I got an email from the Society for Personality Assessment telling me that almost every student travel grant for getting to the annual conference gets granted if requested before the deadline, but the student travel grant is $200, and the conference is 4 days and in Washington, D.C.
Koi-
>>284841 wikipedia is lying to me This looks like topology to me
But I'd still have like $600 in hotel fees. Probably more, since the conference is at a Marriot. Oh, they actually have the conference prices here. $219 per night for four days. lol
moon
>>284843 topology is information too >>284848 yeah thats what i mean $200 wont allow you to go if you were previously unable to afford the trip
Maria
>>284848 Why does a conference cost so much to attend
Kirara
The conference is free to attend if you're a member, which I am.
Kirara
>>284849 If I were a professional and not a student, I could get a $1000 travel grant. Isn't that ridiculous?
rook
>>284848 just sleep at the shitty motel 6 that's forty minutes away
Kirara
>>284853 i'm not going to stay in a shitty motel 6 in one of the most dangerous places in the US!
Maria
I'm sure the conference place has a nice carpet to rest on
Kirara
wow the soviets are in New Yokio what a weird show
Anno
On account of having made a lot of pasta lately, I've got the method of making single bowls of it down pat. It's nice to have easy, lazy food on nights where I'm pretty pooped.
rook
>>284854 just be more dangerous than everyone around you and you'll be a-ok
Kirara
>Walk into a big-time psychological conference dressed like a yakuza with a metal baseball bat over my shoulder
Kirara
I don't have any colleagues I could share a room with at the conference because my colleagues are all women. And it'd be kind of cruel to bring Fish with me. Maybe I can get a grant from my school, too.
Maria
>>284860 Just cross dress and assume a new identity
Kirara
I can't do that with my colleagues!
Koi-
huh? Didn't you already?'
Kirara
I didn't assume a new identity. Maria's saying that I should trick them into thinking I'm a woman so I can get a room with them for the conference.
>>284876 Because I'd be betraying their trust and committing a crime and it'd be a lot of work and it'd fail no matter what ultimately.
Maria
I remember this one thread on /adv/ where some kid talked about how he was impersonating his missing drug addict sister or something and massively improved her grades and social standings
>>284878 Is that an actual law? Thou shalt not impersonate a woman to bunk with women? You wouldn't be betraying their trust because you'd be taking on a new identity. It's the new identity that's betraying their trust, but not Kirara.
>>284881 You don't have to act lewd and you can just shower and change at seperate times
sk
i gotta actually read stirner and get unspooked THERES SO MUCH TO READ
Kirara
>>284879 It would basically be lewd and lascivious behavior or peeping or something.
Kirara
>>284879 Doesn't matter. Impersonating a woman and being in that situation would be illegal conduct.
Maria
>>284882 What even makes it peeping? If a lesbian bunks with girls but doesn't disclose her status as lesbian, is she peeping?
>>284890 If you think like that you'll never get anywhere
Kirara
I wouldn't want to do it even if it could be done.
moon
is it really that big a deal you live in a totally different world than i in high school i saw my friends' bodies all the time and it was never weird and i didn't get anything out of it either it was just girls being girls
Maria
>>284892 I'll do it in order to prove that it can be done Do the impossible See the invisible
>>284891 he'd have to get laser hair removal on his FACE to even have a 0.1% chance of not getting caught.
Kirara
>>284893 Yes, it is a big deal. Most women would be very upset to find that they're unwittingly sharing a room with a man that has seen their bodies without their consent.
And most women won't consent to sharing a room with a man with which they aren't involved with. Moreover, I have a girlfriend, so it wouldn't be proper for me to share a room with a woman.
Anno
>>284894 his superb jewish facial hair genetics are too powerful to be waxed.
>>284904 >laser What if we give Kirara a mask and he can claim that he wears it because of horrible burns? Except really it's just because he can't afford laser hair removal
>>284948 i mean i don't want to move anywhere right now.
moon
sorry
Anno
what
Yuu
People from the office went to burger king so I went along and I had the chicken parmesan burger and that was a mistake. It waged war on my stomach and my stomach lost.
Kirara
What a terrible mistake. It's all that grease and poor kitchen conditions.
Anno
>burger king
moon
>>284951 what about if i got a place down there you still wouldnt?
Yuu
Burger king is pretty low tier but the one around here is actually nice. I think that's because of a reason I won't say It's nicer than anything but the nearby wendy's I think the chicken parm burger was just a bad choice, it was not very good.
I usually get chicken fries when I happen to be there.
>>284957 you'd have to move really really close or have a car, cause i'm literally a 23 year old that walks everywhere
Yuu
>>284959 Because it will be one of those "so rika" comments.
Anno
there's a bunch of cheap apartments around here though
Kirara
>>284961 But I like Rika and all the things that make Rika Rika so I'm interested!
Maria
>>284956 Burger King is pretty good Except the burgers themselves The fries and the sundaes and stuff are great But the burgers are not
moon
>>284960 im tryin hard i tried hard to get that place in tennessee too rip
Yuu
>>284963 It will feed an opinion that people have about me that I don't want people to have about me!
Maria
Out of the big fast food places Burger King has the best aesthetic since it's got the 50s diner look going for it McDonalds is just sorta plain and boring looking
>>284966 what if i told you i don't know what a "so rika" moment is and i don't have any cartoon charicature of you pictured in my mind so the reason why you like chicken fries isn't going to influence my opinion of you negatively and you should tell me for pure curiosity's sake
>>284982 Oh, good. I'm glad that it was something, well, maybe not quite innocent, but you know.
Anno
The Wendy's we stopped at in Roanoke looked all right from the outside. Though the service was a little janky.
Anno
those MOTHER FUCKERS locked the door an hour before their closing hour i don't even care that the food was good and they gave us free fries we should have robbed them
Yuu
>>284981 Well, let's just say it's especially nice and clean and leave it at that.
Anno
God kill me, just say it.
Kirara
>>284984 they fucked up my burger but they did give us a free frostie
Kirara
What it really comes down to is SES I think. Rika is most likely saying that most of the fast food restaurants are worked by people of low SES and are therefore a little dirtier than she'd like.
That, and the other place has a cutie she likes.
Anno
>>284986 No I don't want to leave it at that. It's a nice and clean establishment and that's cool and all but what does that have ANYTHIGN to do with chicken fries? it's a really simple question, why do you prefer the chicken fries when you go to burger king?
moon
>>284974 i'll look at prices and things down there i dont wanna wait forever to live my life you know
Anno
>>284989 I did eventually figure out what you were saying but in the meanwhile I'd found enough time to search this up.
Yuu
>>284991 It really doesn't have anything to do with chicken fries. I said it was a relatively nice burger king so I don't mind eating there.
I do prefer the chicken fries because they aren't bad and it's a low calorie meal.
sk
The people working there are cleaner than others is certainly one way to put it
Kirara
>>284994 Does burger king have the chicken fries again?
moon
she's saying they dont hire niggers
Anno
>>284988 I wonder how many people order custom burgers at that Wendy's.
Anno
Hello Did you see the news OPM by JC staff Index S3 I forgot the third thing
>>284994 Oh okay, so why do you like the place if burger king is not that good? You could find another place with similar qualities that serves better food.
Anno
>hmm these fries are pretty unhealthy >how do we make them more unhealthy >chicken >fries sasuga america >>>/watch?v=hQqP2pSsKB8
Anno
>>285000 I was talking about that earlier this morning. The Index news is still entirely rumors, but rumors extremely grounded in reliable origin.
>>284992 i'm sure you won't be waiting around for me forever >>285013 but couldn't you just go to a place that's better than burger king that has good service, too? if it was just quality of service, you wouldn't go to the burger king. what is it about the burger king that you like?
Yuu
>>285014 That makes your liquid diet even more weird then.
>>285017 That Mario Rabbits game looks pretty fun. The Switch needs a few more decent titles and I will strongly consider getting one. Right now 350 is a bit much for me to feel good about the purchase though.
>>285031 the kids stopped coming around this neighborhood like 10 years ago it's awful makes me want to go to the rich white hood and start smashing their pumpkins
Anno
I think there's a fair bit of trick-or-treeters in my neighbourhood. It seems like for all the kids that were around my age that have now grown up, there's been about the same somehow flowing in here. They all stop so much earlier than I remember stopping though. Nowadays they're all back home before 21:00.
Kirara
>>285032 do it while wearing a pumpkin on your head
Anno
>>285035 when kids come near i will give them a fucking variety bag of candy an entire bag tell them to destroy the establishment and free the candy for the underclass
Kirara
>>285036 handing out kitkat usbs with the Unabomber manifesto on them
moon
handing out government secrets to trick-or-treaters
Yuu
I don't get a lot of trick or treaters here, thankfully.
Anno
My neighbour across the street has his birthday on Halloween. For some reason this means he's always gone all-out with his decoration set-ups, doing stuff like having dismembered Barbies rotating on a spit over a barbeque. I think another year he dressed up in like a man of straw and lay under his truck wheels. Looked pretty convincingly like a fake runover accident. And then as kids walked past he'd jolt upright and scare the shit out of them.
Kirara
i might go to my cohort's Halloween party this year im worried about being pressured into drinking though
Yuu
Oh, halloween parties are fun. You need to be careful about the alcohol though, yeah.
>>285044 just tell them you don't drink for religious reasons and they'll leave you alone most of them will be too drunk to understand
Kirara
they know i used to drink though i used to talk about getting wasted all the time and ive talked about booze recently too nobody knows i have a problem though so they might pressure me a little i think i can resist it but it would be really difficult
>>285050 oh, they'll probably pressure you anyways i guess. you could just say it became a big problem for you so you quit cold turkey. then they'll think you got balls.
Kirara
i don't want anyone to know i have a problem though it'd be really bad if they did
Anno
Just keep adamant that you don't drink anymore. I know they'll probably keep pestering you to regardles- >>285060 No let me finish I know what you're thinking. -regardless, but c'mon man. You've been through so much that's made you feel compelled to drink and you've put it off. Is your cohort pestering you to drink more pressure than the incoming terror of the hurricanes, or having to deal with a broken rib?
Kirara
it's easy to say that but it's easy to do that
Anno
>>285057 why would it be really bad? would your career be in jeopardy?
Kirara
>>285061 colleagues find out im an alcoholic which means that knowledge is free floating and won't be private if i ever do anything and get recognized, people will find out im an alcoholic it could also make getting a job more difficult and undermine my credibility
Anno
>>285063 listen to this headline though >"Former alcoholic, now Nobel Prize winner"
Yuu
Can't you just say you don't drink? People usually understand. Tell them your mom is a crazy alcoholic so you don't drink.
Kirara
>>285064 yeah but being an alcoholic will make things more difficult my options are:
1. hide it. no increase in life's difficulty. 2. dont hide it. life is harder.
moon
say you're on heart meds and can't drink both are true statements and they dont know they're unrelated
>>285067 but they already know that i have consumed alcohol while on my heart meds
>>285070 they can easily just google it and see that im lying
Anno
New meds, new rules?
Anno
>>285066 >no increase in life's difficulty no dude hiding it is an increase in difficulty you're just so specialized in secrecy you don't notice the demand
sk
>>285069 "I'm on new meds now, but I can't drink anymore"
anyway you can definitely go to a halloween party without drinking i think it would be a fun challenge
sk
wait did I cross a line?
Anno
>>285081 you moved when i said red light you're fucken dead kiddo
Anno
We had to read and do analytical shit on an article for my class tonight called "Is Google Making Us Stupid?" It's like ten years old but it talks about how the constant use of the Internet seems to be having an impact on people's ability to do deep reading, getting properly immersed in long-form writing. The article was pretty interesting.
sorry im such a piece of garbage faggot cunt that should strangle himself with a chloroform blanket
Kirara
>>285086 you didn't do anything wrong >>285087 you didn't do anything wrong either
Yuu
>>285084 Well, it is true that when I don't know something I just pull out my phone and google it. I wonder if that makes a person dumber though. You'd think more readily available information would make someone smarter.
Anno
To be honest the title was kind of clickbait-y, the article in-depth wasn't really talking at all about people getting dumber. It did draw parallels between the introduction of the Internet and other Information Technologies, like the mechanical clock , printing press, or typewriter. It even talked about Socrates' concerns about the use of writing for information retention way back in Ancient Greece. There's some pretty funny lines of thought from that.
Anno
>>285088 i've done a lot of wrong things i should be hanged i should be shot by a squad like the fucking dog i am in front of my family
Yuu
>>285090 Well, I do think that the constant presence of easily available distractions has contributed to people having shorter attention spans. People will zone out and start playing with phones and stuff if they aren't immediately entertained every second.
I try to make an effort to resist the temptation to pull out my phone at every given opportunity.
Kirara
>>285092 i mean like me too but whatever i would prefer us both to stay alive
sk
>>285084 I think there's something to it It's not so much 'the internet' as it is the ready and constant availability of entertainment, though
Getting into a book can be hard
Anno
>>285084 What's really making people stupid is when games like fire emblem falsely display probability. e.g saying 80% when in reality it's a 99% chance because people have become accustomed to 80% being ALWAYS hits it's enabling a culture of stupidity really grinds my gears oniifam
Kirara
people that don't immerse themselves in deep reading wouldn't be reading books more without the internet it's whatever same shit different medium people said the same thing about tv
One of the things that got me kind of stirred up though, was a bit of the article towards the end about how we're becoming what the author called "pancake people" a person's identity stretched too thin over too much information that we become thin personalities. I think that part in particular was the most nonsense naysaying from the author. The entire article took on a bit of a worrywart tone overall, but that one felt the most to me as him going "well we don't know what the future will hold but it probably can't be good." What was more annoying was our professor seemed pretty onboard with that particular negativity. He's normally a guy I can agree with but this one was a bit frustrating to have lectures on.
sk
>>285098 It's not that reading is becoming less popular, there's just more alternatives really
People who before might have chosen to read now have way more options for what to do with their time, even without leaving their armchair They could read, or they could watch their favorite show or whatever, lots of things that you just didn't have the option of before So I don't see why people wouldn't be reading less
Kirara
reading is regarded as the ultimate medium by most people just because it's the oldest medium but reading is hard and has never really been popular in modern society internet and new mediums are good because it gives us new ways to get information
I'm not making value judgements on how people spend their free time I'm saying even those who'd read before now have other things they could end up doing instead Not because 'the internet is bad', but because the internet is there, and has stuff to do with your time
sk
And I don't think reading in itself makes you smarter to begin with It doesn't matter where you got the information A book isn't more valuable than an article on the internet inherently >>285109 That's true, but I don't think watching makes you dumb It's a bit less active to watch stuff though
Kirara
well reading and watching tv affect the brain differently
Yuu
I wouldn't be concerned with reading so much as people's very short attention spans these days. I am guilty of having a very short attention span too.
Old people have crazy long attention spans.
Anno
>>285108 sure it is an article is what 5 pages of information? a book is a couple of hundred
Kirara
>>285108 neither makes you dumb being dumb makes you dumb
>>285106 The article is available freely online if you want to look it over. I think you might get a kick out of it as an information nerd.
Kirara
>>285110 a short attention span is not really a problem imo especially for people with adhd
sk
>>285112 Well the only meaningful way for one of them to make you dumb is for one of them to make you less smart than the other would I don't think anyone below the age of like 50 is suggesting TV literally decreases your intelligence
moon
>>285115 i really think it's about wording short attention span stems from so much perception of what should be nobody refers to it as increased ability to interface with new systems
Anno
The article also really engages in the Google's information gathering is evil mindset. Or I guess my professor interpreted it that way. I didn't really find it evil or concerning when I read the article over myself. It's like "Google's mission is to organize the world's information and provide it universally to everyone." And the professor was really hung up on organizing and universally providing it as either impossible or an evil. That wasn't something I could really agree with.
Yuu
>>285115 Well Ijsut have plain old ADD. I think my short attention span is bad for my productivity sometimes, though it does help me multitask.
>>285119 add is adhd add is a subset of adhd yeah not everyone with adhd is hyperactive they have specifiers that say whether you're hyperactive or not adhd is the diagnosis either way
moon
>>285119 it's attention deficit slash hyperactive disorder it's two spectra clumped into one category
Kirara
access to information is considered evil by many because if the poor could learn anything they wanted, the rich would lose their monopoly on information and their standing
>>285122 How'd you even sell books if everyone could just go get books for free?
Samu 🌈💕 !KW2DbpWwls
can i bid all?
Anno
>>285125 some people enjoyed books so much they wanted to have access to the book whenever they wanted for the rest of their life
Yuu
>>285120 >>285121 I don't like the H though. I have always rejected it because I am not hyperactive. The hyperactive kids were problem students.
Anno
Oh the entire mission was “to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful”. My professor also got kind of worked up over the "useful" part of the mission too. Sort of a "who gets to judge what makes information useful?" He was even talking about how not all information is useful. I was really tempted to try and pick a fight over all information being useful, but by then my caffeine high was running down and I wasn't feeling it.
Kirara
>>285128 okay so you're not h big deal adhd is still the classification
>>285146 *disappears like my chance at a normal psyche*
Anno
I also might've made my class and professor think I'm a little bit mentally unhinged. I was trying to explain how I struggle with formal articles, but articles with narration that still provide the same level of information can retain my attention fine. And as example I used how I've read long-form investigative journalism articles about disappearances or serial killings that form a narrative story while retelling factual events. And after that the professor gave me a kind of look.
Anno
>>285147 *shatters you into a million pieces just like my parents' hopes when they had me*
>>285163 I'll let her you said that know Jesus phone posting is gay >>285161 like a third of the people who work here have watched at few eries series anime is mainstream
>>285173 younger millennials are still only really watching entry level stuff for the most part
sk
in my age range, at least the more popular anime are super mainstream
Like mentioned at work casually and stuff
phonebang
younger as in under 25
Kirara
yeah that's what in talking about
phonebang
i was just specifying realized i could've construed as young kids
Anno
>>285174 Must be a bit nice. I haven't really had anyone to in-person not be too worried about my hobbies with since college.
Kirara
i was actually thinking you meant like 13-18 by younger at first haha
Anno
i only know a couple people who have even watched anything that wasn't dubbed in real life they're pretty cool though i've only ever met one real weeblord i think
Kirara
but yeah people don't think you're a creepy weirdo for liking anime anymore
Yuu
I think most people my age have seen the basic ones but have very low power levels.
I know a bunch of guys who love Dragonball Z but they haven't seen much other than that.
sk
anime avatars on twitter are becoming a recognized political sphere, too anime isn't at all that obscure anymore
phonebang
power levels are low but it's not weird to like anime only to older millennials and other generations very common many are interested in it haven't watched most because time constraints millennials very busy
Anno
>>285185 Yeah but they'll think you're a bit weird if it comes out you're watching sixteen or twenty shows a season.
sk
>>285189 It's become a bit like A little less common TV shows
Most people have some knowledge of a few big ones, and might only watch those if any Others watch like, a LOT of TV
Kirara
yeah but that's not really something that would come out unless you're the absolute madman
Anno
i know a guy with the jolly roger from one piece tattooed on his bicep
Kirara
the upcoming hokuto no ken game will probably make things even more mainstream
phonebang
tv unwatched Netflix only or other streaming
Maria
My public policy professor talked about death note in a lecture
Anno
I think it can still be a little touch-and-go with people in their mid-twenties and older though. Some of them won't care but there's still enough that still remember anime as that thing only the weird losers would watch. When I was doing data entry at a -my last job, there were a number of 20-30 year olds on the team, and I would have only talked anime with one, maybe, MAYBE two of them. One guy in particular I knew I couldn't even breach any "geeky" or "nerdy" hobbies because even getting close to them just had the conversation dry up.
phonebang
hentai also more common than expected
phonebang
usually only in form of images or gifs tumblr and Reddit are most common sources
Anno
my 60 something year old italian lady coworker sent me an .avi of futanari hentai once because her boyfriend sent it to her and she thought it was "hilarious"
phonebang
Jesus
phonebang
hilarious indeed okay back to suffering please wish me well so many boxes.......
>Meet Gudetama, the anthropomorphic embodiment of severe depression. >Gudetama is a cartoon egg yolk that feels existence is almost unbearable. It shivers with sadness. It clings to a strip of bacon as a security blanket. Rather than engage in society, it jams its face into an eggshell and mutters the words, “Cold world. What can we do about it?
Kirara
apparently Puerto Rico is running out of food and their entire island has no power and won't for months but we aren't doing anything or trying to send aid
Anno
>out of food >out of power >out of water >no airport >allies send rescue aid
>it's some guys from kansas that are struggling to get the airport working
Anno
I have zero investment in the Kemono series but seeing stuff like this because of the recent hubbub has been great.
Anno
>>285211 Apparently some relief squads have had to crowdfund their relief missions just so they can get out there before the situation gets too terrible. I saw some people retweeting Lin-Manual Miranda advertising charities people could donate to in order to get relief squads flying out.
Kirara
it's terrible the government is literally ignoring an entire us colony and leaving them to die because that always worked for the British
sk
holy shit my dude
Anno
>>285215 Well as long as they don't try to jack up Puerto Rican taxes to pay for Texas and Florida relief, history wouldn't have repeated itself just yet.
Kirara
>>285217 haha as if they could pay anyway I'm talking more about the British colonies in Africa and their various near-genocides there, than the us declaring Independence, though
Yuu
Let them eat cake!
Anno
"that's so rika!" >laugh track
Kirara
>>285221 they don't have anything to make cake with
Anno
>>285219 Tangentially related have you read Heart of Darkness?
It's on the reading list for my class about literature across borders. I've only read the first couple pages of the actual novella so far but I really like the prose so far. It has a really nice feel to it. The edition we "needed" for the class also comes with a bazillion essays and analytical writings and relevant material to the novel.
Maria
>>285229 Me too I liked the bits with guns I was too dumb to get it
Yuu
We also watched Apocylapse Now after reading Heart of Darkness. It was probably a bit more interesting than the book because it is less British.
Anno
We also have to read Jane Eyre for that class too, and Shakespeare's The Tempest. I haven't read either of those yet either. There's also some movie we're going to watch in-class later on but I've forgotten it.
Maria
We read a great detective novel where people were horribly murdered
sk
according to twitter analytics, 6% of my audience is over the age of 65 That's like 18 people reading my tweets in their retirement
Kirarask
Also 73% male That old twitter crowd is still hanging on, huh
Yuu
The best part of Apocylapse Now wasn't the famous helicopter scene. It was actually Kurtz's monologue with the heavy-handed use of shadows. That part was very well done.
Anno
tbere was a game adaptation of heart of darkness that was actually very good unfortunately /v/ liked it so a lot of internet subculture hated it
Anno
the best part of apocalypse now is the whole movie because it's fucking great
Yuu
>>285246 hmm, was it that one soldier game based in saudi arabia?
KiraraAnno
>>285248 yeah you're probably thinking of the right one it is a looser adaptation of the novel but does it so well and blends it with genre specific gameplay twists that make it very memorable
Yuu
>>285251 I played that, my brother gave it to me. You play as like a soldier with his team and you go kill and kill until you're all ragged and crazy, right?
>>285247 It was a good movie , but full metal jacket is the better vietnam movie.
Kirara
that's spec ops the line and it takes place in dubai not saudi arabia
Anno
I haven't seen Apocalypse Now or played this game. The original novella will be my first introduction to the story, hah hah.
Anno
>>285252 yeah that's the one though imats is right you remember white phosphorus right? it was a good game
Yuu
it takes place in sandy muslim place, right?
>>285255 The white phosphorus part ruined my immersion a bit because I immediately recognized that those people were civilians but I had to shoot them anyway.
Kirara
>>285257 >I don't wanna look racist but all those countries are just sandy muslim places
AnnoYuu
>>285258 It's fine in this instance because it's just tasteless humor.
sk
Is apocalypse now the one with the mayans or whatever?
>>285265 So is the movie supposed to draw parallels between the atrocities the States committed in Vietnam with the atrocities Europe committed in the Scramble for Africa?
sk
>>285266 You didn't have a choice The alternative was not playing the rest of the game
sk
Which, by the way If your message relies on someone NOT consuming the rest of your art halfway through The message is garbage And you did a bad job
Kirara
>>285270 no, it's really just a movie about vietnam being really fucked up
Yuu
>>285270 The themes are a little different than that. Both works are about what happens to men when they are separated from civilization for too long. It's more about the primal state of man than it is atrocity.
Anno
I guess I'll come back to the train of thought after I finish the novella. Gotta keep fresh.
they had us read the book and watch the movie in middle school and my mom banned me from exposure to lord of the flies because she thought it would scare me
>>285272 I think this line of thought goes too far looking for the protagonist to be a self-insert. You aren't the protagonist, and the protagonist is supposed to shoot.
Anno
>>285281 When I was reading it for the first time I was like, in grade five, and the book was just not entertaining reading for me. That was also way too early an age to be interpreting the heavier themes and social dynamics the book leans on. I was simply reading it as a story and it wasn't entertaining. Now that I'm older I strongly disagree with the themes of the book, especially the concept of how quickly and competently humans (or men, really) will embrace violence and anarchy when left to their own devices.
Yuu
>>285276 I'm not wrong about the other thing either.
Anno
>>285280 it's not scary it's just about all societal systems breaking down until people go feral and schizophrenia claims one kid who hallucinates a pig head coverd in flies and maggots as god and eventually gets his skull caved in by his friends
Kirara
I've read it My mom is just crazy
>>285285 oh that rika you should probably frame it as an SES thing!
Maria
The scene where piggy dies from a Styrofoam rock is hilarious
Anno
i've never seen the movie and i don't really want to because my idea of how it happened based on the books is too good to me don't want to ruin it
Maria
Imagine being the adult who finds their fucked up little society Or cleaning up the huge mess
Anno
>>285284 it's probably because you're ralph and i'm jack
Yuu
>>285291 They'd probably kill any adult that tries to assume control. Especially if it was a woman.
>>285305 aren't i too old to do it now? most of those guys have been practicing for 7+ years by the time they're my age! they probably have more brain damage than me though that may be arguable
Kirara
>Fighters must be a minimum of *18 years old. ISCF Junior MMA is No Head Contact and Semi Contact To The Body. Fighters may not be over the age of *40 years old. However, if a fighter wishes to compete who is over the age of *40, please see below the additional requirements to be approved.
you've got time you can fight people until you're strong
>>285307 i thought you thought violent contact sport was no good
Kirara
>>285309 i don't like it but that doesn't mean people don't have the right to do it ill support my friends even if they are doing something i don't like
Anno
Yeah I don't figure I think warmly of the sport but I'd cheer you if you went for it and probably even turn on fights if you got them.
>>285311 even if i was just getting my ass kicked?
Anno
>>285310 you're probably right about such sports like that anyways though anyways what excited me was the knife in his hand anyways >>285318 i would of course try my best to almost kill them
Anno
I mean maybe not if it looked like you were just there to get your shit kicked in. But as long as it looked like you kept fighting my heart would be with you.
Kirara
learn to juggle knives
Anno
i can't juggle for shit not even balls much less knives
Anno
i wonder if there is an mma gym near me though
Anno
then again i'll never put forth the initiative to do anything on my own
Anno
Yeah, I kind of know how that goes. And a lack of initiative and drive is a pretty good turn-off for people that might want to do things with you. What a wonderful catch-22.
>>285350 Well I do that too! It's just, you know that lovely feeling on a cold day, when you clutch your cup between two hands and let it warm your cold digits? I just really dig that feeling on my cheeks too. My body always seems to get colder than I would like it to. Staying warm is a perpetual goal of mine.
Samu 🌉 !KW2DbpWwls
>>285349 there are girls with hints of the accent at work
>>285358 Wiggers, Chavs, Juggalos, Emos, "scene kids" Emos in denial >>285360 I'll bet Also frat boys, Various other arbitrary names we have for certain types of people
Maria
>>285359 I saw a lot of wiggers in Australia Straight outta Frankston Station
>>285363 We don't have many vets in general We have our own low socio economic areas though I can't think of many stereotypes for people out in our countrysides
>>285367 Everyone does that though Not just the people out in the sticks
So earlier today I had a splinter on my right middle finger and couldn't get it out with tweezers. I ended up removing it with a knife.
FormerRei@mobile
>>285364 Maybe you could import people from groups that have stereotypes associated with them from somewhere else.
Maria
>>285372 That's just borrowing someone elses national identity though >>285371 That's pretty metal Did you cut out any skin? >>285374 You're not offloading your rednecks onto us Our fire arm laws are actually fairly liberal Especially compared to Australia Probably less liberal than the U.S though
FormerRei@mobile
>>285373 Not all stereotypes are national identities though >>285373 Yes but I didn't bleed because I'm good at >>285373 Our rednecks won't move to NZ because you almost certainly have more restrictive gun laws
Kannagi
I just push and pull splinters out with my fingers
FormerRei@mobile
>>285375 I'm right handed so I was having trouble doing that.
FormerRei@mobile
>>285373 Australia's gun laws are silly Isn't it like, only bolt action rifles magazine capacity limit of five And then for handguns its illegal to keep a round in the chamber
Kannagi
Aussie gun laws came in due to a school shooting think I think
>>285381 Australia is not America I'm not implying America should do the same It's just that it worked for Australia yeah >>285382 Holy shit there's more than 30 people in Tasmania?
>>285385 I'll citation your face with my sleepy pins and needles fist
FormerRei@mobile
Also I've heard from a variety of soyrces that Australians are generally more racist than Americans. *sources >>285386 That's a good way to break a finger.
It's what I'm most looking forward to next season.
Kannagi
I am gonna go to a seaside town. Hopefully get some nice pictures
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
go do something clicheish like photographing the cliffs of dover.
Kannagi
like fuck am traveling that far
Kannagi
train train I love my stayshon.
rook
train train wanna be happy
Kannagi
what is happy?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
a rabbit
Kannagi
Wild Rabbits here generally have myxomatosis.
sk
I like writing stuff but I can't shake the feeling that I'm always wrong, or if I'm not wrong it's already been said better by someone else
Kannagi
Learning something from being wrong and corrected is better than being content with being wrong.
sk
The problem is you can't know you're wrong until you're called on it, and I don't like confrontation super much I like confronting people, but not mobs
Kannagi
>>285416 People who are super confrontational are just assholes, engaging in dialogue with them is mostly worthless
>>285419 You will not learn anything from them. I don't think you should let people bully you into never talking about something.
sk
Oh fug I have meeting
You're right though Maybe I shou\\ I definitely should finish writing this up and hit submit, link it on my twitter
I grew up on 4chan, I should be able to handle some flak lmao
Kannagi
Enjoy your meeting I just got on my 2nd train! >>285423 No Probs. the worst you can do is post something and refuse dialogue if you are wrong or right. Gotta learn through arguing a point.
sk
Thanks for the pep talk or whatever I kinda needed someone to tell me it's alright
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
whatcha writing anyhow?
Kannagi
New Communist Manifesto
Kirara
mani fresco
Kannagi
what are you all upto?
Koi-
morning >>285427 i'm up to wiping the dirt out of my eyes
>>285438 It always makes me feel giddy inside when Akagi does something crazy. like he just pretended to die but it turned out he had a blood transplant earlier >I am not rish Care for a gamble? High stakes Uno
>>285440 He took out 500css of his own blood I should spoiler this he took out 500css of his own blood two weeks before the match. Then on the day of the match he had it injected back in
>>285442 Monopoly with real houses and real tenants
>>285451 What does anyone really expect from a reactionary?
Maria
>>285450 >this hypocrisy in the same day At least wait a week
sk
Dude just give him like 3 years or something and he'll have a hard stance That's Ian's thing In 2013 he thought communism was at least a noble goal, now it's literally the worst idea humanity has ever had bar none even fascism
sk
>>285454 to be fair to him, he DID backtrack on that one on the right In that when he said bullying there he was using what he assumes other people mean when they say bully which is absolutely everything
Which still leaves the question of why he'd point out that it builds character to have things happen to you One sec I'll grab a link
Yeah but usually you call stabbing someone ASSAULT
sk
Murder is just a word for unlawful killing, man
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
and attempt of murder
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>285490 not really manslaughter is unlawful killing
sk
unlawful, intended killing*
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
more like it
sk
my notifs are on FIRE with people giving antman the RATIO of the week
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
unlawful wounding in a case of someone stabbing someone in the leg just seems like pure bullshittery aimed at making the case seem less severe it is fucking assault and attempt of murder
Maria
>>285486 When you're legally entitled to a pound of flesh
sk
>>285496 That's how things are when the system isn't grounded on a coherent foundation
>>285503 I see you failed to capitalise the first letter of that sentence. Consider your argument busted.
Kirara
also think i'm gonna change socrates' to socrate's
Kirara
inspired by this
sk
>staunchly pro-democracy >centrist
Kirara
>follower of socrates' teachings >sophist
sk
I'm an anarchist our defining characteristic is we don't do reading or philosophy!
No but actually I don't know what sophistry is
Kirara
sophists were super pretentious teachers in ancient greece that used really roundabout reasoning and were always like "this is how it is and i'm right" and weren't really open too dialogue they were anti-dialectics
socrates was very anti-sophist
sk
>>285510 Uh Can I get an example of like a basic sophist argument?
Kirara
i can't really think of any off the top of my head but their entire thing was about persuading the other person that they were right truth didn't really matter it was just about rhetoric and shit
Kannagi
how disappointing. everything is closed off due to the docks.
sk
>>285512 Oh So it was basicaly adhoc-ism Or something?
No wait that's the wrong one Arguing to fit your already existing notion reactionary
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Just shouting the opponent down essentially I mean greek especially athenian politics and such were a good amount of time just shouting the other down damn the facts or who was right
>>285515 The more things change, the more they stay the same, huh?
sk
Is "Black people in the US aren't oppressed, there's a black president" an example of sophistry?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Depends on argument really saying like "being black is detrement to your success in life" and then answering that with say >>285519 is equally bad argument
Kirara
added in master debater and orator and a picture of apollo
sk
>>285520 That first part isn't an argument so much as a statement though
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>285522 is not really true or false economical situation and such are bigger issues in most western countries than ethnicity of any kind.
Looks like a ferry to me, but then again the purpose can be whatever
Kannagi
I have no idea. The tannoy said cruises ship
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
yeah it is a cruise ship per purpose, but it looks like a ferry type, because of the car decks and clearly having both front and rear engines I'd wager it is a repurposed ship originally built as a ferry/passenger ship, later repurposed by some other company as a cruiser happens a lot
KOI, GREAT PRINCE OF AI PART OF AT LEAST 40 LOVE TRIANGLES AND HAS READ NISEKOI TO COMPLETION SEVEN TIMES
Koi-
I have come up with a 5* pipeline Going to upgrade Valter and Legion
Kirara
what's the pipeline
Koi-
Valter Legion Sheena or Cherche depending on which one I like at that time Zephiel Legion is going to 5 because I want his + Axe But I also want to see how much worth it's going to be. Legion is strong by himself without needing to transfer it
>>285560 Getting feathers is just daily work and being good at Arena Getting feathers faster is just being good And let's not talk about Summoning them...
Kirara
$$$$$$$$$
Koi-
I just said let's NOT talk about it.
sk
>>285532 Oh apparently this didn't happen The screenshot, I mean, at least the people on the twitter are saying that didn't take place
Koi-
>Atk Ploy on Sheena This looks fun
sk
>I support gay rights, but if gay marriage was legal, that'd be disrespecting the views of hardcore, christian homophobes -Bearing, the rational skeptic man
Kannagi
Holy shit. There is a Taco Bell here. I didn't think we had them in the Uk
Anyhow I have nothing against donation or patreoning them since that is volutnary based and can be argued to be for other things and not the scanlating and translator "hobbies" they hold however, if they actually lock the scans under a paywall well
FormerRei@mobileTN !PcAPtAiNJo
I wonder if that is even true? It has been 15 years for several years now afterall
FormerRei@mobile
>>285606 It's almost certainly not Also it's not even one of their translators. And she is allegedly "friends" with one of the 4chan mods so threads bitching about it on /a/ get removed and people get banned.
>>285607 People should just ignore these people and let them moan about lack of money for their hobbywork and similiarly ignore the idiots who put "funny jokes" into their releases who cares and the worst thing you can do is give them attention by bitching about it bury attentionwhores under the cloud of ignorance, I say
FormerRei@mobile
>>285609 The worst thing you can do is give them money.
>>285613 Is that sk speak for "I'm going to go rig the polls in favor of translators not being paid"?
sk
Naw I don't even use the website but seeing people expecting people to put time and energy into this shit and not get compensated with more than a "thanks" every now and then is ridiculous
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
"i put time and money into this illegal action and where is my pay" yeah >>285617 I am not breaking law doing it
sk
>>285616 >he gives a shit about the law Motherfucker you're reading it
>>285616 Legalism isn't something I'm even gonna fucking engage with
sk
>>285618 It's a hobby and so is every work of love To expect to benefit from someone else's work just because they enjoyed doing it without giving shit back is scumbag behavior
FormerRei@mobile
>>285620 Also there are more people who work on this stuff than just the translators But generally the translators are the only ones who demand money
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I do a lot of booze making and fishing why does no one pay me for it
sk
>>285622 Do you do this on a scale allowing you to supply others with any of that?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
So should every artist demand money for the art they post on twitter? Say to everyone who downloads their pics that "hey you didn't pay me for this"
sk
>>285624 What? The question isn't if there should be a paywall you fucking noldus
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Culture of paying is same as making a paywall >>285627 you create a culture where the non payers are heretics deviants shame them to pay once you go alogn that path, you eventually just create an outright paywall and not just a figurative
sk
No it's not
FormerRei@mobile
Anyways, SK if you really think that scanlation group translators should get paid It demonstrates how little you know about scanlation culture
sk
>>285621 Then compensate everyone? What's the fucking problem
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I am not saying scanlators don't have the right to ask for money, but for example >>285605 this kind of action is just shameless >>285631 A culture of compensation is different from culture of supporting people for their work aca what we have right now
sk
>>285630 You're saying you're explicitly against having a culture of compensating them for their hard work supplying you with shit
Koi-
>>285630 What? How are they different other than the assumption that it would be a paywall on various websites?
sk
I don't have the faintest idea what TN is saying at this point
sk
>>285628 No I just don't think your enjoyment is worth more than their time
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Compensation means pay for work pay wages it is in its bloody meaning
I kind of like having a depositable cheque if I can get it, if the alternative is a digital deposit.
FormerRei@mobile
>>285651 I'd have to go downtown to find a Bitcoin atm.
Samu 🌉 !KW2DbpWwls
oh i have a dumb story about checks or rather my attempt to securely transmit money to former roommate i wrote a somewhat large check to settle our debts and, having moved out, decided to be fancy and sent it by certified mail it did not register with me that the options i picked would force him to be at the door to sign the delivery form so he missed the delivery of course being a full time worker and new dad and apparently the check entered this weird limbo because his local post office is completely impossible to actually walk-in you have to make a reservation for this post office months ahead >california so two months later the letter gets returned to sender in canada if i hadn't been all fancy and shit he could have gotten the money ages ago
moon
i would like to cache this travelleur's cheque
FormerRei@mobile
Ooh https://www.humblebundle.com/books/hacking-reloaded-books Comes with PoC||GTFO
>>285658 Proof of Concept or GTFO, its a collection of amusing hacking articles
FormerRei@mobile
Full name is International Journal of Proof-of-Concept or Get The Fuck Out
FormerRei@mobile
Heh
FormerRei@mobile
These are both from Issue 0x00.
FormerRei@mobile
>>285654 Sam, what kind of stuff do you do at coinbase? I'm just going to imagine they have you writing optimized bitcoin miners for different idevices until I hear otherwise.
Samu 🌉 !KW2DbpWwls
>>2856632 >>285663 i hack things up and i put them down
Kirara
>>285654 couldn't you have cancelled the check while it was in limbo and just sent the money normally?
Samu 🌉 !KW2DbpWwls
>>285665 i didn't realize it was in limbo i thought it would be guaranteed to arrive
Samu 🌉 !KW2DbpWwls
we weren't coordinating or anything he was just like "no rush cya around"
sk
There's a chance THE Ron Jeremy might get on Chapo
FormerRei@mobile
>>285668 Did you know that he's Jewish? And also both his parents were in the OSS.
I should get 5* black knight in a few hours when my phone is charged back up. Then I'm probably going to put together a Black Knight, Zeph, Amelia, and Effie team.
I might have to 5* something to give Effie a brave weapon though. actually now that i think about it, i didn't check my effie's IVs hmm
ToN
>>285677 sou I should do this so my lady marth stops sucking
Koi-
Sheena's Res is 33 naturally. I'm going to turn her into an actual tank. I have an extra zephiel so I can throw Wary Fighter on her and just let anyone who attacks her become a cripple in their next life
Koi-
I should also focus on doing Tempest Trials. >>285682 not terrible Your Nephenee is +DEF too, I'm guessing
Kirara
hmm -HP/+DEF on this effie
effie actually has fewer DEF than my Neph wtf
ToN
Kirara did you see my announcement thing for game?
oops >>285684 my campaign might end before yours, though cthulu has had a lot of delays
Kirara
i put a lot of work into oscar to make him usable in tempest but i'm definitely going to kill him off once the trials are over because he's pretty bad
Anno
heh somebody on my school's wifi got banned for making a racist thread on /pol/
Kirara
>>285687 yeah your game is also voice which makes it faster too
ToN
>>285690 yeah I was going to say that but I felt mine also has less content
Nephenee is strong
sk
oh yeah imats I'm writing a thing (again) and I think I'll actually finish this one, but it might take a bit of time You think you can go over it when I'm done? It might end up long, and jumbled, but still
>>285691 Well I think mine is a little deeper because in the end it's technically a game about investigation so there's gotta be big mysteries and stuff
sk
It's about JUSTICE
Koi-
Nephenee is so pretty. She's like an entire rainbow of brilliance. Why won't they give her to me
>>285694 I like justice >>285695 yeah she is she's incredibly good too
Koi-
I knew they'd make her good. It's not possible to make her bad.
Kirara
i'm hoping to get two Brave Ikes in the future one for steady breath on neph and the other for steady breath on black knight
i have fury on neph right now although i changed it to atk/spd +2 for the trials
neph will probably be my go-to lancer in the future
i tried to turn oscar into a defensive roderick but it didn't really go too well he's -atk/+res too he's good for moving enemies around with drag back and his spur spd/def is good i'm kind of using him as a support lancer i think i put armored blow on him without thinking because i'm stupid and didn't realize how ridiculous that is considering he has firesweep lance
moon
tfw drag back with galeforce and a dancer
Koi-
>Firesweep They made a defensive character run that? Why
Kirara
no that's what i did it was the only possible way i could make oscar usable
moon
you could have given him first bite
Kirara
i would have if i had one to
moon
ill do it if i get an oscar
Anno
can you guys stop playing video games
Kirara
no i can't >>285705 yeah i think oscar could be a good support unit decent survivability and comes with two really good support skills built in
moon
it also would look fab
Kirara
his natural set isn't that bad, sapphire lance and lancebreaker gives him good advantage vs swords and lances but my Clive is already build for that built*
moon
billed
Anno
all of my instructors are libcucks
Kirara
been trying to figure out a way to make my mathilda good too i really like her but i need distant counter to make her viable and valuable over using my other blue lancers
>>285730 well you won't know if it's good until you're done once you're done and we do some editing and stuff you can decide whether or not to publish then
sk
But I don't know if I'm even making sense I don't know if I have any idea what I'm doing cause I'm fucking BLANKING on basic concepts and ideas and shit
no is the whole idea i can't just write pages based on something if im wrong
moon
it's a first draft man don't fret it that's normal do you know how many times i have to revise any of the shit i write just to make it not insane sounding
Kirara
>>285733 well if you finish it and it doesn't make sense, we can talk through it and help you flesh out your ideas and organize them better so they do make sense
sk
that makes some sense I guess
Koi-
>>285733 >>285730 There's no way around it. You have to write, read, and write more to get better at writing.
moon
kirara can help you organize and formulate the structure of your arguments i'm a professional document prep so i can help with proper editing >>285739 it's hard to take abstract ideas and parse concrete elements out of it it's hard for everyone writers spend a lot of time writing. don't give up just because it's not inherently straightforward and simple if it was then it probably wouldn't be worth writing, ya know
sk
i panic too easily i dont have any idea how to share my ideas and thoughts with people I don't know
sk
my psych says i gotta try to figure out what exactly the thoughts in my head are when I freak out but i can't even say the tsuff I already know cause I don't trust her or anyone else that I don't know
Kirara
i think she's right
but it's normal to not be comfortable sharing things with a new psychologist it takes a long time for a therapeutic relationship to build up sometimes you should focus on what you feel comfortable saying, like, the surface level thoughts, first
sk
she wwent through some question sheet, like pages and pages and I dunno how much i was honest on
i dont think therapy can help me at all, i'm just not able to fucking do it cause im a fuckup
Kirara
therapy is really helpful for a lot of people it's good that you're making an effort and thinking about that stuff too i think it might feel like it won't be helpful now but if you give it some time, you'll be able to find at least a little value in it
sk
she thinks my job is partially to blame and I don't disagree but I don't have any other real option I can't quit, not even for the money, I can't stop going to work cause my dad will lose his fucking shit and also the money that's a big part ngl
i dont like therapy
Kirara
what about therapy don't you like?
sk
I dont like having to be honest with someone I dont know its unpredictable i dunno
i dont like needing help either i dont like having a problem idunno i get nervous
I've been there 5 times and I don't think I've let go of the back of my neck once any of those times
Kirara
What do you think would happen if you're honest with her?
sk
i dont know she'll look down on me ill get told the solution is easy and i should just socialize i don't know i dont have any idea
i hate what i am too much
Kirara
Are you afraid of being looked down on or told that the solution is easy?
sk
both either i don't know i don't understand why im scared i don't get why i get so nervous cause i understand its not rational
Kirara
What do you think she'd do if you told her about that fear, but didn't go into what you think would make her act like that?
sk
dunno im not able to see positives
moon
>>285750 did you ever ask about anxiety meds not all anxiety is functional or rational and sifting through it sometimes hurts more than helps
Kirara
>>285752 What negatives do you think might come from telling her that you're afraid of being looked down on?
sk
no, i dont think she can prescribe shit anyway
sk
shed just tell me the whole things meaningless then and theres no point in continuing i dont know why i keep going i dont think i can get better
im stupid for tryng
moon
literally just stumbled on this in my market research transcript just now "Can you tell me what was going through your mind, emotionally and physically, as you had this experience?" tf
Kirara
>>285756 So you think she'd tell you to terminate the therapy if you said you were afraid of her looking down on you?
sk
if i cant tell her anything its meaningless so
i dont handle being abnormal well
Kirara
I'm not a therapist yet, but if I were in her place, I'd see that kind of admission as a place to work on. Instead of addressing the underlying stuff, it'd be like trying to help you be more comfortable with just being able to open up a little.
Kind of like clearing away a road so you can bring supplies somewhere. You have to make sure you can travel the road before you can try to get to your destination.
sk
i shouldnt even be trying its all lies im fucked up but im just bad at handling it its not real i dont know how to i dont wanna deal with it i want it to just stop bneing thhere
sk
i dont know what my ufkng deal is i cant do a fucking thing proply i always fuck up cause im shit i lie as a fucking defense mechanism no matter what i cant even tell if my own goddamn emotions are real or fake theyre real but i made tem up i chose this but i have no fucking choice and i dunno what i even MEAN I DONT KNWO
Kirara
A big part of therapy is figuring out what your deal is. If you don't know whether your emotions are real or fake, that's something you can figure out in therapy.
sk
i hat myself so much i dont wnna anymre i cant be happy anyway i cant even feel anything but fucking hate and anger and disgust
im just a clump of everything wrong and i stopped being the good parts
sk
and i keep doing this it always f happens
Kirara
You're on Ritalin, right?
sk
not today woke up late
Kirara
I thought so. It seems like you have a lot more control over your anxiety when you're on it.
sk
probably i do
i think i just want to be miserable i keep doing this i always push people away from me and i just get worse and worse and i never stop and i dont think it can stop
Kirara
Keep doing what? Not taking your medicine?
sk
this whihning doing nothing and just bitching instead as though theres any fucking use to this
but its all i ever fucking do and its gonna wear out and ill be alone again
Kirara
But you don't do that when you're on your Ritalin, right?
sk
usually not
Kirara
Maybe it would help you if you took it every day.
It might also help if you got an SSRI like moon suggested. Or even a beta-blocker could help. Medication can help you maintain control over yourself.
sk
id need a different psych for that again
Kirara
Who prescribes your Ritalin?
moon
>>285774 i meant benzos, not SSRI i personally have never tolerated SSRIs so, just out of ignorance, i can't suggest them
sk
my gp
Kirara
>>285778 They should be able to prescribe an SSRI or a beta-blocker for you.
>>285777 Oh, I see. SSRIs are usually what you start off with for anxiety although I personally feel that a beta blocker like shit what's it called Oh, propranolol. Propranolol is supposed to be really good with this stuff.
sk
he's only able to give me ritalin cause a shrink already did
moon
>>285779 for chronic, persistent anxiety maybe ssri is kind of overkill for preventing panic attacks and onset anxiety like i have though i think that's why i was scribed lorazepam for its quick onset and short half life so that i can be back to normal quick ssri would be a hefty life change for something that only occurs acutely
Samu 🌈💕 !KW2DbpWwls
CBD seems to cut right through anxiety for me
sk
yeah dude im sure i can get fucking pot in norway
sk
like prescribed
I can and do get pot
Kirara
>>285781 Oh, sure, yeah. For panic disorders and stuff, you usually start with benzos although you rarely keep them going (these days) These days the standard for panic disorders is benzos for a month and then you taper off while going through psychotherapy and stuff
>>285780 Oh, really? In America, most psychiatric drugs are prescribed by GPs.
Can a GP prescribe a beta-blocker in Norway?
moon
>>285785 i'll probably be on benzos forever or until my doctor retires and whoever she refers me to doesn't want to do that i like them because they're extremely functional for me it doesn't block everything out and debilitate me the anxiety, when bad, does that by making me shy away from things and want to shut down, and i become catatonic for hours with the benzos it just lubricates my brain so that there's not so much friction when addressing these things that cause me anxiety and i'm able to navigate through difficult situations and familiarize myself with the processes that i was averse to and were causing me to panic
sk
i dunno if they can i dont think so i dont know
Kirara
Oh, hmm. Beta-blockers are just cardiac medications, not explicitly psychiatric medications.
Are you unable to have a psychologist and a psychiatrist at the same time?
sk
i can probably have both at the same time i dont know i dont know any of this
Kirara
How often do you see your psychologist and GP?
>>285786 Man, the local community mental health care center no longer prescribes any benzos whatsoever no matter what.
sk
i have an appointment with my gp in like 3 days or something psych th 5th gp i only see like once every 3 months? psych's been about every 2 weeks
moon
>>285790 that's terrible. i think they're a wonderful tool if used responsibly it would be bad if i just took them to not feel anything and zonked out for hours then woke up anxious and did it over again but they're actually helping me long-term with anxiety because they let me become familiar with all the dark little rabbit warrens of my consciousness that i usually avoid
Kirara
>>285791 It might be worth mentioning to either of them that you have some anxiety and see if they have any suggestions for medication.
Kirara
>>285792 Yeah. Benzos are good medications even if they can be addicting.
Even if they have someone detoxing from short half-life benzos or someone detoxing from opioids, they won't give any benzos whatsoever.
sk
maybe
i dont know how to handle being alive
moon
>>285794 but i bet clinically, if they looked at my usage patterns and saw that i take them while working and all sorts of things it'd be viewed as compulsive consumption during inappropriate times because it's just not how other people use them usually they just hang their hats up, take a benzo, and unwind i'm extremely functional on them you know, last week i had a 72 hour work week and i did 40 hours of it in two days with just two three hour naps i didnt even take adderall or caffeine because the anxiety would make it harder to focus just a morning benzo and a second-wind benzo and i did 20 hours back to back
Kirara
>>285795 I think it's a good time to learn how to handle it.
Kirara
>>285796 yeah, unfortunately mental health has become so obsessed with pretending to be physical medicine that it's forgotten that everyone is different and overgeneralizes it's really sad
sk
i chilled out a little i dont know why im like this man
Kirara
I think we've all got our own issues. I'm proud of you for working on yours.
sk
what the hell I can't find the grapekun post I got the most attention ever for