>over a month until my appointmnet ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck i dont wanna deal with this
oh you said the voice line for when a dragoon is built but i didn't build one so somebody did
FormerRei@mobile
>>294525 That's I have returned, not I am returned.
FormerRei@mobile
Also I saw my copies of of StarCraft and Broodwar and their strategy guides while going through boxes while cleaning earlier today.
sk
I really hate having to go home from work because of this Why can't I just function I just wanna go to work and do the little work I've been able to get my paws on 8 don't wanna go back to zero income NEET-hood
FormerRei@mobile
>>294528 You have so e sort of war problem now right?
FormerRei@mobile
*ear *some
FormerRei@mobile
Fuck Tired Going bed Yasumi
bangu
rip rei
sk
>>294529 Yeah It makes me dizzy, I had to grab hold of the desk while standing up several times and I just hope nobody noticed
I hate being like this, I wanna be at work, not in bed I barely get paid but I wanna go to work like everyone else
I'm worried I'm so me sort of hypochondriac at this point ut doesn't seem like I'm capable of not having something wrong with me
>A general obligation bond (GO) is a municipal bond backed by the credit and taxing power of the issuing jurisdiction rather than the revenue from a given project. General obligation bonds are issued with the belief that a municipality will be able to repay its debt obligation through taxation or revenue from projects. No assets are used as collateral.
Read more: General Obligation Bond (GO) http://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/generalobligationbond.asp#ixzz4uXrURG00 So the issuing jurisdiction is the US, the "project" would be PR. The US tells people who are holding a GO Bond on PR that they'll pay because we'll tax them. If the idea that the US will just wipe the debt clean is being tossed around, that goes against the GO Bond promise. So the value and stability of this bond gets gutted.
>>294583 unfortunately this is just another way to terrorize the masses it's ableist bullshit find one person that had an unusual reaction to Valium and say it makes you kill people
I have just traveled down a really long meme and found the most silliest shit at the end. >>>/watch?v=p1idfaYEs_I Spiderman has an infinite combo in the new MvC and... it's really bad.
Yeah it's definitely NOIDEX These are all the people who follow both of us, and that's the only one who's actually political and someone I think would be suspended ever Pupper would never get suspended, for example, way too good a boy
>>294634 Imagine studying for years, going through the hellscape that is looking for and securing work in professional, high budget animation... and then being put to work making this fucking disaster of a cash-in
Uh Isn't that really the same question? They're both complete perversions of the medium in the service of profits, but at least the Emoji Movie has some qualities that aren't solely for the cash-in
Oh I think I understand what you mean I can't really say
Minions are just a spinoff from a franchise of movies that are... at least not like awful But the emoji movie is like, commodifying basically language itself, that's pretty disgusting in a sense
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i cant even shop for soap without seeing minion soap
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well it wasnt a real deep question just opinion level stuff
I had a dream that I was working in my big underground data parsing facility and this group of Chinese international businessmen came and wanted to tour the facility so I was like okay but they didn't want a technical tour, they wanted like a weekend conference resort getaway because the interfacing environment was prime for their needs and they also wanted the technology demonstrated to them and i was like damn that sounds pretty cool, sure so i made them some special eyewear so that they could interface with the systems but they were really sad because i told them that it wouldn't work until they had neuralace installed which would take some weeks so they left and said they'd come back next time and gave e very formal chinese greetings err not greetings, gratitudes and then the united states banned them from and any other foreigners from ever visiting my facility it was open to americans but nobody in america wanted to come to it and i had to make these special accomodations to make it open to the public for some reason even though it was mine and the public wasn't even using it
well, they would come up and use the above-ground loft lounge because they thought that was cooler than all the super tech down below
Oh sweet I found a bookstore nearby that has a copy of a book I loaned out and never got back for $3.25. Although I got mmy originally *original copy for $1.
remixes of politician speeches into something like "I believe that we must gather all workers, students, poor,t he middle class and women and cut them down so banks can drive big ferraris in rivers" is just way too funny than it should be
FormerRei@mobile
>>294681 >Human beings and fish can coexist peacefully
It was me I killed santa Should've gotten me the right colour iphone
Anno
Google's offering a free one of their new home AI devices for people who purchase a Pixel 2.
Maria
>>294695 Does Googles AI devices have the hologram waifus
Anno
Don't believe so.
They're also marketing a new high-end ChromeOS Pixelbook laptop that comes with a pressure-sensitive touch screen. I wonder if this is their attempt to push into the Microsoft Surface market. They even sell (separately, of course) a tablet pen to use with the laptop. Depending on the quality of the touchscreen, and if there's better maens of getting third-party software on the machine than previous Chromebooks, if it could be used as a drawing machine too.
Anno
And the new earbuds that Google are selling (separately, of course) since the Pixel 2 does indeed not have a traditional headphone jack have a button on them which will trigger Google Assistant on your phone -- though maybe only working with the Pixel. Still it is kind of neat to be able to just push your ear and get the computer to tell you how to get somewhere or whatnot.
>>294817 you have a monopoly you are what's wrong with the world
Kirara
i bought an ice cream sandwich and an ice cream bar. i was going to give one to someone. but it started raining. i had to eat both. >>294823 what! 7-11 ice cream sandwich is 2.49 here.
Anno
we got. magnum chocolate bars. 2 for 4. even ice cream sandwich (7-11 kind) 1 dolla.
Anno
I bought some gobstoppers cause I haven't had them in ages
Anno
>>294822 supply and demand. this is capitalism. you are in the wrong 7-11 zone.
There were questions on the multiple choice that I know I got wrong because I didn't hear what was said and was paying attention to other details. There were parts of the visual portion of the test that I don't know what to do about other than "call police", "call assistance", "call this other thing". I'm a conductor, not an officer, not a medic, I don't know the policies on what to do when someone's knocked out and sleeping in the train. Also, to be honest, I don't even know if there ARE "right" answers. It could have been one of those things where it's super open-ended and there's no "They have to say this thing or it's wrong." There's a picture of guy about to fall on his face on the platform and the question was "What kind of injuries would this person probably get?" And I said "He can break his foot." Mainly because all the way at the back, his foot looked like it was in between the gap between the train and the platform. I could've went with something simple like facial injuries or whatever. >This guy is sitting on the train in front of the doors while on his laptop. The train is crowded. He is making it hard to get into the train whenever it reaches a stop. Passengers are complaining to you about him. Someone is also reporting to you that another passenger is being threatening to the individual sitting on the ground. What do you do?
I don't even remember -- oh wait, now I do. I said "I tell him to stand up."
Maria
>>294896 Calling police or assistance might have been the right answer. I would rather my conducters do that than try to play herowith things they don't understand. If there aren't "right" answers and they were just getting a general open ended judgement then you can't have been wrong.
Either way you can't do anything now so don't worry about it.
I'm not "worried", I'm upset. That should have been a gravy train and it was a molasses train instead. I got to hear some cool stories from the other people taking the exam though. Like the guy who took his CDL-A test three times.
Yes. The difference between my brother's assessment and mine was that he chose answers that were extra assertive and more selfish towards one's work. >>294908 too late I missed the second deadline. I know the money.
FormerRei@mobile
Oh shit You should have tried again Aircraft controllers make good dosh
There's "by the book" and then there's assertiveness. I can't go "by the book" if I don't have a book to read. It was a personal assessment on how I do my work and how I work with others. As someone who's done retail, it's standard and normal to cover for those who aren't able to do the work at whatever given point. You're in a store, people move around, you do what you gotta. My brother's attitude towards things like that is "fuck that, do your own work, I'm going to do mine." He got a response, I didn't. The assessment had nothing to do with being precise. Just how you get along and work in a team.
Eh, it's nonsense. Honestly, I figured if my first assessment doesn't get me in, with proper honesty, I probably don't want to work there anyway. Let someone else burn their own flame out calling out plane flights in Guam.
I suppose so! I always sing when I run and I was running through the rain, trying to get to school. I had walked to an ice cream // to a 7-11 to get ice cream when the rain started.
>>294924 Yeah. I've been doing it like that for years.
FormerRei@mobile
You sing whwhile yyou rurun? That's somewhat inimpressive.
It probvably looks pretty bad on the 3ds doesn't it?
At least the game is fun I guess.
Maria
silky smooth 15fps
TalesofNukes !5cY5Lovers
it's not as pretty on the 3ds no. Like Lissa turns to face the camera after a super and it was spooky.
Also she uses an axe which is badass as fuck
Maria
To be fair I remember hyrule warriors running impressively well on the 3DS
Anno
It's less about it running well and more, the 3DS isn't a very good device to deal with a lot of visual information on. The resolution is atrocious, but you're still looking at a lot of things on the screen.
Maria
Do you use the nub for the camera too? Because that thing feels awful to use
>>294941 The bad resolution is what is a problem for me.
Anno
What.
Anno
>>294944 Yeah, it's whatever for textual information like battle menus and reading dialogue, but when it comes to observing 3D model objects it's pretty difficult.
I'll just enter that and your email address into as many sites as I can think of
Anno
Apparently installing Linux onto Chromebooks is a really easy process. But I don't really know what relative frame of reference that's in I guess. Still it might be something useful to keep in mind if I ever find my current one lacking, or if in some opportune future I can get something like the new Pixelbook.
>>294966 I would rather just get a normal laptop and put linux on it, I think.
Maria
Can I join the secret club
FormerRei@mobile
>>294970 Probably a better idea Although another gogood tthing tto ddo is to make sure that there aare ggraphics drivers available on GNU/Linux for whatever laptop yoyou geget
Anno
Most laptops don't come with really good touchscreens though. The new Pixelbook does, but there aren't really good browser-based drawing apps. Though I guess it can run native Android apps so I might be able to find one through that.
>>294974 >I don't care about your personal wants for a device I'm just going to be an obnoxious cunt because it's funy to me
>>294974 Why not? You can just not touch it if you don't like it.
>>294976 Alright time for the greatest game of hide and seek.
>>294978 Yeah fair enough I'd probably think the same
FormerRei@mobile
>>294977 Well, mainly I'm against getting one bbecause I won't use it aand it makes the laptop cost more.
Anno
These laptop/tablet merges are finding a lot of popularity in creative markets too. It's like having a drawing tablet with a screen but also being able to function as laptop when you're not using it to draw with. Like the Surface line gets picked up a lot by digital illustrators.
FormerRei@mobile
>>294979 The surfaces arare cool though, but imI'm just not in their demographic.
FormerRei@mobile
Man I'm fucking pipissed aat Samsung My phone's been wa llot sslower and glitch ier eversince I updated it
>>294993 I'm going to hurt you really soon! I'm going to do something that will ruin your eve!
FormerRei@mobile
>>294993 Yeah, I gguess. If you're irresponsible/forgetful eenough tto not bring it every where your laptop goes.
Anno
>>294992 I can't really get on board with taking a mouse around. The ones designed to be portable always feel like they cramp my hand to use for a long time. And the regular-sized ones just aren't nice to carry around.
FormerRei@mobile
>>294997 Logitech has some really gogood onones, their regular wireless mice aren't heavy and don ttake uup a lot of space. The to gtgtiny ones are awful though.
>>294996 Or maybe you just don't want to fool with one. I don't want to use a mouse without the right mouse pad. So now you're hauling around a mouse and a suitable mouse pad.
Maria
>>294997 I don't use my laptop for extended periods of time when out in public In fact I've never really needed a mouse anyway.
FormerRei@mobile
>>294999 Mousepads aren't really thathat neccesary anymore Worst case scenario, use the mouse ddirectly oon the laptop
>>295006 Using a mouse without a pad is such a low quality experience. I'd much rather just use the touchscreen. It has to be a good mousepad too. I don't like those cheap plastic glossy ones.
>>295015 Clanking? What the hell are you dodoing wiwith yyour mouse to make it clank?
Anno
>>295013 I used a mouse without a mousepad for ages and it definitely scratched and messed with the desk I had. If not for that desk being old and made of shitty IKEA wood it would have bothered me a fair bit.
Also you can get an all right mousepad that is comfortable and doesn't ruin your mouse for five bucks CAD on Amazon. It protects your desk from scratches, it reduces the erosion on the bottom of your mouse, and it's a bit of cushioning for your wrist. I feel you get your five bucks worth pretty easily from it.
I have very little between the outside of my body and the bones of my wrist. Resting my bare wrist on a solid surface for a long time isn't a very nice feeling. Again, I can resolve this problem for pretty much life, for five dollars. Why WOULDN'T I do this?
I think I just use my mouse different. Or maybe my wrist is as insensitive as my nipples. Whatever. >>295038 This piece of cardboard is really smooth and super good.
Maria
>>295032 a mouse pad gives the mouse better traction and makes it more responsive
FormerRei@mobile
>>295038 Yeah, I use my gamin mouse wiwith a momousepad whenever I'm doing an fps oor ssomething that requires quickness anand precision
For the longest time I was using a leather file folder as my mousepad. It was some random thing my dad had laying about when I asked if he had a spare mousepad. The whole thing did work pretty well, but it was a bit too high up.
I have a new phone. The sim slot is too small for my sim I'm not going to try to shave it I'm just going to not get phone calls. I can use my old phone as a beeper or something.
Anno
Can't you get your SIM exchanged? When I got my phone upgraded a few years back I had to go from a SIM to a micro SIM and my carrier just re-assigned my account information to a smaller card.
Also what's the new phone?
FormerRei@mobile
>>295046 You should rerepair your old phone It is wworth tthe money because of thst .3 btc you have on there
i'll do all the necessary stuff later it's an okay phone nothing fancy one of the non flagship Galaxy phones.
FormerRei@mobile
I have an s7 edge It shouldn't be this damn slow Also turning ofoff the forced gp Anyways, I tried messing with some settings to make it leless sshitty bbut iit sseems to have failed Although Mozilla is probably also somewhat to blame
Maria
I got a Huawei P10 lite It's pretty nice
Anno
Huawei made my current phone, the Nexus 6p. They've got a pretty good quality I've found. I'll probably keep this phone until USB-C headphones finally become commonplace and I can upgrade to the new generations and still plug my headphones in.
Maria
Yeah I think they strike a good balance between quality and cheapness
FormerRei@mobile
>>295052 You get that recommend toyou frofrom ththe /CSG/?
Maria
>>295055 Nope. I picked out a huawei phone years ago because it was relatively cheap and for whatever reason I don't want anything to do with any of the big name brands. Then I just stuck with them.
I've seen /csg/ talk about them a few times though.
FormerRei@mobile
Test one two three Okay I seem to have fixed something by quitting firefox and forcing the process to stop
i wanna give a big shoutout to windows, which I use as my alarm, for rebooting in the middle of the fucking night due to automatic updates which can not be disabled let's give whoever made that decision a fucking bullet
but now I have a bus to catch after getting something to eat from the shop
Anno
>>295144 I was never coerced or forced into upgrading from Win8 to 10 on my old PC. It's really stupid how absurd the narrative of the whole situation has evolved over time.
>>295149 It wasn't done the same way for everyone The way the "upgrade to win10" thingy worked was partially based on your system settings So for some people (especially those who were not particularly computer literate) they ended up installing it unintentionally.
Anno
I'm pretty sure for those who are computer-illiterate enough to make that mistake, the change of features Win10 brings over Win8 are improvements anyway.
Anno
it's whatever
FormerRei@mobile
Also on some computers it would install itself if you didn't opt out.
Anno
People don't seem to complain about version updates in other programs or devices that happen automatically if you don't opt out. When was the last time you saw someone throw a tantrum because their phone updated to Android Toblerone or OS95.
FormerRei@mobile
Those are slightly different. Or Err On my phone i have automatic updates set to on But I still have to tap "install now" for it to install. It won't start automatically
FormerRei@mobile
Also I heard a rumor that mods on /a/ have started to delete kemono friends threads.
Maria
>>295155 Doesn't windows 10 straight up remove features Like you have to buy solatire from the windows store. I'd complain about that.
>>295159 Not entirely undserved vitrol in kadokawas case
Anno
>>295157 Probably because they're fucking sick of the regurgitated vitriol and worthless bitching that is all those threads are composed of by now. Can't blame them.
>>295158 You could, but you do realize you can literally Google "solitaire game" and probably get a BAZILLION instances of it at your fingertips. >>295162 Well fine, then I'm sorry if I don't care about your concerns.
>>295171 10 has a lot more, also its possible to remove from 7
FormerRei@mobile
Also they got rid of the dedicated debugging team in their development division and are having the programmers debug their own code to save money At the cost of quality
Anno
Is wholly irrelevant - No I already know how you would respond to that.
Is not particular to Windows 10. They probably would have done that anyway in some stupid timeline where they stopped creating new versions of Windows and stuck to 7.
Maria
The point was Sure it's just solitaire But frankly I don't like the idea of an upgrade taking something that used to be free and suddenly making it paid Like yanking a deck of cards out of your hand and forcing you to pay for it It rubs me the wrong way. I don't like it.
FormerRei@mobile
>>295174 I mean, maybe They certainly could But they didn't until 10 Also part of this is a symptom of the current
Anno
>>295175 To me that feels like something to just pick because you want to pick something to be angry about. Since there are endless instances of the game existing in a way you can get for free that exist out there.
Maria
>>295177 Maybe it is. But I'm sure Microsofts feelings won't be too hurt if I post on /moe/ calling them faggots for it.
Anno
I don't care if Microsoft is bothered by it or not. It feels pretty ridiculous to get so hot and bothered by it. Just go get your Solitaire fix elsewhere if you don't want to pay.
FormerRei@mobile
Also when 8 came out a lot of people called it shit, but eventually it ended up getting better. So far from what I've read, 10 has not
Maria
>>295179 And I think it's ridiculous to make someone pay for something that was free in the previous version
Anno
>>295180 Well then read this. Win10 is by and far either totally indistinguishble to 8.1 or an improvement over it. I moved from one to the next and that's how I've found it.
>>295181 It's still free! Why are you so determined that it has to be Microsoft's Solitaire you're playing?
Maria
>>295182 It doesn't. In fact I don't even play solitaire. I'm just saying it's dumb that it happened. It's the principle of it all.
Anno
So there's no reason to be annoyed over it! It's like choosing to not shop at a store because they no longer carry a brand of mineral water you don't even drink!
Anno
Or, because I know what your counter-argument to that would be, here's a more narrow analogy. It's like chosing to no longer buy a bag of chips because it no longer comes with a complimentary sauce packet that you threw out without ever dipping the chips in anyway. Your experience is not diminished by the change, no one's experience is not diminished by the change because Solitaire exists in forms far more numerous. Nothing is different because of it.
Maria
>>295185 It's more like if I bought a product that came with something installed, for free, and then one day an update came out that suddenly made it not free. Or like if I bought a bag of chips, and then after I bought the bag the shop keeper
Paint has been replaced with a new pre-installed graphics application though. I mean sure it's not the same but in the same way having your rusty, clanking bicycle being replaced with a clean, more-oiled one isn't the same.
make it to the psych on time went to the doc to get my sick note on sick leave out the week so I don't gotta worry about tomorrow at least might get an urgent-type appointment for tomorrow to look at this bullshit
I don't like being home when I've been so unstable at work already
>wake up to message from someone in my cohort >"I think I'm contacting hikikomori. I'm starting to enjoy staying home more than ever before." please don't do such things to me
TalesofNukes !5cY5Lovers
She shouldn't talk to shut ins
TalesofNukes !5cY5Lovers
they
Kirara
a dread disease ;_;7
TalesofNukes !5cY5Lovers
I got atk ploy 1 did I do good
Kirara
panic ploy?
moon
sorry i can't come in to work today i'm fragmenting
And it does, in fact, encrypt SMS - this is the primary reason people use it.
sk
End to end or does it go through a middleman\have a master key?
Actually what service would ever say they have a master key lmao
FormerRei@mobile
It supports end to end And anti man in the middle stuff Although it's not unbreakable You can still get some stuff from people
FormerRei@mobile
>>295261 The encrypted messages technically aren't sms Also for obvious reasons, messages are sent unencrypted when communicating with people who don't have signal
FormerRei@mobile
But yeah, signal is very good
Kirara
>>295264 even though officially it's called sms and everyone says it's sms and it's considered sms it's not sms?
>>295266 I don't think its officially called sms Anyways When sending encrypted messages it does not use the sms protocol So its literally not sms It just happens to be a service that lets you send short messages
>>295278 Okay, people can call it that, but it doesn't refer to itself as such on its website. And it primarily does not use the sms protocol.
Kirara
yes, it does refer to itself as such it says that it is in the app
Kirara
sms =/= sms protocol
FormerRei@mobile
>>295281 Only in the sense that I have to say "sms protocol" when talking to people who either don't really know the difference between IM on a phone and actual sms or people who are intensely descriptivist to the point of making technical language lose its meaning.
Kirara
sms is a catch-all term for text message
FormerRei@mobile
>>295283 Okay sure I guess. But in the context of this conversation I was trying to refer to the fact the signal does not send encrypted messages using the sms protocol. And we were bickering over the meaning of it in this context. This isn't a sarcastic question, do you think it would be easier for you if I were to refer to technical protocols by their ietf/iso/IEEE designations so we don't have to argue about wgat words mean? *what
FormerRei@mobile
Or like say "in this context when I say SMS I am referring to the protocol described in the IETF RFC5724 known as URI Scheme for Global System for Mobile Communications (GSM) Short Message Service (SMS)"
>>295297 Uh, one sec Smart launcher Twitter Discord Mortplayer and foobar MX player is good if you ever watch anime or whatever quickpic soundcloud's good for podcasts, sucks it has no download button thou twilight's good
i have a burner flip phone you can get burner smartphones now i think it's kind of pointless to get a nice burner phone though isn't that kind of ridiculous?
>>295330 Yeah, although it depends on what you want to do with it Oh yeah That reminds me That new Nokia modern version of the 3310 should be out by now
It's a good idea to have a burner phone. I would never sell drugs or anything.
I work with the feds, though, remember? So, you never know what's going to happen.
>>295336 No, I have a Google number for that. If you give your burner phone number out to people, it makes it easier to find out that the burner phone is affiliated with you.
I should probably get one too actually but I can't afford it And I'd have to register it on my name anyway so
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>295337 and it will be around when earth gets swallowed by the sun and when the sun dissipates into tiny particles and universe dies of heat death and final black holes irradiate out and then only nokia 3310s float in the infinite empty space
I guess yeah I don't really need to worry too much over here, but I probably should make a bit more preparations just in case than I have a bug out bag is something that's useful for anyone
FormerRei@mobile
I don't currently have a proper bug out back constructed.
>I've read at least 2 things of theirs the last year I thought were interesting and nobody else was writing about >what were they about? >I don't remember
>May 1, 1945. Berlin. As the Red Army raises the Soviet flag, a group of Nazi officers conduct a ritual using the slaughter in the city to bring back the LDO, supermen whose coming would bring the world's destruction. Their success remains unknown.
>Present day. Suwahara City. Ren Fujii spends his days at the hospital due to a violent fight with his best friend, Shirou. He tries to value what he has left to him, but he is haunted by Shirou's words: "Everyone who remains in this city eventually loses their minds." and a recurring dream of a guillotine, murderers, and the black clad knights pursuing them.
Revolution means they get to draw exactly the cute girls they want
Kirara
after the revolution is over they are very dedicated to their work
Kirara
>>295392 yeah this they're motivated by the completion of the project they can survive with what they make even though it's hard and that's good enough for them generally because >>295396
Then shouldn't they be exactly the people who'd be really hard in with liberating them in choosing what projects to work on and stuff?
Kirara
animators generally only work on projects they want to
sk
The Japanese are hardcore, man
Kirara
yeah revolution is unlikely in japan because the people are very collective in nature and don't want to disrupt things, as a cultural tenant tenet* revolution means mass disruption and inconvenience for a lot of people and the japanese are trained to live with the unhappiness for the sake of national unity
fuck, i can't into Bs and Vs anymore because of Japan
>>295467 They have high social standing, but people look down on them because they hail from poor people. Only other high society looks down on them, really.
Because it's super Jaden It can't be put into words It's REALLY Jaden
FormerRei@mobile
>>295505 Okay sure The thing was announced before Jaden was involved though
sk
>I CAN SEE YOU BITCH Oh my god the writing
Anno
>>295506 Sure, but evidently people see Jaden in the finished product. Something isn't set in stone the moment it's announced. Hell it isn't even set in stone after it is released to the public.
They're saying stuff like in 50+ claims of ISIS to an incident, only 3 were false, and although they typically exagerate death tolls, they very rarely claim things that weren't them
if it was ISIS, the people at ISIS AND this guy are fucking idiots with brainpower deserving of losing any and all engagements Holy shit you convert a millionaire and go "Hey dude shoot up a country concert lmao"
Kirara
why? they were extremely successful
you have it wrong ISIS militants decide where they want to shoot up and when and then do it
Maria
>>295521 they shot a bunch of people but what did that achieve
sk
>>295521 No you don't understand they converted a MILLIONAIRE and used this asset for a fucking hit
but this is also good for ISIS if true because it shows that nobody is safe anyone could be ISIS if even this old, white millionaire is it will scare people
Kyannyagi
Like people aren't already scared of old white rich men.
Isis train people be fantanical westerner haters. I don't think they indoctrinate them with terrorism financing or any other stuff I mean they probably wouldn't even trust him.
i dunno how isis works but however it is they work, it's stupid if this was somehow the pragmatic choice for someone with that much wealth
Kirara
ISIS works like this.
Someone converts and is radicalized. They search for contacts or someone puts them in contact with ISIS leaders in a chatroom. The ISIS leader tells them how things are done, rarely knowing anything about the leader. The leader prays for them, tells them the best way to do it, how not to get caught in preperation, and cuts off contact. The new militant goes and does something, dies. ISIS claims responsibility.
Anno
>>295533 You're getting off track the moment you try to reason pragmatism into the thought process.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>295534 or they travel to syria, are given a gun and told to run and shoot in that general direction
Rukmini is good, she has done a lot of investigation into ISIS, even accessed their chat rooms and stuff like that, planned an attack with them, etc, to learn how they do what they do. The thread I linked is just about Vegas, though.
i dont feel accomplished after a day's work anymore, nor am i motivated to do the next day of work i would like to quit and just start proper writing i dont know if it's safe but i feel too ground out from my work to want to write afterwards
>>295580 que >>295581 probably a variety of sources as well as going back to handmade crafts blogging and crafting go pretty much hand-in-hand anyway i'd like to have a tech blog, i think i've got a lot of value to contibrute but the hard work of blogging is in promotion, not writing or research maybe things are easier with twitter these days
>>295587 i dont see why not >>295586 there's not much that i can change about anything in my current environment temporary living situations are heck because you always feel like you're waiting just permanently in limbo
>>295601 i was kind of satiring the self-subscription to a label there and that they'd get uppity about being generalized by others when theyve generalized themselfs
>>295607 I would say that it fits into the gamer category if you game as a functional hobby, either as a social activity or functional, regular stress relief or engagement whether someone calls themself a gamer is a different thing though i know that i picked up gaming originally because i had to have something to get my mind disengaged from unhealthy thoughts and stressors
>>295615 now that's what i call praxis would be a good album to listen to while reading about mao's classicide of the landlords
sk
It can't be a term for 'people who play games' because that's like fucking 80% of the population seriously it's retarded to think that's what's meant by anyone using the term other than in the context of trying to muddying the water
everyone plays games, but there's just a lot more interesting things to interface with than video games i game in information
Maria
>>295618 play games passionately Like most people read a book now and then, but that doesn't make them bookworms I watch movies but I'm not a moviebuff
>>295626 It's not a matter of agreeing. What we're presenting to you are facts.
The term "Gamer" refers to a cultural group. The term runner refers to "one who runs".
sk
>>295626 because it's just not like "why is 'fish' not the same as 'boar'???" because it's not, rika It's not a 'whby' there's no answer to that 'why'
moon
>>295627 i do feel as though you're using the figureheads as representations of all those encompassed in the culture though going hxc on twitch is one thing, but the people watching that just to see good players and get an idea of how to boost their game are still participating in that culture
Maria
>>295627 >gamer refers to a cultural group says you
>>295632 If someone plays a large amount of games, then there's no reason not to refer to them as a gamer. Games are their hobby.
Kirara
>>295634 they are someone that plays games, yes calling them gamers is saying that anyone that plays games is part of this cultural group which is wrong
I want you all to know that you're discussing a thing that even the game industry struggles in terms of agreeing on. This is still a live point of tension.
>>295640 Well, surely you can admit that the situation with runners at least sets some precedent that people who partake in an activity may be called by a word that indicates that they merely partake in that activity on some level, right?
>>295643 Absolutely. However, you cannot remove the context of "gamer" from the word and expect people to go along with it. The word gamer carries along with it context that isn't present for something like running.
People totally decide the context. That's WHY "gamer" is so much more likely to be considered toxic than something like "runner". Because the people within that realm gave it that context and maintain it. There are lots of people who decide the meaning is different for themselves when they claim it. Not everyone wants the term to be considered a toxic thing. It just ends up holding one because of how some of us carry it.
sk
look the thing is if you go by "people who play a lot of games", 40% of them or something is women in their 40s that's NOT the people referred to it's not the people even gamers themselves mean when they say 'gamer' >>295653 lots of games phone game s
moon
>>295648 >nobody decides context >we can't view the word without the context that i know it from my experiences
Maria
>>295651 do they play lots of games or is it more like lots of one game Like how my mum plays hours of candy crush but it's JUST candy crush
Was the anime called "gamers" about people who aren't actually gamers? A few of them were kind of casual, and none of them were really obnoxious about the fact that they played games.
Maria
next let's argue over the word otaku that's a fun debate
moon
>>295655 at least there's a lot more rigidity on that
>>295652 People are more than welcome to deny reality, but it's silly to. You can't have a discussion with other people about a culture if you're going to deny the context that makes that culture. Saying we can't discuss the context of the term gamer is saying "You can't argue anything I say because your point isn't relevant" which is false.
>>295654 That's also cultural. There isn't the same gamer culture in Japan. Being a gamer in Japan and being a gamer in the west are different things.
Maria
>>295656 yeah but we can get into the differences between using it across cultures and languages
>>295660 You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding here.
I'm saying the context occurs naturally. We don't decide context. The context is there. The culture that is associated with "gamer" is part of the context of the term.
gamers are the group that actually LIVE gaming consume gamer media, play games sure, read gaming journalism, watch gaming content like TB jimquisition and whatever on the youtubes, watch esports that's what a fucking gamer is
It's actually a pretty complex concept because the meaning holds different for many people. One can be pretty casual at games and still call themselves a gamer openly. The idea that it hinges entirely on how far you got into it or how toxic you've ended up is the mileage that varies.
Maria
>>295662 what about gamers who despise gaming journalism, e-celebs, and esports are they no longer gamers
>>295663 I think the Japanese sense is more intensive than just "anyone that plays games", but my level of gaming would probably be described as being a gamer in the context of Japan.
>>295667 so half of /v/ aren't gamers well actually half of them don't even play games so you're probably right anyway
sk
/v/ is more or less exactly the kind of people who fall into the demographic
Kyannyagi
Gamer in Japan generally seems to invoke the image of someone who plays those arcade machines and plays console games. At least it is a the strong impression I get. >>295671 You should do this. Become a Guilty Gear champion
it's a result of playing games being treated as some sort of fucking disease in the west for the majority of our childhood, which has festered into an insanely reactionary and misogynist subculture labeled gamer because that's the common thread
>>295662 It is a difficult concept to grasp though, because in nearly any other context simply engaging in the activity on a casual level would earn you the label.
Someone who plays basketball a night a week is still a basketball player. Someone who runs sometimes is still a runner. Someone who swims occasionally is still a swimmer. Someone who plays chess from time to time is a chess player.
Maria
>>295669 Okay so let's get this straight Under your definition, if someone plays a wide variety of games, but does not partake in any of the 'culture' surrounding games, then they are not a gamer
Kyannyagi
>>295673 I don't think I agree with that. A lot of these make me think that someone does them on a professional level. If someone says they are a basketball player but they only do it a night a week that I don't think are a basketball player.
I wouldn't argue about a runner because to me that doesn't invoke the feeling of it being a profession.
I think it is probably the context you say you are a basketball player I guess but it feels illegitimate to called yourself one for a casual hobby in a way
Kirara
>>295673 then let's separate gamers and game players that seems like an easy way to differentiate this
>>295672 That's just a fragment of gamer culture. An exceptionally LARGE fragment of it. Perhaps, the most visible fragment of it. But it does not encapsulate the term in its entirety. >>295678 I don't defend that.
sk
it's the dominant part of it
That's what people are talking about, and it's what's being actually defended
moon
>>295661 yeah but you're drawing pretty narrowly on what does or doesnt constitute the culture and i mean, especially if you aren't part of the culture, how you gonna do that
>>295677 No I meant it's what's being defended when people kneejerk and defend 'gamers' from all criticism
it's not that playing games is wrong Like what the fuck where did that idea even COME From
What, game revieweres and shit are attacking PEOPLE WHO PLAY VIDEO GAMES as a whole? that's a retarded concept these journos are fucking diseases in their own right sure but not for this exact part
Maria
>>295675 How is a night a week of basketball not a basketball player They aren't professional true. However they are playing basketball. Literally a basketball player. In the most pure sense of the word play.
i feel like they'd say "i play basketball" instead of "i'm a basketball player"
Kirara
it's a matter of identity
when you say "player" you're no longer saying "one who plays x", it becomes an identity thing, a label
Kyannyagi
People say they want to be basketball players even when they play basketball in their spare time. It to me carries a sense of professionalism calling yourself a basketball player instead that you play basketball. *instead of
moon
>>295680 drawing narrowly and drawing a narrow line are totally different things FUCK i've got too much tourettes for this man
>>295691 I don't have a bicycle. So no. If I did and rode it occasionally, I would.
>>295695 I don't ride bikes now though, because I don't have one. I consider myself a swimmer though, because I swim when the weather is nice enough to.
>>295693 Isn't it important that it is self-identification. Someone can label me a gamer but I can refute that label regardless of the fact that I game and qualify for the label.
sk
so if SWIMMER CULTURE then was somehow criticised, you'd feel a need to defend it? Because occasionally you swim?
>>295697 No, but I don't really feel a need to defend cultures or anything like that. I guess if someone said "people who swim are tools" I'd be like "hey, I swim!"
>>295705 yeah but you wouldn't assume you're the one being talked about if there was an article about 'swimmers' cause that's just a thing you do like a human being, it's not who you fucking ARE
>>295712 Yes, I am not offended when people write things about gamers either. I don't really see how the two situations are different from one another.
Kyannyagi
I honestly find labels distasteful. You can control the identification when you label yourself, you give part of description away to others. So how you have described yourself may no longer hold up or be distorted by others who have adopted that label.
Labels just mean you open yourself to being misinterperted and I really don't like the idea that someone builds an image of me from a general word
>>295711 You said that being a gamer is a mindset and then // well separating whether or not its cancerous, you're saying that the mindset of the gamer is what makes the gamer what they are. You also mentioned toxicity so I can only assume it's the worst ends of that culture. And then you called it cancerous. That's what I mean by you drawing a line as to where the culture lies.
Maria
Does it really matter all that much when no one really likes the culture that much anyway
what, you think nobody's actively participating in, tolerating, enabling and enjoying the culture 'gamers' as a subculture have created for themselves? that's fucking delusional
Maria
>>295720 I don't think anyone here particularly cares about much other than games themselves and content that relates directly to games
>>295716 I'm saying I have an opinion of that culture. You're assuming I'm drawing lines, but having an opinion doesn't mean I'm drawing lines. Yes, it means that some things are being attributed to gamer culture - this is a necessary component of any culture. But culture is also quite variable and it's generally impossible to draw lines as to what explicitly constitutes a culture.
So to say I'm making decisions and drawing lines as to what makes the culture what it is isn't quite right. My opinion of the culture isn't relevant to discussion - only that there is a culture.
It seems to me like what we're seeing here is an instance of a group of people being obnoxious enough to co-opt a term that would otherwise be innocuous. That's the best way to explain the difference in why someone who runs is a runner but someone who plays games is not a gamer.
It's not really about culture, it's just that no one really wants to be called a gamer.
>>295729 you're drawing narrowly if you think interfacing with a culture and being a participant is different han being a part of the culture if you're not part of the culture and you're participating in something, then it's a demonstration of the culture at best, but you're really interfacing with some other tactile interest like journalism or reporting or entertainment media or just plain entertainment
drawing narrowly is to pull a sample from a small pool not to draw lines or boundaries on a definition you havent said explicitly that X or Y aren't gaming culture but you dismissed it you're not able to put lines on a definition of it because you're drawing from your interpretation of what the culture is which, as someone who isn't part of the culture, will always be a skewed perception which is just how it will always be from that vantage it's not you, but it's just the nature of it
>>295730 A lot of people want to be called a gamer. But yes, the term "gamer" is associated with a group of people that is different from people who play games. That's a cultural thing. The term gamer has been coopted by a culture.
When I think about it if someone points to someone and say "he is a footballer" I // and then says "he works at a bank and play football on the weekend" I would think it was more correct to say "He is a Banker who plays football (on the weekend)"
Maria
>>295722 Going out to a university is pretty big progress for a hikkikomori
>>295731 >>>295729 (You) you're drawing narrowly if you think interfacing with a culture and being a participant is different han being a part of the culture wow that didn't work
Anyway, I disagree. You can absolutely interface with a culture without being a part of the culture. Goyim do this very frequently with Jewish culture.
As for drawing narrowly, you're making an assumption about my thought processes here. The fact that I have an opinion does not reflect drawing from a small pool. Moreover, you're assuming I've never been part of gamer culture, when I did previously identify as a gamer in the past and partake in gamer culture. You're making a lot of assumptions and really reading deeply into an incredibly vague statement I made.
what the fuck even is the discussion at this point I thought it was some sort of disagreement about 'gamer' as a term not strictly referring to 'people who occassionaly play video games'
Kyannyagi
The point is people are just clarifying their positions on what they have said in the discussion.
Kyannyagi
>>295737 > when I did a gamer in the past and partake in gamer culture. Super lewd sempai-sama-chan
Kyannyagi
oh it didn't show >>295750 Dammit it was a super lewd frontpage!
How about art? If you draw in your own room but don't participate in art culture, are you truly an artist? Art has a very strong identity and culture just like gaming does.
I don't really feel like continuing this argument, though. I know that none of us will change our positions and we all understand the other person's position, and it's a really boring argument.
Kyannyagi
Maybe art critic would be similar. since that is strongly tied to the identity of some snobby rich person. >>295758 Fuck, that was quick. I didn't know people could respond so fast.
sk
i dont evne know wha tthe argument is if we all agree gamers as a subculture exist outside the literal definition
>>295725 The part where I completely disagree with you is that you are saying that gamer, specifically, is a cultural thing. Whereas runner is "someone who runs". I run for trains. I am not a runner. Runners have a running culture. They do weird running shit and talk about weird running shit like clothing and ways to run and having a runner's high and live lifestyles that accommodate their running. Someone might only play tetris and not consider themselves a gamer because they aren't really adjacent to the culture, but someone else who only plays Tetris would. Someone else might still call BOTH of them gamers because they live to sell games to people whether they are engaged with the culture or not. It's true that there's a mindset but where that mindset is is very variable. You drew the line by saying not only that self-id'd gamers are cancerous and that you can't remove that context from what it means. You actually CAN remove (and add) different parts of the context. What that context is generally gets revealed as you engage in it. Just like how you engaged the context of the worst parts of the culture.
sk
>>295757 then eitehr come up with a separate term for the particular section meant by it or accept what people mean when they use the term
jesus fucking christ
moon
>>295754 i'd say my point on interfacing is still misunderstood a goyim wouldn't be able to interface with the jewish culture until they're significantly involved in the culture such that they're part of it -- they're reciprocally the same thing to interface with a system or be part of a system they can interact with jewish culture and do some jewish things with jewish people, but the culture itself isn't fully experienced from the outside it's a little dependent on my infosys oriented vocabulary but
>>295760 Why would I do that? There's no need to fix things that aren't broken!
Kyannyagi
wow I died. had to restart my browser >Out of sync: Couldn't copy file into place.
Wait lemme get off front page
sk
>>295775 it's clearly broken because you assume peope mean something they're EXPLICITLY telling you they don't not even to get political butr your're like the fucknuts who go "OH COMMUNISM IS THE USSR AND NOTHING ELSE" and refuse to even listen to what the FUCK is being said
Kyannyagi
>>295757 I agree, I just think that it is wholey undesirable label. I generally don't think I get on with people who call themselves gamers, it is simply a form of prejudice
Yuu
>>295779 If "gamer" means someone that is big on gamer culture, why is a "casual gamer" not someone who participates in gaming culture to some lesser degree?
Koi-
>>295785 The thing about "casual gamer" is that it is also used pejoratively as someone who seems like a
Kyannyagi
Server reset?
moon
>>295769 dropped but that's what i meant i don't think it's possible to truly participate or interface with a system from the outside you can interact with it, but the culture isn't able to be felt that way observed, interpreted, etc sure i mean i guess it doesnt matter
what was I talking about >>295786 >>295785 Right. Casual gamers are like the, and I am saying this from the specific viewpoint of someone who would consider "gamer" to mean one that is dipped in gamer culture, normies of the gaming community. That's why there's this concept of "REAL" gamers. Which in itself is also variable but quite often floats the definition that sk gave.
Kyannyagi
360 no scope
moon
>>295769 >>295793 what i've done here actually is draw a line about what is and isn't being part of the culture, though it's in generalizeable terms and not any case evidence which i think is the opposite of drawing narrowly, which i think also came across wrong i said sample pool without much depth to illustrate what i meant by narrowly, maybe shallowly would have been a better word but that's generally just condescending sounding i meant a shallow draw from the forms of the system and not deep enough to see the intersection ive described above
it wasn't about // i'm just going to stop. i can't really explain systems dynamics without just being really autistic about it
moon
it's frustrating to live fro // from a vantage point where it's difficult to communicate with people and there's always assumptions about what i mean and then what i'm saying comes across as assumptions that's happened more times than i'd like and it's always internally frustrating and i just don't like it
oh right there's a new thread isn't there >>295809 That's what makes text hard. I believe that writing puts a weight on the writer to convey it correctly.
everyone's so anticipatory that i can't even say anything without someone interpreting a tone over it i mean except maybe kannagi, never had that problem there it's really distressing
