do you think we'll get moon tourism in our lifetime
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
uhhh yeah why not idk maybe not unless it can be made extremely safe and Disneyland-ified
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in our lifetime? I mean for really rich people with nothing better to do maybe, but not for like, random people on vacation Partly because it's gonna be way too expensive, partly because there's legit nothing to do or see up there
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you can see earth!
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you can do that from orbit
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it's also like, really fucking far away
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thats true
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
youd have to have reusable rockets that can land there and come back it takes like 3 days inside a tiny little module to get there and everything has to go pretty much perfectly idk seems like a tough business unless we invent a space elevator and build a ton of cool domes on the moon
>>1165723 ngl ladyboys generally p high quality it's one of those things you know like how to say it anoooo
to show another the qualities they dont realize they have because they've never been without it etoooo
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
huh
moon
if you don't know about the things you know you don't know, then what do you know about what you do know you don't know do you know you know it when you don't know you don't know it i dont think so
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
donald rumsfeld pls
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but when you know some thing, you do know it and by you, I'm refering to me you know? ahhhhh lol
moon
>>1165728 well how was the first prime number discovered did you ever thin // think of it
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hmmm ya idk like if before it was created did it all ways exitist just wasn't discovered yet? a serious question, trying to fig's the answer. Not claiming to know it.
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
beo numbers dont exist bro* numbers are just like ideas we use to help us understand the universe
moon
numbers are relationships and i can assure you relationships exist
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
can you pick up a relationship? can uou smell or taste it
moon
can you measure it
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
i like to draw a fairly strict dichotomy between things that are real (like oxygen) and ideas/patterns/theories
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maybe taste not going there with smelling, unless it's not weird and flagrant with over tone of pleasent
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
it's how i stay sane if i start trying to put unreal things like words or numbers or concepts into my "real" bucket then i know i've lost the plot
moon
your life would be more complete if you introduced rotational symmetry into the complex plane
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
speen
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well when it comes to O2 how many parts per million can be the dif between life or death so do numbers matter then?
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
ya so my lungs are real the oxygen is real and so is the CO2 my blood cells are real but all of that stuff works without any numbers involved
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what if hypotheticaly if be down to one lung it would matter then right less o2 in the system
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
you see what i mean? thats how i like to think about the dichotomy
>>1165743 sure but like again the lung is just like "hey im exchanging oxygen for co2 the best i can buddy" its not doing calculus under the hood its just like nerves and muscle and stuff no numbers exist in the whole process, but you can use numbers to describe the process if you want
>>1165747 >It's not like doing calculus under the hood im not entirely sure that's true the heuristics run pretty deep
it was my unconscious mind that taught me how to do numerical analysis in the first place im pretty sure in my opinion we don't have any mathematics outside of us that didn't already exist inside of us but that's a different argument that's not very approachable at this occasion
