>>1082130 yes well technically a reflex sight, does the same thing its a common setup, they even sell them as a combo https://www.trijicon.com/products/product-family/trijicon-acog-rmr-combo
>>1082157 Are you off your meds again? I remember you from years ago schizoing out about kori, a person who has never posted here and you got banned for being obnoxious
I looked up "witcher 3" on twitch and the name was familiar googled it and saw the twitchcon stuff and then remembered that I'm not ashamed to admit knowing people from seeing their stuff but I genuinely haven't seen hers
it also doesn't really do sanpaku, seemingly Which is another shame, because I like sanpaku Though that MIGHT just be it not having a lot of variety for Koume's eyes in particular, so it considers her large pupils as kind of an inherent part of her?
It is actually overall very good at eyes though, at least when the image is just the face Not as good at them when it's not though, but that's likely because eyes tend to be less beautiful in images that contain more than that It's not like it knows what Good Eyes look like or anything, it just knows they tend to look a certain way (generally better) when they're a major part of the image And there is no tag for the quality of the eyes in a drawing
After fairly extensive testing, it does appear that Euler A results in far more frequent acceptable hands It's still generally bad at them, but it's not ALWAYS bad
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
AIs definitely good at eyes AI sees any circle anywhere: "is this an eye?"
for reasons I don't pretend to understand, the quality is often like, better if it's lewd I guess there's just a higher bar for being rated as "good" when it's lewd? I mean I am using some prompt combos that kinda tell it to spit out Good Quality Images, so maybe
>>1082223 Based on an initial test of 5 images, it seems to try doing both Like it is nude, but it has the remnants of the clothes, basically, just not covering the areas it understands as being expected from a nude image Basically they fade out Which I guess is an interesting type of image, really
Oh, you actually CAN tell it to render something in the style of a particular artist, though it might be restricted to characters (I guess you could just use "original") You just input it as <character> by <artist> Handy for artists with a distinctive and nice artstyle Like this koume by Ilya Kuvshinov
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Yeah, great for being transparent about the artist you want to plagarize from
I mean I'm not gonna deny there's a lot of opportunity here to do unethical stuff, but for myself I'm just using it to generate images for myself Like, wallpapers and whatever Even that kinda takes a while though, cause it's time consuming to get what you want
the facebook model LLaMa is comparable to the old GPT3 pure text generator but with open source model weights
but everyone really wants an open source ChatGPT
so now this team used a proprietary API to generate a bunch of examples of how a chatbot should behave and fed those examples to turn LLaMa into a chatbot
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From what I heard, actually running the llama locally requires a real BEEF PC though Honestly I kinda expected image generation to be way heavier
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
people have been running LLaMa on M1 macbooks just have to quantize the weights to 4bits first to get it to fit in ram
Open-assistant is doing that With the added intended functionality being it functioning as a computer assistant, capable of interacting with APIs and stuff >>1082237 oh shit samu train a moe bot on your archives so it can make posts when it's slow
You could even have it only respond to posts when it's @ed basically, you just gotta train it exclusively on posts that have a >> in it The collective responding madness of moe, reflected back through the least sane bot
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
>The difference is small, UNTIL you get to 4 bit quantization, where the model is noticeably dumber. >8 bits, imo, is the minimum.
dang how many different values does a 4-bit weight have anyway 16? yikes that's not a lot of precision
I mean assuming you're able to assemble all the posts into a dataset, it should be relatively simple to just remove everything not containing a >> But doing that in the first place seems tricky
You'd probably need to have it include the referenced post, too, so it has context for how that post came into existence I dunno how you'd go about any of this though, obviously
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
yeah i mean the actual parsing is obviously trivial but like arranging things in a linear coherent narrative so that the training doesn't incorporate all sorts of oddities
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Another issue would be dealing with the >>s that are just a continuation for a post, but those seem like they'd be a small enough part of the total to not really impact it too much
Kirara "Ikkyū" 🍄 ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
replace /omega/ with chatbot omega-san
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
>>1082246 that part isn't hard if you have info about the identity of the poster
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Oh yeah, I guess if you store IP and stuff in the archive, it's relatively simple
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
https://crfm.stanford.edu/alpaca/ rip alpaca hugged to death by the internets
>>1082251 I think I ate there once Or some similar pizza place
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are you going any south of the big attle on whatever it is you're doing
Rei !p8eYCadcMo
>>1082241 Yeah I would definitely not bother at that point. I wonder which ASICs it runs on. Thete are some you can get that don't require an arm amd *and a leg's worth to buy.
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yeah that seems human-made For one, it doesn't have that distinctive AI artstyle most people go with when they actually post something And also the hands are competent her bikini's also like, entirely sensible, and her hair is too
if it's AI, someone spent a lot of time fine tuning an "amateurish" image
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well, that or they just touched up an AI image, but if they were gonna do that, it's kinda weird to go with that pose
Oh also, here's a moderately interesting tidbit The torrent with the leaked novelai models, it's got both a "full" and a "pruned" version The full one is like, over twice the size, and the pruned is basically the same model but like, compressed through black magic Just intuitively, you'd think the full one is like, "better" overall, if you're willing to deal with the longer load time on boot and the obviously larger file size itself, and the pruned one is comparable but ultimately a little bit worse in some hard to quantify way
So I tested it, generating 5 images with a set seed using both The results were BASICALLY identical, very little distinction overall But The full one used less vram, somehow (that might just have been a coincidence, it's not like I did extensive testing here) And while the images were practically identical, the "full" one actually performed worse when you looked close, the faces were visibly more pixelated
I have no damn clue why this would be though, doesn't make any sense to me "more pixelated" isn't entirely the right way to phrase it either, it's more like they were pixelated, at all The pruned one has yet to provide me anything I could consider pixelated, so we're really just dealing with a slight, slight variation that made it appear, to some degree, pixelated Strangely, only noticable on the faces though Rest of the body was just fine
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gura is a shark!
i love myself
wait i thought this show was a happy time this is not a happy time :(
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whacha watchan
i love myself
elaina majo no tabitabi
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based on the cover art and artstyle I'd have assumed it's a sorta cozy show, too is it not?
i love myself
it's a much more complicated sort of thing than i was prepared for it's cozy at times but rather dark too and not like edgy dark but like pessimistic about human nature dark so far it's really good i think, just very different than i expected
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hm pessimistic how? just vaguely gloomy like humanity has declined or ?
i love myself
just like humans doing human things that aren't good reckoniing with that which you can't change about the world especially in settings like this, you don't really see that kind of attitude from the author especially not one that portrays it from this sort of perspective typically in most media but especially in anime, bearing witness to something undesirable to the witness's moral code should incite a response, a response that seeks to reconcile the difference or outright enforce the witness's code so seeing a protagonist witness something they don't want to see in the world but instead making the calculated decision not to intervene is pretty new to me i can't really think of many times if any that i felt this exact emotion at least from anime
hm I mean > so seeing a protagonist witness something they don't want to see in the world but instead making the calculated decision not to intervene is pretty new to me This part at least does happen in Overlord, though I expect in a very, very different way than you're talking about Ainz frequently actively decides not to rectify things he recognizes as injustices, even within his own direct sphere of influence where it'd be as simple as just telling his minions to knock it off A lot of the reason any competent reader will see him as easily being evil, really But like, the utterly banal, arguably more realistic form of evil stemming from simply not caring enough to do anything, rather than like, outright malice It's somewhat rare for him to do stuff that's just malicious, though it does absolutely happen, and most of the time it's just him drifting further and further from having any sort of kinship with humanity, being undead and all A lot of the time it is definitely a calculated, active decision to let things be even if they're horrific though
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it is pretty rare to see though, that's for sure Overlord is the only real example I even have for it, at least off the top of my head
>>1082283 yeah in this show it's the much more relevant-to-real-life kind where it's like "i might be able to cause some amount of change but it would be a disproportionate sacrifice" or "the injustice i see is perpetrated by forces larger than i should attempt to meddle with"
If you just focus on the face you can get some pretty great results, too Not having to worry about anatomy helps it out a lot cause, man, it is BAD at anatomy a lot of the time, so you end up trying to jury-rig a pose that obfuscates it, or let RNGesus take the wheel as you churn out 5-10 images at a time
>>1082270 It can be made by both AI and hand-drawn by artist. The AI makes the sketch, the artist finishes the sketch and gives it his own touch to it.
Soon this will happen to coders/programmers, they'll exist solely for giving the code a final touch. Everything will be AI.
Even players will be cheating with AI, since they're already unbeatable.
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
Sooner or later they'll plug an AI that can count to 5 into stable diffusion
>>1082293 Are we talking about AI here? Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
I mean if the Ai gets that smart then we transition to any one of A number of crazy sci fi scenarios We'll see
If you were onthe cusp of a super intelligence explosion it might look like this Stuff going on These days or this is just another plateau Who knows really not me
wow a little babitos been a good season for praying mantis
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The current view of AI is just the allegory of the cave, where the object casting the shadow is Machine Learning and the shadow is AI There will likely be no skynet-type AI until ML is combined with a couple other advanced computer shenanigans, methinks Also AI art has no value lol
>>1082301 honestly the entire "it's not actually AI" thing is just weird to me never seen that about the computer in video games, and that's been referred to as AI since like, doom
outside weirdo journalists trying to get clicks, nobody's really under the impression we've got HAL9000 on our hands, that's not really what AI has meant outside... well, scifi exclusively Literally never meant fully sentient machines in any context other than scifi media
for that matter, I'm not convinced we have criteria to distinguish a very advanced algorithm from "Real AI" I don't think that's something we're even capable of doing Even skynet and hal9k are, really, just very advanced algorithms
I mean, that's the thing That literally is what we are, unless you start dragging stuff like souls or other extra-natural stuff in
The human being is, at the end of the day, a machine It's real damn advanced, sure, but it's not like it functions in a non-mechanical way, as far as we can know anyway
But even if we fully mapped the human brain's functions and put that into a computer somehow, that'd still be "just an algorithm" Sentient AI is a concept we just don't really accept as a possibility in the first place, I think, and the final barrier we'll likely never break down is that it's not running on meat
though obviously, what we have around today doesn't even come close to anything that COULD be considered sentient lmao
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>>1082312 I think human consciousness is far too closely tied to the organic nature of the brain it is housed in to be considered a machine In the first place, it is highly erroneous to consider organically evolved physical entities a machine, unless you do seriously consider there was some higher
Hey shut up and let me finish
there was some higher intelligence which designed it If you see anything which operates in a systemic function as a machine, then everything more complex than inorganic matter is a machine, at which point the descriptor is so broad it becomes effectively meaningless Animals aren't machines because they weren't designed, humans, equally so To be a machine it has to be designed with a purpose in mind, there is no way humans apply to that context Just because we operate on commands from electromagnetic impulses and chemical reactions in our brains and bodies, doesn't mean we're machines The literal sense of a machine in this context is literally useless, so why use it, unless you want to just throw every organic creature in the "It's a machine!" box?
I mean, because that's kind of my point Sure if you just categorically say that only that which is designed counts as a machine, then obviously only human-created Things are machines, but that seems like a strange way to go about it Like if you just prefer a different term, that's fine, but the point isn't that humans are designed or whatever, but that if you take away that single criteria, we ae "just machines" Like the whole point is that, and not really anything beyond it
Sure you can apply that to basically the entire universe if you want, and in that sense it does become kind of an all-encompassing and meaningless term, but I feel like that only goes to show that we're then at the point where the only thing distinguishing us from a machine is that we made the machine, anyway For the purposes of the point, it's still the same result "Can a machine be sentient?" just becomes "can we make something that's sentient?" instead
really if anything, I think some sort of god and soul entity combination is the only way we escape being classified as machines well, beyond the "we weren't made" part
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>>1082317 I see it more that you want to believe that humans are nothing more than machines, when I think as a species we have consistently proven our difference from them So your determination to just call human machines is functionally incorrect in the first place Maybe in the eventual future, we'll design mechanical creations which are sufficiently close to human nature and human consciousness But rather than calling humans machines, I think it would be more accurate to call those creations human
I'm not really sure what you mean by that first part, but on that last part I mean Those would be machines
It's less that I want to believe we are nothing more than machines, and more that it's just a necessary conclusion from the rest of my beliefs I don't see another option, even conceptually I actually can't conceive of an alternative to us being something we'd classify as a machine if we scratched off the necessity of it needing to be designed by some intelligent entity Sure we've got like, a LOT of processing going on and the mechanics of what's going on is extremely complex, but ultimately it is input->processing->output I guess lumping us together with machines is kinda inaccurate mostly due to like, what machines we've been able to put together so far though, they're pretty limited in comparison to what evolution has cooked up
It's not like I'm unaware that it's super reductive or anything, though But I'm just not sure at what level of complexity it stops being appropriate to consider it a machine Like if we did make an automaton that's indistinguishable from human beings, down to the exact mechanics of how it processes all its information and stuff, that'd still be a machine, right? It wouldn't suddenly transcend the category, would it? Even if we label it human, that seems more like a practical decision than guided by any particular criteria that now separates it from the rest of the machines.
apparently 4 bits is really quite enough precision in larger neural nets depending on the activation function I imagine a lot o the time its a on/off signal anyway
took roomie out and shouted him dinner seemed a bit down this girl he's dating is probably taking him for a bit of a ride
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hey samsam I'm trying out that Big Ambitions game NL was playing and holy BRSH fast food is no joke, man I'm selling burgers for $6 each, the market price is $4 and they cost like $1.3 each from the wholesale place, and in like 3 days I've sold fucking nearly 500 burgs
basil from Austin Powers really said "I don't like to play with beta children"
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>>1082391 I'm pretty sure there's a substantial amount of illustrators out there who get into drawing lewd stuff because no one is doing anything which really gets them off
>>1082392 it's a lotta fun though it turns out the like, story mode actually teaches you wrong It funnels you through doing stuff way more difficult than need be
Really your second "business" should be a HQ to manage logistics, followed by a warehouse to actually DO the logistics For one, keeping things stocked is a pain in the ass, and secondly it frees up your time to do more profitable stuff, such as playing video games and taking a nap in the park (your character's happiness directly effects employee productivity) A gift shop is also just a fucking dogshit venture too Bad profit amounts, even if the actual % is fucking amazing And it sets you up with that first
Liquor shops are fucking busted though Sure the margins are the same, but the actual items are more expensive
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nvm he said Delta he also "I am glad to be a beta"
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my gruyeye carmalized onion dip is very mid waiter, take it back
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wait a minute, I didn't pay for this and its an old can of mushroom soup I wasnt at the ritz carlton... was it all a dream...
>>1082397 Yeah but surely then they can just use their imagination If it's already in their heads Why go through the extra step of Reproducing it on paper
In my Japanese class this evening we were talking about Senbero joints Sen, a thousand. Berobero. Wasted. Like places you can get drunk for under a thousand yen.
and then I piped up with something like >Australia no Senbero Goon sack desu
The teacher didn't get it but it got a bit of a laugh from some of the other students.
Is using the leaked AI models, whether image generators or text, piracy? I can't put my finger on why, but for some reason part of my brain doesn't think it counts, somehow Maybe it's because the model itself isn't even supposed to be distributed in the first place, so it should be categorized as something other than piracy specifically, but I'm not sure
Samu ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼
Piracy isn't real Intellectual theft is just intelligence Share everything
Rei !p8eYCadcMo
>>1082461 maybe copyright infringement? it's not a question with an easy answer because this is far different than the kind of stuff normally dealt with in IP law which itself was never pepared for software patents (a long time ago software was not patentable due to legal precedent set by a case I can't remember).
I wonder if there's also an issue with even claiming copyright on the models in the first place, since they're all made by harvesting and using other people's IP without approval, and pretty crucially, they wouldn't be even comparable if they did get the approval first, so in some sense the thing only exists through violation of copyright in the first place
Like for any other Thing we've dealt with so far, the use of other people's IP has either been an outright patent violation, or mostly a marketing thing (or like, plagiarism I guess) But even in cases of plagiarism and patent violations, you can't quite as conclusively say that the product made while violating those IP rights couldn't exist otherwise Like you could envision someone happening to write a piece of music or literature, or creating a Thing in a way that simply happens to, by coincidence rather than necessity, match someone else's intellectual property But with these AI models, if they didn't violate other people's copyright en masse, the damn thing literally couldn't have been made at all (or, I guess, technically it COULD be made if they somehow managed to request and acquire the rights for an absolutely unreasonable amount of Content, but realistically they'll never accomplish that, if for no other reason than the holders being unreachable or simply not responding)
it's a very different beast in that way, I feel like
>>1082464 Training it on things other than source code with certain licenses would fall under fair use.
Rei !p8eYCadcMo
fair use of err fair use gets complicated when it comes to source code because of licensing restrictions. Which is a good thing. a lot of people throw around fair use (the term) amd don't actually understand it. this is a very important type of fair use that many people don't seen to know about (including someone on /moe/) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformative_use
Rei !p8eYCadcMo
see also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_v._Acuff-Rose_Music,_Inc.
>>1082473 Yeah... Ik. Unfortunately I'm not in the right frame of mind right now to enjoy it.
I will watch it later though.
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>>1082492 Ah, sorry to hear that Hope you feel better before too long I'll be around for day two and the DECO*27 stage over the weekend if you're in a better space for those
the supermarket chain I work at are converting a few checkouts to "selfserve checkouts" with conveyor belts and whatnot at each store (I assume) this is gonna be rolled out slowly but surely but each time a store has this change introduced, the boomers hit Facebook local area
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pages with verbatim the same jokes and complaints and it's like go shop somewhere else dude you would lose your mind if you knew about the ai discourse
