because they will just assume it won't be fixed and just put off.
I see a lot of people who lose so much efficiency and work because they can't get help they need or IT support is super delayed or doesn't happen.
Anno
Yeah it's pretty much just a bandage fix. But in the end the machine is likely to just be replaced within a seven-year timespan so companies that provide helpdesk services aren't really inspired to provide long-term, more complicated services.
Yuu
My computer at work wouldn't turn on a few days ago. In the end it was because it had too much stuff plugged into it for the power supply to handle.
Kannagi
>seven-year time span HAHAHAH That is a great joke.
I worked at one of the /// the largest bank in the UK and it was still using computers from centuries ago. companies work off the maxim: if it ain't completely broke don't fix it.
I had to use windows 98 on a number of occasions
Marsh-chan
>>76330 Did you solve it yourself or did you need outside help?
Anno
>>76331 I think that actually really depends on the institution.
Also banks are also a special situation because they often rely on data-processing services that are EXTREMELY archaic and redundant, but they can't upgrade because there is just way too much data on the service to switch over.
Firefox is being a shit I dunno what's causing crashes, hoping I can fix it
Though the idea of starting a completely fresh profile again is tempting for its own sake
Kannagi
>>76333 I like the dramatic pause they as you figure out how to spell archaic
Yuu
>>76332 I solved it myself. There is no outside help!
Kannagi
>>76333 Trust me they can update it they just don't want to. They can easily update everything, in fact they could do it quickly too but they just don't want to put any money into it
Anno
>>76336 Other way around, I was trying to remember the second word after archaic, but couldn't remember the word I wanted to use. So I just went for redundant because I already had the "and" there.
>>76338 Ah hah hah hah no. I worked for a bank that was trying to upgrade to a new service. My whole job was amalgamating profiles of customer information into the new format that was to be used for it. Even with some automation, the process would have taken our team of ten-odd people YEARS to process all the pre-existing customer information, never mind all the new stuff that would be coming in.
『sk』
OK I may have identified the issue The problem with it is that when it happens, I can't even kill the firefox process
Kannagi
>>76339 I got automation and new system databases put in place, it is simple if you plan it out and get things rolled out effectively. The data we have is stored in very universal formats and is easy to migrate, we had most of the UK on our systems too.
>>76391 Have you seen the trailers. It is a slaughter of GiTS The writing for it is just disgustingly bad.
Anno
If you're not going to watch it, how do you know the writing is disgustingly bad?
Kannagi
>>76393 How many times in the trailers did she go "I still have my ghost, my ghost in the shell" like please stop using the shows title!
The reviews are out now so you can see how bad it is. They changed her named to Mira too because Makoto is too hard
Anno
Wouldn't know! Only seen the teaser trailer which showed nothing, hah hah.
Anno
>>76394 >They changed her named to Mira too because Makoto is too hard I'll be honest I really don't care about that at all. It's such a silly detail to fight and die over.
I don't really have any intention of going out to watch the movie --Mostly because I have yet to watch -anything- Ghost in the Shell-related yet. But I think it's a bit over the top to just go out and say aspects of it that you haven't actually observed properly are bad is a --. Whoops I lost track in the middle of that sentence. I think that's a bit unfair.
Marsh-chan
>>76396 changing the name is indicative of other changes they may have made though.
Kannagi
I don't like hollywood all that much. from what I have seen that is meant to "sell" the movie to me it looks hollow and using typical hollywood tropes. They are boring.
Anno
>>76397 And change is bad? Should they have embarked on making this a live-action carbon copy of the original story?
sk
>>76394 That line doesn't even make any fucking sense, what the hell That's not what that is
Marsh-chan
>>76399 There's a difference between adaptation and dumbing down.
But I'm not taking a stand. I haven't even seen the full trailer.
sk
Unless her ghost literally is operating a fucking shell interface Or it's IN AN ACTUAL SHELL
Kannagi
Support it or not I don't particularly care. but it is to me unpleasant. I quite like GiTS and to see it being twisted to fit hollywood's set way to making movies is kind of off-putting.
I wasn't unset about the name change I just find it amusing because I literally cannot see how Makoto to Mira makes any difference at all literally none.
Anno
>>76401 Sure, I'll agree with that. But I don't think changing the name from Makoto to Mira--or pretty much any kind of name change, really, is dumbing down. Unless the names carry particularly meaning, a name is just a name.
Marsh-chan
I mean.. she is white and Makoto sounds pretty Japanese
sk
Yeah but also her body is custom made anyway
Kannagi
She is a full body cyborg so she can look any nationality.
Anno
Yeah, the creator of Ghost in the Shell came out and said he's fine with the use of Johansson as Makoto/Mira.
sk
And seeing as she doesn't look PARTICULARLY japanes in the anime, I assume it's fine
Kannagi
Americans love to talk about the white-washing over how shit the script is. There are still a lot of reviews talking about how hollow the script is too.
I am not too bothered by white-washing, its not the reason I don't like it.
Marsh-chan
>>76408 He probably got payed enough to not give a fuck if the franchise is dragged through the mud or not
sk
I don't care too much about this kinda stuff I think it'd be neat if t- Hold on my torrents are being meme
Anno
>>76411 I mean I have no manner of proving or disproving that's how he feels about it. But I would like to believe that for the most part, money does not drive people that already have an established success.
Kannagi
It isn't an end of a discussion to bring in the original creators opinions in to it.
but in any case I don't me minds about white-washing for the reasons said above about makoto and also because he is Japanese and the Japanese have never really cared for that sort of thing at all.
The most you hear compliants from are asian-american actors.
>>76385 Soo gits was it good, nope was it bad, not really The plot was quite generic in terms of Hollywood writing cyberpunk: Evil Big Corporation Does Evil Big Corporation Stuff and there is a terrorist who is actually kinda a good guy because was wronged by the Evil Big Corp Acting wasn't that bad either and they actually threw a plot reason within the movie why Major is now white and all dat shit Some action scenes were quite good and gotta say the cyborg effects, both practical and cgi were pretty much the best you can get ANd set pieces, man, I enjoyed more just watching the city and the settign they brought to life rather than what the characters and plto was doing.
Speaking of characters, the director of the section 9 for somereason spoke JAPANESE ONLY like everyone else spoke english, but this guy spoke japanese to everyone. It was a jarring idiocy if you ask me.
Would I recommend watching it, maybe? would I recommend paying for it, no Also the 3D was just gimmicks, water and shit flying at you, never really utilised properly.
Ah, I don't want to clean! I want to lazy around doing nothing
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
MC is actually Mokoto whateever family name, but was brainwiped when they kidnapped her and made into a cyborg That was bit weird plot line and do wnder did it exist in the movie always or was the script rewritten at some point [spoiler/] Also the ending was kinda...
Also the endingwas kinda... lame There was no big climax ot antyhing, just one robot tank and they took it down and the movie just went "oh its over, time to wrap this around in a way that could spark sequels" >>76440 Yeah, half the time i had to suppress a laugh and half the time I had to suppress a groan from cringe especially when the "My ghost" shit was tossed... Also, they barely used the "mind hacking" "cyborgisation" "enhancing" "what is human" themes at all It was really dumbed down version of gits Plot was, like I said, typical hollywood cyberpunk, which means quite boring and bland
But atleast they had good camerawork, and stunning set pieces And lots of scarlet johanson being in cyborgbody suit running around all dat joint porn
Kannagi
I didn't like what I saw of the writing and dialogue in the trailers.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Also I kinda felt like a chunk of the movie had been cut away the pacing just sometimes felt weird especially towards the end of the movie.
Most movies end up with a lot on the cutting room floor, after all.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
YEah but this had a feeling like... Well let's take Return of the King as example if they jumped from aragorn releasing the army of the dead to straight to marching to the Black Gate You could piece out what happened, but at the same time you were "isn't there a scene missing here or something"
Marsh-chan
That's what the fucking 1800 word essay I wrote today was about how editing changes a work
Anno
Changes is a bit of a weird word choice for me in that situation. I think personally I would have said it shapes the work. After all a lot of work would not be the quality it is in the finished product without editing. A situation where a piece of media is complete pre-editing is a miraculous rarity.
Marsh-chan
That's basically what I said.
Anno
Oh cool. I like when I'm on the same page as other people.
Kannagi
I'm gonna clear up my room a bit and then get some alcohol! >>76450 I'd rather not think of things in terms of potatos value of worth
Marsh-chan
Being on the same wavelength as me is a rare privilege. Cherish this moment.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Not even hangover! but drinking didn't cure my flue it seems
Marsh-chan
>in the time it took T.S Eliot to edit this manuscript he could have shifted 43 pallets of potato sacks
Anno
Every creative writing class I've taken has had a moment where it's brought up that editing is the vast majority of time spent creating writing.
Anno
This is even kind of relevant to the Kono Suba talk from earlier. Of how the ages of the characters got shifted down a few years after it transitioned from web novel to LN. Apparently a lot of Japanese novels that get serialized that way go through heavy editing from the web novel format into LNs.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Why would they make the characters younger?
Anno
Probably because that's the preferred age-group for readers of LNs. Kazama was in his super-late teens/early-twenties in the original piece, and Megumin was late-teens. They both got shifted down a few years so that Kazama was a highschool-aged NEET.
Marsh-chan
There's a lot of cash in the pedo market
『sk』
also the story focuses on a group of 1 dude and 3 girls, one of which doesn't wear pantsu so >>76457 is pretty much right
Anno
There was also a side-by-side comparison of a web novel and LN adaptation I saw a while back too. And y'know. People like to shit on LNs for having poor writing (with good merit for doing so), but... Yeesh. If the quality of writing of the web novel can be extrapolated for other pre-editing LN scripts. The editing works miracles on the original script.
>>76458 Even in the LNs, Aqua wears pantsu like any normal person would. Blue shimapan, even. >>76460 What can you expect, it's Aqua, man.
But the commando aspect is something that got thrown in solely in the anime...for whatever reason.
『sk』
ew
Anno
Also sure she looks like a high school girl but Aqua is a goddess. Either way that's not really pedophilia anymore.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
It's not a loli, it is a 1000 year old goddess
Anno
Who looks like she's more seventeen or so years of age.
『sk』
Well they're not lolis to begin with Even Megumin isn't a loli
Anno
She's cutting it pretty close though. Like even age wise she's not far from the field where it applies.
『sk』
Not really She's just flat
Anno
She doesn't really have much in the department of post-puberty physical aspects. Which is the key flag in pedophiliac attraction.
『sk』
She's still way too tall to be a loli
Kannagi
>>76454 That is super common. Lots of web novels don't have editors or editors are personal friends not professionals. When they move to LNs or even move to become webnovels under a publisher they get professional editors.
Anno
Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at >>76459 here. You can really see the sheer effort that has gone into the editing process of the serialized work, even if the end product still isn't amazing.
『sk』
>show up at a rally in some weird costume with a sign that has the antifa flag >get into conversation with someone >can't answer any questions about what you're really there for The stuff you see on youtube
Anno
What are we all really here for.
Anno
>>76471 I dunno man I don't see it on YouTube because I'm not some fucking loser that goes and watches inane shit like that.
Anonymous
Good morning moe. It is I, Puff. Or Floop2. Whichever you prefer.
『sk』
Ploof
Anno
How about Alex. I like Alex.
Kannagi
Become namefag Ploof
Anonymous
>>76476 I've also been called Alex before. By like one person. Still, that works fine.
The guy is there to make the speakers "as uncomfortable as they think their hatespeech is", but he's not sure what they've said that he considers hatespeech >>76480 Ah
>Champion surfer Kelly Slater said he "ate crap" during a serious wipe-out shortly before being eliminated from the World Surf League Margaret River Pro by Australian surfer Jack Freestone. This is our National news.
Kannagi
Time to leave the house. I keep delaying it. See you in a bit moe
Marsh-chan
DON'T DO IT KANNGERS It's scary out there
『sk』
I have to leave the house too, today
Ploof
Heh. I made myself laugh. I forgot that I put Anonymous in the name field, so when I went to put the name on, it was there staring at me. Also an ex called me Alex. Fug that name.
I hate april 1st nothing can be taken with any level of seriousness because everyone's trying to do a meme
Anonymous
I forgot it was April 1st.
TN
Havn~t done an a-f in a while Used to be a good prankster i did
ToN
You know, poof is really close to being "floop" backwards. Thats funny
『sk』
That's the point
ToN
Oh there was a yugioh video advertising a new card and I was like oh that's cool I should check that out
and then I remembered what day it was and got really disappointed
Anonymous
>>76516 Yeah people were saying I should be "Ploof." Which is just Floop backwards. Then I guess they were making a fart joke when they told me to erase the l from it. I feel so bullied.
『sk』
I still prefer ploof
ToN
>>76519 well now I feel stupid for making an observation that everyone else knew about whoops
Anonymous
>>76521 It's okay ToN. At least you didn't put it as your name! Like me.
Anno
poof is slang for a gay guy
Kannagi
I have returned!
Anno
Ploof isn't even Floop backwards Surely you're trying to trick me or something In which case good work you really fooled me
Kannagi
Pomf!
『sk』
nyanner go home
『sk』
ree
Kannagi
It should really be "Lolicon go home" to be exact, ree
It isn't floop backwards but ploof sounds better than poolf
『sk』
it was just supposed to be a similar sound using the same letters
Kannagi
Poof is just calling you a poofter which is means your gay
Ploof
Okay I guess I can be Ploof. I don't think Kirara will stop calling me Puff though. Not that I'd particularly want him to, anyway.
『sk』
that's OK we still call Rika Rika
Ploof
Rika is Yuu right? For a while I was really confused about who that was referring to. Thankfully my powers of deduction are at least semi-okay! I'm only semi-incompetent! Put that in red.
『sk』
rika is yuu
『sk』
and blue is koi
Anno
I suppose this would've been already brought up if it's happening to someone else, but is anybody getting gar as the default theme It's set to moe but it''s the gar theme
Kannagi
Rika and nearly everyone has name changes. >>76539 No? It must be a problem on your end try turning your computer off and on. >>76541 Stop telling lies. it must be his windows system32 folder
『sk』
>>76539 No It is the gar theme, but it's called moe still
I saw it when I made a new firefox profile
Kannagi
its an Aprils Fool Just click moe as the theme again and refresh at least that put it back to normal for me
『sk』
I just assumed it was an error and didn't think about it beyond that I use ashita anyway
Anno
oh I thought it was just bad programming haha
Ploof
All these other themes feel weird.
Kannagi
Wow I am surrounded by bakas
Ploof
>>76546 wow rude I was just checking out the other themes because I hadn't! Mine's just set to moe.
『sk』
I literally only saw it at all because I was having computer issues that caused me to make a new firefox profile If that hadn't happened today specifically, I'd never see it
Kannagi
The themes are pretty old, I remember when moe was so into MAWARU by the way floop TRY typing WWWWWWWWWW into moe♥
Man it is fun to pick up on foreshadowings and foretellings of things to come when rereading wot
『sk』
Is it normal to feel uncomfortable somehow when buying items that obviously go together at the same time? Like if you buy dipmix, chip and sourcream together I dunno why, but it makes me a little uncomfortable
『sk』
I think I fixed the I\O thing I think that was the space allocation having issues
『sk』
Every now and then it is crashing explorer, though Which is annoying but fine since this is the only torrent that has done this
Kannagi
You need to reboot your gui interface via visual basics
Kannagi
Oh wow. 4chan combined boards. MLP and POL is fairly amusing
Anno
Yeah, looks like they combined the anime and manga boards.