I wonder how I am going to turn I am blonde, but no one in my family is blond save my brother and mother on my father's side, they start to do the fashionable hangaround bald at about 40+ but on my mother's side for examplem y grandfather died 71 and had head full of hair or granduncle was he 87 or something and had well almost all of his hair left no bald spot anyhow
but no one was blond
I just wonder where I got my hair colour
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>501184 hmm slavics I think do tend to gray early but it could just be environment + your health issues + genes
But wait I forgot what IW as going to say what does blond hair turn into when you go old?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Also a weird thing i've noted when I have grown older I have been starting to sprout 100% black hair in my head not many maybe like 1/10 000 or so but still there is that what is going to happen to me, I don't turn gray, I turn black haired when I grow old?
speaking of colour change, ever had clothing that varies in colour depending on what kind of lighting you are under ie. sunlight, fluorescent, and so on I have a brown/green shirt, it is brown in sunlight and stuff that are close to sunlight in wavelenght and green in yellowish artificial light and now dark brown pants that sometimes look 100% black
月
yeah i had a green felt hat that looked purple from an angle for some reason i loved that hat
it was kind of a fuzzy hat if that makes more sense from an angle it reflects light a little differently
月
how long does spray paint last in the can before it can no longer be sprayed this seems easily google-able but again they've deferred to trending and blogposts so the only valuable results are on how long spray paint lasts after it's been sprayed which is the antithesis of my question
depending on where it is stored and how long it has been undisturbed basically, not shaken
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I'd say few years I had a minituare spray paint for the base coating that never dried and I had it for few years
月
i'm making a bug out list and wasn't sure how many cans of spray paint to put on there i.e. no point buying five years worth if the propellant leaks out after two
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
yeah that is the other way it can go bad aside from drying completely the propellant leaking
my /// met with my new peer supervisor today we were talking about what i bring to therapy and one of the things we talked about was that i have knowledge about substance abuse and she asked if i was in recovery and told me she is too she's been sober 7 years it was really cool
Anno
Is this one replacing one you've had trouble with before?
Kirara 🚗
yeah, i have a new supervisor and peer supervisor for the summer i already got more advice than i did in all of last semester haha
why is he naked and why'd the guy try beating him instead of just walking away
FormerRei@mobile
Cause it's west Orlando
Anno
>>501262 I think the naked guy was hanging around the guy's car.
Maria
>>501264 oh I assumed it was the naked guys car and I was wondering why he didn't just get in to drive away >get out of ma car brah I couldn't understand what he was saying here until you posted
>>501268 yeah All the words like, blend together And I don't live in America so I'm not used to hearing it
Kirara 🚗
>>501262 guy's probably on flakka so he's nakef he got his ass beat because the guy told him not to touch his car and the white guy challenged him on it and then touched the car so he got put on the ground
Anno
I parsed it more as "get away from my car, brah", but potato potahto.
I was playing fire emblem today and on grand conquest and like every node avaialble to me was a cavalry node. So I waited for it to change and it didn;t. So I just slapped together a cavalry team, mostly made up of other people's units, and it dned up being super effective. I was getting perfect scores on x8 in like 6 and 7 turns a match.
I shut down the node and got a ton of points, I just started popping lances since I was getting perfect scores so easily. Cavalry is so strong.
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Difficulty? Not really. I think I had the right idea. Perfect clemency? Definitely not, but you're not going to have that when encountering someone who talks in a way you're not accustomed to.
>>501283 As an anarchist, I don't think there should be laws. But if a community collectively agrees that public nudity is acceptable and wants to allow that, they should be able to. I wouldn't want to live somewhere with public nudity, though.
If you look at any body part closely enough, you realize how weird it is. Boobs are weird. Penises are especially weird. Feet are weird too. Cute boots never look weird no matter how long you look at them.
>>501352 People pretty clearly don't want to hear about it. I'm pretty obviously being a bother. And I think that reaction is probably not good for me, so /moe/ and I are both suffering like this.
>>501354 i think a lot of people are having some struggles at the moment it might seem that you're bringing /moe/ down, but i think this is one of those times when /moe/ is just kind of down
i feel that way a lot too , especially lately, and feel like trash for compulsive whining on /moe/ or saying something inconsiderate, or making people uncomfortable and last time i decided to step away to give people space from my bad behavior, they started worryin about me
we'd get worried about you and wouldn't be able to keep you in check if you're not around so dont feel like that
>>501356 It went really well! So well that I'm still breaking down several times every day! Surprisingly, her friends don't have more information than me, the person she lives with. Her only family in the states is currently in Nigeria.
>>501355 I dunno, it really seems to bother everyone. People clearly want me to talk about it less. And why wouldn't they? I'm just showing up and being incredibly hostile and unpleasant.
>>501357 i don't think -- i said that one thing but it's just that one specific thing you should be able to soundboard here with your friends if you can't, then we're kinda crummy friends i dont think anyone else is too bothered besides what i said, and i feel like that was more of me and my unstable behavior idk i guess i can't speak for everyone i prolly shouldn't even be talking i'm prolly making things worse like usual
Anno
I think it is good that kirara keeps come here even if things aren't great. I don't want Kirara to disappear.
FormerRei@mobile
If you contact your local representative they might be able to help you get in touch with the Nigerian embassy.
FormerRei@mobile
Err congressperson
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but will they stop net neutrality
FormerRei@mobile
That should be discussed a different time. Also ToN, did you?
>>501359 Well, everyone keeps saying "She'll be okay" or "Try not to worry so much." So either everyone has more information than me or they don't want to hear about it, because everything points to there being cause to worry and that she will not be okay.
>>501364 damn rei with a quality post >>501366 option C, we're trying to help you but we don't know how entirely, but still trying anyway if you wanna say that it's not helpful or something, that's a different argument than saying you're bringing other people down i'm a big proponent of handling the things you're able to handle and not trying to handle things out of your reach because it ultimately escalates anxiety and worry when you can't do anything in the immediate and maybe it works for other people, but for me it's always backfired and my anxiety is so incredibly destructive that what i feel would help the most is to bring things to a lower energy state where things can be processed and precipitated it might not be the best for everyone else but it's all i know how to do
Anno
>>501366 They are useless platitudes. I feel bad for giving them out to you but I honest don't want you to suffer even though I am offering anything useful.
Anno
*not offerring
Anno
I don't think you are bring down moe, I do think that moe gains a lot from your posts and content and it sucks that you are under a lot of stress at the moment.
FormerRei@mobile
You could also try a consulate.
Anno
If you don't think moe is a healthy place for you, don't cut yourself off too much. Find an outlet anywhere for your stress. I think moe is always here for you for that
>>501366 I hope to hear from her soon too but I'm sure she'll be okay.
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i'd add also that, for me, i'm really susceptible to losing stable perception and sometimes people keeping my worries in check helps me stay rational i need to be told when i'm acting manic or paranoid and need to take my meds because i might not realize i get that you're probably more rational than me, but it's kind of what people do for each other instinctively when they're worried
Anno
Today i was on the cab and the driver started talking randomly and it worried me. I think that's how I tend to make people feel at times, he was saying "i should just leave you and go home" the he started singing out loud and then he stopped the car and bough some kiwi fruit all while people (me and some woman) were as his passengers.
FormerRei@mobile
What the fuck
月
wtf
Maria
>>501376 did he at least offer you some of the kiwi fruit
>>501368 It feels like people would say "that sounds rough" or something instead of saying "it'll be okay" if they didn't want me to just put a cork in it. People being bothered by it isn't good for me or them.
>>501373 All of the outlets for my stress are bad for me.
Anno
>>501382 it's one of these kind of cabs that have a static tariff, they pick you at point A and leave you at point B
FormerRei@mobile
Rika I'm going to inb4 your next post and just ask you to not say things like "I'm sure she'll be fine".
>>501383 a lot of people think "that sounds rough" or "that sucks" is highly dismissive like what help does it give someone to tell them that their situation sucks of course it does it's a very poor way to express empathy or condolences
Anno
Your a paragon of knowing what to say Rei. *you're
Anno
>>501383 I think you have way better coping and handling skills than I am. I'm sure it'll be okay because it's you, but it still sucks. sorry
FormerRei@mobile
>>501387 It's clearly irritating kirara and I considered asking her not to earlier. Obviously not doing it was a mistake.
>>501383 Becuase I have faith that she'll be fine. Also if you look at it rationally the chances that she is fine outweigh the chances that she is not.
FormerRei@mobile
>>501390 There's not enough information to determine that. This is really unhelpful I don't want to soeak for kirara but you saying shit like this is just going to irritate him right now and he doesn't need that.
>>501390 If I look at it rationally, there's more evidence pointing to her not being okay than to her being okay. >>501391 yeah >>501387 He's saying the right things right now, he understands the things I'm worrying about with how /moe/ is reacting to me >>501386 It's less dismissive than "don't worry about it" at least
月
well i'm sorry i told you not to worry about it the worry seemed self-destructive and i was concerned i think for your sanity it would help if you marginalize your worry during times when you're unable to take measures to clear it you said the 18th, and that's another day, so maybe you might hear something then maybe not, but you tried contacting the embassy, so give yourself a break here if you can't take any actionable measures
Anno
You can only wait for her contact you or try and find a way to find and contact her. if calling doesn't work, find someone in person who can assist you. Missing people is horribly stresseful situation and I can only hope it ends well for you.
FormerRei@mobile
I won't ssay ddon't worry But I will say please don't spend all your time worrying and doing nothing elelse.
>>501396 I don't know when she's supposed to be back! The tentative return date is the 18th but we were supposed to communicate about the date. The fact that there's no communication suggests that there is something wrong.
>>501395 I'm okay during the daytime because I have classes and people around me that force me to be functional but I don't have that in the evening. I haven't been able to successfully distract myself from my worries except when I'm at school.
>>501393 I don't think I can marginalize this particular worry.
>>501394 I don't think anyone can assist me. Unless I go to Nigeria and start asking people if they've seen her.
FormerRei@mobile
>>501397 I know you tried the embassy, but have you tried the consulate? Also your local congressperson (or their office's employees) may be able to help if you can't get a hold of the embassy.
I have to go through the same number in order to get to a consulate. I have to call the state department's special number and go through them so they can take a report/request for information, which is forwarded to the embassy and then that would be forwarded to a consulate if necessary. I don't think there are any consulates in Nigeria, though. My local congressperson won't help. He's a piece of shit that doesn't help with anything. At 211, we always used to tell people to call him when we didn't have any referrals for them even though we knew nothing would happen.
Yeah, they told me I should try again and just hold until it goes through.
FormerRei@mobile
How many times have you tried ththe missing persons number?
FormerRei@mobile
Also I might be able to get you in contact with someone from the state ddepartment, we would probably have to discuss that over email though. But I have some connections I might be able to use.
>>501404 I was only able to try once today. I'm going to try again tomorrow. I'm going to try to reach out to my FBI contacts, too.
FormerRei@mobile
Okay I think gyou sshould try it again tomorrow. Hrrrrrrm I can probably get directly in ccontact with a relative who used to bbe hihigh uup in some diplomatic stuff, but isn't snymore. But iirc I have another rrelative who is currently in the state department. I also have some relatives wiwith strong political connections who could pprobably gget this done.
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>Family connection support is always available through local Red Cross chapters. To learn about the safety and well-being of family members, call the American Red Cross at (206) 323-2345 or email Sarah Rothman, International Services and Language Bank Manager, at [email protected].
you could try this too, the international red cross is active in nigeria speaking of extremem long shots through diplomatic connections, wasn't marsh's dad an ambassador in south korea
>>501411 yes that was the sense i was using long shot in
FormerRei@mobile
But like, wwe would hahave tto ddiscuss tthat over email cause I can't just call them up and say "hey my internet friend's girlfriend is missing in nigeria and he can't get through to the state department"
FormerRei@mobile
>>501409 Mine are only longshots in that I may not be able to leverage my connections because I'm the college drop out relative who is iin the part of the family that's momost ddistant physically and like Uhhh In familiarity i guess
>>501412 There's no reason she should be having trouble getting through to me. It's unreasonable to think that's a logical explanation unless something happened to prevent her from being able to contact me. Like being kidnapped. Or murdered.
>>501410 I might ask if my options start running out. Thanks.
>>501409 What's the Red Cross thing? Can I just call them and say someone's missing and ask them to look for them?
FormerRei@mobile
Do you have a "[email protected]" account Cause I do know your name aand iif yyou ccan indirectly give out your email address here i could email you.
Anno
>>501413 i think so http://www.redcross.org/local/washington/programs-services/contact-loved-ones here's where i got that info from i'm pretty sure it's an international service as I first found it in an article talking about the red cross searching for missing people in nigeria dunno why it's listed on a page for a section of the country
>>501414 Yeah. I don't think I should share information about Fish until there's absolutely no other choice, though. At least not until after the 18th. My email is firstnameRlastname@gmail
>>501415 Oh, huh. It doesn't look international, but I guess I'll try.
FormerRei@mobile
>>501417 Okay I'll send you aan email with a bit of an explanation I can't gigive specifics about my connections here
FormerRei@mobile
Oh wait, is it fullfirstname or abbreviated?
FormerRei@mobile
Okay
Kirara 🚗
>>501422 reading this makes me want to vomit
FormerRei@mobile
You should probably askRika to delete that ppost
Anno
>>501417 stuff like this is handled by the Central Tracing Agency which is a committee under the international red cross if that call doesn't go well, you can try to have them direct you to the CTA or have them give you their contact information i couldn't find any contact information online also you could try to get her on the interpol missing persons list through your fbi connections sorry for talking about this for so long, that's all i have for now
>>501470 is that kohi or gween tea >>501471 lancer killed the fuck out of lancer
!/PAN/sgvPw
>>501472 lancer took like half an episode to kill lancer poor fucking lancer though uses an attack that rewrites casuality TWICE and didn't kill either person with it
FormerRei@mobile
Causality Casuality is what let's you get away with not dressing nice
>>501477 this aint /joke/ its /moe/ >>501478 i dont think a single /moe/ is a bee master im on to you hornet nest >>501479 there is only on card waifu and its methodist dragon ignore this one though its his brother
>>501487 set aside link summons and check this boy out
!/PAN/sgvPw
>>501488 ive never seen a bear i dont think theyre around here much ive seen turkeys for some reason though >>501489 its too late i was lost at link summon
FormerRei@mobile
>>501489 Huh neat I like graveyard interaction in magic, glad to see Yugi oh gets some
>>501494 i dont even think ive seen them in a zoo honestly >>501496 ygo is nothing but a shitpost what even is a GY back in my day we called things what they were not abbreviating it all smfh
>>501496 wait isn't this just worse than monster reborn
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>>501503 yes, but monster reborn was banned for over a decade.
FormerRei@mobile
>>501503 Yes In general cards that give your opponent a choice are bad
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
by the way pan yes
I just said WAS
!/PAN/sgvPw
sweet time to restart playing ygo just so i can quit again right now fuck this game i cant play FUN prophecy cards but people can have fucking RAIGEKI back and now this
>>501524 that sounds nice as long as she's not hoarding cats i took care of my uncle's domestic cats which was fun, but also had to take care of a feral colony he decided to feed and i got intensely sick from it
FormerRei@mobile
She has like two.
Anno
I did some running today and managed a mile in 9 minutes. Which is a massive improvement for me in terms of running endurance. I lose my breath so easily when I try to run
>>501532 nice! keep up the good work and that shortness of breath will go away faster than you think
Anno
Walking 18 miles is a lot easier than running long distances. even walking 18 miles is quite tiring *though >>501534 Thanks, I need to try and do some running everyday to build my endurance.
This morning at breakfast, someone was praising me for being smart and inventive and said I'm good at thinking out of the box, so I said that I didn't know how to think inside the box, though, and everyone laughed and said that was good. Then someone gave me one of those metal puzzles. The two twisted pieces of metal that are supposed to be hard to separate. It only took me like a minute to take it apart. Everyone got really exciting. It was embarrassing. I wasn't even trying to take it apart. I was just fidgeting with it in my hands. I wish I were a normal person.
月
it seems like such a wondrous world of awe to live in
I wish I hadn't figured it out. I wish I was some random nobody working a dead end job like a normal person. I could have a normal, boring life. I wouldn't have to live in constant agony because my eyes would always be closed and nothing bad would happen to me.
i have to keep my mouth shut a lot in professional settings because offering my insights to a problem almost always ends up in me getting roped into solving it which i could do, but it's not my problem to be spending precious work days solving
I'm just tired of all the pain. I'm surrounded by people that go through maybe one or two major crises in their entire lives. They can cry over such trivial things. The people they know die of diseases when they're already like 70 years old, and that's their crisis, something they had time to be ready for. And I'm not saying that crisis isn't tragic or painful, because it is, but they have that, and then it's done. They heal. That death doesn't affect their life that much, relatively. They move on without a gaping hole in their soul. For people like me, life is a nonstop series of crises. No matter what I do, it will always end badly. And while I'm drowning in shit, all those normal people can look at me and say, "He's so successful and smart! He's wonderful!"
>>501584 did you know some people and policies recognize moving as a "major life event" like wtf
Kirara 🚗
>>501586 people get fucking adjustment disorders from moving
月
meanwhile if i talk about maintaining a career while homeless it's just scoffed at because i'm obviously lying like who actually suffers shit like that lmao come up with a real excuse am i right
>>501589 well, relocating for work more specifically probably not moving from one place to another in the same area, but moving to a new city with a job transfer or something
Kirara 🚗
>>501588 if we tell people about all of the shit we've been through they won't believe it because "oh that much stuff can't happen to one person!"
>>501591 yeah it happens to me all the time i don't even bother mentioning it i just refer to mold poisoning, cold-induced tachycardia from substandard living conditions, homelessness as a domestic crisis and skip the details hopefully they'll just think my curtains got stained or i had to replace a screen door
people have accused me of lying about antisemitism that i've experienced because the goyim haven't experienced antisemitism (wonder why???) so it can't be real
>>501593 yeah like i can't connect with so many people because if i was real with them they'd just disregard me
>>501598 impossible, we all decided as a group to eradicate antisemitism after the good guys won world war 2
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>>501598 >in your professional career, you'll encounter lots of people eager to tell you sob stories >these are what we call EMOTIONAL VAMPIRES >their sole satisfaction is to get sympathy from people, and while you might want to feel bad for them, don't be swayed >they are TOXIC and will drag you down with them, because they can't stand seeing anyone else be happy
!/PAN/sgvPw
after japan made anime i think we all lost ww2
Anno
in war, there is no winner in world war, the whole world loses
Anno
I can think of plently of winners in war. It makes a lot of money after all.
月
satan wins when he sees god's people fighting each other that's why he poisons our minds with pornography to try to tear families apart
Anno
is profiting really winning
Kirara 🚗
>>501600 and it makes sense to avoid people like us though people like us just go through life getting fucked over other people end up suffering from us suffering sometimes
>>501606 it's totally fine to not associate with people who are too intense for you to handle that's totally reasonable but the mentality of it all is so perverted it's like surface-dwellers being ignorant of the ground-dwellers holding them up and supporting them, and labeling them as evil fiends who only come to the surface to drag others down
i wish they had switched tharja and sanaki's artists but i guess they gotta do the best art for their cash cow the art for the others don't really matter
>>501616 I want a green tome flyer that can dance. I have to settle for a blue tome flyer that can dance.
Kirara 🚗
a tome flyer that can dance is so OP and blue tome is better than green tome green tome is where they regulate the character they don't expect to make money
So who's going to be the ultimate enemy of the Tempest this time?
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Tharja and MGrima again
Kirara 🚗
>>501628 well the tempest is called loki's tempest or something like that so
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Loki's Flames Tharja has Muspell fire tome Loki x Surtr Tharja
Kirara 🚗
a more reasonable connection to make is "this is named after loki and the past few tempests have been caused by loki and loki is being propped up as the major villain so it's probably loki"
月
>>501609 makes me feel like watchin kaiji again tired of all this toned down garbo on western media
>>501654 You got bit by a horse fly, probably. Flies don't bite. They regurgitate digestive enzymes and lick up what gets dissolved. Horse flies suck blood.
ToN
also Blue you could use any Catria Marisa and Felicia
Anno
>>501656 It was a big fly so I think you are right. It is unpleasant. >>501659 I'm a big fly for a white guy
>>501692 The person who made the comment and everyone who agrees with him.
>>501694 >reported to the police for making a statement about a fictional character maybe that's a crime in the UK but not really anywhere else.
Anno
It isn't even a crime in the UK the guy who got done for that also had real child porn. it was more like he was continuing to consume material that the court found unfavourable considering he was charged to with possession of real stuff
>>501697 Don't you think it's a terribly oversensitive way to be?
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>>501698 Unless the person is already suspect of problematic interests in Canada, such a report would probably not bear any real results here. I do know from first-person experiences from people I know that it's less forgiving down under though.
>>501699 I don't know the discord. There are some discords where that would be oversensitive based on the culture. Regardless of the culture, when I personally hear people talking about wanting to have sex with children or marry them, I feel a great deal of disgust. So I can understand why it's being discouraged. I think the threat to report that to Discord, whether that discussion is in-line with the culture or not, is demonstrative of immaturity, though.
Anno
I'd rather not be in a discord where that kind of talk is commonplace
Anno
I think it depends on the level of gross comments, if people are seriously getting creepy about younger age characters and using the fact they are fictional as an excuse to say vile things then I think that needs to be addressed
general anime discords are definitely the types of places where you'd have random people chiming in out of nowhere about how they want X to fuck them in a back alley so
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Discord pretty hard to use really, I find the level discussion is so poor or that they are so tight knit that it feels awkward to talk in them.
Anime discords are usually full of really gross people that want to marry or fuck kids.
I think it probably relates to their insecurities. They don't feel like they have what it takes to function at the level of an adult, both in everyday life and sexually, so they fantasize about children, who won't be able to judge them about how immature they are or how bad at sex they are.
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They usually full of really young people who are really immature. I think it is just a meme for a lot of people to have waifus and trade back and forths with other immature people about their fetishes
>>501701 It's a fictional character! You're not really having fun on the internet unless someone in the room is shitposting about how they want to suck her toes or something.
>>501711 If I told you that I wanted to hold a fictional character down and slowly mutilate them until they died, you'd probably be worried about that and assume it's demonstrative of some serious problems. You'd probably assume I'm dangerous.
That's how I view people that talk about having sex with or marrying children. If it's one or two characters, that's one thing. If there's a pattern there, that disgusts me. That person is most likely not healthy and it makes me worry that they're dangerous.
When I was less mature and worldly, that stuff didn't bother me. It was fun to shitpost about that. It's not anymore.
I think a lot of anime characters are difficult to age because they don't have normal human features. except obvious children characters, the 20 year characters from the teenage ones are often indistinguishable
I am certain that the channel devolved into lewdposting about Nowi. Without a doubt. If they didn't, then they all really do deserve bans.
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>>501715 how are you going to get to the esophagus
Anno
it's buried in sanaki's pyramid
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>>501713 I would immediantly assume you were trolling for attention by being shocking and edgy, if you continued I'd probably dislike it. Regardless of sincerity of the post I think most people who find explicit detail about doing things to children gross and banworthy
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discord is always full of sad people i.e. "gamers"
I'm in discord chats with people I know in real life. We mainly use it to communicate for organizing. It's very effective. We also talk shit in them sometimes.
>>501722 Even if it's not explicit, if it's consistent, that's really disgusting to me. It's revolting.
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I mainly use it to talk to people I know in real life too. but the file limit is annoying.
I signed up to a bunch of channels but it ends up with small circlejerks between people who use those channels all the time. I just check a Japanese language learning channel and they are literally talking about farting and how tall each other are.
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i use it as a skype replacement and occasionally to post memes
>>501724 I can agree with that, if someone is making it very clear that have sexual desires for children, they definately need help and to be removed. I think that is fair because either they do need help or they are presistent shitposters looking to shock and should be removed anyway
>>501713 Depends on how much I thought you were sihtposting. I wouldn't immediately shut you down and threaten to report you to the authorities though. People have posted that kind of thing on moe in the past, both ironically and non-ironically.
Tolerating someone's speech is an act of tolerance and love.
>>501732 Very few people would immediately shut it down and report it. It's a very immature way of dealing with it.
It's true that it's happened on /moe/, and we still have people here that consistently behave in gross ways. I don't advocate them getting shut down.
But you're making a mistake in your view of this. Tolerance doesn't exist in a vacuum. What can be tolerated depends on the culture. You may not like this, but not every community is 4chan. There are a lot of places where certain behave, such as sexualizing children, isn't acceptable. That's something we have to tolerate, too. We aren't always in our own communities, and we have to tolerate the culture of the communities we're visiting, even if we don't like it.
Anno
I don't think moe is anywhere near the level of lewdposting about loli characters that you see elsewhere.
Anno
I think it is really easy to get used to how 4chan normalises certain behaviours, I think people forgot how offensive somethings are outside of 4chan. I had to control my friend from saying faggot and other words he was used to saying online, outloud.
"I want to lick Sanaki's forehead!" isn't even a little funny. Maybe it was like five years ago. Now it's droll and boring and completely uninspired. It's not a joke. It's not anything.
If I came on /moe/ and started talking about how much I want to do this and that sexually, I have no doubt that you and others would want me to stop. In fact, many people got very upset that Teacup was so forthcoming with details about her sex life. I don't recall you mocking and judging /moe/ for being intolerant to that.
When Inaban came and mocked Teacup or Saku after their deaths, I don't recall you mocking and judging him for his words. Wasn't that really intolerant of you? You deleted those posts! That's really intolerant.
Maria
>>501735 It was so weird finding /tea/ after years on 4chan and not seeing faggot and retard every second post It's a weird reverse culture shock coming out of years of 4chan and not being a dick for no reason
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I like /moe/ and I do like 4chan too but I know the context I can behave in and I know the audience of what I post is. on moe I'm a lot less organised talking about things, its pretty free flowing. on /a/ or /jp/ I have specific interests so I talk about them like particular manga or finding downloads for music etc
>>501737 That's different. Teacup got leinency because she was one of us. Inaban didn't because he was disrupting the community.
It had nothing to do with censorship of content, it had to do with the intention and the effect it had on the community. Good moderation doesn't deal with censorship of content, it's all about managing the community.
>>501742 Teacup's content was frequently censored. Why? Because it wasn't acceptable for the community. It wasn't tolerated because it was not culturally acceptable.
But I wonder if there's any point to discussing this. There probably isn't. You probably don't even understand my opinion on what we're talking about. I don't know why I talk about anything with anyone anymore. I should just not have conversations, maybe.
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I think good moderation does have some censorship of content. there are a lot of things I don't like to see and especially not on moe.
>gold finish time is 8:00 >finish challenge at 8:03 time to behead myseslf
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I think I agree with Kirara on this, I don't think were are all that tolerant here. in the sense that we have very clear idea on what is acceptable and what isn't/ At least that is how I see it, I know I avoid talking about certain things and I also expect people not be assholes here.
I don't think I'd value moe as much as I do if boundaries weren't in place, It might feel like gatekeeping a little I guess but I don't think just anyone can post and say what they want. This place is special in a way.
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I don't think that poster whom I can't remember his name was tolerated for long sakura that's it
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Most people from outside /moe/ would probably consider us rather intolerant.
i mean you've gotta be pretty tolerant here if you let the second inaban post here
TN
waiting for people >seagul bomb raid misses me by 20cm so i guess that was my luck used today
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>>501757 Steam has no security with keeping adult games out of the hands of underaged buyers as it is right now. I'm surprised it took them this long to start the crackdown.
>>501756 I helped give birth to a place that considered /moe/ intolerant and is now filled with nazis and nazi accessories so you're about right on that.
>>501773 This is what happens if you let lolicons dictate the community's culture
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I don't know if lolicons are equal to nazi but if you are tolerant with some bad things you, end up letting in a lot of other things which are unfavourable
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>>501773 Yeah, this is why intolerance is necessary. Give public spaces like these leniency and you're playing a game of chance with the sorts of people that might show up and take root.
>>501782 Lat decided that moderation is a fool's game and figured out that the best way to deal with things is to set the site up so that anyone can create their own /board/ and moderate it themselves.
I don't really know the correlation between lolicon/paedophilia and nazis but I think, there are a lot vile people who do have loose morals. I don't think all people who have sexual attractions to the children are the same sort of people, I think it is a disorder for some people and that they need treatment.
>>501790 It won't. The big difference between meguca and 8ch is that one is a heavy public facing and the other is some fallback board that no one knows about. Nothing will happen to it unless 4chan and 8ch both go down near permanently
>>501790 It probably won't be okay. If Fish never comes back, I'll either die or withdraw from society completely. If she comes back, all of the feelings and thoughts this has triggered will complicate my relationship and I'll probably be too embarrassed to continue posting here like usual. There's no way this ends well for anyone. Except maybe /moe/.
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>except maybe /moe/ You not being here, would take away a long posting member of our community and a really good friend and contributor. and personally I don't think moe would recover from losing members like you, it'd die really easily once people left.
>>501807 Things will definitely be okay. I understand how you feel right now but I'm telling you that you're overreacting a bit. Justifiably so, but it's important to realize that there are days like this and that sometimes you just gotta roll with it.
I'm speaking as onee-chan mode Rika here, by the way. This is where you don't argue with me and take what I'm saying to heart.
The reasons to worry will never be gone. Even if she does come back safely, I have to worry about all of the other ways she's going to die if she's involved with me so intimately.
>>501812 This is where you don't argue and take what I'm saying to heart.
You're having a bad night, which is something that happens to everybody. Just chill and accept that life has its ups and downs, and everyone has nights like this where they're worried and everything seems bad.
>>501821 I'm not going to just ignore reality and pretend like everything is fine. I can't do that.\ I've realized that nothing is ever going to be okay. All of the things that are keeping me alive entered into my life due to suffering and they'll leave through suffering, too. That's all there is. Suffering.
Pan is also invited but it's not like he needs to be invited.
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I am sorry Kirara, I really want thinks to work out. I've really liked interacting with you, I really hope Fish reappears and that your stress reduces.
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rika tell me everything is bad and is only going to get worse
even if she does reappear i don't know if it's fair for me to continue being involved with her knowing that it means she will probably die it would be selfish
Does Netflix enforce copyright all that much? I'm worried I'm going to get a letter in the mail for downloading something from nyaa. >>501835 Good danks
>>501841 I've been like this. You probably didn't realize because you haven't been around. Which is good because you haven't had to deal with my nightly breakdowns.
>>501848 Unlike Rika, I'm not really attempting to be productive. In fact, I am withdrawing any attempt at being productive. I'm going to leave it to Fish.
>>501851 Last night I went to bed around 12:30. The night before, I went to bed around 2am. The night before that, I went to bed at like 3am. And before that, around 3am. You just haven't been around. I've talked about this stuff while you were watching anime several times.
My point is that I've been feeling this for a week now.
>>501855 Do you think I'm lying or something? I just checked my sleep data to see when I went to bed. Last night is the only time in the last week I went to bed before this time.
Things are only going to get more depressing and stressful. Tomorrow and the weekend is going to be bad.
>>501869 Of course I plan to, but there's not a good chance I'll find anything out because the state department won't release information to me without written consent
fish's period was late when she left i feel like my skin is going to burn off thinking about it
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They don't just give up looking for a missing and vunerable person just because they don't have their written consent.
I don't think I've ever talked about this on /moe/ but teacup was pregnant when she died it was less than a month though so it wasn't very far along that's part of why i'm freaking out so much it's how i know i'm cursed i'm going to vomit
You need to calm down because you're thinking irrationally and superstitiously. There is no such thing as curses.
The fact that she didn't contact you at all tends to suggest that her ability to contact you was more difficult than she anticipated. I would agree that it would be cause for concern in the case that she was contacting you regularly and then stopped, but since she never was able to establish contact it suggests that the method of contact there was bad to begin with. I know a family that goes to the Congo every year, and they come back just fine every time. The Congo is substantially more dangerous than Nigeria, too. Tourists / travellers generally do not go to the bad areas in those countries.
You're perfectly justified for feeling like you do, but it's important to confront your own irrational thinking.
if you think about it rationally, the chances of all of this happening to me and similar patterns emerging shouldn't happen rationally, that doesn't happen in real life real life isn't a story but my life is anything but rational to claim, in the face of my life, that you can just look at things probabilisticly, is irrational
fish's family is incredibly rich and nigeria has decent communicative abilities and satellite phones work great there contacting me should be possible
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Real life is cruel. I think don't think you are cursed.
>>501883 I'm not really sure what the communication infastructure is like there. Even if that stuff is available, it's possible (and likely) she didn't have access to it from the start for whatever reason. The radio silence from the start doesn't suggest that something happened to her, it suggests that she was never able to secure communication. The dropped call you got also suggests that she had a shitty method of contacting you that proved not to work.
>>501886 I've researched the infrastructure. There's no logical reason she wouldn't be able to communicate. There are reliable methods for communication. She wouldn't just abandon me. She would contact me from the embassy in Lagos if she had to. Or she'd send someone else to do it.
Well, I don't know the circumstances and it's pointless to go through all the possible fact patterns. It makes logical sense that the facts that we do know suggest an inability to contact you, though. If something had happened, she would have been contacting you and then stopped.
>>501890 But that danger would have had to have been everpresent from the start. That makes it much less likely an alternative to communcation troubles.
>>501895 We didn't plan on communicating from the start because I was supposed to be out west without cell reception when her plane landed.n I wasn't expecting any communication with her until after I returned from the trip.
If it is her dad, the only reason he'd do this is if his intention was to set her up with a Nigerian to marry or something which would be very bad and very dangerous.
And she'll get hurt. Probably very badly. And then I'll have to go and kill the Nigerian and her dad and I'll go to jail and it will end badly for everyone.
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doesn't he have assets in America
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I will help you with a flight to nigeria if you need to go.
>>501924 Because you know how I am and you know that I can't just stop worrying about this and give in to someone I believe is using facts selectively.
>>501923 i wonder if its the one i think it is that was in this episode the one she makes when she roles over // rolls over shirous corpse looks like a face he'd make
>>501950 I think you know pretty well the difference between when I'm just making stuff up and when I've sussed out the little details and know what's going on. I will be going to bed sort of soon, my first obligation isn't until 10 AM tomorrow though so I can sleep in a little if I want, and I think I do want to.
>>501952 There's nothing to suss out. The only difference is that I took drugs to knock me out. Or sedate me at least. And to avoid my alcohol cravings.
while I'm usually inclined not to trust a lot I think in this moment it's important, to do so as you're own judgement itself is clouded by anxiety and selecting it's own facts based on anxiety
>>501960 You don't know how or you've forgotten? Maybe my memories not all it's cracked up to be, but I'm sure in the 8 years I've known you I've seen you do it before.
>>501960 Well, you know I have good judgment when it comes to these things. I'm not asking you to stop worrying or to alter your opinion either, just to trust my judgment a little bit.
Yeah, you don't think my judgment is good in this instance, but you didn't disagree with the idea that it is generally good when it comes to these things. People in your position can't think straight.
I had a scare like this a few weeks ago, when my uncle was in the hospital. My mom went to visit him, and sent me a text around 9 that evening that she was leaving the hospital. The next day, I went by her place in the morning and she wasn't there and I expected her to be. I checked my phone, saw that message, assumed she had not made it home and panicked. I blew up her phone with calls, called the emergency room to make sure she wasn't there, and sat there miserable and worried for a few minutes before she finally called me back, acting like I was crazy. It turns out I actually was crazy, and had lost track of him not him, time I had lost track of time and forgotten that I'd talked to her around 11 that night. Because I'd lost track of time, I thought the 9 PM message was the last I'd heard from her, but it was actually 11 (and she told me she was staying overnight at the hospital, which I'd forgotten or not listened closely enough to)
anyway my point is that people are irrational and stupid and emotional about these things and immediately assume the worst.
>>501965 I'm sure there's others you can learn to lean on that'd be plenty willing. Expanding your horizons of lean-on-able people isn't such a bad prospect.
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that's something i would like to do but it's kind of hard to figure out how
>>501969 It's different for everyone. Everyone leans different and everyone is leaned on different. Sometimes its just finding the right fit and sometimes its just learning to adapt. >>501970 Not built for learning to add to the list? That's phrased poorly where was that thought going, hold on. Not built for learning to add people to the list? that's where it was going
>>501970 Feelings shouldn't be trusted unless you can identify a rational basis for them. You know I'm good at this sort of thing too, I'm very good at stability and being autistic about things.
>>501972 Feelings can be trusted. And should be. There are reasons we have them. You're the one being irrational here. You're just ignoring facts so you can feel like there will be an outcome you like.
>>501971 I can't have that level of intimacy with many people.
>>501974 I don't think you need a very high level of intimacy for it, really. But, that's also probably just me and I did say it varies. However, I'm sure I could use you or Shawn to lean on if I was having issues, for example.
>>501977 That's because I already know the pattern so I can predict what comes next.
>>501976 I'm too defensive I can't let my guard down anymore Only with a few people
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You can't predict what comes next though. That's getting back into that non-existant fate or cursed stuff.
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the best predictor for the future is the past whether you believe in curses or not
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Nah. It's as equally a shit tool for predicting thing as anything else. It's fun to draw patterns but patterns in the past are all abstract.
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predictions are literally based on the past that's a scientific fact we predict things using patterns from the past and applying more new information
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And nothing, nothing about your past events are a scientific indicator for how events beyond your control and beyond your awareness are going to turn out. Believing anything else is irrational.
>>501978 I see a pattern too, one where everything turns out okay and you thank me for the support in a few weeks.
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I get the feeling of things that are bad going to happen too, I don't know how to respond to this but when your life has fucked you over, it is really hard to get // to trust the future. I can't either
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>>501984 what's the basis this pattern is established on? there's no previous instances of this or similar situations
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>>501983 actually the biggest and best predictor for a traumatic experience is a history with at least one traumatic experience the more traumatic experiences you have, whether within or without of your control, the more likely you are to have more traumatic experiences
>>501986 I've helped you calm down a bunch of times in the past.
I've got to go soon though, so I'l leave you with a couple of distractions that have been going on with me.
The first you probably won't find too interesting, it's an aria figure. http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-039238&page=top Kinda thinking of getting it since Aria is one of those works that changed my worldview.
The second is that I got a text message tonight from someone who is somewhere between acquaintance and friend, more toward the acquaintance side. He told me to well I guess I don't know the lingo here Basically he gave me his instagram and told me to friend him or subscribe or whatever (I don't use instagram) and his username is kind of lurid I wonder if I'm being pranked.
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
moving into a new experience imto into the newest thing we know far ther than far
>>501978 Letting in just one or two won't be the end. After all, "You make yourself too hard, you make yourself brittle too. Crack once, crack all to pieces."
Samu !KW2DbpWwls
trust
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>>501988 not in situations where my possibly pregnant girlfriend was in an extremely dangerous foreign country on the other side of the planet and unable to communicate
why would an acquaintance prank you with an Instagram name
>>501998 i think he was just talking about europe hours bein better moe activity he said "finally europe hours. american hours are boring on moe" or something like that idk a lot of ways to read into that
>>501998 Given how desensitized I am by being an internet person, I'd give it a 5/10. It's got that stupid frat boy flavor to it too, so it's kinda flippantly lewd.
>>502004 I don't have an instagram so I don't think I can look? My plan is to ask if I'm being pranked. Maybe someone got a hold of his phone and sent it.
>>502022 it's not which is a shame because from what I've read I think it might work out for me
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work for what purpose mood regulation and sedation? or stimulation?
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more mood regulation, not so much sedation or stimulation
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try valerian root you should be able to pick it up at a pharmacy it's my supplement of choice to me it's a very similar experience to kratom, but maybe not for others
