wow there is formatting on here? using markdown or bbtext? to save face, I suppose you could say "while you were knocked out" to mean sleeping *I see*, **interesting**
Fair I guess I might rewatch Liar Game since I'm on a live action train again now Liar Game is pretty good, for a live action adaptation
yuyuko
to be truthful I just wanted to post some of this show's great screenshots
yuyuko
>>986426 interesting, that one I haven't seen, I suppose it's similar to Kaiji in terms of themes? >>986429 I see I see, that's fascinating, I will likely give it a watch somehow anime as iconic as Kaiji can never be too similar to other shows I feel like
s c
It's very similar, but somewhat different still It's a lot less gambling themed, but the overall conceit is the same It's more psychological in nature than gambling Hence the name, most of the games are kinda rooted in pulling a fast one on the opponents
s c
I can definitely recommend it, though I dunno if maybe the manga is better, it's been a long time since I watched it
!C0.PerkELE
the manga is better but a looooot of reading
yuyuko
were you referring to the live action movie adaptions or the korean series? >>986431 mangas are often better but sometimes I just want something to watch, while travelling I prefer LNs so I end up not really reading much manga
!C0.PerkELE
ot is a very dialog driven series so it kinda suffers from that but not to the level kf marvel text blocks
s c
>>986432 Liar Game has, seemingly, both a 2season Japanese live action adaptation, 2 movies, and 1 season of Korean live action I think I watched the Japanese one Dunno if I ever watched the movies though
yuyuko
>>986433 dialog driven content can still be good, I played through Umineko for example even though there are literally no interactive element and basically dialog all the way through >>986434 I see I see, kind of curious that all of those exist, I guess I'll look around >>986436 oh okay, yeah I can sympathize with that, mangas that were meant to be LNs and the other way around...
!C0.PerkELE
what i mean is using its medium i recall lg being at the level at times, where it woud have suited being a ln or a book instead of manga that much text on page but never where i really saw it consistently fail at iys medium just at times
also it is like many long mystery series or the swindler swindling swindlers, kurosagi, repetive
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
/moe/
!C0.PerkELE
>>986435 it is failure or lack of skill from author in the end but lg was a fun one and the character devekopment of the mc was great
yuyuko
>>986438 I'll have to see if I give the manga or the live adaption (or both) a go, but my interest is already piqued
!C0.PerkELE
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurosagi_(manga) wud req this too i never finished, but don't remember was it out of getting bored of the repetive firmat or, more likely scans died and never went back when it resumef
happens a lot also if i run behind on releases i wilö usually only return to a series when it ends, if
yuyuko
>>986440 wow I can relate, sometimes I won't even begin a series that isn't finished because I know I will semi-drop it, wait and consume some of it again when it's out
!C0.PerkELE
i think i read kurosagi but not shin kurosagi can't remember
s c
Apparently a South Korean ISP is suing netflix for making a show that's too popular "Netflix made a show that's simply too popular, and now all our customers are using the bandwidth they pay for, which is obviously a crime committed against us by netflix, and not us selling a product we don't have" This shit is so stupid
s c
Even ignoring the net neutrality stuff, it's obvious the crime here is selling something you don't have, not being the reason people are buying it
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
I think all ISPs sell things they don't have If everyone wanted to use the bandwith they are paying for at once the internet would crash
s c
Well yeah, it is normal, but false advertisment being the industry standard doesn't mean it's a crime to be the reason your scam falls apart
s c
Also isn't it standard for an internet connection subscription being like, you pay for a minimum, up to a maximum? Like you're paying for a speed up to 10MB/s or whatever, but you're not guaranteed more than 1MB/s at any given time if the network load is high?
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
something like that yeah
s c
Also netflix themselves are already paying for their own subscription, too, so it's not like they're just mooching in the first place It's probably a different ISP, but those two ISPs have some sorta deal with each other
Mahou Shoujo Marsh-chan
Tch
i sent an email to my boss's boss and an external law firm with a typo in it.
>>986459 oh yes, I still can't find a spiritual successor to it will just have to rewatch it again and again throughout the years it is certainly a very unique show
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\Anno
i should rewatch it there's so many things i want to rewatch though and so many things i still haven't watched
AnnoKirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
watch kamen rider gaim
Annoyuyuko
>>986465 wtf, what is this, where can I get it? >>986464 can' t go wrong with a rewatch of that particular series >>986469 rip, concept artists are the creators and destroyers of dreams
>>986472 the games the art is based on? I feel a bit retarded right now not gonna lie\ >>986473 lol what makes you believe that not french but not particularly far from france >>986476 lmao is it really such a defining property of the french I'm Austrian
Anno
>>986468 just an image i found on /a/ years and years ago
I wonder if I still have my long-ass solution to the devil game in Liar Game around here somewhere Most of the games in the series are very much based on wits and cleverness, but one game in particular is a solved game where you can 100% guarantee victory for, I think, everyone
>Light fades. Nature ripens. Build connection with solutions that deliver constant in the inconstant.
this copy writer's mind absolutely fricked
Anno
They just want to write fantasy novels and they're stuck in copy writing hell
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
why are running shoes so frickin $$$
Anno
because they're also fashion
Anno
also TECHNOLOGY
Anno
i got a pair of asics for like 100 bucks once that were pretty decent i have a pair of adidas now that are more like all-purpose athletic shoes, not so much running shoes that were also only like 120 but high performance shoes, yeah it's probably gonna be like 200-400 or more the sky's the limit with shoe prices
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
plus canadian prices plus inflation hrg looks like the floor is like 170 at least in this part of town
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
why is there KALE in my burrito
Anno
just go into show store, put old shoes in box, walk out with new ones ez
my roommate is more pissed than I am I was going to binge some show but that's about it
s c
Liar Game season 2 baby It's a fun show
Anno
i found a picture of what is essentially the same bed i slept on for all of 2014 this one's slightly different but close enough that you could mistake it it's crazy to think i slept on one of these for so long less crazy when you factor in the sheer amount of alcohol i consumed that year
>>986527 i think the only reason i got through that year was because i was either at work or drunk for basically all of it so while i remember it being really uncomfortable, and the cupholder thing digging into my back i don't really remember too much at all, so if my back was aching i was numb to it
autumn's herec so they were selling theice cream cartons at a discount at the store got a variety pack
s c
Might even get another variety pack Ice cream is in the freezer so it'll be good to go next summer hell I can eat it anytime, it doesn't need to be hot outside if it's hot inside
Anno
ice cream deito...
Anno
it's wine time
s c
I want some wine too~ Maybe I'll get some today
Anno
this 10$ bottle of wine is my favorite, moreso than much more "presitgious" or "sophisticated" ones not simply because of the price but because it's legit just really good
it's an american mass-market product, but i don't know that it'd be anywhere else aside from canada maybe
i wonder what the wine shelves look like in european markets >>986548 does your country sell alcohol in grocery stores or are there special alcohol stores
s c
I have never had wine outside of like, holidays when I lived with my dad, and also sometimes scampering about in the night and just stealing some while I lived with my dad, so I have no preference for brand He mostly bought box wine anyway
s c
>>986547 Only beer and cider in grocery stores We've got a government owned and operated liquor store for everything above like 4,7%
>>986549 oh wow i think more than half of the beers i buy regularly ("regularly") are more than that but i have a preference for belgian trippels, which are usually pretty alcoholic, 10+%
s c
It's a vestigial rule from the abolition times The solution to abolition was the government liquor store, sweden does the same
I usually just buy very strong stuff from the liquor store, though, if I buy cider or beer it's mostly cause I forgot or couldn't be bothered to go to the liquor store before it closed >>986554 Yeah, long time ago
Anno
you guys abolished alcohol too? the US did in like the 20's
Anno
there's still counties in some states that disallow alcohol above certain percents i lived in one that was surrounded by counties that didn't care so i always had to drive about 10 minutes to buy wine or liquor weird that they do that
s c
It's mostly just a case of it not being sufficiently politically expedient to run on changing it, I think
Anno
yeah, definitely there's a law in Texas that disalllows liquor stores from operating on Sunday, initially because it's the sabbath but it never changed and nowadays the biggest argument for not changing it is a pretty strong one - because it would suck for the workers, and the stores operate just fine the way they are so hopefully it stays that way
Rei@mobile
>>986557 you also can't buy garden hoses on sunday
s c
>>986557 the only stores at all open on sundays here are like, small kiosks and gas stations anyway everything's closed on sundays except a few select things
Rei@mobile
>>986559 jesus, that sounds horrible chik fila being closed on sunday is imconvenient enough
s c
It actually kinda slaps
Anno
>>986558 is this some sort of meme because it's definitely not true
Rei@mobile
>>986562 its something I heard as a kid that I never bothered questioning until now
Anno
>>986559 oh wow it's a business-by-business decision here some businesses thrive on weekend traffic and closing on sundays would be a bad idea others benefit more from having a consistent day off for staff, or are simply closed on weekends because other businesses they interact with are also closed most BUSINESS businesses are closed on weekends, but retail and food and service industry are very rarely closed on weekends
>>986602 just borrow a deck from someome at the store or the people who run the store people loan standard decks to new/returning players all the time
Anno
oh oki whats a good newbie one!
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
oh god these super monkey ball voicelines
yaho yaho yahoooh
yuyuko
guten morgen friends
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
h0i how's life in austria
yuyuko
probably like life in different european countries having my leisurely morning coffee, soon it's time I succumb to my corporate lifestyle duties getting colder around here though, we've lost the summer
yuyuko
I wanted to find a fancy alternative term for work but it ended up sounding retarded how's life in the states? (hopefully not misremembering)
yuyuko
>>986559 it's the same around here and I would agree it's good of course something as central to life as what happens every 7th day is very politically contested and parties like to play opposition by trying to change our sundays, often times not for the better
Anno
#d2 (1)
Anno
weehh
Mahou Shoujo Marsh-chan
>>986608 Well it's always in the last place you look
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>>986603 can you just play it so everyone has prepacked decks
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>>986609 life in canada is good it's gotten a lot colder already
Rei@mobile
back from the theater spending the nigjt at my friemd's place the movie was really good
what if that really awkward thing where you wake up before your friend does happens and you cant get out of bed cause you dont want to make any noise and you just have to lie there for an hour or so
Rei@mobile
>>986619 id just go on my phome or wake her up she said I could wake her up if I wake up before her
Anno
>her >"friend" how sly of you!
Rei@mobile
>>986621 I have female friends that I'm not romantically involved with.
Rei@mobile
night /moe/
Anno
N
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
O don't
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>if possible can I get a text 30 mins before delivery m8 you're dreaming
Mahou Shoujo Marsh-chan
>>986626 from an outsiders perspective that doesn't seem too unreasonable
yuyuko
listening to the hyouka drama CDs while working is an interesting experience why are drama CDs even made? it is honestly a pretty weird medium to be honest I suppose they're fun to listen to
yuyuko
>>986613 that's true, but sometimes it's hard not to be too lazy to look >>986615 wew lad, canada sounds cool, are you in one of the places that use french a lot? you canadians are probably resistant to the cold anyways, or at the very least a lot more resistant than us weak yuropoor yuropoors*
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>>986627 >texting a random stranger from you're own personal phone yeah makes sense
>>986573 >>986655 I can't get enough ajifunai505, please keep posting these
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>>986662 i think so the MC started the series off by failing her opportunity to become an idol because she's diseased so maybe it maybe its not actually
s c
>>986664 Seems like the setup for her becoming an idol despite the adversity
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
you never know
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
oh I was.wondering why it got so late so quick daylight savings just kicked in
!C0.PerkELE
>>>/watch?v=xzDblEqQ5J4 >>986667 oh yeah, the daylight nonsense that occurs in some places and in others not at all and never at the same time when it does
>>986653 is that true? how does that even work to be prosecuted by some guy
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>>986675 I don't know how they managed this one, but Chevron has been attacking this guy for more than a decade. He won a seriously massive judgment in Ecuador a long time ago that held Chevron responsible for like 30 years of contaminating indigenous people's lands. Since then, they've been harassing him, have had him disbarred, and created a lot of fake shit that led to him being under house arrest.
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
https://www.gregpalast.com/why-am-i-the-one-locked-up-and-not-chevron/ pretty wild sources, hard to tell if this is a crank or a real thing. gonna look for some primary sources wild story* sounds plauisble when it comes to the US and oil
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
https://theintercept.com/2020/01/29/chevron-ecuador-lawsuit-steven-donziger/ The intercept article has a lot of sources spanning back to 2009
oh yeah I heard about that guy saw some video of Chevron guys actively looking to find somewhere where they hadn't completely fucked the soil, too, to no avail
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\s c
I got some wine I haven't had wine in fucking forever
Hey rey
Rei@mobile
ohayou!
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ToNKirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
very white people
Rei@mobile
I was bittten by this cat earlier. according to her owner she sometimes likes to bite but I was not told that until after I was bitten.
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
nice dog
Rei@mobile
aside from the biting I'd rate the cat 7/10
Rei@mobile
>>986688 have you seen In the Mouth of Madness by John Carpenter?
月
>>986679 >decomposing to bones is just a joke. fuck i wish
s c
MOON! Hi how ya been?
月
hi sc not really
s c
Ah This is probably just my memory failing, but how'd the thing with that voicemail turn out? It's been forever since we really talked, and I'm not good at remembering stuff >>986695 Aw man, did kirara not figure out a way to record it properly or something? I vaguely remember you were gonna send it to him
月
i was able to manually record it by playing it through an aux cord in my car then recording it through the airspace it was very low-fidelity but better than nothing
still annoyed that there weren't real solutions available for that i had downloaded some apps that record calls, but they only record outgoing signals (your output) and incoming signals (the person on the other line), and since voicemails are a system message , it doesn't recognize it as either of those and it got omitted
i tried plugging it into my laptop and recording on audacity but that didn't even come close to working like i thought it would
anyway i was satisfied enough with the low-fidelity that i kept it and stopped worrying about it >>986694 yeah there's a "send this voicemail to another person" forwarding option in the voicemail menu i tried forwarding it to three different people and none of them got it one of them used the same service provider too and also didn't get it i don't really understand what went wrong with that but i'm not surprised since it's AT&T
s c
It's something at least, still kinda stinks you weren't able to get something better, since it seemed very imporatnt to you
s c
Weird that there isn't a "download voicemail" option, really When I get voicemails, which is really only from scammers but still, it's always just sent to me as a file
Rei@mobile
>>986697 I don't get voicemails because my mailbox has been full for like a decade. my "leave me a message" recording is like 14~ years old too.
s c
voicemails aren't like, a normal thing to leave here in the first place if you go to voicemail you just hang up and call again later
maybe if you're like a toddler but here voicemails are used by everyone especially when it comes to having a job like you wouldnt leave a friend a vm but pretty much anyone else you do
s c
If you so much as hear a custom voicemail recording, you're probably dealing with a fucking psychopath, tbh
s c
>>986705 See that makes sense in the era when everyone just had a landline and could be like, away for a while But nowadays you're either calling someone outside business hours or they're just taking a piss, because who has a landline other than boomers? Even boomers mostly don't anymore
ToN
i remember when i used to deal with covid voicemails and i was the only one who cleared them and would come in on monday and have to make like 40 outgoing calls
My dad hasn't had a landline for the last like, 7 years or some shit, most people just have a cell phone, even my grandma doesn't have a landline anymore It's just outdated and meaningless tech
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
apparently 40% of americans have a landline
besides landline was superior to cellphone
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
well, until landlines went totally digital
s c
Landlines are better for the opposite reason cell phones are better Cell phones are always available, which is a detriment in some contexts
月
i can tell SC has been spending a lot of time on twitter
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
landlines were great bc there wasn't an expectation that you'd even call back same day you could listen to the message as it was being recorded they were recorded on cassettes so you could save them it was great
the dnd group has yet to actually start lmao I shoulda just listened to dutchfriend and dipped out immediately rather than waiting as long as I did lmao
Rei@mobile
>>986732 yee >>986733 I'm pretty sure it does i read an article about it on vice so it must be true
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
corpses have feelings too okay stop itttt
s c
"unvaccinated" is a strange way to word it if you're talking about, specifically, antivaxxers and covid-deniers Not a lot of people out there mocking people who died prior to getting the vaccine because that's just where they were in the list
im starting my jojo game on tuesday i know 3/4 people have their charas done well, session 0 is on tuesday we're not technically playing yet
Rei@mobile
>>986738 noice are you gonna put prog rock on in the back ground?
s c
>>986738 they have their CHARACTERS DONE!? man that's STILL NOT THE CASE with this group
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>>986740 two of my players had their characters done within a day of saying they'd play one of them took two weeks but thats fine one of them is working on theirs but theyre really busy and they have the tombstone unveiling for their dad this week so they might not have their chara done which will be fine
s c
lucky desu ne desu ne
Rei@mobile
>>986738 on the subject of jojo I'm planning on listening to Tarkus later today
s c
>>986741 they've let you know though, right you already know You know you don't need to try to get stuff ready this week
ToN
i might be acutely aware of the person who took a significant amount of time to get ready that person might even have some other things to finish even though they are malleable
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>>986744 on tuesday we're just going to go through the characters, develop parts of the setting together, and establish connections between the characters so theres really nothing to get ready but if we wanted to start right this second i could
>>986751 the only thing i need really is how the characters know each other but even without that i could throw something together to get a starting session
s c
maybe you've got a different approach, since I was kinda just thrust into it and had to make stuff from scratch, and kinda needed the players to fill in some blanks to GENERATE SOME FUCKING STORY FOR ME TO WORK WITH BUT THEY NEVER BOTHERED TO GIVE A GODDAMN ABOUT ANY OF IT
Rei@mobile
>>986754 I usually dont do much background story and leave it vague I had a dm that would basically create family/friend npcs and hold them hostage to force my character to do things so I have all my characters be from the continent I control in the campaign setting
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
My approach is essentially 1. Come up with a story idea 2. Build a setting to accommodate it 3. Put the rest of the story together 4. Adjust whatever is necessary for the players to make themselves home in the world 5. Adjust things as we go along to match the themes the players are coming up with to keep a unified narrative that we build together
s c
THERE ARE STILL PLAYERS RIGHT NOW WHO HAVEN'T GENERATED A FUCKING CHARACTER
s c
I wanted to plop the players down and have like, a short story with a few threads to pull on, but incorporate their backstories so there were motivating factors for everyone and maybe they'd like, have a small arc or the beginning of an arc for a possible extention of the story But NOBODY GAVE ME ANYTHING NOBODY
Rei@mobile
>>986758 if you played traveller they wouldnt even need to make up a backstory you'd just randomly generate it the best part of that is that in traveler characters can die during character creation!
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
I just incorporate their backstories as I go. So for example, there's no mafia in the setting, but if a player decided they were on the run from the mafia, I would just add in a mafia so we could use their backstory.
s c
But I didn't wanna randomly generate stuff I had like, a plot I wanted to see unfold
Rei@mobile
>>986761 have you considered getting players who have actually played d&d before onstead of twitter randos?
ToN
There was no mafia in my setting either until Jan was a member of one good times
s c
>>986762 The situation here was kinda special in that someone just wanted to get a group together for another person, and I volunteered to be the DM if nobody else would But then I and one other person turned out to be the only ones who fucking cared, so I jumped ship
Rei@mobile
>>986763 the mafia in a D&D campaign I played in broke my characters legs for not throwing a race
s c
>>986760 I GAVE THEM CARTE BLANCHE! I JUST NEEDED SOMETHING
>>986766 You've just got bad players! I'm more experienced so I know what I'm looking for and am in a position to scout players.
!C0.PerkELE
>>986770 doubt I think it would have been "Seffie SMASH"
s c
Clearly, but I wanted to make it work because I wanna DM But at some point it was screwing what little bit of a facade of mental health I've got so I fucking dipped
s c
I don't handle it too well when it seems like me being part of something is the reason other people don't wanna And I've probably got some level of paranoia so that works hard to make that happen
!PAN/yhxnGc
kirara is in a position to scout players and he still picked me up for a jojo campaign what an idiot
!C0.PerkELE
>>986759 I think best part is also a bit annoying part too
Rei@mobile
>>986777 its really funny I probably wouldnt remember anything about that game if not for that
CARPET BUT IT IS INSIDE RUG FOLDER .asd.asdf.asd I spent 20 minutes looking over all my folders
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
carpet is wall-to-wall rugs arent
ToN
i admit i search carpet and get rugs and use them for rugs in campaign
s c
you guys make really indepth maps, huh
ToN
i usually do shapes and then put some decorations on them pk is autism yeah
!C0.PerkELE
I am autism about maps
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
Ideally, I won't even make a map. For some games, you need them. But for my Jojo game, for example, I'm only going to have some basic encounter maps for when positioning and stuff is actually important. The majority of the time, I'll just describe the room.
Rei@mobile
>>986791 so is my autistic dm for the game I'm playing today
s c
why would you make a map for anything other than places where a battle may take place, and why would ya put stuff that isn't mechanically relevant in there? >>986795 ya've got a mouth!
ToN
immersion exploration
Rei@mobile
>>986794 everything can be mechanically relevant if you are a good player/gm
ToN
if i give out every point of interest then how will they look for a key without immediately finding it
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
I agree with SC! >>986797 they look around and see some boxes
s c
You can just go like "you see a lot of weird paintings, and there's a door that has a very shiny, brass-like lock mechanism attached. Additionally, there's a colorful, soft-looking rug across the floor" >>986800 Brass has a distinct color
well obviously however you wana do it is your choice, I just think it seems like a waste of energy when you could just skip it If there isn't a fight likely to take place, the map isn't much use
ToN
when i dont have a physical map i get called lazy
!PAN/yhxnGc
by kirara no less
s c
You can just draw it freehand for yourself though, have it on your actual desk for reference
!C0.PerkELE
if you take this spider den for example, much of the innards are useless props, but I like them there they are atmospheric
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
digital maps arent physical ton you never have a physical map
!PAN/yhxnGc
that's not true sometimes he draws maps on paper remember sully's house that was a physical map he drew and slapped the picture of it on
like if anything, I'd probably feel it was sort of a hassle if everything had its own map, as a play er but I've never BEEN a player
A map for combat encounters that last more than a round or two is important, though, for XCOM reasons, but for just LORE stuff, it seems meaningless
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
Making maps is a pain More work than its worth I won't spend more than a few minutes on any map
I'll even buy a map if it saves me time
!C0.PerkELE
Yeah, imagine making a detailed inn for the players to prolly use, but then they torch it to the ground
!PAN/yhxnGc
i like have maps for at least spacial context like the uh training arc with First Empress was a fine map for what i needed it was just a bunch of blue and some doors but it gave the information needed of "this is the layout of rooms, hallways, etc "
!C0.PerkELE
in the end a map just needs to give information on where you are, where you can go, and such everything else is just additional work
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>NOT // not just using professionally made maps
s c
see that's way too much Why the fuck would you need that if your campaign isn't likely to have a fight there?
ToN
it looks nice tho
!PAN/yhxnGc
intrigue things to roleplay with DM not having to say "it looks just like that last room" six times every time you go through one of the doors to tablepillow room
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>having places where there wouldnt be a fight honestly the first thing you need to know about DMing is that your players will fight everyone and anyone whether you have a stat block for them or not
s c
>>986837 OK but you can deal with that as the DM I mean maybe I'm the odd one out, but I don't even want to DM for murderhobos I'd rather just throw my hands up and go "naw, whatever" and press the disconnect button on discord
!PAN/yhxnGc
i still never got to fight megane :(
ToN
heh
ToN
i have definitely wanted to hit the d/c button a couple times myself ngl
s c
I will just fucking do it I'm not playing a game with people who don't want me to have fun
ToN
i remember when someone killed an old man, defiled his corpse, and convinced a guard to fuck off players can be chaotic even within the bounds of what you might expect
s c
BUt then, again, maybe I demand too much of players or just in general, of people
ToN
on the more interesting side your players can go "we like this npc theyre ours now" and essentially turn one off characters into party friends and/or pets. >>986846 also this
i cannot believe youre taking Carla home
!PAN/yhxnGc
sometimes it happens to antagonists
s c
>>986845 >>986846 both of those are fine though Like those are good
But murderhobos don't suck because it makes the game shitty for the other players, they suck because it makes the DM no different from the enemy dropper in Madness Interactive
ToN
yeah its in the more interesting side
murderhobos ruin things for everyone though actually wait yeah pan's right his was good plot centric murder hoboing is fine
!PAN/yhxnGc
sometimes your DM turns you into a murderhobo by giving you sword that gains power from blood sometimes that backfires on the DM worse when you murderhobo a bunch of people in a train who were actually yokai in disguise
s c
>>986849 I will still cancel the game if the players take that and go "i'm gonna kill everyone :)" I don't fucking care, and I HAVE items like that in my ~LoRe~
sometimes your players will have a character so depraved they kill every orphan in a city as part of a punchline but youre just sitting there horrified because it's in line with their existing behavior
s c
I guess what I want is a REASONABLY grounded game with characters who aren't just fucking LUNATICS or SAINTS Just like, people navigating what I have prepared
!PAN/yhxnGc
if this weapon gets stronger with blood i will collect all the blood i gain for more power power corrupts
ToN
except the blood that tastes bad like Tsu
s c
>>986854 Unless I already specified, OR your character backstory indicates you'd make that choice, that the weapon makes you do that, I'll just call the game off and tell you to find a different DM If I made the item do that, obviously that's what I wanted, if it's congruent with your backstory you bet it's what I wanted Otherwise, you just looked for an excuse to ruin the game for me
!PAN/yhxnGc
i took it too bet
ToN
yeah but you didnt want more so we're cool
ToN
kirara absolutely made the item like that
!PAN/yhxnGc
Technically it didn't make Noto do it Noto just did it Which is where another important factor comes in for this example >>986856 Backstory only matters so far Per backstory, Noto wouldn't have used a sword like I had in Kirara's campaign because his backstory started him with a different goal >>986861 More understandable, I just consider backstory the pre-campaign Everything during is current development But also the thing about weapons like that are that depending on how quickly it grows it'll reasonably create a strong desire to keep feeding it more Hence, power corrupts You get the taste and you just want more
s c
backstory is everything up until the current moment AFAIC
s c
>>986860 If it's congruent with your character's changing personality over the course of the campaign, obviously that's what I wanted, and at worst it's on me I'm not gonna call something off because something didn't go how I wanted, obviously
But if up until that point your character was a goody two shoes and then they started killing every NPC they encountered after getting a sword that simply got better per kill, I'd call it off Because I'm just not interested in that game anymore
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>>>/@Jebailey/1444404026875985930 alex jebailey got rear ended on a highway overpass today by some hit and run asshole destroy all cars
Kirara 🍄 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
i made it for pan because i knew pan would do it
ToN
remember when you gave pan a cursed sword and he immediately turned around and dropped me to the floor with it
s c
SEE?
Kirara 🍄 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>>986865 i gave him that bc i knew he would do that especially if i gave him permission (:
ToN
hahaha
!PAN/yhxnGc
IN MY DEFENSE I ROLLED TO SEE IF I'D HIT HIM OR ARCHIE BECAUSE I WAS POSSESSED BY A SWORD IN THE END NOBODY STOPPED ME BEFORE I HIT BOTH
ToN
it was kind of winwin
s c
>I did it because the DM told me to Like I said, obviously what the DM wanted
ToN
told him to is a strong word, more like allowed
!PAN/yhxnGc
Technically his words were like "you can attack the party you're possessed" or something and I specifically singled out ToN and his favorite NPC
s c
and it was what the DM wanted
ToN
Archibald... he no longer exists only Soen
Kirara 🍄 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
i mostly just try to give the characters the opportunities to do what they want i knew pan would enjoy that
!PAN/yhxnGc
okay his exact words were "the new sword forces you to attack your friends" but noto doesn't have any friends or didn't have any friends at the time, anyway >>986876 Noto could never truly be given what he wanted sadly
Anno
Noto the eponymous friendless virgin
!PAN/yhxnGc
woah he's got two wives ty
Anno
At the time at least Just like how he's got friends now
Kirara 🍄 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
noto has at least two wives and one of his wives sister follows them around
!PAN/yhxnGc
and she won't stop talking about bugs who knows how many more wives noto could have
Kirara 🍄 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
anyway murderhobos are the worst but there's very few characters that don't pick fights with NPCs more often than they should
!PAN/yhxnGc
There's at least a difference, too, between picking fights with NPCs and murdering them
Anno
Also you can, like, make things not fun for the players for a bit, like have them be chased by an angry mob of people who liked the person the players murdered, or by the local guard/ armed forces And spell it out in no uncertain terms it's because they're now wanted murderers Like punishment as a tool for education sucks, but sometimes players need to be bonked on the head to get it through that cruelty has ramifications
ToN
pan and dad can you give me a recent example of you guys bugging someone you shouldnt have
Kirara 🍄 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
ive never done such a thing
ToN
oh my mistake then
!PAN/yhxnGc
yeah kirara and i have never we're justice noto tried to fight kurisu every time she showed up, but that's because we were told to kill anyone who saw us on our mission lee tried to fight people if he thought they were strong, but he also asked for a fight not just started swinging alack and cordell started a lot of fights in 1.0 but they were asshole soldiers
!C0.PerkELE
in 3.0 there has been surprisingly little wanton murder
Anno
Noto's biggest crime in addition to being ugly was that he was kind of almost autistically literal
!C0.PerkELE
end result
!PAN/yhxnGc
>>986891 Gotta do what you gotta do to keep sane in a party like that he had no choice had to devote himself down to the letter
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>>986890 thanks to elle making sure it doesnt happen
!C0.PerkELE
and the moment she wasn't around >hey tavianno, wanna feed these animal girls each other?
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
yeah you ate people as soon as elle wasnt around to keep you in line and you tricked an NPC into eating people too
!C0.PerkELE
very hard to be a chaos space marine without getting your head lobbed off
!C0.PerkELE
uuuu the rightside carpet is bit too short compared to the left
I drank too much, kinda just woke up again though I didn't sleep I hope I didn't say anything bad here, but I figured I'd at least give a sign of life cause I think I left in the middle of something
>>986970 Not that it matters because CCP, but in any other situation I feel there would be a good argument as to what actually constitutes a moral choice between good and evil
someone in my runescape clan was like >any aussies keen for the gf tonight? and im like.. 'gf'.. 'I don't have one of those'. But I looked it up. and i guess it's also shorthand for Grand Final. So I guess there's some sort of sports event??
fuark checked up on the game score 14-12 in favour of panthers close game
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
oof rip rabbits if they had snuck a try in they could've
Anno
i saved a bunch of images of vtubers
AnnoAnnoAnnoAnno/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
oooh baby
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
love 2 alive
Rei@mobile
Ohayou!
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
hiya
Kirara 🍄 大医 /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\s c
something went wrong with my bannerlord
s c
cursed game
This isn't a result of some mod, I haven't even downloaded a mod for this so far
Anno
>>>/@CBCNews/1444648449115365378 ;_; Robert Munsch's kids' books are great, out of all the books I was read and read when I was really young, Munsch's are some of the ones I can still remember almost wholly to this date They're goofy, they're not written to have moral lessons for kids (usually), and they're just fun I hope in his twilight years his dementia doesn't hurt him too much And I hope his stories are the last thing to go
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>>987024 you ever been to a sonics the place where you eat in your car
happy labour dya btw I got called into work last night to work this morning pub hol money
Rei@mobile
>>987044 I think labour day on the first monday of october is just an australian thing most of the world does it may 1 the US does it in september happy labour day to you though
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
yeah I figured it was different in most places just merely acknowledging the day here
>>987084 I genuinely think there's some sort of impotus in left-leaning spaces to develop more and more insane beliefs and actually embodying the right wing paranoid charicature of seeing racism and fascism everywhere around you I don't know where it comes from, but I suspect it's some sort of spiral where "new takes" gets you likes, so you get incrementally more deranged over time
s c
(That said, fash are somewhat famous for having asian wives, which is Weird and whatever, but it's obviously not enough to justify this kinda stuff)
s c
I might even be part of the problem myself, but I hope not I'm definitely drifting into a "pattern recognizer" mindset over time
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
can't remember the last time i won this quick
s c
>>987090 I know 900ish is still like, kinda bad in the grand scheme of things, but how does one end up like this as white?
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
ive been stuck around 900 for a while now im just built that way slightly below your average chess.com player also, almost always drunk hahahah so that's my excuse also i suck at 5 min and usually die to time pressure so its nice to get a quick win like this once in a while
anyway to answer your question, we scrubs at 900 blunder all the time they shouldn't have taken with the queen
s c
I mean I don't even know where I am in chess ELO, I don't have the attention span to actually play chess I expect I'm like, really, really, really low, like maybe 500
s c
I should get back into CSGO to have something to do tbh I used to be gooooood!
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
play me in chess get your adrenaline PUMPIN
s c
dude I'm shitfaced
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
I should cut off my nose become anime girl
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
who cares ill play a bad opening https://play.chess.com/XgBw3
that was one of the most wack chesses i ever played
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
hahha good shit
s c
I can't even get the analysis cause I ain't got an account Was I fucking up the whole time?
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
you uh may have blundered some pieces hahah
s c
To be expected Like I said, it's not gonna be a good match I forgot there was a clock after like 3 moves, man
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\s c
>still nearly the same accuracy
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
how about a ten minute game then
s c
honestly I wouldn't even do better I'd already lost by the time it ran out You had more pawns and pieces overall
s c
Maybe tomorrow if I'm still sober by the time you start playing though, could be fun >>987113 Mostly it's just a matter of getting to me before I crack open the booze I've got maybe like a liter of wine and a liter of vodka available, and knowing me, I'm gonna be drinking as soon as it feels right
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
:) hit me up if you feel like sparrin again
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
im on my second belgian tripel rn i need foooooood
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
that's a lot of vodka
s c
>>987115 I always maximize the $:alcohol ratio when I buy booze, unless I'm buying something specific And the plastic 1L kalinkas are the best value for just straight booze I haven't cracked the bootle yet tho, I've just been drinking wine But it's a lotta wine
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
kalinka baybee idk never had it but ive had some pure vodkas so i imagine it's literally the same substance
s c
Dude, if you buy Kalinka for ANY other reason than the alcohol content, you're fucking up It's shit, tastes like poison, only good for mixing and getting absolutely hammered It's 40% potato alcohol You mix it with OJ and it's good stuff, or if you're a lunatic you drink it straight, which is OK with some ice I guess Vodka with ice is surprisingly not that bad
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
oh jeez i dont drink much vodka tbh these days mostly either tequila/margs or negronis
s c
vodka and rum are what I primarily drink, cause I mix it with sugary stuff like juice and cola I don't really like the taste of alcohol, but like I've probably said a lot of times while out of my mind, I genuinely, sincerely, hate being sober So when I drink, I'm really just trying to get really drunk And once I tip a certain point I lose control and I get fucked up
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
margs are my favorite the best cocktail worth messin around with limes for
s c
margaritas are p good, but I dunno how to make them, and also I don't have margarita glasses, and those are kinda part of the Good Part You need the salt and the whatever
I DO wanna make vodka ice cubes sometime though Well, jello cubes, but still
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
i just put them in a whisky tumbler no salt two shots tequila one shot orange liqueur one squeezed lime and a big ice cube
s c
what the FUCK is a whisky tumbler
ToN
its a tumbler for whisky as in a container meant to contain it
s c
The only tumbler I know about is for cryptocoins! Is it like those two cups bartenders put on top of eachother and shake?
honestly i just use a one hitter these days cuz i cant handle shit so its hand crumbles
s c
it's probably just preference, but I kinda like just cutting it up with scissors in a shotglass Probably wasteful tbh, but it still means the uh... dust or whatever gets included in all but the first joint
But I haven't had the money to buy weed for OVER A YEAR
I don't even know if they guy I've relied on for wee in the past is still in that shit
s c
weed, as well
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
the guy from that one gig you had? where the weed was weird and you cut with scissors
s c
oh no, different guy but I also know him through the same place
I've always cut my weed with scissors It's never been weird though?
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
oh right cutting like probably is common I've seen someone else do it I don't smoke so I don't know much about weeds >>987159 no I mean the stuff was weird I dunno why but when you mentioned cutting with scissors I remembered that certain guy from that time
s c
I don't own a grinder, and getting one is a hassle
s c
>>987160 if I've given the impression the weed I got was weird, it's probably cause if I mix anything with it, I get completely messed up and puke my guts out
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
maybe it was an oil idk
s c
iunno I sometimes got hash instead of weed, which lasts longer cause it's more concentrated, but you gotta use less at a time
i want to sip coffee in the glass-windowed sitting room of a mountainside lodge, a few meters from a lit fireplace, with a volume of the K-ON! manga on the table in front of me, and rachmaninoff playing from a bluetooth speaker nearby
Anno
Sir, this is an Arby's
Anno
oh let me get uhh roast beef cheddar curly fries large water
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
/moe/ lodge when
we'd get a record player too
Anno
i can't wait for the winter i hope we get a snowy day again this year snow is pretty rare here but we had it twice (two times!) in the last year
it's as though i haven't had these feelings in a while they're almost new again, with the discomfort that brings so long i lived every day like this, i think it's hard to remember now i'm sure it will pass so maybe i should savor the melancholy while it visits
I was watching the norm podcast and they made a joke was almost like it was from the hard times >I wouldn't call myself a fan of steampunk but I will say it's the healthiest way to prepare punk
I get that I think it takes a while to grow for him to grow on you** he hasn't realeased much matierial lately which is strange...
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
oh he died I didn't even know he was sick
Mahou Shoujo Marsh-chan
People really need to stop dying.
Rei@mobile
>>987370 wait you didnt know he died? i thought that was >>987377 :(
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
no I was joking it's a line from the podcast I wouldn't call it prophetic but uh
Anno
hi marsh i'm gonna say it again today
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>>987376 he had a monologue on hitler went something like >this hitler guy sounds terrible we should really do something >well actually he died in the 1940s >he died? I didn't even know he was sick
Mahou Shoujo Marsh-chan
>>987377 Why would you make an inside joke about something I just told you I didn't know about
oh nice i haven't tried the new one yet i don't even remember when it switched, it has right? the low-tide high-tide one was annoying but easy this one sounded annoying too
Mahou Shoujo Marsh-chan
Yeah. It just changed again recently.
shockingly the best way to get through the newer ones is to have rolled for the newest 5 star character in the gacha. Lots of fire and there's a poison, damage-over-time mechanic so you need double healers
Anno
hmmm will diona on my ayaka team and noelle on my other team work? will it be hard to use yanfei on team noelle, will i have to use keqing oh god please no
yuyuko
how can you guys play gachas? isn't it too life-consuming? genuinenly curious
Anno
keqing is probably my favorite exploring/overworld unit but she isn't so great in domains or abyss
Anno
>>987406 almost all of the year, it's an optional 30 minutes a day every now and then there's events where there's more game to play and it's usually nice when it happens but it's not really that all-consuming the urge to spend money only really comes when there's a particularly cool character that comes out or something but it's also so not worth it in terms of how expensive rolls are that it's easy to just prefer f2p
Mahou Shoujo Marsh-chan
>>987406 I'd kind of like to have my life consumed.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
whenever I think keqing I think jelqing kegels maybe a cross between a two
yuyuko
>>987409 okay I see, that doesn't sound too life-consuming, although if I was actually having fun I'm not sure I could watch my habit stay 30min a day only >>987410 lmao that's fair
do you guys keep track of how much you've already spent on gachas?
interesting, 300 is really not a whole lot so who cares I've met people with really compulsive personalities however and I wouldn't trust them to keep it a small habit or control their budget >>987422 how does one spend over 300 on DnD? I thought you buy a book and that's it lol
>>987420 yeah i mean in relative terms it's more than i've spent on all but like 3 or 4 games but also it's less than i've spent on DnD or warhammer and i barely even play those
Rei@mobile
>>987421 my dad is sick of it he said he heard it too much when it came out
Rei@mobile
>>987422 ive spent like $80~ on warhammer D&D uhjj maybe $100 but im distinguishing D&D from other rpgs
>>987420 i've purchased 3 PHB's one DMG monster manual volo's storm king all 5e and then a few grid mats dice some minis pens notebooks markers etc i'm sure i've spent like 500ish total including like two years of a roll20 sub
yuyuko
>>987424 oh I see I see >>987428 damn, that's a lotta stuff makes me a bit jelly although I would need to build a network of dnd enjoyers to use all of that
>>987429 not everyone who plays D&D enjoys it me for example
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
>>987432 maybe my sense of that is skewed my parents were 18 when they had my sister then again 14 or whatever is now pretty common
yuyuko
>>987433 are you stuck playing? can you not just canonically die within your groups storyline? >>987436 that's a valid reason, but it's an odd one to justify playing at all I would go to such lengths too to spent time with good friends after all
Rei@mobile
>>987435 im not stuck playing a friend of mine is running a campaign and I play it because I want to hamg out with him i meam i guess I enjoy it but im sick of D&D
Rei@mobile
>>987434 that's kind of fucked up i dont know all the details but that sounds a bit irresponsible
none of my dms have ever owned more than one someone else always brought one
Anno
when you end up DM'ing for a lot of casuals or people who are new to it having extra PHB's is really nice and particularly helpful for group character creating sessions which you also gotta consider can end up being like a third or even half of the experience for people who might not get more than a few sessions into a campaign
some of my bias towards 5e is also because of this
Ive always considered GMing a pain in the ass so I rarely do it when I do its just one off sessions with modules usually dcc rpg occassionally 3.5
Anno
it's definitely a pain but it's exceedingly fulfilling when you're able to get the right group of people but also i tend to go hard in the motherfucking paint i go on a worldbuilding rampage
Rei@mobile
>>987451 keeping track of an entire world is a pain in the ass I cant remember everything and I suck at note taking
Anno
roll20 and a few composition notebooks go a long way
Anno
honestly roll20 was extremely instrumental in running a strong campaign for me
before that, i just had a bunch of posterboards and notebooks for all my maps and everything >>987456 i could see that pnp also sucks for 3.5 in my opinion keeping track of 3.5 is rough too
Rei@mobile
cool roll20 really sucks for 3.5 btw its decent for GURPS though
i do recognize what they were trying to do with 4 i mean on the business side, they were just being the greediest wotc's ever been imo but on the game side, i do mostly see 5e as 4 but instead of doing everything wrong they did things mostly right
Rei@mobile
i will never forgive them for switching to forgotten realms as the default setting though
>>987479 oh now as far as that goes i should also note that my opinion on editions mostly exists on their overall gameplay framework and numbers systems as well as the amount of available content and data sheets the lore is somewhat less important to me because i tend to throw literally all of that out of the window and make my own
Rei@mobile
>>987482 i'm not going to discuss my opinions about the rules right now cause I havent read the 5e rules in years
but by switching from greyhawk it feels like theyre abandoning the origins of D&D greyhawk was the default setting for decades because it was originally Gygax's campaign setting almost every spell with a name in the form X's Y was named after a character played by someone in Gygax's campaign so throwing all that away felt really disrespectful and alienating
Rei@mobile
oh also they did all that but kept Vecna?
Rei@mobile
and I think Acererak
Rei@mobile
oh also i cant think of forgotten realms without thinking of all the creepy perverted sex stuff from Ed Greenwood's books that is still canon because WotC never released anything stating otherwise.
>>987496 >>987485 yeah like i said i don't really mess with any of the pre-written lore or whatever to me, most of the fun of DM'ing comes from creating all that stuff well maybe almost half running the campaign or one-shot itself is also really fun
but most of the self-satisfaction comes from the creation creating characters and nations and politics and geographies and places and magics and all that juicy stuff
for me using the stuff already written is less fun i guess good for filling in gaps >>987511 what kind of orc chieftan are these the kinds of orcs that actually have some kind of organization in their society, or is the heirarchy just "strongest orcs leads" we could have anything from a sliding income tax to "give me your food or my goons beat you because i feel like it"