>>528093 yeah except I'm the one getting ages wrong
Anno
rip there goes half of my soup onto my bedsheets
月
oh no that's very unfortunate
Anno
I'm very clumsy not in a moe way just a dumb idiot way
Maria
>>528099 I hate this I've spilt so much stuff on this chair
Anno
Look after yourself because nobody else will.
月
i'll look after you
Anno
Universe what is my future #8ball (100%) fuck no wtf
Maria
it's telling you to give it your all
Anno
you gotta ganbatte give it your best
Anno
The chances of me perishing within the next 30 days are #8ball (agreedo) Finally the solitude I needed
Anno
#imfey (sproink) and I can't get up
Anno
Sproink is what Enchantress says the fuck is this
月
sopping
Anno
I thought fey was a FE thing
Anno
If over 15 I die If under 15 I suffer forever #d20 (10) Yes, like how it was always meant to be
Anno
TFW Far Cry 5 ending is actual real life we get rocked as a species
Anno
I've been watching captain d all damn day
Anno
Everything is a game and sometimes there are some lucky ones
Anno
I just can't help but deal justice to these online shitters Can't you? I fucking love getting them all banned
sk
konichiwan
Kirara 🚗
My dreams were unkind last night.
Anno
They never are,, really Mine are just glimpses of the dark abyss that will swallow all of existence What is important is what you learn from them And how you choose to carry them throughout the day The abyss doesn't always stick with me Neither will your negative points
sk
what kinda drems
sk
last dream I rememeber, I smashed my phone and couldn't afford a new one
Kirara 🚗
I dreamed I was being gaslighted and harassed and followed by friends. Then, I dreamed that some people and I were investigating a house where screams were heard, and there were mutilated bodies everywhere, on the floor, hanging from the walls, etc. We found the killer sawing a young woman in half, but he had accomplices that killed the two people with me, and then I was tortured to death.
sk
The house of 1000 corpses!
Kirara 🚗sk
Most of the time I don't really remember my dreams more than like 15 minutes after I wake up I remember a few dreams I've had but not a lot of them
Anno
That's such a horrifying nightmare Something that I can sort of Know really But Don't let it stick with you We're in reality now. Reassure yourself, the nightmares have the ability to ruin your day to day life But you shouldn't allow that You have to find peace somehow By letting go of the past or another way I can't think of
Kirara 🚗
I remember most of mine.
sk
alternatively hyperfocus on the beautfy in some of them
Anno
Nah I had plenty of nightmares about the apocalypse and locusts, etc. biblical stuff I realize what they were But I can't put it on a pedestal Or try to examine it It's just pure evil in every sense You just have to learn how to fight against it
Kirara 🚗
thinking about them is actually the most effective way to deal with them, according to the literature on nightmares
Anno
I can think about them, renumerate on them and examine them But I can never tell every detail Every single thing I've seen and experienced It's just A fucking cruelty that shoudl only be mine And nobody elses
sk
Is nightmares sticking with people throughout the day a common thing?
Anno
Oh holy fuck. Be glad you've experienced the mercy of never being to the mightmare frontier
I had a lucid dream once but it was a nightmare It gets really shitty when you realise it's just a nightmare but you can't wake up
Anno
Well I felt Freddy Krueger stab his blades into my forehead The cold feelings of the blade thrusting in and the searing pain of bleeding All that shit yup Anyway how is your morning
Maria
What does the brain do if you get stabbed in a dream like that if you haven't been stabbed in real life? How does it approximate the feeling?
Anno
It just falls down and decides to die When I was stabbed in the head it felt like water rushing out I couldn't realise it was blood or I was about to die I just fell down and it all turned to nothing That might be how death is. Fuck that shit then
Kirara 🚗sk
>>528140 Is this a review of one of Peterson's lectures?
Kirara 🚗
it's from a Baudrillard essay on simulacra and simulations from the 80s haha
>>528138 wouldn't that depend on where you get stabbed in the brain? Like, you'd feel (or lack feeling) certain things, depending on the area that got cut through.
Kirara 🚗
>>528148 it's honestly not a very valuable read although it is a good read
Anno
It just feels like it's being ripped apart every millisecond. But you can't wake up It ends when it will
Kirara 🚗Maria
>>528149 I dunno does it? Does the brain simulate the pain it'd experience from a certain part being cut?
>>528151 I thought people were supposed to immediately wake up after dying in a dream
Kirara 🚗
it's useless to try to understand dreams everyone has a different experience with them and will tell you something different about them the literature says nothing substantial about it
Maria
do your clients ever ask you to interpret their dreams
Kirara 🚗
yes, but i don't
Maria
>>528156 this is exactly the response I expected to be honest
Kirara 🚗
i think dreams can only be interpreted by the dreamer
sk
slay the spire before you unlock stuff is hell Just construct a deck to win the game but all you get is 1 energy attacks for less than 20 damage each and sub10 blocks for 1 energy each
Kirara 🚗sk
Why the fuck is this fuckin' yoghurt made in Greece? It's just CALLED greek yoghurt it doesn't need to be made in a different country and then transported here, that's just waste for LITERALLY NO REASON
Maria
>>528160 >how did I get here >>528161 They went out of their way to do their Greek yoghurt authentically and you have the GALL to complain It says Greek yoghurt on the box so by God you're getting Greek yoghurt
sk
Authenticity is a lie anyway The company is Norwegian
Kirara 🚗
authenticity is the important thing the inauthentic life is not worth living revolution 🏴
Maria
The fake can improve on the real
sk
Honestly I would prefer they made it here and just said they made it in Greece
For that matter, it's made in a factory likely not significantly different from the one I work in It's not like it's "respecting and following the traditions" or some other wonky horseshit, it's just made in a big drum and plopped into small containers for sale Advertising is a giant sham and this no less
Kirara 🚗
>>528168 living in accordance with your values which you discover and assign yourself rather than living according to external pressures from others and blindly following the meaning they have assigned to your world
sk
That's a different meaning of authenticity though, than one that can be applied to commodities This yoghurt isn't expected to live up to its own values as a person
Maria
>>528170 What if I've decided to place value on doing bad things >>528174 but what if I didn't value that either >>528175 Slay them all The women and the young lings too
Kirara 🚗
>>528171 if that yoghurt does not follow its heart, it is worthless to meeeee
sk
>>528172 Then you should self crit because you wanna be a better person Really there's no prescription
I mean I guess I'm some sort of pseudo-egoist since I think things will work out for the best if we all actually work towards our own benefit I'm not concerned with people who "just want to be bad people" They're few and can be crushed
Kirara 🚗
people are naturally motivated to do good towards their fellows, evolutionarily people who want to do the opposite are rarely living authentic lives and are usually hiding from the freedom authenticity demands because it spurs such neurotic anxiety - the anxiety that resists change, be it positive or negative
sk
Besides that though, my struggle is wound up in yours etc. etc.
Kirara 🚗
beyond good and evil is a pretty good book
sk
I thought you were about to recommed a video game outta nowhere
Kirara 🚗
haha no i have heard good things about that game though ive never played it bgae is a Nietzsche book
Kirara 🚗
my cat is so smart when i say ow, he immediately stops hurting me
my cat is so good with his claws he has never accidentally cut me while playing or anything and never digs his claws into my skin unless im wearing thick clothes and he misjudges the thickness right now he's chewing on my foot though
>>528183 there is a lot to read im reading like 200 pages of scientific literature every week rn plus some philosophical stuff plus some psych/philo stuff
sk
deepcomrade once answered something like "violence" when asked what alternative there is to morality, and he never specified what the hell he meant by that I think it was likely some author but I dunno whom
>>528187 sitting down to read an individual article which is 10-20 pages doesn't take long so i can do that many times throughout the week if i have to reading books is the hard part
sk
I spend more time thinking about how I should be reading than I do read
Kirara 🚗
i gotta read to prepare for my dissertation, so articles are a must and i accidentally misled someone to think i had read a book i hadn't read and i didn't correct them quickly enough so now i gotta read the book before they want to talk about it
sk
I guess it does help the motivation to have your choice limited
Kirara 🚗
>>528191 also my dissertation stuff is something im passionate about which helps
sk
That helps too
Kirara 🚗
im also working on the methodology for my study so that's like putting a puzzle together which i like
reading Nietzsche is the hardest part of all my weekly reading existential folks are easier to read than like, kant or hume or hegel or any of those pretentious dicks but still hard
sk
I'm soon halfway through Walden Two So far I don't really have any criticism of the system proposed beyond "I don't really see why you'd have these managers be some clandestine, self-selecting authority"
Kirara 🚗
some of the systems proposed in it are outdated the book was written before the science described in the book was established Skinner's later book beyond dignity and freedom is an updated version of the system or contains it i think he keeps the managers and everything though
sk
Well of course some of it will be outdated, but the system proposed doesn't have hard rules on how exactly to do things If it's outdated and false, it just won't be done
sk
Like I'm sure there are better ways to raise kids not to be super easily frustrated than to deny them soup, but it's not really worth getting bent outta shape over cause it's the kind of thing that would be changed if it didn't work
Kirara 🚗
well, that's one of the best ways haha but i don't think denying people food is good especially during childhood the book was written before we understood child development and nutritional requirements, though
sk
I don't understand child development enough to have a take on it, is the thing I can just see the intent of it, and considering how vague all of this has been thus far, I just have to assume the method they use for determining their actions is open to change if it turns out something is actually Not That Good
Kirara 🚗
ahh my cat is biting the SHIT out of my foot he's not penetrating the skin, just pinching it ahhhhh
>>528200 yeah, it's a variable system but the book was written by its proponent and doesn't self-crit at all so gotta think about limitations and difficulties it might encounter establishing such a commune would have been much simpler in the 40s
sk
And it's not like they're denied food, they're just not fed immediately and have to wait like 5 minutes before they eat Considering the wider society they find themselves in, that's a MASSIVE step up in terms of quality of life for all children from current society
sk
>>528201 Yeah, but I think I gotta finish the book for that For right now I don't even know what it means to pass policy within this society I don't actually know what that MEANS
Kirara 🚗
oh yeah, definitely
what do you think of the writing? skinner is pretty easy to read, right?
sk
It's been really good actually I didn't expect it to be this easy to keep reading Skinner
Kirara 🚗
i love how he establishes his design philosophies through narrative, but you don't have to parse anything out of it it's simple and efficient writing that's easy to read and understand
sk
I do feel like I'm gonna hit a wall of pure ideology whenever I get to the part where the actual mechanisms of the 'government' is described and problems are just handwaved like "we're raised to x so nobody would y even if they could!"
Kirara 🚗
it's honestly vague about the internal mechanisms in the narrative from what i remember the book mostly focuses on the superficial aspects of the society and how behaviorism did it mostly because the science wasn't established yet
sk
I figured as much honestly It's about organization of atomized parts of society, not society as a whole, in truth Here's how we manage work Here's how we manage education Here's how we manage children etc.
Kirara 🚗
there's a scene in the second half where they are drinking tea and they've got these weird glasses to drink them out of idk why but that scene really stuck with me even though i think it's basically meaningless
sk
Oh yeah, the sorta pouches they carry the glasses in and stuff
There also seems to be a sort of weird disconnect in the book like "Not even the most dedicated industrialist could do the thing we're doing here" it spouts out, and then just leaves it at that Like waddaya mean? Why? The why is the important part, Skinner, you bastard
Kirara 🚗
yeah it's fucking weird like i get it but glass?? use ceramic or something you weirdos
sk
I will say though, the society presented thus far could easily be tweaked a little bit and it'd be Bread Two Like there's an extremely clear current of anarchist ideas flowing through it, even if Skinner clearly wasn't one
Kirara 🚗
yeah, there are /// well, it could easily be adapted into a true horizontal design
sk
Like people already have so much free time, why would they need dedicated labor credits and other junk, it's just so unnecessary The whole thing seems to already effectively operate on an honor system anyway
Kirara 🚗
labor credits are based on the behavioral concept of a token economy which is often used to change behavior in kids or well, they're the same concept
but also a product of Skinner not being a leftist
sk
Oh yeah I had that as a kid I just ignored it though
sk
It's not even that I'm so much opposed to the credits, I just think they're so unnecessary and extra Like why bother with all this accounting and book keeping when people would still, you know, not let their own community, in which they spend SO MUCH TIME, fall apart
Kirara 🚗
they are probably vestigial parts of the society that skinner thought would be necessary during the initial creation of the commune, or it may be there to help newcomers integrate more comfortably
sk
Oh, that's actually not a bad idea It's familiar to new people, but after a while it'll probably be effectively ignored since you end up doing stuff anyway in the course of a year
sk
Either that or he literally just read Marx and these are labor notes But they're not actually, labor notes are actually worse than these lol
Since labor notes maintain everything as commodities to be bought and sold, albeit without the accumulation of currency anywhere
Kirara 🚗
it's weird that the book was successfully published in 1948 although i guess the red scare wasn't really big until the 50s
sk
It's cryptocommunism lol
sk
So crypto even the author didn't realize
Kirara 🚗
also skinner did design walden two but he also designed some of the earliest "smart" missiles to use on nazi and IJN ships although his idea was mocked and he was laughed out of the meeting with generals, or so the story goes
sk
Skinner was a hell of a multitalent
Kirara 🚗
his idea was to train pigeons to press buttons in response to specific ship shapes so a missile would fly over an enemy ship and the pigeons would see it, start pressing the button, and the missile would change its altitude to target the enemy
sk
He was gonna put pigeons in the rockets?
sk
That is ridiculously hardcore
Kirara 🚗
yeah haha but the military thought it was stupid
Kirara 🚗
and yet they were willing to try bat bombs
sk
I mean I'm not convinced it'd actually work either But it's so cool it's a crime not to try it
Kirara 🚗
it probably would have worked with the proper design and would have been more effective than the missiles of the time but it wouldn't have been cost efficient to build the rockets when they already had missiles on mass production
sk
They should have just paid Tesla for his death beam
sk
Besides, how are you gonna conveyor belt the training of pigeons? I mean you can, but it's gonna take some new construction and stuff We made the training of kids into a factory operation, we could do it with pigeons too
Kirara 🚗
Tesla's death ray was actually more of a railgun anyway
>>528235 you'd have to have behaviorists doing the training nonstop
Kirara 🚗
you can teach behavioral skills quickly though
sk
Naw, just like any other production, you don't need anyone to actually know fully what is being done I have no idea how to operate more than like, a few buttons at work, and neither does anyone else We just know different buttons None of us had any hand in getting to the recipe we use or nothing, everything's top down
sk
You basically just need to find the most effective method of getting a pigeon to do the thing you want, and then you hire people you tell to do exactly that procedure If something goes wrong or the pigeon doesn't respond, just put it somewhere >>528240 You could even name it something fancy, after the designer or something
Kirara 🚗
you could probably construct a box that would train the pigeons and the only thing workers would need to do is feed them and stuff
sk
Yeah, basically though that's my idea It takes some doing and investment though
Kirara 🚗
Skinner hated the term skinner box he called them operant conditioning chambers
sk
Skinner seems like he was a cool dude tbh
Kirara 🚗
he was probably not fun to be around, though he was super serious like all the time
sk
Serious about science tho
Kirara 🚗
kind of he didn't accept cognitive science he completely denied the entire subject of cognitive science Chomsky and Skinner fought about it for like 50 years
sk
What the heck is cognitive science anyway?
sk
Dude it keeps like, jolting me how old Chomsky actually is
Kirara 🚗
the study of the mind and processes related to the mind
sk
Yeah but like, why would he reject that?
Kirara 🚗
skinner rejected the idea of the mind he thought that all that mattered was environment and learned behavior
sk
Were we all philosophical zombies to Skinner?
Kirara 🚗
>>528252 just machines designed to respond to environmental stimuli and learn responses to those stimuli
sk
That seems like such a strange thing to believe I mean, we are machines but we're not perfect
Kirara 🚗
skinner didn't really agree he thought everything was superficial only external stimuli mattered
Kirara 🚗
he was called a radical behaviorist for a reason
sk
Very strange beliefs Seem a bit simplistic
Oh shit I found the image of the thing I talked about
Kirara 🚗
that's weird
and yeah, skinner thinks it was all very simple
Chomsky and he fought over language for fucking decades
sk
gang weed rise up
sk
Philosophical debates, but as like heated arguments is a fun aesthetic "This IDIOT thinks language has inherent meaning or a correct form!"
Anno
the eternal flame war
Kirara 🚗
>>528260 literally publishing books at eacg other lol
sk
rappers already do that so it's actually not that strange now that I think about it Well, Drake decided not to apparently
Not that I have listened to more than one Drake song in my life, I just know cause some of the people I follow care about whatever Drake's genre is Sappy rap?
Kirara 🚗
idk anything about drake
Kirara 🚗
other than the discourse
sk
I know he started at the bottom, but now he's wherever he is That's really the only information I have on him that I know comes from his own music
But by way of reading the discourse and memes, I have been given the impression he makes very emotional music, at least from time to time
Anno
he used to call me on my cellphone
sk
But like Taylor Swift emotional, not De La Rocha emotional
TN
moar lundia get soon i can build a house of pure lundia ahahahshahahahahahahaha
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528257 kinda funny how it is "mask - nuhuh" "sword - meh"
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
though ofc, someone masking their face is most likely up to something no good, so... there is that but I wouldn't really charge anything out of it at most a slap in the wrist fine
im fine with body positivity if you look like that and are happy with it, more power to you i don't mind seeing it
but why put it in a fitness magazine? this clearly isn't fitness
sk
I AM EXTREMELY PROUD OF MY PLUS SIZE WIFE
sk
Arguably, the best place for it is in a fitness magazine
Kirara 🚗
well, it says her holiday health isn't our business which is true, it's not if the article is about not telling fat people they need to be skinny, that would make sense, but idk because the tweet doesn't say anything about what it's about
FormerRei@mobile
It would be if we had socialized health care.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528272 Yeah there is one thing to be body positive and don't mind people fucking their own health up and one thing to advertise "this is healthy" Imagine if "alcoholism positive" was a thing...
Kirara 🚗
well, idk if that article is saying it's healthy, but yeah, in general, we shouldn't say unhealthy stuff is healthy
>>528276 wouldn't be my business even if im helping pay for their medical bills
sk
>>528275 But my point is that if it's body positive or whatever term is correct, then the best place for it is exactly in the magazines which function is propaganda in the opposite. There's little gain in preaching to the choir
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528278 bit overreaction from me, yeah, but atleast the general message in those kind of articles is not just "don't judge people's lifestyle" but also "this isn't unhealthy and obesity isn't a 'disease'" do they use the word disease for it? Or some other word
sk
It's obviously a very strange business decision But it's a good decision
Anno
Some times I think my cat snores so loudly that it half-wakes herself up.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Me, I'd allow people to do anything they want, but with clauses attached kind of like "warranty - void if seal is broken" "healthcare - void if you fuck yourself too much despite clear warnings"
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528282 people wake up due to their own snoring, why wouldn't animals?
>>528285 Is not that I worry, is just how I'd build a welfare system if a guy is treated fifth time for alcohol poisoning, and has been given all resources to get better and lead a better lifestyle, is it at that point the society's and by proxy the tax payers duty to keep this guy and his unhealthy lifestyle alive?
Kirara 🚗
if we had socialized health care, i would spend less money on other people's health needs than i do now lmao
sk
There's no reason to put restrictions on it If someone keeps getting fucked up, they have other problems and need help regardless They just also need help with the cause
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528290 the point / my point is that, well finnish society already gives you all the cards you need to ditch an unhealthy lifestyle, ofc it means selling your pride and other social pressure things but the point is, that despite helping hands, forced help at some point and all that, you still keep fucking yourself up, despite given ample opportunities to fix your life At that point I think the guy just doesn't want to do it, so why not let his lifestyle kill him slowly?
sk
Then something remains wrong And needs to be fixed
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Ofc the problem would be the potential for abusing it >this guy clearly doesn't want to get fixed so let him die t. people wanting to get rid of someone or to save money
sk
Though I don't believe in 'bad people'
FormerRei@mobile
What about Stalin?
sk
trash theory
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528294 Neither do I, but this is kind of like keeping a guy whoc onstantly tries to suicide alive at some point you have to ask, "wouldn't it be better for them too, to just let them do it"
sk
Well you should be allowed to log out if you really wanna, I think
Kirara 🚗
i believe in personal autonomy
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
biggest problems in finnish society, in terms of catching the people who are falling or have fallen outside of society and can't get back, is the attitude "dirty hobo" "damn alcoholic" social pressure from having to admit being 100% dependant on wellfare system and so on Especially for men, atleast finnish men, it is easier to get swallowed up in the despair and bad lifestyles, than admit having fucked up beyond your ability to fix it
>>528300 also what manga is this from, this isn't senryu
FormerRei@mobile
>>528301 You trying to summon blue with that koisheep?
sk
I just like that sheep
FormerRei@mobile
Wakaranai
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
sheep taste good
sk
🤔
sk
TPUSA is an unending source of accidental humor
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528307 Way to turn an actual thing into something that seems tinfoil hat meme that looks like a bad cosplay of the philosoraptor
sk
I'm not so sure it's an actual thing to begin with Last time I saw it end up with some traction, I read the paper which was supposedly 'discriminated against', and it was the worst thing I've read in my life >>528311 I mean the most likely option is that conservatives ideologically reject the basic realities of those courses, and so struggle with them
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528310 In some classes it is, but most likely those classes are already the type you wouldn't see conservatives traditionally even take
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528310 or they go "this is bullshit and walk out and get a bad grade" and thus they get worse grades doesn't though change the fact that good chunk of US university lecturers are very left aligned
sk
Also a possibility I mean it's not untrue they get lower grades in a lot of subjects, if memory serves me
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
And that, especially in political and such humane courses spills over But does it mean they ACTIVELY give worse grades or just the ideological clash between conservatist minded, or non-leftist aligned or just "I don't really want to have modern poltiics in this subject attached to it" and the teacher
sk
>>528312 They're liberal, sure, but 'liberal' in the US is the democratic party for the most part And uh, they're right wing
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528315 I think in this case they mean the "this is a safe space for us, bring some muscle here and throw this guy out" type the fringe radicals like professor bikelock
sk
That's like, a really small subsection of the staff though Like I have severe doubts that large parts of the state or private sectors have a significant amount of communists in positions to indoctrinate children, especially considering the whole point of the position is to indoctrinate them with the values of the state or private actor
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
It is I bet most of the staff is just traditional liberals as in "that sounds nice and all, so let's do some sort of compromise" you know the people who generally agree that "okay that is a bad policy" when it is blatantly a bad policy or "that is indeed a human right" when conforted with it but don't really actively campaign for anything and what ends up, is the loud voiced, cosntantly nagging fringe people, get their will through as these people don't really care about these issues, so to have least amount of inconveinence for them, they - to a certain extent - let the fringers do as they please
sk
In any case, thinking private institutions discriminate against conservatives is the height of ridiculousness That's their boys
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528317 The more well funded, the less ideological it tends to be as they kinda don't want troublemakers and boot the mout and you are judged more on your ability than anything else
poorer regions or public funded tend to be the ones with radicalised staff radicalising students
sk
>>528320 You can never escape the ideological The lukewarm 'just dont bother me' liberals are ideologically motivated, too
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528321 OFCnot but in general when you really are expected to put out top level research and produce top level graduates to top level jobs you don't want troublemakers
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
But anyhow a philosoraptor like pic >>528307 most definitely isn't the right way to try tog et people to support you seriously about an issue, be it real or perceived this seems like a what is that air company moon posts pics of at times with their animal puns that but for political stuff
sk
Eh, TPUSA is an astroturf movement anyway, it's not supposed to actually be popular or anything
The whole thing just exists to appear to be supported by the students in various colleges and stuff It's libertarian stuff, well funded, so it can just pump out propaganda and do some minor activism
Unfortunately for them, 'activism' doesn't actually exist for the right wing beyond like, stuff wider society generally disagrees with on an instinctual level
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I think with social media, internet and such astroturfing doesn't really work the same way it might have in the past unless you do it with paid twitterers
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Problem with conservatist parties, is that for every 1 decent guy, you then have 9 guys who want to remove some very basic right that either just passed or has been in place for 10-20 years, but still is so basic human right it shouldexist or they want to ban something like sunday drinking or whatever problem with market liberals is that for every 1 decent guy, you have 9 guys who want to slcie and dice your country up and sell it tot he highest bidder problem with centrist parties, is that they always are crooks problem with social democrats, is that atleast in terms of finland, they don't really have any goals anymore anything a social democrat might want already exists and only problem is keepign the system running efficiently and beyond that, the basic is "socialism with state intact"
sk
It works well enough that TPUSA gets people to do stuff for them for free lol
Mostly their shit amounts to just holding posters like "BIG GOVERNMENT SUCC" They're doofuses
sk
The problem with anarchists is for every anarchist there's like 15 cops
sk
>>528328 Do ya even have a commie party? Like a real one, not a shitty ML circlejerk
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
beyond that is, as in beyond that in the left wing
We have a leninist one >>528335 not in parliament, but I think they have held few council etc seats in some regions Left Alliance is something like a what is that "anarchist left" in that old 4 square thing you know nazi/commie/libertarian thing
sk
Any in parliament?
sk
Are your parties equally vague about what they wanna get done? Cause ours is like "here's stuff we like but no explicit platform or steps"
Or do you mean in the comp- Oh yeah Yeah anarchists were the ones who originally called themselves libertarians, but then the right wing decided "hey, this is 100% contrary to literally every single value we hold, but let's call ourselves libertarians to own the commies"
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
just libertarian left? weird anyhow they kinda jump between anarchism "less state more rights, but wellfare society on some level" to "we need BIGGER government" to "we are all sjws, bring more immigrants" to something completely different, to outright "kill the boushies, revolution now, GLORIOUS SOVIET UNION" it is a weird mix of people and then there is green party, which is generally "less government, more rights, and green things good" but they also attract lot of the weird type of those activists like "shut down all nuclear power and fossil fuels" to "let's chain ourselves to ice breakers that are going to go help make sure there aren't any oil spills in the arctic"
sk
Big Tent Communism Gulags and autonomous zones
sk
Dude Green parties are globally fuckign WEIRD I don't even have anything against them, they're just fucking wildcards Like "NO MORE CARS IN OSLO" Like the BALLS on these guys to just put that forward as their platform
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528341 The capital region is like 40% green party, and they want to ban all cars in the capital and by proxy the country I f you love the fucking green, why do you live in the CITY CENTRE? weird how all green voters and supporters are urban people always
sk
Apparently the people in Oslo are down with it, too It's just the bourg who hate it cause it means they can't do as much business
sk
>>528342 Dude moving out of the city and to some "natural" location is mad expensive Like insanely
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
In terms of actually using our nature reservations and services, the green party member is most likely to answer in a poll "never have used them"
sk
getting a job at all is hard enough if you're not gonna move out of the most dense job center in the nation too
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Is just funny, when as the green party does have strong say on what goes in the capital region that ends up with people, who don't have driver's license and never have driven a car deciding how to best operate the busiest streets in our country you can guess how well that ends up at times
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
A simple fucking thing called "non moving car" is the worst polluting thing as it is completely wasting fuel at that moment also the sheer amount of logistical driving you need to do in the capital region to keep it running... if you make the capital region even shittier to drive in, the capital region will just halt that will be good for everyone, especially the greens wanting to drink their lattes
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Is not like the party isn't good and there aren't very good politicians in it and that they havn't done good things but at times they oppose things, like nuclear power, just because they can and their whole "we need to make the urban green" policy is just so retarded you can't make our urban regions greener, without actually starting to tear down buildings and turning them into parks
meanwhile, the non-urban green areas WOULD need a lot of that green defender attitude to stay healthy at times atleast us finns know we can't abuse our country short term, as that will fuck us over permanently we are quite good at this whole renewable resource thing
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
And that is the other thing we are less than 6 million people in acountry nearly size of germany and almost as rich in resources can't have that many mORE people, without having to completely reform how our society and economy is built
sk
I mean that \\\ it helps to be able to be renewable It's not like Finland and Norway have huge interests in destroying our own environment in the short term or long term, if you ignore the obvious like, oil thing
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
WE are top bio-fuel producer in europe, but greens want to ban all burning things despite bio-fuel being pretty much best thing after nuclear power in terms of moving away from fossil fuels
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>528351 and even norway does it wisely at the sea
sk
We do it more than what's really necessary, though, regardless If it wasn't such a large economic factor, we could easily reduce our carbon footprint by a lot
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Yup I think after france, finland is the cleanest country in europe in terms of power production france wins with their nuclear plants we come second with our hydro, nuclear and then biofuel advancements hydro is 100% maxed out though
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
and we are only country in europe that is building Moar nuclear
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
But in short, I generally don't have anything against the green party as a whole, I just hate the individual busybodies that make up most of it, or atleast its loudest parts, that want to just make people's livelihoods harder as for most left parties here, since about 10 years ago they havn't really done anything, but bitch at people No good policy or policy suggestion has come out of them. And that is for a good reason, atleast in terms of the SDP, since they really have nothing to reach for anymore, their ideal society has atleast in terms of structure and legislation been built any more socialism and you end up with less democracy
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
or you end up harming the market part of our nation, that actually build s the wealth our wellfare society then spreads around Afterall, the head honchoes of the party are painfully aware of the reality of the situation, this thing doesn't fund itself We don't have the oil of norway or anything like that it is funded by the people for the people and you can extract only so much tax money out of the people and the entities they work for, before it hurts them.
Also, they are way too attached to the various worker unions, which has become recently an issue for passing much needed reforms
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Though, the reforms current centrist-capitalist government is trying to push aren't that good, but atleast A PART fo them could be allowed to pass just to see if they do anything 3 cabinets have TRIED to get these reforms in one form another through and it isn't going to pass through this one either
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
One of those situations, where I wish the president still had more power, andn ot just influence
Anno
Got called in for an interview for a job posting I applied for like an hour and forty-five minutes before it's set to start. Had to shower and shave in a rush, hah hah.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
They still had the thing going on and that rushed interview? Kinda weird
Anno
Well I don't wholly blame them. I probably sounded enthusiastic and it's not like a normal
Anno
person to still be in bed and as scruffy as I was at noon.
Anno
Also they probably testing my response time or something. It's not as if two hours is too much time to get there.
>>528366 Eh, it wasn't a demand, I could have said no. Considered it, since I might be
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Yeah, but what will they do if you actually are busy or are in other employment at the moment
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Well I once had a phone interview + invite to interview on the same afternoon while either still drunk or hangover, of which I have no memory of,e xcept I know I answered the phone and jotted down time and place
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
and got the job
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
but 2 hours to pop up to an interview is quite extreme in my opinion, unless they know you can make it there, ie. the location is near enough
月
frontier
Anno
the job I'm doing now I pulled out an old paper map out of desperation because I had no other way to find it I was about to give up looking when I saw the interview place I had to get changed in the car park because I was that rushed
Anno
>>528369 They have my address through my resume, so they could have punched it in to Google Maps or something.
Anno
It's just a grocery retail job, but it's honestly in a decent place. Easy to get to and near what's pretty much my last chance of a full-time university program come autumn. And really I just need a job.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
hope you get it
AnnoFormerRei@mobile
I've Ohiod again.
Anno
Well as I somewhat suspected, it was more of an informal interview. They pretty much just wanted to know if I could work the hours. It is deli work, which is a little eehhhhhhhh though.
月
i would be afraid to use the slicers i would probably accidentally slice my hand meat into tiny slivers and serve it to the customer by accident
Anno
I'm certainly anxious about it too. And I'm dreading having to wear a hairnet again. I was hoping it was going to be cashier or aisle work but RIP.
Maybe the bookstore I applied for might yet call for me.
Kirara 🚗
i misspelled clonazepam as glonazepam in this report and idk but it send me off the deep end laughing
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
glowing nazapam
Anno
>10 I get rocked in this upcoming event <10 it will all be fine and dandy yes #d20 (15) KNew itttttt
the girls are steer-ing clear you walk like a newborn deer
Kirara 🚗
the thunder rolls in like a tank
Kirara 🚗
>use the word "bong" in a report >professor: is there a more professional word for this?
sk
Waterpipe?
Kirara 🚗
I've never actually heard anyone call it a waterpipe, and bong is like, what it is. The word bong comes from what one of the cultures that originally created it called it.
I might just put bong in quotations and leave it like that.
sk
Isn't waterpipe what they're called when they're for tobacco use only and sold in headshops or whatever?
Kirara 🚗
I've honestly never been in a headshop, so I'm not sure.
"$300 glass bong" is probably enough
sk
In either case, that's probably what they meant I don't really understand why they'd bother you about it though, everyone knows what a bong is
Kirara 🚗
yeah, it's weird but whatever if i put it in quotations it means the client used that terminology and nobody will complain about it
Yuu
We just call them bongs in our reports.
Kirara 🚗
yeah, i mean, that's what they are
maybe this supervisor doesn't know what a bong is but i know he drops acid so that'd be weird
Anno
Maybe his familiarity with them is making him feel it's too informal a name. Which still would be kind of weird because you'd figure this wouldn't be his first time seeing the word in documentation.
Kirara 🚗
Maybe, I dunno.
Maybe he's just disoriented by how hardcore my client is.
Kirara 🚗
What's everyone up to?
月
sweating in the summer heat what about you
Yuu
You could refer to it simply as drug paraphenlia.
sk
I'm just watching youtube videos
Kirara 🚗
I'm just working on some reports. I got a lot of work to do.
>>528399 Nah, I don't think so. It's too general. The statement in question is a description of when my client was in a fight and struck with a $300 glass bong, which resulted in a large injury that required 26 staples to close. struck in the head
lol, one of the people in the set of incoming clinicians to the clinic i'm at listed their theoretical orientation as "psychodynamic/hypnosis"
Kirara 🚗
oh, someone else said they want to do "CBT/hypnosis" i knew the cohort after mine was full of dysfunctional neurotic losers that have breakdowns over having to write reports, but i didn't realize they were this bad
i'm a fan of hypnosis in fiction still shaky on the IRL aspect
月
its real-world counterpart is dependent on suggestibility for its influence it can have a real effect, but like, only if the subject believes it will
there's definitely hypnotic states that occur outside of a therapeutic setting though
Kirara 🚗
i think you can induce a trancelike state but i don't believe you can get any valid information from someone who has undergone hypnosis it's not some magic state that hooks you into the subconscious if you are leading at all it's going to influence their answers because they're already suggestible and you're only intensifying that suggestibility i don't think there's any real clinical application other than placebo
月
it's a lot more credible and actionable to just naturally work through the barriers imo like why take such a contrived and muddled approach when you can work to that state of openness through proper therapeutic methods
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
yeah it's a meditative tool i think that's as much as i've gotten out ofi t
speaking of hypnosis time to put on some trance music and blast through an hour of speed sudoku to work all the fuck out of my head
Kirara 🚗
i agreed to attend a march today, but i totally had the wrong idea about what it was for it turns out it was for something i super duper don't agree with so i'm skipping it
月
socks and sandals march
Kirara 🚗
it turns out it's being led by the parkland kids they want to ban mentally ill people from owning firearms and want to add more cops in schools also to write love on her arms will be there and those are really danger people, they spread a lot of misinformation about mental health and substance abuse and depression and try to ensnare homeless kids into becoming hardcore christians in exchange for food and stuff
Kirara 🚗
danger people dangerous
月
nothin better for a country than removing the protection and rights of its most vulnerable citizens
Kirara 🚗
idg how you could advocate something like that while simultaneously believing the current administration is targeting minorities it's so backwards but i guess that's what happens when you suddenly declare a bunch of rich white highschoolers to be the experts on gun control and give them an inordinate amount of speaking power
月
https://www.twitch.tv/joanelise if anyone is so bored as to watch someone else play sudoku
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
wubwubwub
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
i'm not sober enough for constructive discussion about gun control haha i'm like waaaaayy out there
this has a great >>528452 visual for tripping too reminds me of my canadian mountains
Kirara 🚗
i might order a pizza
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
i might eat a yogurt s
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
that vulnerable saturday afternoon and it's sunny out but i'm a little nervous about bein out there feeling
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
bicycle ride?
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
around the block only i think not in traffic i'll bike adventure on the grounds
Kirara 🚗
are you gonna go for a bike adventure while trippin
Kirara 🚗
be safe
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
thanks i'll be here in and out
Kirara 🚗
peek-a-booing
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
desperately trying to eat something and failing
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
damn you lemon poppy loaf why are you so intimidating i will plate you
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
ate two bites without making too much of a fool of myself i'll call that victory
Anno
I was out in the heat today, I am a melted puddle now.
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
oh damn my glasses came in
am i gonna pick up glasses while trippin
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
last time i went to this place an employee was helping me try out different pairs can never tell if she's flirting with me because i'm a customer pretty sure it's that grr
>>528527 me too i like tanks so I'm excited to finally get a new one i wasn't really happy with Orisa honestly
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
yeah i like to tank too! i’ve been tanking more and healing less as time goes on
Anno
my favorite characters are Hanzo and Roadhog and Zarya gonna add another tank to the roster
月
i like to play high utility units with lots of things to keep my brain moving i have not played overwatch though
Anno
>>528532 you would probably like zenyatta and moira
Ko-Shi
Ever since I left the game YOU Started healing less and tanking hits more. Hanging with some pubs I've never seen before.
You used to call me on my cell phone Late night when you neeeeed daaamage
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
it is fundamentally a 12 unit game
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
you you you you used to rez me on my lonesome
Ko-Shi
CF called me as I left the house. She wanted to see me. But I have to work so now I'm a communist
Kirara 🚗
i also want to see you
Ko-Shi
I would like to see you too. Just know that seeing her is higher on the ranking and I'm really upset at life.
Kirara 🚗
let us both weep
Ko-Shi
And now this couple is making out next to me while talking about harry potter movies and I finally understand those Japanese people who complain about couples on Christmas. Please go explode.
Kirara 🚗
tell them you cried when dumble dwarf killed grape
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
oh no
Ko-Shi
Lol the guy left because they thought the train was here and only she was leaving.
I already know not to expect anything but that part of me will not die.
Kirara 🚗
be yourself
Ko-Shi
I am being myself. I would be myself then too. I just know that no matter what the reality is, my brain will paint it with roses and daffodils.
Kirara 🚗
that's part of what makes you so endearing
Ko-Shi
I just dont want to read deep into things because we had a brief exchange and I found all kinds of flowery feelings in me. And I need to pluck them.
Kirara 🚗
ah to be young
Ko-Shi
It's not my fault. She's the one saying things that make me feel like peci l. ... Like someone special*
Kirara 🚗
You are someone special
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
you are pretty precious
YuuKirara 🚗Kirara 🚗
idk where i want to work next semester if i work at the hospital, i gotta do two consecutive days per week and stay in a resident dorm one night per week because the hospital is two hours away
i might go after the local substance abuse clinic but working at the hospital sounds really exciting constantly running around and working with a team, just constantly attending to whatever is happening at the moment
Maria
Which one do you reckon needs help more?
Kirara 🚗
whichever one i end up at, someone else will end up at the other
>>528572 what in the fuck that's more than my savings
Kirara 🚗
this is america
Maria
so is that just for the ambulance or does any of that cover the actual treatment
Kirara 🚗
that's the ambulance and anything they do to stabilize her in there which wouldn't be necessary bc she's ok treatment is more like 10k+
FormerRei@mobile
Just the ambulance
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
Don't worry, you'll be on a payment plan.
Ko-Shi
>>528565 >>528566 Yeah but you dont just say that. It's when being special is the proof. The things people would only tell you if you were special to them. The Specialness Proof!
Ko-Shi
When she called, I asked her what was going on. Usually when she calls me something is happening or is about to happen. But she said "I just wanted to see you" and I hate all the happiness that one sentence brought me.
I almost smiled in front of my family while taking out the garbage.
If that happened, even they'd know something was up. Garbage day is nothing to smile about.
月
since you've awakened her again she depends on you she depends on you
>>528584 No It's bad It means I still want something. Seeing her is good. Being happy is good. Feeling special because i was privately invited is ... usually good but isnt good this time.
Alice
oh, sorry.
Ko-Shi
It's not something to apologize about. I'm just a mess who only feels lonely when I'm in ove
AnnoAnno
Cloudflare was giving me a bunch of grief for a bit. Looks like it's cleared up now.
Anno
>>528585 If it makes you feel better I've been stuck with some similar feelings recently and it's been driving me crazy.
Anno
>>528589 Same, I think its partially because of my shitty internet. 502 error for ages
Anno
If it was happening for you too, then I doubt it's on your Internet's side, shitty or not.
Anno
When my internet is crapping out, lots of cloudflare errors happen. like I can't upload images at the moment.
Maria
>>528591 I heard someone else complaining about it, I think it was cloudflare itself acting up
This catharsis must have been brought on by the rain
Anno
The more I read the paperwork for this job the worse my apprehension gets. A part of me recognizes 80% of this stuff just covers shit that never happens or can just be done through common sense. But I've never had a good grasp over my irrationalities.
It's also honestly kind of a mediocre job, as far as part-time jobs go. I'm really hoping there's a better option at some point.
Oh yeah, I'm like instantly outside when it starts up It must be the water, a natural affinity to it
Anno
I love the sound of rain, but I don't like being outside in it. Getting wet isn't terribly fun for me.
Maria
Being outside immediately after the rain has stopped and there's still puddles and dew is great
>>528612 do you bring an umbrella or just let it pour all over you >>528618 full moon reflected in the puddle is good
Anno
I love the rain as well, it is incredibly soothing to me. and makes everything so shiny and reflective, night time lights at the trains station reflected in the puddles is amazing
Anno
I let it drench me unfiltered And the only umbrella I want is the one that Léa Seydoux is repping in Death Stranding
Anno
I kinda like having a umbrella sometimes, you can hear the rain hitting it and watch the water roll down it. plus getting wet isn't always fun, wet hair can be pretty irritating.
Anno
I will swim in the rain even It's the most intense physical sensation to me Very reliable too since I live by the mountaisn and lakes etc. it never gets old.
Anno
feeling the rain hit your skin feels good
i want one of those transparent umbrellas so i can see the rain hit it though that sounds cool
月Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
six (six!) ty nine (-ty nine!) without ... the niiiine
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
i didn't end up being able to handle the app // nintendo switch store to play sonic but i had a nice bicycle ride and i uh did some reflection then the sun started setting and the light got all weird and i started getting into a weird mood but i recognized this and got out of it so it was good!
月
did you have a nice trip
月
that sounds really nice i wouldn't mind taking a trip like that
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
i went to uniqlo and bought some shirts and i think i hallucinated some voices in there or maybe that was actually people talking behind me idk insecurities then i had sushi and that made it better end of blog
did you solve 100 sudokus
月
i think so i had some really good streaks but couldn't beat like 2:10 i think i was overstimulated i think there's too much buffering during stimulation i can break 2:00 a lot more consistently without errors when i'm unstimulated
idk i think there's a difference between audio hallucinations and audio affects the latter are just a natural result of consuming a lot of audio media throughout the day and the absence of stimuli generates it's own virtual sensations the brain gets used to expecting loud music or lots of conversation, and when it's in that state and there's none, the absence of input disrupts the audial cortex even more you just end up processing a lot of counter-noise
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
yeah my anxious mind generates predictions on random noise and some of it kind of sounds like an unpleasant sentence and bam
月
just brain connections and dynamic experiences my man you gonna feed in a lot of stuff to your audial cortex, it's gonna buffer around to it make sure it receives the relevant information stop doin it and the relevant information isn't coming in, and those buffering algos meant to counteract redundancy start counteracting nothing but still with a designated effect and the part that's tryna work together what it all means confabulates the brain is a really interesting place to live i wouldn't mind moving there sometime
Anno
when it gets quiet i usually start hearing music really faintly but usually it's a short sequence that plays over and over again and gets incredibly annoying so i like if there's some kind of ambient noise
Beta月
it can be a little euphoric, the internal sounds of your brain conducting its own music as you're winding down to a slumbery state it's a very common thing for me
i wonder a bit whether other stimulations also go through that sort of affectation
>>528735 i hear verbiage a lot when there's none for me it doesn't tend to be clear or directed though it's very idle chatter, like i'm sitting at a cafe and just picking up some signals of very unrelated parties conversing things very casually it's very easing to me to have that sometimes, as opposed to more invasive kinds of thoughts i'm not sure whether it's because of my job and my brain being built around on listening into others' conversations and typing them or if it's my anxiety medications that cull things potentially more paranoid into something calm
but i've def had the kind of audial persistent affects post-stimulation since my teenage years i used to come up with really amazing melodies while in a pre-sleep state and think, "oh man i'm gonna remember this and recreate it when i'm awake" but could never remember it
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
we need a brain recorder no wait scratch that we definitely don't
月
can we have a brain saxophone instead
Anno
What about a brain accordion.
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
i need a bicycle for the mind
Anno
I'd take one too, really.
月
>>528773 can you make a competitive multiplayer sudoku platform like a sudoku race
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
brainmonica
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
>>528776 sudoku race eh i could... writing matchmaking would be hard. i guess you would generate a room and wait for someone les e
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
>In the Netherlands you are often expected to remove/install floor when you move. >Hard wood, tiles... Anything until you reach the concrete.
月
>>528779 matchmaking would be tough room creation and playable by invite shouldn't be though i imagine
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
yeah i should write a like basic matchmaking lobby thing for random moe games hmmm
月
there should be plenty of systems to feed in puzzles from based on difficulty that is a more mathy chore that is probably avoidable
i went to taco bell and those mother fuckers were out of taco meat and nachos how can you let your fuckin taco place run out of tacos
Maria
This one time while I was working at KFC we ran out of chicken for a few hours It happens
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
gettin crazy shatters i love reinhardt
Anno
Tim Hortons restaurants in Canada are kind of infamous for their iced capp machines constantly breaking down. It's not quite the same but like, that single drink is a total hallmark of the franchise brand. Always seemed funny to me that they don't invest in machines that aren't so shitty or even just stock two so if one breaks they can get a few more hours out of the other one before it too breaks.
Anno
>>528836 yeah it's just pathetic though >>528840 are you sure you're not just clumsy
月
tim hortons in st ouis // louis are kind of infamous for improperly sizing their tables about a half inch too short such that people try to place their drinks on the table and it spills it's a very common occurrence and a serious issue that the company needs to take care of
Anno
Probably won't. The company that owns the Tim Hortons brand is dead set on dragging its reputation through all manner of shit and mud for the sake of cutting costs. These days I don't even go there unless I have a gift card from -for the place. I can get better coffee for cheaper at McDick's. And better coffee for a little more literally anywhere else. Plus their bakery department just unfreezes flash-frozen pastries at the store. Even McDonald's up here isn't that lazy with them.
月
>>528839 no it was definitely a fault of engineering design
according to an article from this patch.com site tim hortons closed all of its st. louis stores at the end of last year? something about capitalism and lawsuits i dunno their donut holes are nice
>>528843 They're the only place I know that does cinnamon-dusted Timbits, which is maybe the -single- concession I will make for them. Those things are amazing.
>>528844 I think it's a regional name. I -Whenever I hear someone call it that they always seem to be from Ontario, or at least this neck of the North American woods.
Maria
McDongers
>>528839 The Krushers machine only worked like half the time too
Anno
Even though it's 03:50 here there's still this thick blanket of muggy heat outside. I love it so much.
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
that sounds like a nice summer night
Anno
We had like a high of 33C with humidity around 80% today. And we're set for a repeat come tomorrow. This is probably my favourite time of year.
Samurai Lal'C !KW2DbpWwls
oof sounds like a hard time on me maybe if i'm in shorts and sandals
Anno
I won't deny it was definitely pretty intense. I don't like shorts so my options for reducing heat retention is pretty much just a thinner t-shirt. On the other hand I'm pretty good with heat and it just felt good to be out there, cooking in the afternoon sun.
My biggest gripe is that all the public transit has the air conditioning blasting way too much. You go from the super-heat outside to what feels like an ice cold bus or subway. The initial feeling might feel pretty nice but it doesn't give you a chance to adjust to the outdoor temperatures all too well. And not to mention constantly jumping between temperature extremes like that is a potential risk for sickness.
月
>>528843 lawsuits from spilling drinks probably it had to be a common occurence with their clearly negligent design
One of the seiyuu for the Princess Principal girls is retiring from voice acting due to illness. I wonder what this will mean for the movie series they had planned.
Kirara 🚗
i weep
Anno
like a fucking diamond falling from my fucking eye
Kirara 🚗Maria
>>528863 safely store radiation by storing it in demons
she doesn't look very good with short hair i mean it's fine but it doesn't look like kizuna ai changing clothes and hair of a character make them look like an entirely new character
sk
The new outfit is better though
Anno
>>528877 I'd say I agree, but I also have zero investment in her as a personality and don't really care if it's a total change. I definitely like the new design better.
Anno
it's an improvement on the outfit part at least
Kirara 🚗
>>528879 then say you agree coward i don't have any investment either and look how opinionated i am
Anno
I don't really get opinions on things I'm not invested in all too often.
Kirara 🚗
weak
Ko-Shi
>>528874 holy shit Did they just hit her with C H A R A C T E R D E V E L O P M E N T ????????
Though I'd prefer it as a temporary design Classic Pink Kizuna Ai I wouldl ike to return maybe in the winter
Anno
With every new job I start my apprehension towards it seems to increase. I remember the degree of unease I felt on my first day at the place I worked at before, and this time it seems even worse.
>>528966 an hour long presentation on nutrition, a two page paper on some bullshit, and i gotta read like four articles on transphobia and put a presentation together to prepare for my next dissertation meeting
To do:
Regression write-up Termination letter for CQ DM treatment plan to farber DRP stuff; fat discrimination index and Richeson's vignette studies + research on vignettes Start CPE interpretations (after July 4th) Prepare test battery for Thursday (think about cultural addressing exercise) include TAT to look for themes? Nutrition Presentation Health journal DRP research
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
>>528965 If I had to pick one, the entire Hello Charlotte series.
Alternatively, since it's also by deep sea prisoner, Mogeko Castle if you want to get nice and dark. It's only about 2-3 hours whereas all of Hello Charlotte is uh like 7 >>528967 Have fun
I finally beat the final boss as the defect Slay the spire is hard until you get unlocks
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
although, Maria, I would avoid that twitter until you play due to spoilers >>528988 which final boss
sk
Awakened One I wasn't running a power deck, so it was fine, but I just kept getting terrible hands so I was 4hp when I finished
My whole theme was "consume, glacier, channel a lot"
sk
I feel like I might overvalue hologram, but it's SO STRONG It's 1 energy to get any card from your discard pile, and upgraded it doesn't even exhaust, it's so good
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
just pull your turbos back
sk
Pulling turbo is great, but only if you actually have draw And I was really unlucky, I only got one compile driver (which did a LOT of work for me since I had fission and that power that gives you slot) and a coolheaded I was only able to upgrade the coolheaded right before the boss, too
sk
If I had more draw though, oh man this run would have been easy because I had the energy to get meteor strike to pop every time I drew it without problems And enough channeling happening to get that energy back very quickly
sk
Also pro tip: if hologram's the last thing you're gonna play, pull a void
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
compile driver too complicated go lightning spam or go home
sk
I actually didn't expect it to work, but it exhausts the void and now your turbo was just free
I wanna get ice cream in a defect run and just have a million turbos
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
I was about to say "Ice cream is a hell of a drug" but then I noticed this cap doesn't even use it
>>529002 why even arrest the guy in the wheelchair Messed up
Kirara 🚗
because he gave a speech saying that immigrants aren't criminals, the white house is criminals he was a clear leadership role at the protest so they arrested him
>>528998 how the hell double energy and echo form?
sk
>>529000 Defect is really the only reason I picked the game up again I don't have that much fun with the other two
ToN
>>529010 probably something like that or nightmare or so
Anno
Well I'm gonna be inescapably late for my first day at work. Having a hard time resisting the urge to just shut my phone off and go for a four hour walk in the valley.
sk
logging off from real life is really tempting Run away to a commune
Anno
they really signed you up quick, huh
Anno
Went in for a fifteen minute interview of "can you work weekends? Okay, you're hired."
sk
The gradual progress of real life feels nice though, doesn't it? Like now I've got a job, albeit UNCERTAINTY FOR THE MORROW and all that, and I'll be getting my license eventually too If possible, climbing ranks at work would be nice, too There's more money in that
Anno
Jobs have recently given me far more anxiety than
Anno
I'm still watching and waiting to see what happens with this one I'm still training and not fast enough the department is just starting up so who knows what the hours are gonna be like especially for casuals like me
>>529017 you're gonna get promoted to manager if you're not careful
sk
I mean, someone's gonna be the manager anyway, right? I don't think I have what it takes to be a manager though, I don't like bossing people around
Kirara 🚗
>well, someone's gonna oppress everyone else, might as well be me
Kirara 🚗
only good manager is one that sabotages production
sk
I could do that I'd probably just try to meet quotas barely, because anything else is more than I wanna do
Kirara 🚗
on Friday, my 18yo client told me he was going to Switzerland for a vacation soon and was like, "you should go to Switzerland on one of your vacations" you little shit lmao you don't even know how rich you are
sk
To be wealthy enough not to need a concept of money
Ko-Shi
Coming to terms with how awful today's work was. We had to take over an overtime job because there were too many over time jobs happening and they needed people to take this one over. And half of my gang called out. Moral: When CF calls, call out.
月
>>529026 my psych is consisently like, when scheduling appointments, "okay well i'll be on a trip to the mediterrranean for the next three months" and she keeps tellin me about her trips although i really love hearin about it so i ask but yeah it's like fuck i can't even afford my wellbutrin my vacation is like a sunday visit to a mexican restaurant
Kirara 🚗
>>529028 toldja kirara knows best! like 60% of the time
>>529029 yeah lmao my client was like, yeah, my parents just went to the Netherlands and my sister went to Japan, I'm going to Switzerland soon maaan
Ko-Shi
My only difficulty with calling out is that our gang supervisors usually aren't there until about... 9:50 and we start at 10. So calling out would require me to have already decided to call out before leaving. Otherwise it's like... "well, I'm already here. Might as well make my money." I can't call them ahead of time if I'm doing it the same day I decide to stay home.
月
>>529030 i was gonna go to singapore with my dad during his retirement i really was looking forward to that a lot
Kirara 🚗
when im a doctor im gonna use all my extra worthless money to take y'all on trips and shit fuckin, psychs complaining about only making $60/hr sometimes bitch you know what i can do with that?
i wanted to be a doctor a surgeon specifically my ex laughed at me when i told her man life sure is cruel
Kirara 🚗
it's fucked up how much luck you need and if you're poor you need luck and hard work but you gotta work hard before you even know if you'll have the luck life really is cruel
月
i've got a really strong amount of the knowledge base now especially around urological surgery but that takes a lot of specialization before you can get there
but either way i can't be a surgeon now my nerves are so fucked up and my hands shake horribly
Anno
why become a surgeon when you can be a sturgeon
月
kirara do you have any underground connections maybe i can be a street surgeon for the kind of people who can't enter into a hospital without incrimination
Kirara 🚗
nah, no connections like that here in florida at least not outside of miami or something
月
guess i oughtta get my passport issued finally so i can go to mongolia
check out this tugrik i wish we had currency like this in the states
Kirara 🚗
if you pull out one of those eyes, a boulder rolls down the hallway at you
月
i've decided that the mountains are a much better exit strategy than the forest the high altitude and lower air density means fewer pathogens and it's probably one of humanity's most successful environments
Well I guess I'm out of a job again. Maybe one of the other ones I applied for will get to me after the holiday weekend.
>>529073 No I caved to the anxiety. I was already late on top of my terror at doing a job in what seemed like a pretty mediocre workplace for what was likely less than minimum wage after union deduction. I just switched my phone off and went for actually a literal four hour walk in the valley. Even in despair my sense of time is fucking on point.
sk
Wow you got fired?
sk
Aw rip
Anno
Now I've got to either come up with a thorough and convincing lie as to why I didn't get past orientation day, or resolve to tell my parents the truth. On top of just being miserable. Maybe I should just switch off again and sleep for a decade.
月
i would explain the anxiety i dont know your parents but i think people generally can understand the feeling
Anno
I can try, but I'm worried it'll not quite be .
... internalized? My parents are not unsympathetic people, but they do engage a bit hard in the philosophy of "you do what you need to do". In the past my attempts to explain my mental obstacles has been met generally with, "but you need to do this". They seem to get so focused on the need to do something that they neglect to account for if it can. And maybe that works for them, and to other degrees my siblings, but I struggle with it.
月
it took me a lot of figuring out and trial and error to finally get through that my anxieties weren't me not wanting to do something but actually not being able to the mental paralysis and the nerves so frayed that you want to vomit it's actually not possible for me to function in that way i would have a seizure
Anno
The one major relief today at least was that it seems they never actually tried contacting me while I was doing my walkabout. So maybe they had even less invested in me showing up than I expected. Or maybe it's just because the lead manager who did my interview wasn't in today.
ToN
completely unrelated
Anno
>>529078 In the past I've certainly done a lot of running away from things. If anything that's my element. When things get tough, I hide. Of course most of those times hadn't been as serious as this, and even I'm not sure if it's really been anxiety or just my lousy discipline and work ethic choosing the path of least resistance.
But this time I definitely feel I was losing it to the anxiety. It was getting harder to breathe and I had some really bad thought spirals both before and after I decided to walk away. Trying to imagine handling that while learning how to do deli shit and handling customers after possibly getting chewed out for being late on my first day and maybe being told my only serviceable pair of shoes wouldn't work for store policy and that my pants aren't the right colour despite looking for -oh
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
ever have that moment where you just sing randomly some whatever thing while doing things and then you end up with somethign really weird like a factory that makes blueberry machines out of cans that then get turned into blueberry soup in grinders
Anno
I feel like I get drowned by every possible worry about what can go wrong when I try to do something new, unless it's something I can throw my whole enthusiasm at. Why is being a human bean so much work.
Anno
Sorry, I had the better most of four hours with this rattling around in my head I want to throw it away.
Kirara 🚗
how many calories do y'all eat every day
FormerRei@mobile
Like 1500
Anno
>>529085 Ranges pretty wildly. Probably consistently no less than 1000 and rarely more than 1800.
月
>>529085 probably like 350 in food and like 1400 in milk
Kirara 🚗
>>529086 same i need to add so many calories but it's so hard idg how people can complain about eating too much how do they fucking do it >>529088 wow
FormerRei@mobile
That's just a guess though. My eating habits are erratic.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
No idea since I never count them
Kirara 🚗
i need like 2400 to stop losing weight
月
that's about 15 glasses of whole milk you can manage that
Kirara 🚗
i probably can't haha
Anno
Probably doesn't help that my daily activity ranges all over the place too. I can eat a lot more on a day I've been active.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
so by the way why do americans just shorten kilocalories to just calories?
月
i drink like eight glasses of milk on a day that i have adderall just to combat the acidity and stuff
Kirara 🚗
i need to add like 100g of carbohydrates and i can add up to like 20g of fats
月
>>529096 yeah kind of they're actually called dietary calories but just calories for short >>529098 i do like a bagel in the morning milk all day long some fried vegetables in the evening
then like every third day or fourth or so i will just eat like a whole lot of whatever with meat swedish meatballs or chicken marsala or something
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>529099 every other country uses kcal, atleast what I have seen atleast every non english speaker
Anno
It's just a fascinating coincidence that one dietary calorie equals one kilocalorie.
>>529100 yes i know kilocal is the term and that a dietary calorie is 1000 calories, the unit of energy we use the term dietary calorie simply to infer that it's calories from dietary intake there is probably a historical reason why we do it that way but idk
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Just thinking is it because of convienience or the same reason why american 9 is european 11 in terms of sizes
Kilos are metric prefix and is rather out of place in Imperial countries
Kirara 🚗
it's so annoying that everything is low calorie now
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
if anyother country than france chose to spread metric system, the british would have adapted it too
月
>>529107 fuckin i get so irate trying to buy yogurt sometimes i really want yogurt and it's all got the marketing of mid-30s women in yoga pants and that kind of thing every single item in the yogurt section is zero fat, no/low calories i understand why low calorie yogurt is a nice thing but there are no regular fat yogurt or regular calorie yogurts i want some heavy cream yogurt with tons of flavor and substance
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
give me all the low calorie shit
Kirara 🚗
>>529109 the funniest thing about this is that low-fat foods and no-fat foods make you fatter it's all so fucking stupid
Anno
It's a rather funny situation. The intuitive conclusion should be that eating fatty foods will make you fat, and there is sometimes a correlation there. But that's because lots of fatty foods tend to have higher calorie counts and some other things
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>529111 I don't think it is the food, but rather the person consuming it so much
>>529114 how in hell then? Or I guess rather, what the fuck do you put in your low fat foods?
Kirara 🚗
>>529116 the fats in food don't make you fat, that fat is absorbed and used in the body the stuff that makes you fat is carbs people take in too many carbs or they get low quality carbs that can't be metabolized well, and it all gets stored in fat cells well, those low-fat foods all have added sugars to make them taste good those added sugars fuck up your metabolism of fat because they are low quality and the insulin in our body can't regulate it properly so it ends up your fat cells retain too many fats
月
>>529116 nothing the problem with putting nothing in your food is your body can't do anything with it
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>529117 depends on fats, though, but yeah carbs is the true enemy for most overweights
月
caloric restriction also inhibits metabolism and can cause weight gain // retention because the body's not doing much
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>529117 I see I thought a food advertised as "low fat" would also be low sugar and such I guess applying food logic from here to USA is a mistake >add sugars to make it taste good
Anno
Fats and sugars are pretty distinct components of food science, no matter where you are in the world.
Kirara 🚗
>>529121 if you want to sell food, you increase the parts of it that our body craves
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
like take no fat milk here it has 0,01kcal per 100mil or something only added thing is vitamin d
Kirara 🚗
they don't add sugar to milk here either
月
chocolate milk obviously but yeah sugars are naturally in milk we also have reduced fat and zero fat milk when i reference milk calories above it was for whole milk
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
But I do question the existence of those 0 cal yoghurts? Why would you even buy them just buy a salad and a cucumber and nom them equally next to nil calories, but atleast you get lots of vitamins and fibers to get your body to have something to grind on
Kirara 🚗
people want to fill their stomachs but they're terrified of calories
月
>>529128 i dont think people buy yogurt to fill their stomach it's a snack for snack's sake it's weird but i remember a time i used to have a lot of joy out of just eating a snack just for the flavor or the activity like that was a pretty engaging task i just avoid eating as long as possible now until it's absolutely necessary
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
if I buy yoghurt, I buy strawberry vanilla and it has plenty of stuff in it to fill me up and not just in the literal sense
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Also I wonder how many calories koizumi takes daily... this is her 4th or 5th on screen ramen on that day
Anno
You best not ask. Koizumi is a black hole when it comes to ramen.
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
I'm more concerned about the sodium intake
月
Pikachurin is a dystroglycan-interacting protein which has an essential role in the precise interactions between the photoreceptor ribbon synapse and the bipolar dendrites.
>1990s parents >pokemans is just a fad the kids will forget all about it in a few months!!
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>529132 you could calculate it somewhat easily if you wanted, though
Kirara 🚗
>>529133 preparing your own foods will reduce your sodium intake by probably half
月
i dont think sodium is as big of a deal as it's made out to be personally but i'm probably being very ignorant
>>529137 sodium isn't really a big problem for most people if you consume a lot of sodium, you can account for it by drinking more water too sodium is only a concern in the context of water because too little sodium and you get water poisoning, too little water, and you get sodium poisoning
月
yeah im aware of that but i thought it had somethin to do with vascular health they always be tellin people with high blood pressure to lay off the salts or maybe they're talkin about the bath salts
Kirara 🚗
too much salt consistently can increase chance of hypertension but imo the relationship there is just that people who consume massive amounts of salt also are unhealthy in other ways
月
i noticed ive fallen into a trend of biological focus in the mornings i'm always lookin at grape ape systems or cephalopods or neurology or surgical stuff for like the first four hours of every day i learned about invagination today sometimes i'm shown my own ignorance and very humbled by it i bet i make assumptions all the time from what i think is an educated opinion but there's like 7th graders that'll just be like "wtf no that's not how it works. didn't you take biology class in high school"
and i'll be like no school sucks kid go get a life
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>529141 if you get high amounts of salt through your diet, you either eat too many or just eat trash food filled with sugars and fats
Kirara 🚗
adding a bunch of cereal and milk to my diet just fucks up my protein lmao i might have to switch to an unhealthy cereal in order to meet my caloric requirements
FormerRei@mobile
Eat rice Just in addition to all your other styff.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
eat oatmeals
月
eat goat meals
Kirara 🚗
oatmeal is higher in protein than healthy cereal by a looooooooot
>>529142 yeah but they also don't learn real facts in high school
no, but i should be getting around 50-60 grams of protein each day for my activity level, and adding cereal and milk throws me up to 78 and i still have like 200-400 calories i need to add
月
okay google how much protein is in a glass of whole milk guess i'm gettin about 64 grams of protein a day from milk
apparently 100g of applesauce has like 10g of protein
月
no that's not right it can't be you have been rused my friend it's like 0.4g of protein for a cup (246 grams)
Kirara 🚗
what brand
月
apple sauce
Kirara 🚗
is that a brand?
月
no it's a sauce
Kirara 🚗
if i don't eat a clif bar for lunch, no nevermind, that'll increase my protein way too much hmm
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
How about I sauce your apple
月
musselman's applesauce says 0 proteins for unsweetened 0.46g for sweetened apples have almost no protein in them at all so i dont know what brand you've found that has 10 grams of protein in it but they must be using meat for artificial flavor or something
wait was it jack's teriyaki applesauce
Anno
>>529152 what kind of apples have that much protein?
Kirara 🚗
i think the one i was looking at was actually like, a bulk thing, not actually 100g like i thought
Kirara 🚗
i could probably just add two bagels to my diet every day
月
the thing that makes bagels great is that you only have one of them in a day don't ruin it
last time I asked, I recall getting result "good bread costs much munie"
Kirara 🚗
im basically doubling my calorie intake so whatever i do it will be very expensive i dont think bread is that bad though
月
i think you inverted something there it's that there is very cheap bread but it has little nutritional value there's plenty of fine breads everything from that german brick bread to pumpernickel bread, artisan loaves, oat nut loaves, everything there's cheaper and nicer versions of all of those things too
Anno
>>529168 I find good bread at reasonable prices there's a bunch of really shitty bread for dirt cheap though
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
ryebread is the way to go anyhow
Kirara 🚗
i guess extra protein is okay as long as i work it all off
Kirara 🚗
we have made it fucking impossible to have a proper diet by artificially fucking everything
月
what was wrong with the applesauce was it not enough calories
Anno
too much protein I think
月
there's no fucking protein in applesauce im gonna lose it
Kirara 🚗
i would have to eat like 6 cups of applesauce to get enough calories out of it
月
haha fuckin just show up to your appointments with a ziploc bag full of applesauce
drinking blueberrysoup out of a bag with a straw would look quite sketchy
月
>>529181 that's too over the top i would use a fork and make sure to really look like i'm struggling but that i really am determined i think people would probably start feeling a whole lot of pity at a subconscious level
Kirara 🚗
i could eat four bananas every day and that would work
月
bananas are great maybe you could do a fruit smoothie?
Kirara 🚗
oh, that's a pretty good idea
Anno
I'd get real sick of bananas if I ate four a day
月
10 grams of protein in 100g of applesauce im just realizing would mean that applesauce is 10% protein like just a puddle of proteins
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>529189 1 after every meal basically and 1 as as nack plenty of room inbetween the nanas
what the fuck does that applesauce have in it then I don't believe apples are that high in protein or is the sauce like super concentrated in apples like 100g of it is like 1kg of apples
Kirara 🚗
yeah actually a fruit smoothie could probably do a lot of good especially if i put in a ton of fruits
Yuu
hello hello
Kirara 🚗
hello rika How many calories do you consume each day?
月
i dunno. how many calories are there?
Kirara 🚗
i could just drink some vegetable oil
Kirara 🚗
adding a smoothie and a cereal with no nutritional value got me to 2423 calories
my breakfast is higher calorie than my dinner and lunch together lmao
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
cereals with yoghurt + berries is great but even better is müsli + yoghurt + berries do they have müsli over there?
Kirara 🚗
my childhood dog just died
月
aw
Yuu
>>529196 I don't really keep track. I keep the weight off by staying active and not overeating.
>>529204 My childhood cat died like two years ago.
月
do you sip on your water /moe/ or do you guzzle it down
Kirara 🚗
i usually guzzle i guess although that word feels wrong
月
yeah i wasn't sure the best way to describe it but i feel that it's not quite right either i just pour a glass of water at the sink, drink it all, and set the glass back by the sink milk too i will sip on energy drinks that i have or soda pop or something while i'm at my laptop though i just feel an unquenchable thirst all the time so i'm constantly drinking fluids
>>529206 I drink a full glass then fill it up again to sip on
月
i wish i had those eatable water pouches they have in japan it's in this membrane and you just pop it in your mouth and it dissolves or something and you swallow the water
Kirara 🚗
i got all this work to do and i'm supposed to be at a party in an hour and i'm all overstimulated now