> the Department of Commerce (Commerce) today announced prohibitions on transactions relating to mobile applications (apps) WeChat and TikTok to safeguard the national security of the United States.
ykno its funny when i was livin in NY i went to a hot pot place and they were renting out batteries to charge your phone while you dine in and eat but the whole rental thing was in chinese and you could only pay with WeChat i was like "surely this is not legal but who cares i guess"
Anno
fuckis WeChat?
Anno
oh it's a social media app but you can also pay for shit with it
>"The entire infotainment system is a HTML 5 super computer," Milton said. "That's the standard language for computer programmers around the world, so using it let's us build our own chips. And HTML 5 is very secure. Every component is linked on the data network, all speaking the same language. It's not a bunch of separate systems that somehow still manage to communicate."
i'm going to fucking scream
Anno
>HTML 5 SUPER COMPUTER
Kirara 🍄 ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
THE STANDARD LANGUAGE FOR COMPUTER PROGRAMMERS AROUND THE WORLD HTML 5
VERY SECURE
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
>>875368 not if i delete them FIRST >>875370 incroyable! oo lalalala!
i cannot believe how much money i lost this week trying to short this absolute fraud of a company
This one comic is like over a decade old and REMAINS perpetually relevant.
Kirara 🍄 ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
i am honestly scared to think that there will be tractor trailers on the road which run on fucking HTML 5 like i barely trust HTML5 on a website let alone on the road
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
they're gonna have a chromebook lying underneath the engine running chrome 77 with one html5 <video> tag of the front view camera and another <audio> tag of morse code of the driving instructions bam autopilot
Anno
>>875375 Honestly I think it's fine. HTML 5 is pretty robust and can probably do all the information display you need from your car's UI. It's not like they're running navigational calculations through an HTML 5 script ... probably. It's just gonna be how they handle the information display.
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
html5 isn't a script! it doesn't do calculations!!
Anno
Hence why it won't!
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
ya but you hedged at the end there didnt ja
Anno
It was half a joke half I don't actually know what HTML 5 is really I don't pay attention to comp sci stuff.
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
monday news: html <autopilot> tag approved by W3C
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
my physical copy of mario 3d all stars arrived should i even remove the shrink wrap or just stash it in a drawer
Anno
I dunno it's a limited run you'd probably be able to re-sell at a premium And the games don't really seem to be an improvement over the originals.
Kirara 🍄 ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
buyin up mario 3d all stars to sell in a year
Mahou Shoujo Marsh-chan
Apparently there's a tiktok going around of a guy vaping his own cum.
well, I can't affect this shit anyway, so i'm just gonna go sleep a lot and be happy I'm in Norway, which is somehow or other relatively unfucked in comparison
i gotta find a place to buy fabric but not by like the spool when i try to buy it online everything is like "100 feet of fabric!" bitch i need like 5 feet
Anno
You'd probably need a crafts store and get it cut by request.
Kirara 🍄 ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
yeah probably never done it before
Anno
Probably like going to the deli, only instead of buying grams of meat you're buying feet of fabric. Especially since there'll probably pandemic restrictions on fingering fabric freely.
I guess backtracking the backtrack from before. I mean that's what I expected though. Playstation and Final Fantasy games have been friends with benefits since they went 3D.
>>875475 I thought the problem was that he's a good person but not a great boyfriend
FormerRei@mobile
I don't know about that, can you think if anyone else who walks his girlfriend home gently? Although I never got past Nadeko Medusa so maybe I just never got far enough.
I actually got the "sell me this pen" thing at the job interview, so now I'm gnna watch Wolf of Wall Street again, if for no other reason than to sate my need to know how that shook out in the movie I did it so poorly in retrospect, dumb as hell, but I ended up getting the job so it doesn't matter I'm just curious now
Is MAL dying? if you go to the 'recommended' tab most of the shows are from 3+ years ago
Anno
Maybe it's because these three more recent years have been SHIT
No not really. As someone who has watched like at least two thirds of a season there hasn't been a notable drop in quality in shows overall. Just more shows. People might think nostalgia makes older stuff better than newer stuff but honestly there's still plenty of good new stuff.
It's probably just that there are bigger communities than MAL for talking about anime.
>>875522 It's more that the first 3 harem shows you watch are fun, but after that each one will be less novel And the same for really anything
When you're new into anime, most of the shit you watch is just a lot more exciting cause you haven't been watching a ton of it for years already, you're not dropping over half of each season before it even starts So older shows have higher ratings given to them from when they aired, and anime wasn't as mainstream as now
That and also nostalgia, for sure
Anno
I've been watching seasonal anime longer than most anime fans have been I'd wager and I still don't drop anything that's at least not excessively egregiously bad.
I'd wager you're the exception tho I've been at this shit since like 2007 or something, and no fucking way am I checking out even half of a season Most of it is just stuff that I already know doesn't appeal to me
Anno
The fact that you "already know" it doesn't appeal to you is just plain ego though. And going into a show assuming you're going to not enjoy it is just setting it up for a self-fulfilling prophecy. Of course you're going to look to confirm your biases.
Hell I'd have dropped Lucky Star and K-On now, before episode 1 airs Not cause they're bad, but because I've seen so much of it >>875529 Fuck you I love both of those shows
I'm confident enough in my filtering if you name 2 shows I've actually pre-emptively dropped, and I enjoy them, I'll just stop dropping anything that isn't a sequel >>875533 Why the fuck would I CHEAT at this
as though you were gonna say anything other than a roundabout accusation of me deciding not to like the show as some bullshit form of ego preservation I'm capable of going into an anime with an open mind y'know
I gotta talk to my councerllor about whether there's even any point in keeping up my spot at this grocery store, beyond the paid shifts I get, now that I have an actual job waiting I don't wanna work 24 hours a week for 0 monies if there's like... no benefit I don't even dislike it, I just hate getting up in the morning to go to a job I'm just running out the clock on now Hell, I like sitting at the cash register and stuff, it's kinda fun
You get to talk to people, you get to know the regulars fairly well, I pick out people's smokes and stuff when I see them enter so they're at my little desk when they come to pay for their stuff I like it
But now that I have actual employment waiting for me in a month, I kinda just wanna like Sleep in, ya know? Not get up at fucking 6 AM and shit
And those are 12 hour shifts? Do ya at least make bank?
ToN
i only work three days a week so it works out i get like 13-ish usd per hour, so its not bad and once i dont have to deal with the old position work i still have to do itll go back to being super good right now i gotta deal with all the corona scheduling not all of it but im in that group and im not even part of that department anymore
what kinda rent are you at, anyway? I know price of living is lower in the US but you're getting paid... less than I will, excluding commissions
ToN
i still live with mom but our rent is cheap anyway way less than like kirara's and stuff its like 420 usd so its manageable with what ive got i just wish mom didnt want me to pay for cable
Oh that's cheap as hell, tho I assume you pay for power and internet and stuff separately I pay like 880 USD ish a month, but internet, power and stuff is included
ToN
yeah those are all separate internet and cable is like 170 which is why i reaaaaally wish she didnt want cable power hovers around 100 on the hotter months
Tho I'll probably move, so I dnno what my rent will look at in like, 4-5 months time If this is something I end up being good at, it just doesn't make sense to stay in this... second floor of an old lady's house apartment Can't even do my laundry and dished at the same time here
Besides I wanna live somewhere I can set up a speaker system and blast my music I don't even play games that much anymore, having a headset as my only sound output is annoying now cause I can't listen to music and stuff while walking around the apartment
Thankfully, my everything-is-temporary brain hasn't alowed me to fully unpack here, so moving won't be that painful other than a few things I'll have to dismantle my desk, my deposit is probably gone but I expected that to begin with, and the washing machine will require like, probably paying someone to move it >>875558 Jesus
I pay $1300 per month on rent and water. I pay $80-100 per month on electric, depending on whether it's summer or not. I pay $99 per month on internet.
>>875559 My apartment is decent, if I stepped down into a worse one, I would probably only be paying $1100 per month, though.
>>875560 All of my youtube videos have been filmed at work.
In the future when I make videos, I'll be making them at home, though. Since I'll be revamping my office and giving my a place to do it. I have like three rooms in my apartment. One bedroom, one living room/kitchen, and then a small loft above the kitchen which I use as an office.
Sounds about the same as mine Tho mine is fairly small It's like 50m2, give or take a little bit, no loft but I have a small storage cot kinda inside the wall by my living room Where like, a solid 3/4ths of all my stuff is, and has been since i moved in
Turns out, most of the shit I own is just stuff I keep without a purpose
I'm not in a great location or anything. It's nice that it's out of the way, but I'm literally on the border between two cities. If I walk a mile in one direction, I'll cross into another city. There's really nothing special near me. I still have to drive 20-30 minutes to get to the places where life actually goes on.
I mean I live in a tiny factory town with a small mall and grocery stores The only reason anyone even pays to live here is the fucking enormous factory area where tonnes of people work Hell, I'm probably overpaying to live here, but I also kinda had to move the fuck out
It's 15 minutes to like, the actual city though It's not a city by american standards I guess, but outside the really big cities here, it's a city
Oh, it's small here, too. It's big by my standards but 70k people is the biggest city I've ever lived in. People only live here because there are a lot of defense contractor manufacturing jobs and the space industry here.
Where I grew up, we only had like 10k people, and you can't rent apartments there because there aren't any in the entire town.
In any case, the rent is really expensive here. Far more expensive than it should be. In another city this size, I would probably be paying a lot less.
Hell, ToN lives in a pretty big city compared to me. Where he lives, there's like a million people or something, and his rent is way less than mine.
ToN
uh my city only appears to have 20k people as of 2018
It is in terms of process In video game scamming, you never try to convince anyone of shit, you just sift through and dip every time someone doesn't immeidately seem keen on giving up their valuables for your junk It's just a lot faster and more efficient that way, you don't use techniques or anything
There's no skills involved in the scamming I did though Cause it wasn't like, cold call sales, it was more like cold call buys
But I still think I'm the kinda person who can succeed at this kind athing cause I can just sorta stop caring if what I'm doing is OK by my own standards I just wanna make money, maybe get a different car, with a working speaker system both in the front and back, maybe a woofer I'll make sure it's RWD if I end up making enough to swap cars tho, it just seems more fun to drive
I also kinda naturally slot into a likable person when I'm in a social situation It's not the real me at all, but it's a very effective persona for getting people to like and trust me, from my experience
Everyone at the jobs I've had seem to like me, even if I don't care at all about more than one of them now that I know he's an anarchist too
I don't really consider conning to be a matter of anything other than bullshitting skills. And you can't scam anyone in any setting without some bullshitting skill and a basic ability to read the flow of the conversation.
Many of the skills that benefit scamming people are also used in therapy, though, wwwwww
A good salesperson isn't really selling a product, though. They're selling the idea of a product. The product is ultimately what you're getting money for, but if it's just the product, there are a thousand replacement products they could go with.
What determines whether a person buys this particular product is how it makes them feel. What do they associate it with? What are they missing in their lives, and how does this product fill that hole? Do they feel inadequate? Do they feel lonely? The job of a salesperson is to identify insecurities
S C
Cash I'd probably end up blowing on like Weed, and a car
>>875593 That makes sense when you sell to human beings, but I'll be selling primarily to companies Sure, there's a Guy there I'm talking to, but ultimately he's not buying for himself, he's buying for the entity that employs him
Right, but even companies have values and needs and wants. For example, in the US, if your company is veteran owned, you can get more business even if you cost more than your competitor.
Yeah but they're a lot colder You can't really convince the budget dude the company really fuckin' needs these crates of pens because it'll make them stand out or anything
Anno
Then you set them on fire and then start selling them fire insurance
>>875597 The budget dude doesn't make the decision, though. If you're selling pens to a company, then you need to sell them the idea of what this pen does. Everyone knows that a pen is a fucking pen. But what does this pen in particular tell that company's clients or customers about that company? Does it tell them that this company in conscientious? Reliable?
Well, i'm sure it'll work out I'll get training and stuff, and I can probably ask to listen to recordings of the people who got like, big sales to hear how they pulled that shit
One dude who works at a different division of the company, at like the main branch, apparently made like 120K NOK in a month on commissions from one sale or something Sold a buncha junk to fucking Tesla
I don't fucking know lol, but it's exciting If the guy's just selling me a bridge, it doesn't even matter cause the baseline pay is... double my current income Worst case scenario, I'll have gotten him to pay my rent fo r a month or two lmao
As dumb as it may be, I don't think I will I'm very comfortable setting aside my values when it comes to my own actions, even if that's a part of me I don't like that much
Society is hell, someone would fuck people over even if it wasn't me, it's not like I'm a vital cog
I think my mind's just very conveniently split on my values I have things I believe are right, but I also have no fucking belief in this world changing in a way that makes it matter whether I let myself betray those thoughts
I guess there probably is a limit to how far I'd bend the rules for myself, I just dunno where that limit is at It probably makes me kind of a scumbag, but that's a view I've had of myself since I was like 16 or something anyway
Besides, the real commission money's in selling to businesses anyway, right So anything that even registers as unethical in my skull is unlikely to ever happen
And for that matter, a certain part of the population is gonna be unemployed no matter what, so it's hard to really feel particularly bad about clawing my way out of that portion of the population Maybe I just have an easy time justifying what I do by pointing at the machine and saying the spot for a cog I'm occupying would be filled by someone else anyway, so the outcome won't even really change, it's just which cog does it
I dunno, I'd like to escape living paycheck to paycheck while having my mom cover for what's still lacking because the wheels don't fucking turn for me at my current income and expenses It's really hard to blame myself or feel bad about anything I do when the alternative is unemployment as I'm pushing 30
S C
In any case, that's how I feel It's not really in line with my like, stated values or anything, but that should be kinda unsurprising I think
My philosophy has always been to, at the end of the day, do what needs to be done however it needs to be done. And I have often felt pretty bad about how far I'm willing and able to go to do what needs to be done.
I'm doing what needs to be done, for myself, too But in terms of what I believe on an intellectual level, there's definitely parts of this job that are gonna be actively antithetical to what I think needs to be done
Hell you struggle with this shit, too, I know that from your tweets Your job requires you to do a lotta stuff you really don't like
I don't think I do anything at work that I don't like.
S C
You gotta follow the rules, effectively being the gate standing between some people and the help you know they need, because they don't fit the criteria of the insurance companies that pay your employer
Hmm, I dunno. I just have to embellish people's problems in my notes. It's not like a really big deal for me, it's just a minor annoyance because it's hard for me to focus on the negatives of a person.
First and foremost, my goal is help as many people as possible, so doing that is in line with my values and everything.
The only way anyone is going to take my future from me is if they kill me. If I lose my ability to practice therapy, I'll still have a future ahead of me, and I'll still do the things I want to do, just in a different way.
I mean, losing your license would be a pretty big blow to your ability to continue helping people At least in the same way
Though I guess you probably have some other prospects I'm just in survival mode, and ever since I moved out I've had my mom basically pay my rent because money just isn't enough, so I'm basically willing to sell crack to kids just to claw myself out, whether that makes me a demon or human is up to other people than me
It's possible that not being able to practice would let me help even more people! If I couldn't practice therapy legitimately, it's not like I would go and get another job. I would just use my skills to do what I do now outside the framework that I'm expected to. I'll keep on helping people even if I'm living on the streets! I don't really mind either way, I'm on this path right now so I'll give it my all until my path shifts, and then I'll give that one my all instead.
And if I have to gatekeep and prevent some people from getting treatment in order to protect the people I already have in treatment, I'll do that, too.
It's up to other people because honestly I can't decide how I feel about it I'm just pretty confident I could deal with it, and put it aside
There's no way I wouldn't despise other people who are the way I'm willing to be
I've always been pretty confident I'm overall a despicable human, but it's not like I'm even sure about this one It feels like how most people would approach the problem
Not really. I don't really make value judgments about other people. People are living however they're living. And as someone who has done probably worse things than most people, I don't really have the right to judge.
>>875630 I don't, though. I legitimately don't look at Trump and think "he's a bad person". I don't look at Nazis as terrible people, either. I just think it's sad that they are the way they are.
I generally accept people for who they are and what they do, although I don't always like people or what they do.
I guess we might just have very different ways of looking at things I'm very able to judge people, despite seeing everything as one huge machine that's just chugging along And you're in some ways sorta the opposite
A value judgment just doesn't do anything for me. I know how artificial they are. I have no way to know if the way I'm living my life is right or if the way another person is living their life is right. I believe I'm doing good, but I'm far too limited to know, and I'm not arrogant enough to believe I'm so right that I can dictate how other people should act. Everyone has their own way of doing things. And without everyone else's way of doing things, my way of doing things doesn't exist. So I don't really make value judgments, and when I do, I let go of them quickly.
>>875643 That's not what I mean. What I mean is that my values aren't relevant to other people. What business do I have judging people according my own values? People should be judged according to their own values.
Sure, some people do that. I just don't. It doesn't make sense to me. My values exist based on my experiences which nobody else has. They're relative, not absolute, I can't judge people according to them.
All I can do is ensure that I'm following my own values. That's what's really important. Nobody can judge me but me.
You know, in November, I'm going to be receiving the buddhist precepts. I'll be taking vows to act in certain ways. But even after I do that, nobody will be able to judge me but me. Even if I don't follow the precepts I'm taking, that's my problem and no one else's. And I am absolutely going to violate those precepts, because I'm human. Just like everyone else. So how can I be judged, or judge someone else?
Anyone can do it if they really want to. But usually, we get stuck on our judgments because it's so much effort to let go of them. We're so used to them, it's like saying goodbye to an old friend.
It's a practice. It's not something you just wake up one day and do. I let go of these things every day. It's like algae in a pool, you know, it tends to grow and occasionally you just have to get rid of it before it becomes harmful. Anyone can clean the pool if they want to!
I think cleaning the pool would be very close to purging my memories wholesale I categorize, I don't really connect with most people on anything more than a surface level
You can keep your memories without being so attached to them that they can hurt you or drive you to hurt yourself, or others.
If our way of living isn't serving us, we might as well try something else, you know? Mine didn't serve me for a long time, until I started practicing a way that worked for me.
I mean, my way of living is fine by me, really What's not serving me is mostly external
Well, that and a fairly potent dislike of myself, but that's not really something that's gonna be removed by just changing how I see things That's more of a "brain machine broke" situation
Like I'm unhappy with my living situation, I'm unhappy with how fucking inactive I am in ways that matter, that sorta thing But perspective isn't really a factor there
Learning to let go of judgments will probably change most of that, actually.
You can accept things and still not like them. The acceptance just allows you to not like things in a way that doesn't hurt you. And this isn't about perspective, this is about being. It's not changing how you see things, it's changing how you be in the world. It's allowing yourself to be connected with the world and to be one with the world.
>>875655 I dunno if my disconnection from things and people is due to not letting myself, though
Though in some ways I guess maybe it is connection means I have to be authentic when I deal with people, and I can't really do that, can't really make myself do that It's problematic because of who I am
I'm capable, but it'd kill my future And being me for real wouldn't allow for any sort of real connection either
The fucking amorphous blob I am when I have to deal with people is far more capable of making friends and being liked than I am, it just doesn't go both ways
S C
like I'm the one who ended up on 4chan as the only real connection with other human beings that's me This fucking mask isn't me, I don't connect with people or care I'm a recluse, it's sociable and likable
bullshit it's self-deception if it was, I'd give a shit about the people I work with, I'd like, play games with them or whatever instead of hitting them with a "maybe later" every time it's not that I dislike them, it's that I don't... care, there's nothing in me that's like "you should make an effort"
I want to have a social circle, but I also don't want the stuff that goes with that
I think that's the self-deception. That's how you try to be. But if that were true, you wouldn't message me on Twitter to check on me occasionally. You do that because you care about me, not because you get anything out of it.
>>875674 Everyone showed up here and eventually became a part of moe. That's just how it works.
You've always been the one pulling away, though. You want to have relationships with people, but you stop yourself because you want to maintain this idea you have that you can't do it.
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
>>875674 That's kind of how relationships work, you just kind of meet people and then interact with them more.
I'm not talking about when you left. Just in general. You just tend to pull away from people. You've been like that for a while, like even when we got you in my Trails of Cthulhu game with everyone, you started pulling away really quickly.
S C
I only fix that cause I wasn't really any good at it and I didn't wanna be like, effectively a bystander It's not fun for anyone else if I'm clearly not paying attention
all find ways to get better together or help someone who needs help get better.
That's just what friendships are like, you know? I think that was ToN's first time playing a tabletop game, and it was my first time actually DMing. We all got better at it as the game went on. Choosing not to take part in that is what I mean by pulling away.
That's just how friendships are! I ran a whole campaign to (in part) help ToN improve his DM skills and strengthen them.
But you weren't! You're deciding for yourself that you are, instead of just allowing yourself to be part of the friend group. Whatever the reason, you're still pulling away.
>>875689 But whatever the reason, you still kept yourself on the outside. A lot of times, in fact most times, people simultaneously want and don't want change. And they end up sabotaging themselves.
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
>>875688 gee I wonder what reminded you of this fact
>>875693 But you did want to! You felt the need to pull away because you didn't want to get in the way. You might not have wanted to pull away, but you still wanted to pull away.
Now, I'm not saying this to blame you or anything. I'm just telling you what I see. I see you pulling away a lot, and I think you're deceiving yourself into remaining detatched.
S C
I don't know what to do wbout it
I don't I vant just 'v' v be there if I'm just there cause bividy wants to be the first ibe daying it's annoying
>>875697 Well, you gotta look at yourself without flagellating yourself. Just accept that you are the way you are and that things can change, don't punish yourself for being that way. And then look at how you want to change things.
You know, it's like the serenity prayer. "grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." To truly grow, that's what people need. Of course, acceptance comes before you can change anything, in addition to being necessary for the things you can't change.
>>875709 This might be surprising, but I actually believe in God.
I'm just on the fence as to whether He abandoned us or not. I feel kinda like He just tabs in sometimes and does some management and then goes back to doing something more interesting. Like a city building game that mostly plays itself.
>>875711 This shouldn't be surprising, but I don't believe in any metaphysical power, conscious or otherwise. So it's difficult for me to consider any frame of reference in which any such power has an impact on existence as valid.
>>875714 Well, I don't necessarily believe He's like doing any of that divine intervention shit. I see Him as mostly an observer if He has any role in the universe at all. I'm something of a deist. The higher power I think of as God isn't one who revealed Himself through revelation or prophecy and I don't necessarily believe He's a loving God in any way that I could possibly comprehend.
Now, maybe He has power and just doesn't really use it, or maybe He doesn't have power, I don't know. But if I ever get the chance, I'll kill Him for sure!
Anno
Even the assumption something can exist on a "higher" existence that would allow it to observe the universe, doesn't really sit with me either. Sure we can't say we really know anything for real but there's some things we can know closer to for real than others, and as far as I'm concerned, knowing whether or not there exists a higher existence is one of the things we absolutely can't obtain knowledge of. So it comes down to whether we want to believe it or not, and nothing about knowing there's something on that higher existence brings me comfort or desire to believe it. I got my context a bit skewed towards the end of that line there but you get what I'm saying.
The dead pigin right. Or deer. Something. Honestly his netspeak makes things even more confusing.
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
xqc in among us is something
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
that's a lot of really fast frenglish yelling
Anno
Puttin' the FRIEND in Frenglish
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
i wanna play some Among Us anyone else?
Anno
I haven't really had a desire, no. But that's kind of par the course for multiplayer experiences for me. I have to be really encouraged to do multiplayer stuff.
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
it's fun! even when you fail horribly or if you have a bad impostor round at least for me
The cat that was the original longcat passed away earlier today. Considering how old the meme is, it must have lived a good, long life. True to it's name. Sleep well, Nobirun
It is so stupid cold in this house augh At the least I hope wherever I'm living in a couple months it isn't so awfully cold as this place has always been.
The rhetoric of this sorta thing is rarely as explicit as "we should do a mass sterilization"
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
>>875788 ya know i can't even tell but judging by the replies (that i can see) i think it's sincere >>875790 hmm yea i looked at the defjnition of eugenics and it does include "advocacy of such-and-such"
I meant more in the sense that if you did support literal government sterilization programs of the poor, in our current society you don't really lead off with that, you start by suggesting it's wrong to do what sterilization would prevent in the first place Once that gains traction, you push further, and so on and so on, until you get to something like "well, I don't really agree with sterilization, but on the other hand, they really shouldn't be having kids anyway"
That's not to say everyone who says something like that ultimately wants that end goal, but they're kinda part of that process whether they wanna or not
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
>>875792 breeding out undesirable genetics of.... female ??
Anno
>>875791 Then I'm still confused. She thinks prohibiting poor people from having kids is wrong, you think prohibiting poor people from having kids is wrong What's the problem here?
'deed and it is just "population control with corruption" eugenics usually is targetting traits ie disabilities, minorities of all form, etc and not really wealth
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
>>875795 she didn't say prohibit, that's all she just said saying is a crime
Anno
I'm pretty sure China's lifted the one-child-policy in recent years too. Not that it makes it any better in hindsight. But it is not a thing anymore.
>>875796 You don't really need separate rules for me and you if the enforcement is financial, and our financies are 20% of your income leaves you fucked and 20% of my income means I gotta skip a few things I like
I wouldn't really know, but I do know that related or not, the 80s were a turning point in China's now absurd income disparity That could be incidental, though
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i might give ip on the US and try to start over in the UK idk if that's really much better or i could be a good canadian and stay here fight the hosers and monopolists at home
well it was originally ment to be just a "single generation thing2 my quick research (wikipedia) even said that many "single child family" automatically get to have two kids post 80s
>>875814 Well as the States continues to be an awful place to live, Canada is probably the most likely place in the Anglosphere that talent will look to move to. The UK is being kind of a pain in the ass right now too after all.
Americans are barred from entering Canada for the time being, yes, but that is a matter of pandemic quarantine and not the States closing borders. Once the health situation is better I'd hope travel restrictions lift.
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I mean it'll open then, but like There's no telling how long until that is
