Thread #20394

eoo
woo too

Woo woo
Do we skip ahead to the debate, or watch the 7 minutes of pregame?

if it's only 7 minutes i don't mind watching it
will make it easier to sync

Alrighty, do a countdown

3
2
1
go!

Oh yeah this is /pol/ guy narrating
He shuts up in the debate

reddit reeee

The screen is frozen but it keeps ticking the seconds so

the clock's tickin i just count the hours

brrrong

Millennial Torture: The Youtube Video

>>20407
>>20407
>>20407

Oh shit Robe-
...is his name Robert REICH?

reich is a pretty common name my man

That's an unfortunate\fortunate last name if you're a republican

jake tapper looks weird here
maybe he used to have a beard

Movies use "real" news footage so much now, seeing this middle guy makes me feel like this isn't real

haha that's jake tapper
he's a big CNN guy

generally a pretty cool guy too
pretty reasonable and fair

Is the video like, laggy for you?

yeah it is

OK good

Feels like dropping mad frames

audio is fine though

I think he fixed it when the debate started though

Calling it Obamacare was such a fucking great political move, I swear to god
I'm still in awe of how well that worked out for them

I'm not even MAD
I'm geniunely impressed with with that, if it was planned to have the effect it did

yeah america got fuckin rused HARD

obama embraced it too
didn't know he was playin in

>>20424
Yeah it was SO GOOD
Played right into his ego and he WENT WITH IT

bernie is so cute when he tries to not look excited

Bernie is pretty cool overall
He looks exactly like the guy who just wants to politics and isn't interested in the bullshit

i want to spend a day with bernie
just politics and chill

>>20429
He'd talk about DE ONE PACENT for 24 hours straight

i'd be down for that

is sanders talking now

Yeah we're watching the thing

in the video yeah

Hahah that's LEGAL?

unfortunately

Europe looking on like

the shape of ted's head
the look on his face
it's so weird

It's morrowind shit

haha it really is

healthcare is life or death
mind blown

but you don't need it!

I didn't even realize Bernie was independent until recently

yeah he is the longest independent senator in history

i want to run bernie's forehead

rub*

luv*

his head his so red
i wonder if his blood pressure is high or something

oh shit agreement

flipped it right around

look at bernie's face when ted says big pharma

Smug as fuck

he got so excited

:oooo

bernie is such a cute old man

hi how are you

maybe it's that there's no aggression at all in his movements, idk what it is

Here come Ted with his awkward attempts at socializing with humans on Earth

ted is really good at feeling earnest due to that awkwardness
i think he really does care
ted seems like a good guy

wiiiide stance

i think he explained what insurance is but didn't answer her question?

ted keeps retreating from the specific question to some general blather about common sense

yeah

"But what if you didn't already have health insurance?
"
Then fuck you I guess, this is America

if you get sick, don't get sick
if you do get sick, die quickly

it is true that obamacare has very high premiums in some places

i should get some bernie sanders glasses

can anyone tell what his lapel pin is?

I can't tell at all
Ted's is the flag
Bernie's looked a bit like a bird for a second

yeah it kind of does now that you mention it

>what should my family be forced to pay all this money if we don't use it?

>we get a lot better healthcare
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/05/03/researchers-medical-errors-now-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-united-states/
Friendly reminder that you literally do not

well there's a waiting list because people need that stuff
there's no waiting list in the US because people can't get that stuff when they need it

Damn socialists have waiting lists
Here we just ditch that and throw you out on the street instead

Like what, does he think there are less people per capita in THE US than Norway who need cancer treatment?
Are you real with us right now, Cruz?

If either of these two countries has more need per capita for cancer treatment than the other, it ain't us, dude

i pay $80 monthly for my ADHD medication and i have some of the best health insurance you can get here without being a federal employee

>$80 monthly
Jesus christ that's 2 and a half months of adhd medication, and I would be at my yearly max for how much I need to pay, and the rest of the year it's free

without insurance, it's $230 for my medication per month

>without insurance, you wouldn't even need to cover a full month here
It's like $30 or something for a month's worth here
The shit I got anyway

I don't think it's because it's BETTER that people go to the US
It's mostly because you can skip the waiting list by using your money in the US to go ahead of the other guy who has less money

>conservative is relative
yeah i don't know ted
conservative means something different in the rest of the world

Canadians are coming into the US and stealing healthcare
build the wall

whenever there's a change in my insurance, even a tiny change, my insurance company temporarily suspends my prescription assistance
and i have to pay $230 for my medication and they say they might reimburse me while it's sorted out
and then they refuse to reimburse me

Ted has a spooky view of Europe
Either that or everyone but Scandinavia is a fucking dystopia

let's talk facts because facts matter
now here are some cherry picked anecdotes

>>20495
>>20495
>>20495

So what do you prefer, America?
The greatest healthcare in the world (also your 3rd leading cause of death), but most of you can't access it.
Or horrible Europe-style where you can access it, but it's a bit worse (and not the 3rd leading cause of death)

i think like more than half of the american moes don't have health insurance

Yesterday, my mother told me a story about the hospital that she is working at
There was this 11 year old girl, two years ago, she nearly drowned and as a result, her brain started swelling
it continued to swell for two years and her brain started degenerating due to reduced blood flow
her hypothalamus was not working and she could not regulate her own body heat

she had behavioral problems due to the brain swelling and threatened to hang herself with her blanket
so doctors took away her blanket and left her without it overnight
Her body temperature dropped to 30c
When they found her in the morning, her body temperature was that low
so they brought her to the hospital to warm her up and she went into cardiac arrest a day later and was declared braindead
and they took her off of life support and she died

this person had health insurance

bernie's fired up

>>20497
I'm not even joking here either
Cause this seems to be the actual question

If you make it public, everyone has access so the quality goes down a little and each person has a chance of ending on a waiting list
If you make it private, like half the nation drops off the grid, but the quality goes up because it has more time for each person, and there's no waiting list because the people who otherwise would be there simply aren't getting any help if they snap their back or get cancer in the dick

>>20499
...they didn't think heating up the room she was in was a better idea?
Like for real
"oh yeah just take her blanket and leave her naked in this below-human-temp room"

they probably didn't think about it
to get the job that those people had, the mental health techs, (they weren't actually doctors, technically), it takes like 32 hours of training and no degree

I think it would have been a national event if something like that happened here
Niggas would be getting fired left and right

it shouldn't be happening but it does
that's american health care
the "best health care in the world"
people fall through the cracks all the time

>grr i'm mad that i can't let my employees die because they have no health insurance

>how do I do that without doing either of the things businesses regularly do when costs come up?
Really Laura?

Lauranda

>not allowed to manufacture money
Ted, hey Ted
Ted that's a good thing

they should have done a reality TV thing and brought all 50 hairdressers onto the stage

...
Health insurance costs more than half of what he pays his employees?

No seriously
You have 49 people, you pay them x
If you get 50, you have to pay an additional y for each one following
If not for the second rule, you could afford having between 69 and 79 employees

What's the relationship between x and y?

"i can't answer that question because they would die"

ZODIAC

spyrocketed

>>20513
OH SHIT

lauranda

ted doing his best supervillain walk-around-the-corner-and-laugh

Ted looks like the backup model in a Dressman commercial

i like bernie's suit
it's kind of wrinkled and you can see he didn't iron his shirt under it

IS HE GONNA SHOW US TWEETS?

WELL - ted is right

yuge

shuuah

The "hard T at the end" jewish thing doesn't seem very consistent

yeah the inconsistency is a jewish thing too tbh
but in general the hard t is pretty jewy

FUCKING JEWSW

i do agree that we should be able to buy health insurance from different states

but a single payer system like bernie wants is more reasonable

>>20527
Yeah holy shit what is WITH that?

It's just money changing hands, it's not even a PRODUCT
Nothing crosses state lines

let's talk about what rights are

LOOKTED

YA GUNS

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are all like
Terms and conditions apply

You have the death penalty
You have prisons
And I mean if your idea of happiness is a genocide, you're not gonna just be allowed to

healthcare is not a right
the possibility of healthcare is a right

i wish bernie was our president

He'd have been the best choice
But eh, turns out he's really bad at coinflips or something
He lost 8 in a row like a sucker

it must hurt bernie on a molecular level to know that big corporations are showing commercials right now

Some might even be big pharma

Because advertising medicines is a thing in the US, somehow
Ask your doctor if the thing is best for you
Insist on it if you have to because he's not there for medical advice, he's there as a glorified cashier at a pharmacy

and then you get ads like "we have a class action lawsuit against this phrama company because their medication killed people if you died as a result of this medicine please call whatever"

i do like this debate
i hope stuff like this becomes more common

>contrats on struggling with MS!

Twice as likely to DIE FROM MEDICAL TREATMENT

Why is this not a MASSIVE RED FLAG Ted?

ok ted but can she keep her health care?
she even gave you a tl;dr on the question

her face

But Bernie, if they don't have health insurance, then they won't have to sit on waiting lists!
That's an upgrade, I think

a uuman right

yuuuuuman

>bernie wants you to think it's this other thing, but it's actually Medicaid for all
>Bernie literally said earlier "Wouldn't you prefer medicaid for all, as I am suggesting?"

ok but you're looking at one of the countries bernie doesn't cite when he talks about health care
he talks about the health care of scandanavian countries

To be fair everything we do is fucking ace

that's true, people often have trouble finding doctors
especially anything specialty

called out

answer the question ted

I guess he can't promise she, specifically, will stay covered, just that more people will have coverage, or so he thinks
>>20555
No audio for it at all, likely just some sound that means "I disagree"

what did she say?

it looked like she said "never had a job" but that can't be what she said

since she said she had a job

yeah ted if you can't sue doctors for malpractice, more people will become (bad) doctors

robo doctors

>>20558
Great system

never heard of romneycare

"RRROMNEY"cayah

population doesn't matter ted, we're talking about per capita

"That's a much better solution. Some jobs, people who have them shouldn't have health care so they get a better job so they can have health care"
"Yes I know we're effectively creating a second class of citizens this way, but hey, it's free market!"

there's a guy in the front row with a cowboy hat on
if they show her from behind again, he's on the right of her

Here we go with the awkward shit again

destroy all jobs

>Samson and Delilah are Biblical figures.
oh

ted can't do anything without his notes
bernie knows all of this by heart

It's hard to argue against single payer because the alternative is a lot of people just not having healthcare
It ends up costing about the same anyway

? ? ?
young people can't get insurance without their parents or obamacare

because the jobs they have access to don't have benefits

>>20572
And since, as Cruz established earlier, healthcare costs about or more than half of someone's monthly wages...
They sure ain't getting it without a job paying more than minimum wage

everyone is like assuming sanders just outright supports obamacare as is for some reason

I think that's the position he had to defend for the debate

i think he just had to be anti-repeal

i want to go 200mph but i don't want leather seats

>never driven a lambo
What the fuck do you have all that money for then, Cruz?
What the fuck are you DOING MOTHERFUCKER

>>20578
>>>/@tedcruz/498211667818586112

There's like a 0% chance Cruz is actually a regular human being
That man is not neurotypical

he's the zodiac

Killing the elderly

he should have been like "call me the zodiac killer because i guess i'm killing the elderly now"

Starting with Bernie!

>>20583
Holy shit that would be so smooth

harnessing the memes

He could probably make it to presidency 2020 if he had done that
He'd be the guy who saw the meme, recognized the meme, and WENT WITH THE MEME

the government's corrupt
the government's corrupt

i want reduced taxes
my taxes were insanely high this year

>>20589
They're probably gonna go up

i made $14800 and paid $2000 in taxes in 2016

$88 tax return

i couldn't claim by $18,000 tuition costs or living expenses because i am forced to report myself as a dependent or i will lose my health insurance

Jesus your government is just all papers isn't it?
So much shit

very frustrating
i worked at a nonprofit too
you'd think i would get a tax break for that at least
nope

for tuition costs, the reason is
"your parents can pay for your school so you can't claim it"

So if you're dependent, neither you or your parents can claim it?
And it's just woosh, gone into the ether despite being a supposedly tax-dedictable thing?

my parents can claim it technically
but this year we didn't do that because the tax rules for that were different last year and my mom filed her taxes before me

and if she claims my school stuff on her taxes, she gets the tax return, not me, even though the person paying the tuition is me

Jesus you guys have to keep track of a lot of stuff
We don't even... you know
"do" our taxes

i'm pretty frustrated over taxes

I feel like Americans would worry less about taxes if you guys just adopted a system for paying a bit more like ours

holy shit this baby

damn look at this guy's armpit sweat

also cowboy hat

This guy looks like a philosopher from the 1800s

I can't tell if he is 25 or 55

Ted Cruz is for importing medicine?
Starting to seem like he was a way better option than The D

ted cruz is anti-big pharma
he and bernie align a little bit on it

if dodd-frank benefits the big banks, why is trump trying to kill it so his friends can borrow more money?

I guess it helps them in a way, but also makes it harder to lend money to scumbags
I dunno what dodd frank is

I think your thing with naming every bill after two people is fucking stupid, by the way
No wonder your system is fucked when nobody knows what anything being talked about actually is
"OBAMACARE IS BAD. REMOVE IT AND LEAVE THE ACA ALONE!"
Like if you didn't have all these names, this wouldn't be a problem

This is a debate with really good conduct. Everyone is staying with their time and being very cordial.
A nice change from the election.

dodd-frank helps the company as a whole from killing itself, but its employees hate it as individual agents

that's my bullshit theory

that sounds like bullshit but i'll believe it!

>>20609
Yeah it's pretty great
This is the kind of thing I wish I had the means to do

SANDERS WINNIN

stop rippin off the american people 2020

zillions

i would love to see ted and bernie work together to improve pharma in the us

Trump would have brought up Stalin by now, and Hillary would have said something about women's rights by now

well we're all poor though, ted

The per capita income is high sure, but it's like putting 4 mensa people in a special ed class and saying the average IQ is really high
Like yeah, technically but please
Billy over there eating the glue isn't above 100

you can't go from dishwahser to CEO anymore ted

averages should come with variances

agreed
you should have to report mean, median, mode, standard deviation
i have trouble trusting it otherwise

And sample size

millionaihs and billionaihs

really they should be able to say like "it's bimodal at 30k and 300k" and a little squiggle graph pops up

that'd be really nice
but i think the worry is that the american audience doesn't know enough statistics to understand more than "average"
which i don't think is true but

>>20627
Completely valid concern, let's be honest here

let's throw some randomly generated strawmen out there
what if bernie said this??

oh fuck that camera

HIGH TENSION

cruz has all these pages and pages of notes
bernie has like, a piece of paper that he printed out before the debate

it's actually a MapQuest printout

How is mapquest still real

my parents still say mapquest
i guess it's a really good name

My mom still says mapquest too haha

What IS MAPQUEST

their pinned tweet is
"We still exist #FridayFunfact"

>>>/@MapQuest/769267196769947653

Looks like they're working on algorithms to save people gas and stuff
And they are working on spatial intelligence programs

>>20639
morale must be high at their office

>>>/@MapQuest/823669075402493952
they're hiring

wow looks like they're hiring an entire team

>>>/@MapQuest/821772680898678785

they've got a pretty edgy social media manager

"We spend more money than everyone else on healthcare"
-Bernie
"But everything would cost people even more if we did like everyone else"
-Ted

>>>/@MapQuest/819217809955815424

dammit twitter don't resize my page asynchronously
i'm going to have to hack around tweets to fix the scroll lock
>>20647
lookin pretty startup
for a 20 year old web service

5 raised hands

AN EDIFICE OF LIES

more cowbell
really ted

COWBELL MEME
OH MY GOD

what year is it

>>20653

>>20654
pls

the email subject line is "a deal you can ROAR over"

OK well that was fun

>>20648
>>>/@VodeLight/817428775084425216

>>20656
wow
>>20657
Yeah, that was a pretty good debate
Ted beats around the bush a lot but everyone was pretty chill and polite

I'm gonna make a series of chillstep songs and name the album Ted Beats

>>20658
such startup
i used to enjoy this kind of aesthetic back at the first startup i worked for in sf
now it reminds me of shitty middle managers
and awkward "events"

>>20661
>>>/@MQDeveloper/800771629437636608
it's kind of weird how start up-y they feel

>>20660
what is chillstep

>>20663
might as well
old thread is like a zillion posts

I guess this is just the thread now, then

>>20662
melodic dubstep
not very wub wubby
no massive bass drops, more focused on a smooth melody

>>20662
i guess everyone's doing it now
everyone has to do open plan offices so they compensate with googliness

>>>/@MapQuest/797122334838624256

actually wait no i'm gonna go ahead and blame facebook for open plan

googlebook did open plan offices

>>20664
is it dubstep without much wub wubby?

I miss berkeley bowl
the mushroom game was tight

>>20668
>>>/watch?v=lj-Or8u5u7w
it's been growing on me lately

>>>/watch?v=nLw-zd87wVk#t=8m18s
me irl

This guy's gonna get fucking impeached
Even the republicans will eventually go "You know what, fuck this"

>>20670
notto bad

sessions got sworn in and trump just signed three "crime reduction" EOs
not sure of their contents, media does not seem to have any idea what they could be

Penn Jillette has a podcast
It's pretty good

i'm scurred

>>20677
i'm glad that you had it on-hand, ready to go at any time

>>20679
wat
>consensus on boards
>4chan and collectivism

>>20680
i just remembered i called these yui haha
>>20679
le hivemind

It's some guy
I don't even know where I am on twitter right now, I feel like I'm doing one of those sidequests that huge modpacks add to games
The ones without voices and also they don't completely fit in

>>20679
I see a conclusion and I see a premise, but neither does the conclusion soundly follow the premise, nor is the premise verifiable

Even shaun king thinks The Donald is playing 4D chess

tbf republicans have been doing this for decades now

Obamacare is an instance of 4D chess I'll never forget

i wonder if there could be a better system of naming things
people who write bills should definitely not be naming those bills
someone else should read the thing and give it a name

>>>/@TheInspiroBot/825417526498701312

>>20688
You could just use the names of the bills
SO THEY'RE EASY TO RESEARCH

>>20688
Whoever was the first one to cast their NO vote gets to name it

it'd have to be a different branch
exec, judiciary, legislative, and taxonomic

some independent group of wizards will assign its True Name
first the bill author must strip down and wade into the icy waters of Crater Lake
if they make the journey to the other side they are greeted with a firm hand clasp and a whisper

What about just naming them all like stands
Obama care would be [Witch Doctor]

Which doctor is going to treat us?

PATRIOT act's stand name is [1984]

I think whoever is the most against a bill should be the one to name it though
All bills should be known by the worst part of them

"The Shitty Bill Of Killing American Children And High Treason #89" would be the template

Obviously they'd still need to name it something the public is OK with
If you keep naming shit dumb stuff, then people will vote you out because every time you get a chance, a MEME comes out instead of a bill

how about an impartial branch like moon suggested where they go the bill of "Increased Taxpayer Deductibles And Also The 0.07% Can Import Manservants From Tanzania"

it'd use a formula similar to how drug companies name their drugs

the for and against parties come up with varying names and americans get polls sent to their phones and have to vote on them!
what could go wrong?

ah whatever the media will just go with whatever gets coined and sounds good

>>20703
Every bill has an anonymous, online poll for the name
Complete anarchy
Whichever is the funniest wins

And they have to use that name when voting on it in the senate

>connaway advertised for Ivanka's company
Holy shit this entire administration is so off the rails

Conway*

i'm really getting sick of not having a vehicle
i would love to shoot up to the gas station and get an energy drink and a slice of pizza or something
but it'd take forever to walk and i'm working
i'm thinking about getting a motorycycle

kyaa don't shoot

i can get up to whole foods in about a two minute walk, and they have some really cool counter things where people make fresh ramen and udon and really neat pizzas and stuff like that
but i'm terrified of going up there because it's intimidating
i don't know if i pay there or if i take it up to the front register

what's the worst that could happen

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/09/its-not-impossible-that-trump-orchestrated-the-whole-gorsuch-leak-episode/
FOUR
DIMENSIONAL
C H E S S

>>20712
ive told myself that before and it turned out really bad
i was just at a panera trying to order a bagel with plain cheese and a milk. super easy
no it was fucking horrible

panera has like two cash register sections, and two different lines
they were both open, one was empty, but the closer one had one person in front of me and i was looking at the menu anyway so i stood there
person in front of me finished up and left, i stepped up, and she closed the register and moved over to the other register, like 20 feet away
and like a group of four came in, and i didn't know she closed it i thought she was doing i dont fucking know
and after like four people came in, and x more, and like a minute passes, she's like "hey come over to this one" and i'm like "ok i will"
and i was still looking at the menu but everyone kept telling me to go up to the front
and i'm like no that's okay
and they're like just go up front
i guess one line is for bakery goods or something and that i was in the wrong one
and i still wanted to be looking at their menu and everybody was getting angry at me and i told them to fucking quit it because i'm trying to look at the menu
and then they acted like i was making a scene and i'm like GOD DAMN CAN I JUST SEE WHAT THIS PLACE SELLS I AM NOT READY TO ORDER MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS -- not saying that, but just my sentiment

yeah, it can be worse than i usually expect

well that sounds pretty awkward but i doubt it'd happen again, having that experience

i had never been to a panera so i just wanted to see what the fuck they had
it was empty when i went in

in that situation i would just let the next person go ahead
but i don't know what a panera is like

Oh, there wasn't a next person
it was an entirely separate line. I was the only person in the line and she closed the register and moved to another register that had like four or six people
so i stayed there and looked at the menu
and they kept telling me to come to the front of the other line
no you fuckers i'm not ready

like literally what did you say to them

"no, that's okay. you go ahead"
>it's okay, you were first. go on to the front
"i'm not ready yet, you go ahead"

and this is a business district area so it was everybody getting their morning coffees in business attire and such
and a really gentrified area
for some reason i find everything here highly intimidating
i never had problems in saint louis really. the demeanor there is just different and is what i'm used to

yeah gentrified places used to cause me anxiety too

when i first moved here, the first week i was here, i got some really scathing glares for trying to buy wine at the grocery store on sunday
along with my groceries
fuckin i didn't know that some states dont sell alcohol on sundays
that's new to me

if people are glaring at you for not happening to know weird rules that's on them

YEAH
but i don't like dealin with that
i don't mind fucking things up or being weird
it's navigating out of the situation that gives me issues

it is in moments of novel awkwardness that i truly feel alive

>Dear White People is a 2014 American satirical comedy-drama film,[3][4] written, directed, and co-produced by Justin Simien. The film focuses on escalating racial tensions at a prestigious Ivy League college from the perspective of several African American students
Hey hey does anyone wanna watch this?

Bloody fuck my bro can be as stubborn and unco-operative as me at times.
>hey mind if I bring over some stuff with car toeve?
>no I am cleaning and shit
like what are you cleaning or clearing and if you are doing that, why did you reject my proposal from yesterday that I'd come over to help clear a moving path and clean the floors and shit...
and we anyhow will have to clean the place up on saturday or sunday whatsoever.

what is toeve
is that today evening

today and tonight, but this morning and this evening
so why not toeve?

>Not all right
Not Lawful Good enough!

Or Lawful Neutral whoops.

>>>/@grindr/829404603493949440
Can't sleep 😴

what if you can never sleep again

You'll just have to make your dreams reality.

Sean Spicer Press Conference soon o'clock

>>20732
>alright
triggered
this is how you get a publication rejected or get fired from court reporting

>>20737
D O R A G O N

I S H T A R

H A R D - O N

N I P A H

A slutty Rin is fine too.

Oh wait they're all slutty.

>A completely normal Rin

Hmm, I have the van for 5 hours, which should be way more than enough.
But driving between the two storing places and the new place, not to mention getting the van and driving it back.
That will easily take a minimum of 1:30
But then again
>3:30 to pack and unpack a van
Emptying the house took, afterall, just 4 hours last time, and I was worse prepared that time

empty and moving out*

Time to watch Dear White People

I feel like I'm about to watch the origin story of the current insanity of the US

>>20751
I doubt it is anything like that.

So white

Until you get to media, where there's diversity

Do people actually study philosphy, like, as it's own thing?
Like you would study medicine or something

>>20755
Yes

How do they intend to be useful

>>20757
By really making you think.

Also

CAF is that shit they do to "drug dealers" and stuff, right?
Where if they "think you're involved in drugs", they take your shit and sell it without due process?

>>20760
Yes

I'm amazed that's even constitutional
I'm not sure it IS constitutional

>>20762
Its probably not.

Related
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/nypd-revealing-the-truth-about-the-millions-we-seize-would-lead-to-systems-crashes-9114344

>>20757
some state jobs and such hire them at times, but I think most of them wind up becoming other philosophy teachers

also ethics boards and such

>>20764
civil forfeiture is just so illegal as a concept

I think this might be... poking fun at the main character

Oh she's actually FOR segregation
...like the current left

I mean the movie's only 2 years old, so

>“So what you’re telling me is that property retrieval is reserved for those that can afford it?”
>"Yes"
HAHAHAHAHHA

Oh yeah if the cops CAF your shit, you can buy it back from the auction I think
If they left you anything to buy it with
They can take any cash, any cars, and anything valuable like a TV

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/every-insult-the-left-uses-to-troll-conservatives-explained
>Come up from the basement to learn about these insults, and there might just be some tendies in it for you.
SAVAGE
A
V
A
G
E

>>20771
This is getting //referring to getting it back before it is auctioned.

12k views on new moomin finnish dub clip
40 likes, 450 dislikes
hahaha
no one is defending it practically

And whole shit is caused, because while the new tv-company that is beginning to air the HD mastered version of it this year could get the visual material, the audio material was locked behind the previous state owned tv-company. And they were all NUH-UH you not gonna get anything from us for any price.
And thus they were forced to redub it.
The result is... bad just bad.
I mean, the original finnish dub wasn't that good to begin with, but each actor atleast had passion doing it. And then add that they softened the series and partially most likely "censored" it.
And "modernised the language" whatever that means, but at the very least it means "you are pronounced husnabd and wife" got changed to "married partners"
Because a man and woman having a wedding has to use gender neutral terms nowadays it seems.

The cops can already take everything you own and freeze your bank account (I think) because they "thought they saw you do a thing maybe" with 0 court or judges involved
But Trump's the fascist

What the fuck, is this the black version of The Wave?

Wouldn't be an american movie without a love plot

>>20781
Dead Man is an American movie and it didn't have a love plot.

>>20782
The surely it didn't do well financially

>>20783
You would be correct, but I would like to add that the (probably) greatest living American film critic wrote an entire book about it.

Here's a fat tiger

Anyways its a good movie and I highly recommend it.

I'll look into it

All the characters so far are just horrible human beings

>>20788
Sometimes that can make movies really enjoyable.

Except I think it's trying to make me empathize with some of them
Actually the only NOT shit human being is the character whose only defining traits is being gay and being black
That is ALL I know about the person

>>20790
You probably just don't know enough about him to hate him yet.

It's 40 minutes into the movie!

test 123 test

>>20793 newfags can't into shitposting on this engine

So this guy is one of the writers on that new Dear White People show Netflix is making

Now I don't wanna seem alarmist or nothin'
But I think he might be in favor of racial segregation and other social justice causes

In 24 hours I am most likely slightly intoxicated and playing some 3D tetris at my new place.

>>20796
but really
what social justice is there to be fighting for
in terms of what is written down in the law, every western nation has reached quite good peak situation.

>>20799
People are still ALLOWED to make non-optimal choices

>>20799
There's a lot of social "justice" to fight for.
Unless you want to try and sell me on Western societies being socially balanced.

There's also a few other things that you can't really fight with legislation, like people being more likely to get a job if they're named something that sounds white and male
Shit like that

But as I said, you can't really legislate this, and most of it isn't even conscious to begin with so what the fuck are you gonna do

Change the attitude of the people?
I mean I know it sounds like a lofty goal but that's kind of the core point of social justice movements.

>>20801
"in terms of what is written down in the law"
attitudes are something that always need adapting, and take much longer, but htye have to come willingly and through education
rather than forcing them down people's throats with silly laws.

>>20803
That's the problem
It's not conscious, and I would assume it happens to people who don't see themselves as racist at all

>>20804
I agree in some manner; social justice is something that at its heart isn't about changing legislature but changing people.
But at the same time some times some legislature helps.
I mean black rights movements was a social justice campaign before its time; but it's still a good thing that they went "oh wait maybe we should make this thing also illegal just in case".

Whole mess in europe is rooted down to simply people being pissed off ath they can't speak their mind without either being punished through mobs of people shouting them down
or like in germany, actual criminal punishment

there is much more to it of course, but that is one o the major reasons people have had enough of the EU project

>>20806
Social justice is mainly about changing legislation, though
Or formal rules, at the very least, like the rules colleges have on their campuses and whatnot

"You either segregate the whites away from the whites or you should step down" isn't about changing attitudes

>>20806
Whatever the case, if the legislation makes any ethnic group or something "more valuable" or "more protected" however you view that, it will eventually cause problems and tensions.
law should treat everyone equally and people educated to accept that.

The problem is they need those protections in some forms because of how tilted western society is towards white cultures.

Well you just make it "discrimination of any kind"
And while it indeed is written down on the paper like that, I don't know of a case of someone suing a company for discriminating them because they were white
or atleast them getting it handled in the court.
I mean, that is rare as fuck but it does happen.

>>20811
Also in terms of european nations, aside from UK which has been a mixpot like USA forever.
Every country is a nation state
So it ain't that surprising they are biased towards on culture and its practice.
*one
They were afterall founded with the idea of one nation, one people.

bbl doing comp maintenance

>>20813
Though, one has to question, since most european nations were founded on that idea and several European empires were divided into "one nation, one people" basis
Where the fuck did Yugoslavia come from then?

The only reason it lived as long as it did, was communism

Where's blu at

dead

shoveling snow
was anyway

Here the artist colored it

That's what I need today.
Thanks takagi

So what does she say?

Something about your questionable heterosexuality

"ur gay"

Fat tiger

how do you even say "ur gay" in nippon

There's a big deal about taking money from Candid on the youtubes now apparently
I'm not sure how much of this is legal and how much is ethics, but I do know in the UK the laws are pretty strict, and they are here too
But the US, who knows

Hey hey TN

que?

OverlordxYoujoSenki

dnno, with the voice actor voicing clementine, it kinda happened

I wish we'd get S2
Preferably S3
We can skip S2 tbh

Lizardmans can be an ONA show or something

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/09/shock-study-45-percent-of-high-school-teachers-support-public-ban-on-offensive-speech/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social
Ruh roh

I am ded tired
>>20844
I just paid a huge electric bill.
This sucks.
I have to pay probably a huge gas bill in april too.

Life does not want me to have savings.

i'm just dead

>>20844
Here is an injection of life

>>20843
stop using electricity

>>20843
Hang in there. I've got a couple massive bills coming up too, including taxes. since i'm my own company, i have to pay all my taxes lump instead of having it taken out of each paycheck
taxes due in april

did someone ask for smug/happy saten

>>20847
i love all of these

>>20848
That sounds pretty stressful too.
I wish I could just get to work and have all my bills paid with money left over.

It sucks I am being over charged for a car share, but it is cheaper than the trains and bus.
people are cunts.

>>20850
Better get ready

Cause so do I

This is the last one at this location of my folder

>>20851
You're working hard to make it
I can tell
Hang in there.

>>20842
>“People should be allowed to express unpopular opinions” — just as long as those unpopular opinions aren’t “offensive” and couldn’t “be seen as bullying others.”
soo...
you can't say unpopular opinions.

Do they even realize Trump and his crew would be the ones saying what is and isn't offensive right now?

Nope

Like if you're scared of Trump, your general stance should be "The government should have as few vague laws as possible."

"You shouldn't be allowed to say offensive things"
Like dude
The guy IN CHARGE right now, with both congress AND the senate backing him, gets offended at basically every mention of his name, all criticism
In fact, criticism is almost inherently OFFENSIVE if you're loose enough with the term
It's critique of you as a person, that's almost necessarily going to cause offense if it's true

>>20856
You hang in there too moon!

>>20862
hit me up sometime when you have a day off
we should do something when you're not dead tired and when i'm not dead

Also here's a Saten

That would be a neat pairing.

It's the only one I have of the two in the same image, I think

"The judge wasn't talking about Trump's comments specifically, he was talking about all comments like that."
-Sean Spicer

Pls
America pls

You were laffos before but it's time to dial it down before the rest of the world switches to a currency backed by clips of the american government doing stuff

>>20864
;_; so sad

i am also gold

Because this shit is GOLD

>>20869
GOLDEN EXPERIENCE!

is this now the main one since nobody went to rin's

This was the main one the whole time, I just wasn't paying attention

It looked like a watch thread!

>the one time a watch thread turns into a main thread is the one time people actually notice it's a watch thread

Magilou is cute

>tfw early

ou've been visited by the bang of happy thursdays

Fuck, man, I'm just gonna go to bed
Tired anyway

Tired of this humanity thing

Is this the thread?

nah

it is

It's misleading if you say no and then yes!

dont leave m e alone with this baby

Don't worry Rika, it is
Evening

remember when kancolle was relevant

It still is to lots of people.
>>20884
Yes.

>>20890
It never was.

That dragon is cute

Oh, it's good that it's that thread.

It was pretty hot today.
It was like 84 degrees.
>>20896
One of my friends in NYC said his law office was closed and he had to work from home. Must be bad.

wow rub it in why don't you

>two bogan women screaming in each others face at the bus interchange
Its good to be home.
>>20895
That's hardly hot at all!

Yesterday was 64
today was 8 inches of snow

Tomorrow will be 50 or so in the morning

My mom worked // "worked" from home today

Fuckin bipolar weather

>>20897
It's hot for Winter!

>baby sneezes
>drops pacifer
>cries
stop this

who made this

>>20895
It was bitterly cold here today.

I'm starting to remember a lot of thing really randomly and suddenly
like a whole lot
it feels like when you find an old hard drive you forgot about and you plug it in and check out years worth of files and folders you forgot about

>>20902
i was talking to someone from Florida for a while yesterday. One of the international students. Do

weather was cold
I was bitter

im gonna roll
like right now

Do you know a place called (spelling) Kissamee?

>>20909
good luck!

>>20910
Yeah, Kissimmee is pretty bigish
About 2 hours from me, north

>>20911
pray for me

here we goooo
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
1 4* frederick
rest 3*

>>20913
5 star
4 star repeat
3 star
3 star
5 star repeat

>>20912
I see I see.
Well I got to learn all about Florida food, Florida culture. Florida people.
It was interesting.

>>20917
No. But apparently it's pretty common for Aligators to get up into residential houses.
>>20918
W
I
N
K

Jan did a 5roll and got two 5* robins the other day haha

>>20915
Did you learn about froglegs and alligator tail?

B A N G

>>20915
Haha maybe not quite common but certainly something that happens
Usually they just get into backyards

Sometimes swimming pools

Spooky.

Alligators aren't too scary
They're pretty non-hostile unless you go and fuck with them

They're basically dragons

It's crocs you have to watch out for.
As an australian you should know these things!

>>20923
>>20923
>>20923
Whoops. Thata a lot of post links

Anyway. The difference is that in Australia all the big 4meter man killer crocs live up in the Northern wastelands where nobody lives anyway

>>20925
How big do the nile ones get?

Florida crocodiles have never been recorded as killing anyone
There are however extremely violent and deadly nile crocodiles in the Everglades now

Niles can be up to 20ft

>>20924
Not sure but Rin seems to have an idea
Nile Crocs kill tons of people in Egypt every year
Very aggressive

Crikey.

crocs are living fossiles

Accelerate handbag production
these ancient beasts must be subjugated to the winds of capitalism
turn it all to dust

And then sell them the dust.

it's a powERFUL APHROdeezIAC

gonna snort croc dust

afro deez yak

>>20933
is that just the shedded skin that accrues from people wearing Crocs

What a terrifying picture.

>>20935
DISGUSTING

the more disgusting the mental image, the more potent the cancer killing auras

The baby has been dispelled.

>>20939
Oh no

it took forever to farm 20 orbs and i got frederick again

Are you fulfilling an ancient curse?

>>20942
wowme2
last pull had 4 duplicates

I don't mind duplicates but it saddens me when it isn't on or above the first one

just believe

>>20948
welcome home

no
please no

what was the deciding factor on not playing 2 again
was it the ending of the first one

it was so unrealistic
like you start the game with this magical spray that can find fingerprints and blood anywhere and a device that uses a laser to scan blood samples and record finger prints and shit like that

oh, you started playing the second one and it was just so bad?

yeah i played like 30 minutes and quit

>>>/watch?v=bD6sTDH9Zdc

>>20954
>>>/watch?v=IbYTgs4aqXg
i was disappointed that you missed like half of the cookies side quest

oh i can't link to a specific time on through moe
oh well it was just a scene that you missed
your shit dad compliments the cookies and you say you'll go have some in a bit and then your shit dad tells you you cant because he ate them all

fuck the cookies

>>20942
I know that feeling.

ssssssssomebody sssstopmeh

>10000 feathers as log-in reward
halfway to getting another 5* then woo

i guess i'll use it to get 5* anna

>>20961
it was for the twitter tyhingy

>>20960
what's wrong with that centipede

>>20964
bitten by an AMD radeon

>>20962
what's her special ability
they should add Saten to the game

she gets vantage 3 and she has a sword that lets her move to any ally if her health reaches 40% or below
very nice

Ive only seen one centipede so far in tennessee
i'm so disappointed
i might see if i can go buy some or something
it's lonely without them

>>20967
vantage? Is that movement range?

>>20969
vantage means that if an enemy attacks her while her hp is 75% or below that, she gets to attack first

There are too many good green characters I want to use.
Same with reds.

>>20970
wow
so oneshot her or mage her or die

>>20973
yeah, she's strong
and if her hp gets too low, she can teleport to any ally
she also grants +3 res to allies near her

I can not WAIT for Nephenee

i can not WAIT for my food to arrive

but you are

come to my funeral

i'll try

when is it

NOW

i can't go to texas right now

can't you have it tomorrow instead

bang's last meal: soggy fries

I don't understand what is enjoyable about crafting systems other than the discovery.
It's all spreadsheets and gathering.
Spreadsheets: the Gathering
And once you get past the spreadsheet phase it's like...
"Look at all this shit I have to do."
The fastest way to what you want is compiling all the data into an easy to read list and yet the list tells you all the fun you aren't about to have.

>>20986
i want to do that

I want a magic crafting system where ever player has different recipes and you have to go out in the world and gather stuff and experiment with different cooking methods and shit
become a master potion brewer through science, not wikis

>>20986
10/10

The problem is that you end up with incredible confusion.
If everyone has different recipes, then there's no way to properly map what's needed. Outside of the people making lists to throw on the internet, now you just have to make your own list

yeah the discovery is the fun part if you ask me
maybe you invest a lot of time honing your potions and word gets around that yours are the best, people start gathering your ingredients
and one day you try a random combination that creates something totally new and it breaks the meta

I would like to see a game like Atelier but a MMO where some people are more crafter/gatherer types and they go out into the wilds to get random crap.
And some places are dangerous so you need the fighter types to go with you.

>>20991
it's not quite to that level, but for being 20 years old, ragnarok had an alchemist ranking system and people put a whole lot of specialization into the tiniest improvements
so like a couple well known biochems who had top tier products could sell potions at 7k a pop that some other people can't sell for 1500 a pop, just because they're like 30% more potent
and when potions have weight and you're on a weight limit, carrying 30% fewer potions or healing 30% more per potion during PVP was massive

The biggest problem with that idea is that games don't work the way that real life does. Specifically, you can be a fighter and a gardener at the same time. Not even talking about the character itself. I mean the person playing can just have a warrior, and then swap to their alchemist character when they need to mix things.

If you want to "make it work like real life", you will need a compelling argument to convince your players why this MMO only allows 1 character slot.

Also, for those people who actually DO end up liking the game, don't be surprised when they buy an extra account just to get around this.

so make them work like real life

>>20995
>sorry, can't go to work today boss. ive got to stay at home and work in this video game

>>20993
pretty cool, I wish I had played RO back in the day
>>20994
time to start modeling drug interactions
your character has a hidden genotype and so rolling a new character is no guarantee the potions will work on you

>>20996
>i can't come in, a fighter just agreed to take me through the Forest of Phallic Fruit for free

>>20997
RO was a pioneer in customization
there was no skill path, stat route meta
the way the stat customization worked was fucking insanely good.
the same company (gravity? or maybe some of the same concept team) released something or other recently but i can never remember the name of it, or if it's even out yet
sugoi and rika know the name i remember them talking about it

i can't come in to work today boss, i'm going to bed bye forever

ya fired

>>21000
goo nie

bye

I still have yet to find a way to make crafting not a completely tedious venture >>21004
nope

>>21003
have you played puzzle pirates

>>21003
Play Atelier.
They're games completely about crafting.
Well, mostly about crafting.

>>21003
puzzle pirates had puzzle-based crafting
pretty fun puzzles, too, to be honest
somewhat luck-based, but a good strategy involves minimizing the cost or impact of bad luck
and best puzzlers were best crafters
the swordfighting pvp puzzles in puzzle pirates was one of the coolest and most in-depth minigames ive ever seen

crafting should have a high skill ceiling
like you gotta cook things the right amount of joules and avoid burning stuff and take into account the random weights of the ingredients or watch the pot for bubbling
stuff like that
and the results shouldn't just be HP goes up, there will be side effects or unintended interactions

>>21007
There are issues with that, although it'd be nice
let me put these towels in the dryer

>>21007
like playing cooking mama on the wii with a low-sensitivity wiimote

>>21007
ive seen this before, where low-skill potions would have some negative effects of varying types, but you wouldn't know what they were. it's not like it says on the description, though i think it said its purity or something, like 37% pure
but for the life of me i can't remember what this was from

yeah hidden effects for sure, you'd have to test them out

hell make drinking a potion a mini game in itself
if you drink something with too much acid content too fast you might throw it up
or maybe there are dregs at the bottom that have nasty effects
take a quick swig in battle or sip slowly at camp

i liked in skyrim that you couldn't know what ingredients did til you mixed them together, and there we re so many
but that's still just record-keeping
mmo wikis ruin that

that's why puzzle pirates comes to mind. you had to have a real keen grasp on how the minigame for alchemy worked
they also had like brewing, shipwright, carpentry, swordfighting, digging for treasure, navigation, battle nav with ships, bilging, sailing, and a bunch of others that i can't even think of
but every skill, there was a puzzle for it, and they were all amazing puzzles. i still go back and play it just to play the carpentry puzzle sometimes

>>21012
always wondered what puzzle pirates was about

we must go deeper
destroy
al
spoilers

I fucking love atelier.
Crafting shit and being cute alchemist is great.

This girl is cute

>>21014
amazing game to be honest
if you get rich enough to buy (or make) your own ship, (there are varying sizes, from small little 4-man boats to 30+) you get to captain it and hire jobbers (sailors, carpenters, battle nav, gunners, etc) and there's rankings in all of these. If you load up with grand masters your ship will be tearing the oceans apart -- you can battle against NPC tradeships for small goods, or engage another player ship and take like 70% of their booty
sailing, bilging, and carpentry (since ships take damage) all determine how fast you move, which in general nav is just a base speed, but in battle nav it's like a grid system where you get more moves per turn with more speed and less damage/water weighing you down
outside of the pirating, there's a whole slew of trades
there's like shipwrights, blacksmiths who make swords, brewers who brew rum, alchemists, fishmongers, ton of shit

cute witch

>>21017
i wanna brew a rum
sounds pretty deep

i wanna watch the new ring movie

>>21020
thoughts on eleanor

>>21021
i havent acquired her yet
reminds me of a worse leia

fresh
shredded
butt

Gensokyo has some really interesting political dynamics.
The human village in WaHH and FS has a lot of interesting stuff happening around it.
I kinda want more stuff about the normal humans

>>21024
reisen 4 prez

what were you gonna say about high skill ceilings i'm curious

The bar for skill is on both the player and the dev but I'm thinking mainly from the dev side. I don't know how balancing a skill-based crafting system would look like (although, that sounds like quite the mission).
The few things in my head were generally based on the economic effect such a thing would have in an MMO. If you have skill-based crafting for most items, say potions for instance, then there are going to be lots of different kinds of potions you can get. ...And now I just realized a NEW problem but I'll get to that after. How will the economy move in a system where the best potions, weapons, armor, etc, aren't based on luck drops or spreadsheets but by the people who are good at building it?
A potion can heal you, but it can also cure poison, but it can also have negative effects. How do you // When this kind of thing is possible, how do you make sure that the game can still have a healthy economy and not just have all the good potion people in a single guild selling things at high markups because no one can have that consistency?
It gets to a point where you want to evade some of the troubling economic problems in real life. And if you don't plan for it, or have a quick useful remedy to it, things will go south.

The OTHER new problem I just thought up was that if you have an incredibly variable system for stuff like potions than how the hell are you going to use them as a player?
Most games you have usable items stacked into a single slot and it's just "Okay, I use this. I get my MP back."
But levels of quality changes. Either you have a lot of set kinds of items (which wouldn't be as interesting to the crafter), or a wildly different method of item consumption.

apparently if you go something like 3 level ones and a high level in arena, its easier kinda
but you might lose to their solo high level guy

>>21028
do you get more points for higher levels though?

Apparently Steve Bannon invested $60,000,000 in a business venture for gold farming in WoW.
https://www.wired.com/2016/09/trumps-campaign-ceos-little-known-world-warcraft-career/

>>>/@realDonaldTrump/829836231802515457
CRUISE CONTROL ENGAGED
if he dictates his tweets did he yell this at the top of his lungs?
>>21032
i just do hardest tier every time and bait the AI
only lost once, freaking takumi

>>21029
not sure
but you can probably do the hardest tier

im scared of double takumi

>>21027
on balancing--the system is too variable to be really balanced, but I would have spell ingredients come and go on a seasonal basis, so unless you can find exact substitutes, the meta evolves continually
OPness would come and go

on economics, I'd like to see less accumulation of capital and more accumulation of mechanical skill and institutional knowledge. maybe a lineage-style game like Rogue Legends where you start from newgame+ after death
if people consolidate power too easily, add more mechanics that make backstabbing easier
cooperation is hard though, I'm not worried about that so long as capital can't be stockpiled infinitely

i'm thinking these potions will be more about surviving in a harsh world than a traditional rpg battle which frankly bores me

>>21022
She's faster than Leia and can into spells
She's fun

>>21033
>Double Takumi
Why is this possible?

You can have multiples of the same person on a team? Anet pls nerf

yeah

>Can have two Takumis on the same team
>Can't have two Verniys on the same team
One of these games knows what they're doing

>can't make Inazuma 11

>>21034
I guess a game's combat mechanics would have to be deeply tied into making that work.
Skill and knowledge can be gained via practice but money answers everything that you either can't do or won't do.

As far as balance goes, there's no such thing as too much.
That said, seasonal changes is actually a very good way to maintain it.
There's a commonly accepted expectation that things will phase out and new things will phase in with players. It's like MtG formats in that sense. Standard, specifically.
Even still, things get banned or limited or tweaked.

I think one of the issues that I have is that "Crafting" is an element of the game rather than a mode of the game.
Like with any MMO, you'd call it a system. You have your combat system, you have your crafting system, etc.
But it's really just an element that adds to the game mode. [PvE, PvP, WvW in GW2]

delet money
make a game with no numbers onscreen

Rather than being an "element" of the game, it needs to look like an entirely different game mode.
That's what I think.
It almost sounds pretentious but that's really the issue. Crafting isn't an experience, it's just something you do. Crafting can GUIDE your experience (fetch quests for items, doing certain missions and fighting specific enemies for materials) but it's not an experience in itself.

Puzzles are a neat way to fill that gap but it needs to be bigger than just that.

sittin here with 64000 points and the next highest is 11,000
i'm just collecting all the wind tiles and watching them play all paranoid thinking there are still winds out on the field
4's, 6's, and winds
anyone who can still make a hand gets a big kudos in my book

>>21042
i've been thinking about a game that starts out with no combat but just pure survival
you have to make risky voyages to get the stuff that keeps you alive, like every week
see who can survive the longest
combat can be worked out later
without pvp conflict and hidden crafting mechanics, balance is less of an issue and it's more about being good at movement and getting lucky with drops and crafting

but i guess you can't just shoehorn combat in later and expect everything to be harmonious

>>21046
like multiplayer recettear but instead of paying off debt you're keeping your health above 0?

like a weekly health i mean
like a hunger survival meter

>>21047
with speedrun mechanics
the best players show off on twitch
and have long tenures on the scoreboard

>>21046
sounds kind of like dwarf fort but without combat

It's more like Dark Souls except completely different

>>21048
yeah or it might be like you need some fountain to be active to keep your species alive
and also a hunger thing but you're a mountain goat and you only eat alpine moss
so there's a weekly migration

or for hardcore players you have to refresh every 48 hours, with more dangerous paths, but you have a overall longer lifespan than the weekly casuals

communal goals / objectives? or is that individual and competitive?

how about far cry primal but it's multiplayer and you can craft rudimentary traps for hunting large game -- traps not being individual items to be used, but utilizing physics and compound measures
not particularly complex ones, but just simple things that can be used in conjunction
and also defending from neighboring clans/tribes who want to steal your mammoths or your loot stashed in your cave

hunting game is good
i want to reenact the wilderbeast stampede in the Lion King
cross the canyon by dodging and rolling

you'd have to follow the herd -- kill a mammoth and a sabretooth might just slay you and steal your kill

>>21055
>>>/watch?v=UmPmpUTr22c

>>21057
haha classic
i miss messing around in 3d studio max

have you ever played RPG world online
it was made in visual basic back in like 19 fucking 90
the most oldschool shit and servers had like eight people on average

that game had a lot of complexities in a pretty simple format

very survival based too
you could freeze to death, starve, die of thirst, get murdered by monsters, die of exhaustion
you had to set up territory fast and build a farm and raise some sheep for their hides
got maintainable once you had an herb garden to make potions, but the thing is that you set all this up and anyone can fucking stroll in and take all your fucking shit
so people came up with clever defenses
because they'd have to keep their shit safe while they were gone all day

sounds like Rust 0.1

doing some firsthand research with MUDs might give you some good ideas too
imo it's all about simple mechanics that can be used in complex ways, rather than gathering resources and making specific items

Ryjbb the economy please

>>21062
i used to play discworld MUD
dat spellcasting system

muds were crazy

>>21063
what did he mean by this
>>21065
i always wanted to write one
it's a hard sell these days though

>>21066
naw there are still hardcore MUD players
the only problem is they're in their 30's now so you'd have to gear it a little more towards that time flexibility

yeah i log on once in a while to check in
but like
i miss having complex movement
sigh
those were simpler times

i don't miss EIGHTEEN DIFFERENT TEXT COLORS flashing across the client at 20 lines per second
holy shit i almost had seizures with that shit

oh that doesn't sound right
discworld was rate limited pretty well but it was annoying to wait
i had various areas memorized and could queue up all the movement commands and then sit back

i dont remember what it was, but i played a very active one

holy crap these purple haired teeth monsters hit for 3 hearts wtf i forgot how hard lttp is

man this shit is way spookier than twilight princess

>>21044
i wonder if satisfying puzzles could be procedurally generated
like if we break down what it is about a puzzle that makes it fun
make randomly a high-level description of a puzzle like "the player must realize that changing the water level will expose this cavern but render the boat inaccessible, thus they have to shoot an arrow from a certain vantage, etc etc"
and then instance it into world geometry

>>>/watch?v=YMpltlOn_TQ

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