can't really fault 'em for it like sure they wouldn't be where they are without the corpos, but the corpos weren't doing charity either, they got their pound of flesh
are there ttrpgs you're like supposed to play seriously? like the game design as a whole is one built around the assumption the players, not just the characters, try to make the best choices they can on a mechanical level?
One where playing some scuffed character that's poorly statted for their role is very rare rather than, as it seems with dnd based on my exposure to it at least, kind of the norm? Like with DnD, the player mindset of "I'm just gonna make the best character I can" starts running up against some of the magic of the game because uh, everyone's a wizard?
But I mean this isn't entirely a balance issue. I mean it is in a broad sense, but "game balance" usually just means combat balance And at least that isn't strictly necessary Hell there's an argument to be made that, as long as the actual gameplay loop is designed with it in mind, having characters that just suck at combat but make up for it outside combat is superior to having everyone just be roughly equal in combat
Like given the right planning by the dev or DM, having one player be the "beefy hit things hard" guy and another be less useful in combat but able to navigate the non-combat parts of the game like, you know, lockpicking and talking to NPCs and whatnot, and maybe another that's kinda middle of the road in terms of combat, not particularly good at those kinda "rogue"ish things, but very well suited to the more cerebral challenges or very difficult obstacles the rest don't really have a good toolset for (you know, a mage)... that's actually good You don't want any of the players to feel utterly worthless in combat, obviously, but you do want to be meaningfully rewarded for making a character that sacrifices DPS in favor of less combat-focused but often important skills that help the group as a whole actually get to and be prepared for the combat in the first place
>>1155202 Yeah but having fun doesn't have to be an alternative to utilizing your knowledge of the game's mechanics Any co-op game only peters out in fun when the group gets cracked at the game because it's... well, it's premade, there isn't an actual person presenting the playspace and turning up the challenge or altering the situation to give the players the satisfaction of mastery
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
oh table top rpgs being the strongest isn't really the goal it's being social and having fun
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
i would be happy to just tank damage tbh but i would probably be a mage really though stealth might be a nice change
>>1155203 you're in luck, that's the optimal class archetype for that in DnD I'm pretty sure You wouldn't think so, because mages are supposed to be squishy, but from what I can tell they really just are better for that Oh, for stealth too, though it doesn't kick in until a few levels into the game
yeah in terms of RPG convention, the guy with the melee weapon has a lot of health, good HP, decent damage. The tank and aggro puller who gets up in the enemy's face The rogue is high damage, very low HP, glass cannon though the real benefit is their ability to aid in resource gathering and covert stuff, pre-combat prepping more than anything And the mage is the BIG DAMAGE SPIKE lad, often constrained with some sort of resource to avoid spam and utterly trivializing the others, but the mage has no meaningful defense or HP pool and relies on the guy with the big sword to absorb damage
That's like, the general gist of how these archetypes work in theory
Certainly it's well and good to experiment with that base formula to create something a little different and interesting, but making the BIG DAMAGE SPIKE lad also be the guy who's the best at recon, resource gathering, damage absorption, and really... like, everything else that's a game designed with the expectation players deliberately play in a way they know is, mechanically speaking, 'wrong'
There's nothing wrong with playing a scuffed character to have some extra fun or just as a challenge, but I do think it's just bad game design when the players need to do that in order to have a good time
It's like the stealth archer in skyrim If you're playing something other than a stealth archer, you're doing so because the stealth archer may be the best choice, but you've decided to play poorly for fun
Like especially with an inherently group-based game like ttrpgs, there's good reason to have each character archetype make sacrifices in some areas for better performance in other areas, it helps define them as characters and, combined with other characters who made a different sacrifice:performance choice, a group.
With single player games, there's something to be said for the philosophy of not punishing the player for their choices by locking them out of content, trying to make any character choice viable and able to clear whatever is presented (even if I don't entirely agree with the idea because it ultimately makes those choices less meaningful) but that's kinda detrimental for a group-based game Ideally you want each player to at least have one thing where they're the one in the group that handles that sort of shit, not because the rest of the group lets them have the spotlight, but because the character they made and are playing is... the one that's actually good at that
My experience with the game is obviously very limited, but to pull the obvious example from my mind
In the early stages of Critical Role season 2, Nott was, obviously, the one handling sneaky beaky shit. She's the rogue, she's good at sneaking, that's her thing, she's a shifty thieving gremlin. And that's cool, the rest of the party aren't really good at that stuff, so she handles it (with varying success, but that's the fun, of course) But after a while, Jester gets access to a spell that uh... makes everyone really fucking good at stealth. Now the cleric is the one handling sneak, and she's handling it for the whole party as a group, not as an additional sneaker. That's just not something Nott has as her thing anymore at that point, though granted the spell does burn a spell slot so there is some restriction to it.
That's not a criticism of Laura, the one playing Jester, obviously you take stuff that doesn't just aid yourself but the whole party when you're presented with the option. But the cleric, an outright necessary "we are utterly fucked if we don't have someone who can do this" type of class in any game where dying is a realistic possibility, being given the tools to remove another class' whole thing from what makes their character special is just... it seems like a bad choice to me Jester is also... the strongest character in the party? Like her STR score I mean, I think it's higher than Yasha's? And Yasha is uh... the barbarian Again this is the cleric And unlike the barbarian, she's got heavy armor for defense. And a shield for more defense. And while in a lot of other games the healer is maybe tanky enough to live through their healing role, she's actually also a very competent damage dealer in combat
Like it becomes apparent very quickly that if you want to play a cleric and not hog the spotlight way too much, you kinda gotta just decide to pull back as the player even when your character is probably one of the more suited to something.
Yeah, it doesn't feel like it should be that way, right?
Oh and I guess also, though this is something I doubt ever actually comes up in the game as it is played, there are monsters and stuff that are just... immune to non-magical damage Which doesn't seem entirely that bad if you're thinking of it like maybe some regular RPG, "oh the player might encounter them and come back when they've got a magical weapon or something", but this is a group game The party does have magical damage, whether they've got magical weapons or not: all the casters So as the DM, you gotta make the choice in advance Do you have the players encounter this enemy before the non-casters have magical weapons, basically just looking at them and shrugging, "Guess you're doing nothing for the next 30-60 minutes, brother" Or do you make sure they have magical weapons first, making the "immune to non-magical damage" part... not mean anything?
Like what's the point of that? It's a type of enemy you either don't present until the party as a whole can ignore their immunity, or you tell some members of the party to go fuck themselves
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
like magic damage yes. ut not physical
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It's not even that immunity is bad in and of itself, it's just that it's an immunity type that is either your primary damage or a type of damage you aren't able to do. Because overall a weapon that does magical damage is just like, a better version of that weapon If you're maining magical damage, it's almost certainly because you don't have any magical damage to do in the first place
DnD is obviously fun, it wouldn't be as popular as it is otherwise, but it certainly seems like that fun is reliant on the players checking themselves or leaning into some manner of rebellion against the mechanics as they're presented Cause it's not fun to be "the one who does everything in the group", you're there to play with your friends, so you find some way to just kneecap your character to facilitate.
While very, very small in scale, a really blunt manifestation of this is Sam in CR season 1 just deciding, as the player, to never make use of the whole "reroll a crit fail" thing. Just the player deciding "naw, my character just doesn't do this really powerful thing they can do" because it's less fun to make use of that mechanic
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>>1155213 yo I had a dream about pin ball machines last night it was weird they took coins but also some sort of pastic fisher price key card lookin neo geo chip card
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
theres always gonna be imba
moon
sam can i use you as a reference on my resume can you lie and say somethin cool about me
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maybe one wouldn't have to lie?
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
aw man i'm not good at lying
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
wow i walked right into that one
Rei !p8eYCadcMo
>>1155207 In America you could depending on some shit I dont remember anymore. I dunno Australian tax law, maybe if you had gone into that you would know (and also make more money). My guess is yes but ask your accountant.
Rei !p8eYCadcMo
>>1155212 obviously you fucking dont run them against a mixed party before people have magic weapons unless you're running a mix of monsters, some immune to non-magic damage some not.
dunno how it's like in 5e but in 3.5 its pretty common at lower levels to encounter enemies with like DR5/magic which means aj *any successful attack deals 5 less damage unless done with a magic weapon
man imagine trying to advertise your racket to bring in new workers and thinking "20-80 CENTS PER HOUR" "$0.50 for 1-2 hours, depending on service load" and thinking yeah that seems like an attractive offer
anime math got a popular mechanics feat. 7 years later weird world
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like what I don't get is how on older calqultors have the right maths and there are some videos out there that show a comparison between cell phone and old calq and it's not the same answers so how how does AI/LLM know how to crunch this I woder wonder* what the comparison there is?
>>1155253 Oh really cool fame! I guess sometimes it take the future so that some past tense can make sence.
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
writing a good calculator is really difficult due to all the special cases
I don't know if I'm right so let me know how/if I'm wrong. the answer I'm going with is there are two permutations a (superpermutation) if you will. the least being 93,884,313,611 and the most amount being 93,924,230,411 ways.
So I'm sure the writers of Umamusume put a lot of thought into the continuity of their story and worldbuilding but why uh Why do they do an idol dance performance at the end of every race? What's the goal here? Does it make them better runners somehow?
there are lots of hotels I would stay at a t and a r andhave stayed at a m I don't know about a gyatt though isn't that someone with a big but or something like that? idk
Dude I'll just come out and say it The uma musume are cute as heck but the sim management style gameplay isn't thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast much fun. Maybe I'll get into it more
But there's my HOT TAKE.
Marsh shitposting on the go via telephone
Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go click on the same tree 10,000 times in osrs. See, that's real gameplay
Ok, im@tts, when you get here to write "/moe/" and post an image you stole from twitter - tell Jan that stackable clue scrolls are now in OSRS and then report back and tell me if he reckon that's pog and a good quality of life change or just another hopeless drift towards easyscape.
the first time i've heard of NL streaner, I've though he is Dutch. Secretly I wanted to be proud of his Dutchness. Dutch are gorgeous ngl. superior norde
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
so many new chatters
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nordealot
0lD/fg/
armpitshot
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the analytics of horse gacha are crazy, he's gonna have no choice but to become a horse girl streamer
0lD/fg/
he had no choice but to buy delicious apple juice
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i'm weak
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
soo true
0lD/fg/
they keepin em in cells cuz they r still animalz
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i need to move to jp. create ridiculous weeb gamu. with rich meta lore n eastern eggs somethin deep. but simple on surface.
0lD/fg/
hire me
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
yes let's delve into the lore together
0lD/fg/
cells gotta be more brutal. for dramatic effect. animal farm. uk style.
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i ffeel like watching F1 or Nascar
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very important question will this game & he, allow trans horses to participate?
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I think game developers gotta adress gender options
0lD/fg/
without such custom horses this game isn't worth a dime
> A girl.... 👩AND a racer? 🎮Whoa mama!😮😮 Hummina hummina hummina bazooooooooing😙! eyes pop out 😮😮😮😉AROOOOOOOOGA! jaw drops tongue rolls out 😱😱😱WOOF WOOF🐶🐶 tongue bursts out of the outh uncontrollably leaking face and everything in reach😛😛😛😛😛 WURBLWUBRLBWURblrwu ,🤪😜😜🤪tiny cupid shoots an arrow through heart :cupid: Ahhhhhhhhhhh me lady... heart in the shape of a heart starts beating so hard you can see it through shirt😍😍😍 ba-bum b inhales from the gas tank ⛽⛽⛽honka honka honka
>>1155517 Anyway, the first step to taking your life more seriously is to get addicted to a Japanese mobile gambling game about anthropomorphic horse girls.
I think you gotta get a lot out of it to make it justify going without the basics of sustaining your own life for a day and a half I mean, I do that occasionally just cause I'm like that I guess, but my sense of hunger is not like most people from what I can tell
>>1155544 nah best thing you can do with starving yourself is resetting your sleep cycle
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well if you stay up for 36 hours you are reseting your sleep cycle in some ways but you can eat in that time >>1155551 mostly if you adjust your sleep cycle that not hunger depping though it would have to be both at that point
Well starving and then eating you can fall asleep quick and due to "eating and sleeping" the ancient instincts are satisfied and it somewhat resets your "go sleep here" at that hour and your "wake up time" when you wake up proper so better sleep long and if you do wake up, just roll over and continue
good for jet lag or post night shifts
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ikd most times if you don't sleep for a longer period of time then it's like whenyou do sleep you get less slepp sleep*
JPEG artifacts are distortions that occur in images saved in the JPEG format due to lossy compression, which discards some data to reduce file size. Common types of artifacts include blockiness, mosquito noise, and color degradation, which can negatively affect image quality.
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ya like if a hard drives sectors are mashed up I remember what lossy comp is. where it like losses pixles videos can do this
>>1155583 sammy do you believe that the people who would just outright post questionable waifus wouldn't do that anyhow regardless of whatever it is? or whatever is happening in the world? or if nothing is happening at all?
I Just found out that NetHack exists in the Deus Ex universe.
Rei !p8eYCadcMo
got a question for you Sam why does doushio frequently replace the filenames of uploaded images with a probably not random number and I dont mean the Unix timestamp I mean in the parentheses next to resolution
Marsh shitposting on the go via telephone
I was researching case law for this boring buisness regulation stuff but I found this one matter that gets kind of wild about a Chinese prostitute and tax evasion
>>1155637 You can operate a brothel in the state of Victoria but you need a licence and to get a licence under the sex work act to run a buisness you need to provide records of your finances And this woman from China who told the tax office she made $17,000 a year while owning two multi-million dollar properties in Melbourne was trying to buy a brothel she used to work at but was refused the licence because of all these discrepancies
Li v the Victorian buisness administration board, for further reading.
idk man the browser is responsible for telling the doushio server what the filename of the file is maybe if its just default.jpg the browser assigns it a random id or something
what, updating the drivers? yeah I just opened the driver manager and selected the newest one
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prior to the industrial revolution, did they ride umamusume into war and stuff?
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oh wait you probably mean linking the account Yeah it's p easy, you just go into the menus and find data link, make a password for your profile, and then put the trainer ID and the password in on the title screen of the device you wanna add in paid carrots are device-specific for whatever reason, so to use them you gotta do it through the device you bought them, but otherwise you're gucci
!ReneWy59x.
my uma won't run on my pc maybe because of my cpu architecture
Holy shit she just RUBBERBANDED She was in like 9th and hit the ult, making it seem like the rest of the musumes just... stopped, she flew through them so fast wasn't even CLOSE
Silence Suzuka is pretty hype too Horse gacha too good
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She really is a feast or famine musume though If you win, you win by a lot, otherwise you get utterly crushed
!ReneWy59x.
I gotta win this race man
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just ignore guts and you'll win generally not that meaningful a stat, seems like I guess if you're using an end chaser it might be useful to eek out a win now and then, but everyone else will be better off just being faster
!ReneWy59x.
actually I just gotta place 3rd thank god she ulted at the last minute pace was the way
I guess there was no front runner in the race, but the other pacers were all so far behind I was worried I accidentally set her to front running but no, she's JUST THAT GOOD
I enjoyed playing NH on android (still linux right?) Seems like DeusEx does have IRC refferences as well. Sometimes I think IRC is better then dooushio. A Time spent on IRC is time wellspent. unlike this gacha liveboard.
>>1155705 Ogiru Cap is hype moments and aura >>1155671 and >>1155672 are both also real good, though Silence Suzuha basically just keeps her lead, then ults to leave everyone in the dust If she's not in the lead by the time the ult is gonna pop, you lost though Cause it only pops if she's in the lead
Ogiru Cap is kinda the opposite, it won't trigger if she's in the front, but as long as she's close by the front at the 200m mark, it'll go off and she goes supersaiyan for insane speed, so most her wins are either because the other horses are awful, or she wins by a hair
>>1155666 nice get! just like WINE ! isn't it ? just pay devs who had courage to publish native linux/bsd ports. or ask for port in official support forum.
Gold ship is also pretty hype cause she's an end chaser, so she hangs back the whole time and then starts rising through the ranks towards the end But I didn't really like running her, I guess cause stamina is too important for her and a pain to level with the ones in the front, sure you need stamina, but just cranking speed and power so they rev up real fast is usually good enough Ogiru Cap in particular doesn't really need that much stam, she just has to stick close to the leader by the end and she's probably gonna win, just needs the speed to make that ult actually sing Hell, guts is probably a good stat for her, though I haven't focused it, just because of how close finishes tend to be when she puts the pedal to the floor right at the very end like that
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Taiki's fun though Just a very fun musume
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the only musume that I knew is a blue haired octupus girl! in white outfit
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>Gold ship is also pretty hype cause she's an end chaser, so she hangs back the whole time and then starts rising through the ranks towards the end anime.mov ! your opinion on chasers?
!ReneWy59x.
>>1155717 there are plenty of musumes outside >>1155718 good show for a while would rather just drink pre-mix though
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I'm eating red beans with tomatos & champignions all day, with some bread
i actually prefer wired mice to wireless full stop because once in a while during heated overwatch sessions i eject the mouse at a random 360 angle and if it doesnt have a tether it flies into the air
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
I am a free agent i need to prioritize before i waste rhe rest of this summer
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
NOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOO
Mahou Shoujo Marsh-chan
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Rei !p8eYCadcMo
did you died?
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
bad things happened i fixed them they're good now'
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
gonna smoke some weeeeeeeeeeed
Mahou Shoujo Marsh-chan
epic dankness
Samu /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
healthiest coping mechanism for short term trauma
!ReneWy59x.
>>1155793 he's an osrs streamer? I just know him from squeex
you know, they've depicted the titan transformations as, you know, pretty violent, but I think this is the first time I't s actually been an explosion Like, with force and stuff, rather than just noise Sure it's cause it's the REALLY big guy, but he's appeared before without there being an explosion, and none of the others have been accompanied by actual explosions
>>1155812 At least it's actually big enough to form a mushroom cloud It's most blatant in like, Fallout 3, but there's a lot of mushroom clouds in media that are just... too small to actually be mushroom clouds
I mean it is kinda bad But bad anime can still be fun
And the badness is mostly down to how it's 3 seasons in now and we don't even know what the antagonists want at all And I'm not super happy about the bald training commander turning out to be the one who sabotaged Eren's gear in the first bit, I genuinely just assumed it was Mikasa who did that and that worked a lot better honestly
One thing that's not exactly like, "bad" but still kinda takes you out of it is like
this city was destroyed a little over 5 years ago until that moment, it was completely populated, not some sort of refugee camp or barely maintained place, but a genuine high population city with all the bells and whistles
Yet somehow, 5 years and change later, it's fucking covered in trees Trees don't grow that fast there are trees growing out from the gaps in cobblestones and stuff, the one in the center there isn't even growing out of a busted part of the building, hell there shouldn't even be soil there for it to grow in to begin with, it's hanging onto mortar and bricks for dear life ...actually wait I think that's just a pole, but still, there's way too many trees and they're way too big for only 5 years to have passed, this is like 10-15 years worth of overgrowth
>>1155829 Well maybe in the 5 years there was enough growth to sustane it too/for 10-15 years after all. All complications aside, what would be the point of the progresstion if there was no initail start to begin with. Plants need to grow and can't without light this much is know.
Maybe I will become a Silence Suzuha stan Just seeing her fly into the front and stay there all the way until the finish line is a beautiful thing to watch Oguri is hype too, but it's not quite the same
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I'll need to train up some other front runners to feed her skills and stuff though
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Unfortunately I don't really have many musumes who excel at front running And I gotta do a vodka career too
It's kinda just strange to write it like it is The whole "Orc City" thing is whatever, but "said the elvish king" is just weird The perspective is surely one who knows his name
my trainer is coming out to spend the day with me and provide support free of charge. just doing it to be a bro and because he knows this is something we've been working towards. That's the real homie. Giving up his whole sunday for one of his clients