From what I gather you're supposed to follow the law as much as possible, while gaining money and stuffs, I guess?
Anno
Well, not exactly follow the law, just don't get caught by the cops when you don't
Anno
lets have an intellectual discusion
Anno
how do you feel about foreshadowing?
Anno
In what context?
Anno
in general i guess i get a feeling that people like to look for foreshadowing and pointing it out but i don't really get the appeal of it i guess if it's in a manga series you could treat it as a sign that the author thought ahead a bit but still on it's own i'm not really sure if anything makes it good maybe there's an enjoyment angle to it since it's nice to predict things, and foreshadowing kinda allows for it?
sk
It lets the audience be more involved And it can be used to build tension and give meaning to everything that happens between the foreshadowing and the foreshadowed event
Anno
is it like a spoiler that you're not sure if it's true or not
sk
it can be a spoiler that you're not sure about the details for Like in Berserk you get fed the information that Guts truly HATES Griffith, but when the manga starts Golden Arc, they become really good friends, and you can't see what could make him hate Griffith so fucking much Or what happened
You know it's gotta be real bad though
Anno
is golden age a flashback arc or something?
sk
Yeah it's a flashback
sk
It's a single flashback with 3 movies, hahah
Anno
can you really call that foreshadowing
sk
Well it's not technically foreshadowing, but you could accomplish the same with foreshadowing
Anno
i guess so it's probably hard to pull off as well if it's too subtle people might ignore it if it's too obvious it's kinda tasteless
sk
It's generally best to be too subtle rather than too obvious, but it's a difficult tool to use
sk
I love how in this stream they always just have to let NPCs go for crimes cause you can't stop an NPC So an NPC rams a cop at 90mph, and they just go "whoa, ok", then run over to bust a guy who threw some paper on the ground and littered
Anno
Driving normally was weirdly satisfying when I was a kid playing gta I don't know how it would play out doing everything else according to laws in GTA though
sk
I almost want to try this RP thing out But it'd have to be in a controlled server to be fun, and whitelist means, you know Hard to get in on it
I guess I'll also just watch a Korea play some Battlegrounds Or maybe not Maybe not indeed
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
lol 2-3 for finland overtime win in the hockey game I forgot too yesterday man our team sucks
Anno
>wahizu lives again
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
AND SWITZERLAND WON AGAINST CANADA?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I think I will watch tonights game
Ploof
Why is Reisen holding Suika?
Anno
the watermelon is very important
Ploof
She looks lost. Does she need help?
Anno
it's alright tewi will come to pick her up
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
top keke of the year
TN !PcAPtAiNJoMaria
I think foreshadowing really makes a show more enjoyable on its rewatch, because you can see how details you otherwise missed call forwards to future events.
>>127116 foreshadowing also makes plot twists not feel like asspulls.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
best part of reading wheel of time or re-reading
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
tfw mother's day
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Forced to do something nasty?
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Yeah, talk to my mom!
Anno
>>127164 shows are usually kinda more thought through so maybe they did actually do an asspull and then put in the foreshadowing after that to make it seem less so!
AnnoTN !PcAPtAiNJo
Warlus Zoidberg
Anno
that was not a nice episode
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Jack's face has too many angles
TN !PcAPtAiNJoTN !PcAPtAiNJo
I mean come on
Anno
still got the chin though
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>soemthing's poking me if this is what this episode is about... it is
Anno
enjoy
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
This seems like something out of a DMC game
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Also why is the girl still wearing leaves?
Anno
clothes is a new concept she needs time to adjust
Rin
>>127168 faito Maybe you can ignore her for your grandmother instead
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
the character art and animations seem real bad this episode too
Anno
the real question is did aizen come in and kill all the writers and convinced everyone else they are alive like he sis with central 46
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
also what is this space SCP?
sk
Ask Totalbiscuit what genre a game is, and he will go on a 30 minute monologue
sk
Also I've actually seen this, but not very often, people arguing "soulslike" shouldn't become the term used, because it focuses it around a single game and constricts the genre But I mean Roguelike
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
soulslike roguelike who cares? they are just labels
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
the only label video games really need is "satanic" tbh
>>127190 if it's not in support of jesus christ it's probably satanic
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Also i you have an extremely dangerous space criminal regenerating monster that is about impossible to kill except with that one weapon why did you bother trying to contain ti and not just kill it?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
also first jack episode I disliked
Anno
science or something
sk
>>127192 The sword won't Kill Aku either It hurts him
At least on moe you don't hav e a choice to be around only x and y, you're getting stuck with z also
Anno
>>127221 you can make a video and earn money instead!
sk
Also youtube drama is only sometimes about people not getting along Right now it's about actual identity theft and attempts at defamation
There's not gonna be some drama on the moes where one of us tried to threaten another one with blackmail or something
sk
blackmail is a super cool word, by the way It's such a cool term
Anno
i think you can explain part of it with youtube just being a large community
sk
Eh I think it's strange anyway
People have gotta start realizing they can just not watch people they don't like's videos If the bear man is being a cunt in his videos, just don't watch them, talk shit about them, whatever
Anno
>>127228 what are they doing instead of not watching?
sk
Well in this case doxxing, creating a social media account using said dox to make it seem as though the person was a stalker, a rapist, and a rapist-in-wait for his ex girlfriend to be alone somewhere
Anno
sounds like there's maybe more to it than just not liking
sk
There's no real line between the two for some people
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127225 >implying i'm not blackmailing half of /moe/
Hmm Well i found the bottle neck in my industry I don't or the world doesn't produce enough copper for me to produce enough electric gears and jigs that I need to keep my tanks in action last big war kinda halted after the first few weeks My glorious russki panzerwagen rolled over the german lines and then they shouted "hey we need spare parts" and my supply people answered "the world doesn't produce enough of them"
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
wow I have a province of 32k people and 14k of them are in the army... well 32k working people
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
hmm a copper province badly utilized in china with a 2 million population I think I know what needs to be done
AnnoTN !PcAPtAiNJo
I gotta say I have a colourful parliament
Nanairo
it's too late to go Lenin i guess.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
yeah the communists NEARLY took over I took the support rug at the last minute from them, though
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
So communist china vs japan war which side should I fund?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
BOTH SIDES
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
The weirdest thing in this run has been the birth of norwegian colonial empire
Another 500k rebels killed and not even my citizens Is too bad you can't prompt rebellions in satellite countries it is an easy way to keep them in line and from growing too powerful a good 10% to 20% population purge every few decades
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
and I am supposed to be a liberal democracy...
Arisu
It can't be helped
sk
Paul Joseph Watson has spent the last few days on twitter thinking an image of him smoking is triggering the SO CALLED TOLERANT LEFT But people are actually just mocking him for thinking an image of him smoking with a sepia filter is cool
Anno
the new re creators character was fun
skAnnosk
bad kanna image
ToN
Flip floop
Anno
flip
Anno
floop
sk
Sand Castle shows the Iraq war as pretty awful
Anno
the 2 main girls in re:creators VA are the 2 maids from re:zero
sk
Ram is the redhead I assume?
Anno
yep
Anno
wait no i messed that up only one of them is main ram is magical girl and rem is the mage
So logically as the nation of India formed it got then occupied by Indian nationalists for a decade which then splintered the nation losing it about 40% of its size to former indian substates and now it is besieged by commies and fascists andw hatnot radicalists The game turns sometimes weird
sksk
Gonna catch up on Shingeki no Titans
sk
>>127310 I love how in the commercial, the guy with the thing hadn't even used it that day But he still had it with him
sk
I mean it seems like it could be acceptable if it was a standalone thing, with maybe some better capacity
>>127333 they've been cycling generic rotating promotions lately so mostly not there's still some every once in a while but it's a little more well-paced now
>>127339 Well you'll be playing Cthulhu from 21:00-00:00 EST tonight.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Finally home.
AnnoYuu
>>127347 That reminds me, how do you feel about starting the game wait starting the anime right after the game ends, which is an hour earlier than usual?
Anno
Right after would be two hours earlier than usual, but I'm good either way. We normally run the game from 22:00-01:00 but I figure Tony and Kirara want to get to bed earlier since it's the start of a week tomorrow. If you want to start anime at 01:00 EST that's good too.
AnnoSamurai !KW2DbpWwls
from some code docs
>The possible values are "lowercase", "PascalCase", "camelCase", "snake_case", "SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE", "kebab-case".
Arisu
Hi
Yuu
hmm Maybe only an hour early then. That would be fine.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127353 screaming snake case is probably the best one
Anno
camelCase is an actual code term but I don't know the other ones.
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
snake_case is the most readable but SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE the most oldskool
Arisu
Snaaaaaaaaake
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
i give my life not for honor
Anno
But for AIUR
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I mean Ner'zhul
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
They're making a new Blade Runner? Why are they doing that?
Pink Autism
Because they like to ruin EVERYTHING
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127363 Because they saw how much money all the remakes of 80s movies have sooo far made Are they even making money did the arnold mars movie remake make money?
Koi-
2049 ya'll get hype because apparently, the cyberpocalypse is only like two or three decades away
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
It's kind of a relief to know the world manages to survive another two or three decades.
Anno
It's a little exciting that it's gonna all fall apart in our life times though.
Koi-
Wanna know what's super exciting? World War Waifus Support Team Julia today
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
I prefer Tharja but I am supporting Julia for you.
Koi-
Wow. What a friend. We'll win this. I believe in us.
Anno
You're gonna lost -lose to the fast ass.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Hard to defeat such a phat ass.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Apparently there's a coup or something going on in Ivory Coast Or I guess a mutiny Some army fellows there shot a bunch of civilians?
Pink Autism
I've got an immense craving for a burrito.
Koi-
>>127372 Not with me at the helm. I am leading this charge. Those losers in /feg/ can't predict my strength.
>>127393 is that enough to complain about his banner
Koi-
Ike is the main character of the GameCube game. Path of Radiance was really big and a lot of people liked it. And it's one of the few FE games with a straight on sequel. Ike himself is pretty OP.
>>127393 Yeah, the gacha is really cruel. Not getting 5*s increases your rate, but it doesn't generalize to other banners, so it's like, hey! buy orbs or you'll run out of time and miss out on your placebo bonus!
Anno
>>127397 i get the op characters banner a bit but not the part where it's also bad that it was followed by ike
ToN
It was followed by a character that people want had so more money please gib
Yuu
>>127400 Because they drained everyone's orbs with he OP character banner and then ran a banner with a character that is a must have for a lot of people. Both moves were very transparent money grabs.
Arisu
I though the banners were for increased rates?
sk
WOW
Anno
>>127402 but the op banner was nice kinda i got an op guy from that
i dunno i don't see the appeal of ike people can always complain about their favorite X following the op gatcha
>>127406 i haven't played a single fire emblem game
Koi-
They ran Hero Fest next to PoR. And it was very straining. I didn't even roll for Hero Fest at all. >>127405 Did you play Path of Radiance?
Yuu
>>127399 I think there is too much filler too. I have only been playing Granblue for a little while, and I already have some top tier characters. I have like one in FEH and I played for awhile. To make the FEH system even more cruel, heroes have random IVs and sometimes that great character you get is actually bad because something is wrong with a key stat.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Even if you don't like Ike, he's one of the most popular characters in the game. It was obviously a strategic move to get people to use their orbs so that they would buy orbs in order to get Ike.
>>127407 That's super true. The random IVs are probably the cruelest part.
Koi-
>>127405 Then you will never understand the feelings people have for Ike. You probably didn't understand me when I complained about this before but one of my BIGGEST ANNOYANCES with this game in the beginning was that they had ZERO (0) Path of Radiance characters available. Despite PoR being one of (if not the) most popular FE game ever.
Yuu
>>127405 To me, the OP character banner was a clear message that Nintendo realizes that they have a handful of characters in their game that absolutely blow away everyone else. And instead of doing something about it, they tried to sell them to you.
Ike is a must have for a lot of people because he is popular. Even if you don't understand his appeal, surely you can understand the feeling of wanting a character you really like!
>>127408 Yeah, the random IVs suck. I think the feather system is cruel too. If you get a character you like and it is only 3/4 stars it will be a long time before it is actually decent. There is not a lot of mobility when it comes to improving your characters.
Arisu
I like micaiah...
Anno
>>127410 well then they can't have any banner after the op one because people like characters! wow
>>127412 Surely you're just pretending to not understand, right?
>>127410 I wish that everything was available as 3-4 star and that they were cheaper in terms of feathers. I like being able to bring a 3* to a 5* because it gives me a ton of SP to work with.
Yuu
>>127412 I think it would be understood if it were a normal character's banner after the OP banner. Ika er
er
Ike is special. Ike is one of the most popular Fire Emblem characters. It was clear to everyone that this was a money grab!
ToN
>game has people roll to get good characters because they're more likely to get them so they spend all their rolls >i mediatrly follow with introducing characters lots of people want after they spend their rolls so they have to buy more rolls
how do you not see how this is a dick move
Koi-
>>127415 >one of THE THE MOST I'm pretty sure it ranked #1 in the pop chart. Then again, I think it was separated by gender. So it was without waifu bias. They finally released a few characters from the most popular game and then decided to run that next to the most popular characters by usefulness in game.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
The latest poll was Ike Roy Hector Chrom Ike Marth Ephraim Robin Takumi Leo
Ike is in there TWICE.
Yuu
>>127417 It was separated by gender. I think Lucia er Lucina is popular enough at least to cast doubt on the proposition that Ike is the most popular character.
Koi-
Lucina is popular as a waifu, not a character. But that's a completely DIFFERENT conversation that would definitely have no bearing on the outcome of such a fight.
Yuu
>>127420 Yes, that fact isn't necessarily a good thing for Ike. It is probably a good thing for Lucina in such a contest! Don't underestimate waifufags.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Lucina lost to Lyn in the latest popularity poll. Lyn received almost 50k votes and Lucina received 42k.
ToN
It's a shame that you guys say that Lyn is bad because I played that game a bit and she was a rad gal
Anno
I guess even the people that jumped on the Fire Emblem bandwagon with Awakening can't beat out the long-term fans that have been playing since long before.
Yuu
>>127422 Part of that is because Lucina is as unpopular as she is popular. But it's totally true that butt bothered nostalgiafags would vote for Ike since he is considered nostalgia even though he's also relatively new.
Koi-
>>127423 Lyn is great in FE7. In FEH, she doesn't compete against a lot of other Sword characters. Ones like Lucina. >>127425 I'd vote for Lyndis and Ike over Lucina as well. It's just... eh She's okay.
>>127425 also more recent lords are people like chrom
AnnoToN
I have that gal
Yuu
>>127428 Yeah, but Chrom isn't winning any popularity contests ever. That's kind of his thing now.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127431 That's what I mean. Ike's competition is people like Chrom. It's natural that Ike would come out on top.
Koi-
>tfw you chuck Chrom for feathers
ToN
Lucina is nice to look at if nothing else
Anno
she is the best
Yuu
>>127432 Yeah, that's true. I guess Ike is really the most recent lord with any amount of popularity at all, if you don't count Corrin due to his/her status as a customizable character.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Isn't female Corrin canon anyway?
Male and female Robin both ranked in their respective polls, but only female Corrin ranked, too. That's really funny.
Koi-
But seriously, why didn't they add normal FE characters in there at 3*/4*? All we got was the PoR roll and Sanaki. So many classic characters that I would actually remember and care about. Fuck Sacred Stones.
Yuu
>>127437 My understanding is that female Corrin is canon in conquest and male is in Hosbido, I can't remember the name for the Hoshido campaign.
I don't know who is canon in Revelation, that seems like the most important one too. I think with both the protagonists, the female versions are more popular than the guys.
>>127438 It would really be nice if they added the new characters in as 3/4 star characters in the gachas. That would fix a lot of my complaints with the gacha. So many nice characters are basically characters you'll never get unless you whale hard because they are 5 star only.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
All I really know is that the majority of merch is female Corrin.
The male poll after Fates was Leo, Xander, and Takumi. The female poll was Corrin, Camilla, and Oboro.
Koi-
>three of that one dude that I have never ever seen in the fucking game
Yuu
>>127440 Female Corrin is a very cute girl, while male Corrin just looks like a dork.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127444 Yeah, you can't really make an attractive male Corrin.
ToN
Well I need to start getting ready for the drive. Ack Drive back even
Yuu
>>127445 It's because the way they designed Corrin, the character looks kinda girly in terms of build and clothes in both incarnations. Robin kinda has a more male leaning with the clothes, although it's still a girl sized person in the clothes in both versions. I think that f-Robin looks cute in her big robe though.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Drive safe
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127447 One of the biggest things for me was that male Robin had some attractive faces and hairstyles that suited those faces well. Male Corrin's face and hair selection looks so weird, and his art makes him look so flat and dull no matter the hair and face.
Yuu
>>127449 That's one of the issues that canon male Robin has too, there are some options in the game that actually make him look like a male character, but the canon appearance they picked for him is small and girly.
Female Robin works better for the story anyway. If you play female Robin and marry Chrom, she actually has a place in the story that makes sense. Male Robin is just some guy that Chrom finds in a field that bones his daughter from the future.
AnnoKirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127450 That's true, too. I think they could work on their customizable characters a little bit more.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
man the 4th round is always so exciting and tense 3v3 just 5 mins to score and sudden death and 3-2 fin-switzerland
Yuu
>>127452 I think Robin was fairly well done. Corrin was a bit too naive and generic and nice, but I suppose there are some non-customizable lords that are like that too.
ToN
Dialog options when
Yuu
I don't want dialog options unless nintendo gets some better localization subcontractors. Combine the current localization team with dialog options and you'll have a complete disaster.
ToN
I need my [x] RAINBOOOOOOOOW option
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
I feel like the west is getting better at localization. Nioh, P5, and FF15 all had really good translations.
ToN
How is desu 2 br going mister kirara
i know it isnt
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
i am fourth day or something
Yuu
>>127458 I think Nintendo makes poor decisions when it comes to translations. I think translation as a whole is in a much better place than translation for Nintendo games is.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
I guess that's true. Nintendo fails pretty hard across the board when it comes to stuff outside of the US these days. Not fail in a business sense (clarifying for those nitpickers here) though.
Koi-
>tfw you are doing math and making charts to defeat the waifu menace. This is rough.
Yuu
Part of the problem is that Nintendo Japan is a bit more mature than NoA. NoA seems to be trying to cling on to the idea that they are a family-friendly company for kids. Their audience grew up though. Kids these days just play retarded apps on their smartphones.
Anno
Nintendo's in-house localization team is garbage. At least for North America. It doesn't matter much for kiddy stuff like Pokemon or games like Mario which don't really have a lot of localization work to go for them anyway. But stuff like Fire Emblem loses hard when you try -when they use their in house localizing.
The localized text in Breath of the Wild feels kind of clunky at times too. I've talked about how the English voice lines are kind of bad, but all the text is kind of clunky. They also take heavy liberties with some of the translations. Some of them work really well, like how the other species have certain phrases that derive from their cultures, but others just feel like they're over-simplifying the text.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127464 Even if they were aiming for the demographic they used to and not the people that grew up, trying to be family friendly is pretty ridiculous. Kids these days all play gorey murder games and see gorey murder on TV every day.
Arisu
You can say that about most things though. They're trying to appeal to the parents of said kids but most parents just buy the kid whatever they want
ToN
>>127460 of the original game right? still farther than I thought
The characters look CGI. The background looks like a mix between drawings and CGI.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
It kind of looks like it to me.
Anno
cgi has gone too far it must be stopped
Anno
I don't think the characters look CGI at all. The artstyle has a particular simplicity to the characters though. The backgrounds are probably the same blend of CGI and real art that most series use nowadays.
sk
Actually CGI must be improved We can't stop time, but we can speed it up
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
We can destroy time too
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Google says that the anime is done in 3DCGI.
Anno
dropped
TN !PcAPtAiNJosk
Well that tweet turned out differently than intended But that works, I'm going to bed
>The Democratic Republic of Congo is extremely rich in natural resources, but is politically unstable, has a lack of infrastructure, deep rooted corruption, and centuries of both commercial and colonial extraction and exploitation with little holistic development curious line from wiki
Yuu
Ebola may just be something that happens form time to time. I think it is a bit too lethal to be able to spread extensively. Although the possibility that survivors may carry it for a long time is a bit worrisome.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Apparently survivors can just spontaneously get it again since it sticks with you for so long. Spooky stuff.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Ebola simply kills too fast to spread wide
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127510 so not only does it nearly kill you but it turns you potentionally into a walking EBOLA BOMB
The possibility that survivors may be able to transmit it through body fluids for quite an extended period of time is troublesome.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
I read somewhere that survivors don't carry it in their blood or anything. Back when the epidemic was going down, a lot of articles said it stays in semen and newly produced semen as well as in the liquids in your eyes. And I think saliva.
AnnoYuu
>>127514 Yeah, the troublesome part is that it seems that survivors may be able to transmit it through semen.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>ebola becomes an STD
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Pretty spooky stuff.
That reminds me, I haven't heard anything about Zika in a long time.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
EBOLAIDS IS REAL
Yuu
Saliva is bad too, but diseases that can be transmitted through saliva are still fairly rarely transmitted through it. Saliva is not a very good medium through which for disease to be transmitted. Semen is, though.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
umm wut?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
one cough and you spread a good amount of space around you with your saliva drops
Yuu
>>127521 Did you read my post? ? ? I said that saliva is not a good transmission vector for disease.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127522 Consider how many people are exposed to your cold when you cough and how many of those get your cold from it, though.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Indeed especially sincd you carry cold viruses for weeks on after you've recovered from it
Yuu
What he's talking about is airborne transmission, anyway. That's different than transmission through saliva. Ebola isn't something that is capable of airborne translation with someone.
Saliva transmission in the sense that ebola is translated means in the context of swapping saliva through stuff like kissing.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Yeah.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127526 ebola doesn't really survive long outside of a host, which is why it doesn't survive in saliva droplets like that I mean airborne is just the virus being able to survive good amount of time outside of a host
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
hmm 5 hours of usb tether with no disconnections FUCK YOU LG seriously never get an LG phone
Still to kill it just a few weeks before i was going to come out of Early Access? What kind of a business move is that
also still better numbers than evolve lol
Anno
it had around 2000 players the months before being shutdown
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127539 and it was just about to be launched fully like you pour all the ingredients on a cake decorate it and place the candles on it but then when you are just about to lit the candles and summon the birthday boy you toss it out of a window
does it make sence?
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127539 let's be fair here it had around 2000 players almost every month since being released
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Evolve: all-time peak 51099 players
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127541 I never had to wait for a game more than aybe a minute or two >>127542 yeah but pull the numbers before it became free
Anno
>>127541 i don't think i said anything contradictory
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127543 around nosgoth's pretty much they went down a lot before it went free, just like what was happening with nosgoth
But the point is the Evovle team atleast kept with it they kept thinking how to make it profitable Square went "Okay, this would be complete product ready to launch and make some money aside from fee to pay economy... Time to kill it"
It had free weekends, and you could at special offers get it for few dimes but it was never free
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
nosgoth got pretty bad reviews squeenix says it didn't appeal to the broad audience they wanted from it
getting rid of it was the smart move, it wasn't profitable
Anno
i literally installed it and played it for a month myself
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127551 No it was complete waste of resources for them
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
It's called cutting your losses.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
They just thought it was going to be a big thing that could tap into the "fee to pay" market and make them the IT PRINTS MONEY
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
And they found out it wasn't, so they canned it.
Early access isn't a guarantee that the game will be completed. If anything, it's the fault of people who bought the early access, that this happened.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Which is why I say square is a shit company not to mention it doesn't even know how to final fantasy aside I hear the boys road trip one was good
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Also, Squeenix refunded a lot of stuff to people who spent money in Nosgoth. I think they handled it very professionally.
>>127559 It was definitely free. You could get it for free and then they had these access chests that you could buy that gave you bonuses and stuff, but you could play without buying them.
Anno
i don't see any information about nosgoth not being free
I still say plugging the life support of a product just before launch is a bad business move.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
I dunno. It probably saved them a lot of money.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
They didn't even have good economy yet built there just unlockable moves and characters and skins, but of just basically "look how good i have gotten" they hadn't yet implemented "hat economy" >>127563 Maybe or maybe it would've kicked off into moderate success and got them back to black
Anno
probably saved some pr points by not realeasing a shit game
>>127564 And maybe the sky would have fallen! Clearly they didn't think that was a likely possibility, and judging by the bad reviews the game got, >>127565 is also important to think about. By fully releasing it, you have to stand behind it for a while. You can kill it easily without consequence during EA.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Throw those bad reviewas at me It pretty much ust got average, but then again anything that is not IGN 10/10 is bad...
Anno
their unlock system was pretty bad
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I dunno I unlocked everything I wanted to use in maybe 10 hours and rest was just spend on useless shit
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
i hear you call my name and it feels like.... homu
Anno
it doesn't show up on steam so i can't see how much hours i was in
but it had like 5 classes per team? and you only had 2 unlocked from the start and unlocking the rest was a massive pain after that you have to unlock the skills you want as well and then you have a gatcha for skills that have random modifiers as well
31 hours recorded on steam, I had unlocked every class and the initial 4 per team had all skills unlocked on both teams
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Looking at the reviews on the first page of google, they all generally say it's an okay distraction, but say it has terrible problems with balance, repetitiveness, matchmaking difficulty, technical issues including CtDs Also there are a lot of complaints that the lore is wrong
>>127577 If you have ten repetitive games, but one is doing better than the others, there's probably a reason for that, right? Other multiplayer games were considered to be better by the reviewers, apparently
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
But there still was nothing funnier than that one open air map and flying around and air dropping noobs into death
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127575 I don't know a single multiplayer vs game that isn't repetive.
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
"repetitive" is not a binary thing some games feel really repetitive some feel fresher
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
A few reviews say it just uses the League of Legends model wholesale too
It's not wrong that you really liked the game but I think it's pretty easy to see why they didn't consider it successful
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
What even is that?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Well it is the first multiplayer game I got into since CS 1.6 >>127579 I never said it was successful I simply said it was a fucking dumb move in my opinion to kill it just when i was actually ready see the cake comparison
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Why was it a dumb move for them to cancel the game and cut their losses when they predicted that it would be a failure?
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127582 Because of simple thing few people get into early access titles
Anno
i dunno some of the most popular games on steam are probably EA right now
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Yes and for every successful EA title there are 10k that aren't compare it to the mess that is or was? the greenlight
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127583 Do you have some numbers to back that up?
Anno
>>127585 yeah and nosgoth is one of the non successful ones
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
if >>127584 is true, then it being EA shouldn't have affected nosgoth's ability to be successful
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127587 yes but the thing why people avoided EA was because they had seen its failures seen how companies ask for money for titles that never get out of EA if you actually then got out of EA congrats now maybe you can brag about it
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
it feels like you just really like nosgoth and aren't willing to accept that other people didn't
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127590 Or maybe I also followed sales figures of EA games during EA and post launch
YuuAnno
there are 3 EA games in the top 10 played
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Your opinion is they cut off their losses and avoided launching and that most likely was the executive decision in the board meeting about the title but my opinion, is that they were cowards and didn't actually take a risk
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
That's really silly. You're being really silly right now.
Anno
you know what you're right who can ever compare to your financial prowess you should probably be in charge of everything
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127596 Good that you embrace the true wisdom spread the word TN for King of the World >>127595 Maybe But neither of us actually have the numbers for how much money nosgoth cost or how much revenue it provided But anyhow, can you say that launching a title out of beta, never increases its popularity?
I don't have the numbers, but I can say without a doubt that Squeenix cut it because they did not foresee it being successful after they considered the potential costs and profits of it. >>127600 What's your point? The fact that I almost flipped a car by taking a turn too quickly like an idiot and the fact that I'm a published academic author aren't related.
and they thought that game that proved to bea huge success, wouldn't be a huge success
Anno
clearly the point is that they were wrong in the past and thus can never be right
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127599 Now, I am saying that squeenix might not always ake the best business decisions
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
TN you'd better double down on this argument let's get some money in the game
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
everyone send 0.5 bitcoin to this address fgsfdsfgsfdsfgsfdsfgsfdsfgsfdsfgsfds it's controlled by a well respected arbitrator i met in cambodia
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127604 At the time of FF13's release, it was the fastest selling FF game in history. Maybe it was a good business decision.
Anno
now that i think about it nosgoth is kinda a strange game to make for square like did anyone even play it in japan
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127607 Because of hype >>127608 No idea Europe was by far the most populated server
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127609 Well, I'll admit that I haven't played FF13, but I can see that it has pretty good reviews. All signs point to it being a commercial success.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Seriously had they killed it a month after launch I would just lament that it had no fans but that they killed it before launch just makes me think of them as cowards
Anno
ff13 can't be a bad game look at all the sequels and spin offs
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127611 it's harder to kill it after release than it is before
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
and looks much worse
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Atleast they didn't pussy out
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>Oh man, I changed my mind, I'm not going to jump in front of a train >Wtf man?? fuckin coward
Come to think of it I've never really understood F to play business model Why would you spend money on some cosmetics and shit?
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Because people like cosmetics and don't feel bad about giving money to a game that they play for free oftentimes.
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
>>127622 don't shoot me all i have to defend myself is fifteen melee weapons, eight bows, seven shields, and some enchanted boots
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127624 Well more to the point of, how did it ever become a thing is it Hat Fortress?
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Team Fortress used to cost money. It was $20 for a very long time.
F2P games began with Nexon and Maplestory and I think Runescape came out around the same time.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Well final words, nosgoth was a decent game with good potentional, that fell pray to the trend of big companies trying to dig nto the gold vein that was Free/Free to Play
Anno
>>127627 was it actually 20? didn't it come as part of the orange box pack
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127627 Runescape wasn't really FtP, it was either restricted free mode or more content membermode
Yuu
It was league of legends that kind of convinced people of the free to play model, wasn't it?
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127629 You could get it with Orange Box or you could buy it separately for $20 on Steam.
>>127631 I think LoL became popular around the time there was a big transition to the F2P model, but it definitely didn't lead it.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
>>127631 oh and dota2 since it only has cosmetics that cost money
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
and i am gonna see that youuu don't go faaarr
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I actually wonder how many "Nosgoths" there are out there titles with somewhat big publishing company behind them, that just never made it out because the business model didn't work out as they hoped.
Anno
>>127632 well what do you mean by lead it probably did play a big role in inspiring others due to it's success
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I think F2P came more on the mobile platform
Anno
EA had an EA moba that they canned
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127637 Definitely wrong. >>127636 When I say lead, I mean the ones that were the first really big players using that model. Games like EverQuest, for example.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
yeah true mobile is the high profile but they didn't start it they profited it from most
Anno
>>127639 who lead it then? oh eq hmm wasn't their model more like runescape?
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Everquest was originally subscription but they changed it to F2P around like 2008 if I remember correctly.
In the early 2000s, almost every MMO in Korea was F2P, too.
Anno
i remember it being subscription but i'm not sure if the free version was limited in some ways
AnnoAnno
who are all these people playing garrys mod
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
I do wonder would've nosgoth fared better if it was its standalone game with its own lore and not loosely based on LoK? But then again, without the "hey lok game" it prolly never would've been noticed at all
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127645 >30k people playing Garry's Mod >53k 24-hour peak What in the world
There's no point in buying what you can get for free.
Anno
>>127661 aren't you planing to spend money to not gatcha
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
A good kind of F2P is where you can technically unlock everything by just effort and skill and where you can shortcut that by using money, however the unlockables shouldn't be game breaking or giving you way too many advantages. And also, when you use money you should always know what you get. The worst kind is "unlock by buying currency that you can use to roll the dice to MAYBE get what you want"
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Apparently there was an emergency at the Hanford Nuclear Waste Site in Washington state last week when a 586sq // a tunnel at the 586sq mile site collapsed and allowed airborne waste to escape. But nobody really reported on it.
TN !PcAPtAiNJo
Yeah I heard a tunnel collapsed >>127664 What kind of a storage facility is it, if the leak /the waste can leak just like that?
Anno
wew
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Apparently for the last 5-10 years, whistleblowers there have been going public and telling people about how unsafe the site was but nobody listened.
It seems like the site hasn't been heavily updated since 1940s when it was used to store plutonium or something.
Welp time to see if I can do anything fun with my new phone >>127671 oh yeah prolly forgot to mention about the boat thing, came to ind since I got a free passed down phone recently, that I don't actually own the boat.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
buddies
Anno
>How do you live? >We don't Truth.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
oh wtf where's blue julia just reached more points than tharja we in it now
WE DON'T WANT TO BE WINNING NOW BECAUSE WINNING IS HARD TO DO NOW.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
I KNOW SOMEONE WENT HARD
Koi-
MANY PEOPLE DID. I HAD TO TALK TO SOMEONE WITH LIKE 1K FOLLOWERS AND A REALLY COOL ELDIGAN TO CHILL OUT SO WE CAN WIN.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
we can do it
Koi-
(S)HE'S DOWN WITH IT THOUGH SO IT MIGHT JUST HAPPEN
Koi-
>I have to tell all these people to save their flags up
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
every time i enter the battles, i get your eldigan haha
Koi-
I get this badass Reinhardt it's so good.
Yuu
>>127705 Speaking of opinions, what do you think about that crazy vacation fish wanted? That's what I was reacting to her being a crazy huge ojou on.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127718 Oh, is that the thing you said made you think she was really bad with money?
Yuu
>>127719 Yeah. At fits first she wanted to go the Appalachians and I was like yeah that is pretty reasonable but then all the sudden she upgraded it to a trip to hawaii.
Anno
There's probably more fish around Hawaii.
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
i am going to break you down to tiny tiny parts
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127720 Oh, really? A trip to Hawaii seems really expensive.
>>127724 I'm sure she'll hear whatever I have to say about it haha She said she would pay for a trip to Hawaii, yeah.
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
hawaii? more like a trip to kawaii
Yuu
>>127725 She told me she mentioned it to you! When I was talking to her about it and she brought up I was like wow, that's expensive! He probably can't pay for that. Then she told me she'd pay for it. So I was like wow, he'd probably feel bad about you spending your money like that! So she said she'd have her dad pay for it.
It was a really terrifying ojou moment. I think she has me way outclassed in terms of ojou power. I tried to explain the value of money to normal people to her but I don't think she really took much away from the conversation.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
Well, it was certainly an interesting proposal. As fun as going to Hawaii sounds, though, I'm not sure if I can do something like that.
TN
Well it works
Yuu
I would feel bad about spending my own money on it. And going on someone else's dime too.
I guess I'm a stingy type though.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
It's certainly an interesting offer! I would definitely feel bad about someone paying for me to go on vacation like that. I would probably feel indebted.
TN
hmm more memory is useful to have around
Anno
Money aside, there is no downside to having more memory.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
If you have less memory, you might forget all the bad things that happened to you.
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
I don't want to forget.
Anno
>>127734 That's not happening for me any time soon.
Samurai !KW2DbpWwls
I want to be able to move certain memories to the RECYCLING BIN
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORUYuu
>>127731 That's about what I thought. I understand those feelings!
my memory was getting a little clogged up i repurposed some of it for better things
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127739 Yeah, so I dunno. It seems like a situation which will be a battle, so I'm putting it off. And I really don't know if I'm free during that time she wants to go to Hawaii anyway.
Yuu
>>127741 Is it a battle? I got the impression that you're the decision maker.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127742 If I tell her no seriously, I think she'll listen, but she'll still be upset about it. It's a battle because I have to find a way to make sure that nobody is super unhappy. If I just outright say no, I'll feel bad because my decision made her sad.
Talesof !NuKeSlvmWE
I keep wasting all my free time trying to decide what to do with it
Yuu
>>127743 I would weasel out of it too. And here's a secreT: I hate saltwater fish tanks and wouldn't allow them in my home.
Maria
>>127744 I know that feeling The trick is to just do it Just fucking do it JUST DO IT
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>127745 I'm not trying to weasel out of it necessarily. I just want to find a solution that will make sure none of us have to suffer. But doing that right now is kind of a pain, so I'm putting it off until I can approach it with the seriousness that I think it needs to be approached with since it seems important to her.
I'm not big on fish tanks. I really don't want one.
Yuu
My mom has saltwater fish tanks and I have occasionally been called on to help with them. The water is smelly, everything you have to lift is heavy, and water gets everywhere and you get wet. Dealing with them offends my delicate sensibilities in so many ways.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
They seem like a lot of trouble. Plus they use a lot of electricity and they're kind of loud.
Yuu
But I totally support her having one because it's not my problem~
ive been saving LWA until i could watch it in bulk which i've been doing today it's really making me happy
Arisu
Good starting point. hopefully by next week you reach the cliffhanger of this week.
Yuu
The TV series hasn't been as well recieved as the OVAs were but I think it's just as good.
Anno
I feel some stuff gets a little old, like Akko's perpetual inability to ride a broom. But they recovered well by making her get really good at [Redacted]. I like the overarching plot they've got going on though.
Arisu
It's basically what i've been watching. but yeah it's like stretching the idea of the OVA and season 1 was super slow.
>>128063 ToN! you always post questionable things. >>128064 My school only had like 10 computers for the whole student body, from kindergarten to HS. obviously only the older people used them but still.
>>128078 In primary and middle school we had a big room with like 20 computers Then in HS everyone got laptops anyway
Arisu
I can imagine that. now every kid has a laptop as well. they only use them to play and post dumb stuff on fb.
Maria
>>128083 fuck handwriting shit though, I'm glad I never had to handwrite my homework
Pink Autism
We used to have a room full of Apple IIe
Arisu
>>128087 I had laptop all my college years and we had to handwrite every exam. in fact in economic class i didnt even had a calculator hahaha.
Arisu
Also, when I studied in a cram school for my college application test, the place had a projector in every classroom and i think someone stole one. they were really shitty kids.
Maria
>>128089 We have to handwrite exams, but never assignments We always get calculators though.
>>128097 they're pretty useless. but we still used them in every other law class. especially with younger professors. i imagine they're even more useful in STEM classes.
Please show your work, so explain why you choose what you choose!
Maria
>>128141 From a utillitarian stand point, I fail to understand how stealing Hitlers wallet will help anyone. Maybe you could say that it's about justice and punishing the guilty, but in the long run I don't think that really does anything productive. Actually since this is 1933, Hitler hasn't done anything wrong yet. So really you're stealing from an innocent man. And stealing is wrong.
So no, you are ethically obligated to not steal his wallet.
>>128149 >hitler was really really poor I fucking bet that this is a closed time loop story and stealing the wallet pisses off Hitler so much that it leads him to go on his holocaust later on
Pink Autism
>>128141 You aren't ethically obligated to do anything, really. I mean, it's not gonna affect anything, you just get money out of it. So really it's a question of "do you want to take this low risk?" and "are you a thief?" To which, I would say, fuck yeah. Then I can say I stole his wallet before he was a big bad monster.
Arisu
you know how bad the inflation in germany was on 1933? hitler was really really poor, probably. or had really little change.
>>128143 no the premise is that your act doesn't affect anything. it just makes him mad. i'd avoid if only because i am not a thief.
the worst thing is, you're not actually judging him, you are just stealing from a guy who might be a dick.
Pink Autism
>>128143 >Fucking Jews, stealing an honest man's wallet. Guess I gotta kill 'em all now... It says it doesn't affect it anyway.
Anno
>>128141 I agree with Notso, you're not ethically obligated to do anything here. On top of that, you can not judge someone for crimes they have not committed, even if in your timeline said person has committed those crimes. Hitler is not the big villain of WWII our history has made him out to be at this point in his timeline. So there is no ethical tie-in from "our" Hitler with this one.
I WOULD steal his wallet because it's expressed to be a perfect crime and Hitler was already kind of being an asshole by this time so I'd feel good anyway. But that's a different question.
Maria
>>128154 >this theft will not effect It's a trick question you see. It says "effect" not anything about affecting his rise to power. So for all we know, yes it could cause him to go full Hitler.
>>128162 Actually let's not open this can of worms
Anno
>>128162 It was and Hitler was terrible for facilitating it but Germany's position in WWII is far more complex and multi-faceted than just being some big evil for the good and noble Allied forces to kick the ass of.
Pink Autism
Effect as a verb: cause (something) to happen; bring about. "nature always effected a cure"
So ha, stealing it won't affect anything!
Maria
>>128170 Wait what in the fuck? I thought that an effect was just a noun This is fucking bullshit I hate the english language fuck this gay shit I'm gonna shitpost with the nips instead.
>>128169 Being a shithole doesn't excuse pulling a holocaust though
Anno
Hitler is most likely chancellor at this point, I don't have any obligation but I'm gonna o it anyway.
Pink Autism
>>128169 I like when people argue that Hitler totally didn't know about it.
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>128143 >Actually since this is 1933, Hitler hasn't done anything wrong yet. ????????????????????
Maria
>>128174 There are two possibilities Kirara One is that I'm a retard who forgot when Hitler got any power The other is that Hitler truly did nuffin wrong other than lose the war
>>128180 I don't think they thought it was against the world at the time At the start the average citizen probably thought they were just gonna invade poland and then a few years in they realised they were in over their heads Or the smart ones who didn't swallow the propaganda pill did at elast
Arisu
I just can't sympathize with the germans from that time period. they choose war against the world. chose*
>>128177 I think they wanted to get revenge in the allies from the beginning, but that might have been just a sentiment and not a real intention of jingoism.
Pink Autism
>>128174 That was the year Hitler boycotted Jewish business, so he was probably spreading his hatred, so yeah, he'd done SOMETHING.
Anno
>>128173 He absolutely did, and the fact that he spearheaded a campaign involving it is morally reprehensible By any rational narrative in our current history he is far from a good person. But that is a different frame of reference from the time period of 1933.
Pink Autism
>>128182 That's why I love when they try to argue it.
Yuu
>>128156 I'm curious about that second part too, so it's fine.
>>128190 So are you using this as a judge of character?
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
>>128177 hitler was in jail way before 1933 >>128181 he did a lot of shit before that too
Maria
>>128195 I forgot all about the putsch >commit literal treason >get a slap on the wrist Hitlers luk stat was fucking ridiculous
Yuu
>>128193 It's interesting to see how people process this question ethically.
Pink Autism
>>128197 It would be more interesting if you didn't know the odds until you made a decision, then knew the odds and got to refine your decision. Because there isn't really a question of ethical obligation, to me.
>>128195 I'm not as up on my Hitler history as I was a couple years ago.
Arisu
But he had killed lots of people and already was known as a fascist by then. in 1936 he was already in power.
Maria
Alright /moe/ did Chairman Mao do anything wrong? Was he malicious or just a negligent retard?
>>128208 It was for the good of china and chinese people :)
Pink Autism
Can you steal his money, buy glass bottles, then break them over his head?
Yuu
>>128199 Knowing what will happen is important to see how people process the ethics.
Arisu
Mao was one of the best Gjbus.
Maria
Did Zeon do anything wrong? Dropping the colony would have ended the OYW early and save millions of lives if they didn't hit Australia instead.
>>128217 Yeah exactly it looked cool so it's all good. Fuck Sydney
>>128218 Telling people they did something wrong is mean and rude please don't do it or you'll hurt their self esteem
Kirara☆ !Sh0sAiDORU
colony drop is really cool so it's fine
Anno
NOBODY did anything wrong
Pink Autism
>>128212 Hmm... I guess adding it on later does take some of what you get from it out.
Maria
Real talk, Squealer did nothing wrong. If the humans weren't wiped out, the queerats would never have true freedom and had no chance of negotiating on equal terms.
Yuu
>>128220 Knowing how people will behave when they know there's no consequences tells you a lot.
Pink Autism
>>128229 But knowing if they'd change their minds openly when they are aware of the lesser consequences also says something.