I also set up baka.doushio.com before this but it turned out Special and I'll be putting it down
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special?
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>>36 h0i! >>38 the hosting plan I selected turned out to be fatally flawed some weird shared kernel stuff that has bitrotted it was a super cheap plan though, would have been economical
bitrot is hmm when software stops working after a while because the systems around it have changed even though the bits are the same as they were, the world has moved on
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i guess it can also refer to the deterioration of physical media but that's not what i'm referring to
>in 2020 the bitrot began >slowly but surely all of the data stored began to rot, like grain stored in a damp storehouse >and by 2030, all the harddrives were empty
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time to start a wikipedia-printing company
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What are we even supposed to be testing.
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your everyday usecase i guess just lemme know if anything seems off
>>55 There are lots of Shiratsuyu class MMDs out there, some are good and some not so much. Lots of Shigure too. I think she's the most popular DD right now.
>>101 I don't see a problem with starting from scratch. Well, I guess I should ask, will the old posts be migrating or will the counter just be moved up?
We start from scratch the ashes of the old shall fertilise the new
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>>102 it could go either way but probably the latter since that's easy
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I am happy to start anew leave /moe/s past in the past besides, that way when people show up and see post counts in the four digits, they'll think it's appropriately small and not some place that's been around for ever to get three million posts or super popular
>>111 that's not what i mean but i mean that if someone comes along and sees posts in the 3-millions, it'll seem comparable to a 4-chan tier board, with that many users if they see a few thousand, they'll think it's pretty low key and approach it with that temperament, probably and not like a sea of anonymity
moe has a different form than it did in 2011 i think a fresh start is a good reflection of that we don't really need people digging through those old archives anyway i used to get a little paranoid when people would mistype and link to something 2 years in the past
cigars are like smoking ten cigarettes at once you have to be careful not to inhale the absorption through the mouth alone is already more intense than a cigarette
>>162 blue, me, kannagi, you, and rika play i think yakus arent very important because they're rare but it's basically in-hand three of a kind x 4 + one pair without calling on other players tiles 13 orphans (1+9 pin, man, and sou, and each wind, and each dragon, one of which is paired) nine gates (1-9 of a single set with a pair in between, i think 111 and 999 are mandatory) daisangen, 3 of each dragon tile all greens (2, 3, 4, 6, 8 sou and the [hatsu?] dragon tile, the one that looks like a christmas tree) and a few other rare exceptions but yaku hands dont matter because they dont happen
If I died in my sleep I'd be fucking comforted, instead I have keep coughing every couple of seconds.
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The guy that handle's Studio TRIGGER's English-speaking relations is posting in a thread on /a/. He uploaded this short clip of some Trigger employees goofing around the office. They got one of those cans of compressed air with the long, mosquito like proboscis and an oppai mousepad of Ryuuko and Satsuki. Apparently when you puncture the oppai just right with the can and use the air, the oppai swell up like balloons. Its pretty funny to watch.
I have accomplished nothing today, it is actually super fustrating. I don't want my weekends to just be wasted. I bet I will be completely well on monday too. SUCKS
I came home last night to find my dog trapped under my brother's car. She has a knack for climbing under things and then not being able to climb out, as well as having a knack for not learning from her mistakes. I hope she has though, because it's really stressing to try and figure out how to pull a dog out of the underneath of car, well it is the first time.Next time I'll just get the car jack.
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Well I didn't end up pulling her fully out, she somehow figured out how to crawl out of there once I thought of trying to get the jack.
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hehe silly dog she should just learn how to dislocate all of her bones like a cat
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That just makes me think of something from a horror movie like the exorcist .
You would think that for as long as laptops have been around they would've evolved something better than the trackpad. It just feels cumbersome at times.
Fine. Tasty. A lot better than my crappy food photography skills make it look. But like.. It wasn't THAT much better than the other meals I've had here. I probably enjoyed eating the frog porridge more, and that was just some hole in the wall place with patio furniture on the sidewalk.
Maybe I lack the refined pallet to really enjoy good food.
This manga is good. http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/the-mermaid-princesss-guilty-meal-r20583
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>>426 I was waiting outside the restrooms for the boys to be done doing their thing and a dude came up and was totally accosting me he was like "why are you here" i'm like "uh, waiting for my friends in the restroom" "why don't you take a seat? i'll wait here" and a lot of other drunk things i dont understand and then he went into the restroom as quarx was stepping out and grabbed quarx's crotch
it was uneventful i dont even know what he was on about he kept going for a while then gave up and went to the bathroom drunk people are weird even when i drink i dont get that drunk
Can not recommend watching the Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson thing
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It's 2 full hours of Sam: "things are true or false independent of their consequences for human life" Jordan: "Things CAN NOT be true if they lead to negative outcomes for human life" As in literally can not be true
We're at the point where we're willing to retcon reality itself if something we discovered leads to a net bad outcome If the cold war had lead to a nuclear winter, atomic bombs blowing up huge areas would be false
Couldn't the dullahan in demichan just attach her head to where heads usually go? The flame doesn't seem to be dangerous, and it can be blocked by physical objects so you could just have a thin metal plate there and place the head on top, fasten it with something
>>509 Maybe you could have some sort of construction that just lets it flow to the sides or behind her, so her vision is clear It'd look a little weird, but carrying around your own head does, too
She said it was uncomfortable when swole archer stuck his hand in it.
More importantly, there's no point in her being a dullahan if she's just going to bolt her head back on. The show is about how they're different from humans, it's completely missing the point to suggest she should do anything other than carry her head around.
You can sign NDAs for illegal stuff, right, but can cops do the same? Like, an NDA that says anything they see about a certain illegal operation, they can't prosecute on?
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>>519 No, NDAs don't precede federal law here, at least.
That's what makes the most sense, but I was lead to believe when I asked about it one time before that you can sign an NDA about something you're about to see, and it will cover it even if what you see is illegal
>>522 Yeah >>521 If you breach the nda you could face charges but it doesn't matter if they're in jail Also the Uniform Trade Secrets Act sets forth a pretty solid definition of what is and isn't applicable to a nondisclosure agreement So I guess it depends on what they're doing that's illegal
You can't accuse them of just making more episodes to fill a season, at least
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Most British shows only have six episodes a season.
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yeah but Trailer Park Boys has gone from like 7 to 8, to 10 one season, to 9 to 6 It's all over the place, and it seems like they just have ideas for a season and make those, rather than get approval for a season and then figure out something to make for each episode in it
I can't say for sure if that's really the case of course
Yeah, it's one of my peeves with good shows They'll have a few good seasons, but from then they'll just make full seasons whether they have ideas for it or not
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x files suffered from it in the later seasons, too
I really shouldn't have bought that Youshka figure. I took it out of the box because that's the only way I could get it to fit in my rucksack. And up close it seemed pretty low quality. Chibi Yuno/Miya are really nice though. >>557 how's life?
>>563 What did this Richard Spencer guy do or say that made everyone suddenly hate him
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>>568 He's apparently supported by the KKK and neo nazis He himself doesn't think he is, but that's obviously not true because someone else said they do
Which of course means violence is justified I mean, he disagrees with me after all, why wouldn't I be in favor of using violence to shut him up? That's what freedom of speech and expression is all about
>>556 The same in Japan too. All the conbini over there sell alcohol. Though it's pretty much just all cheap tiny bottles. Still, cheap, tiny bottles that can get you drunk.
I don't think tiny kiosks and shit are allowed to sell beer even, here
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Same here. The only place that can sell liquor in the province is the provincial-government controlled liquor store chain. It was the same way for beer for the longest time, but recently I think headway was made into allowing it into major grocery store chains.
Yeah anything stronger than beer, you have to go to the state liquor store for, here Even wine
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That said the conbini in Japan do have the "CHECK THIS PERSON'S ID REGISTER MAN" stuff built into the cashier when buying alcohol.
>>580 Like the cash register will stop any further transaction until the person working the register makes a point of saying "yes this person is of age".
Kaljaa kioskeihin! beer to kiosks a finnish protest song that sang literally that "bring beer to kiosk" which has been available in them as long as I remember. Now they will bring stronger beer and open the restrictions on breweries selling their products directly
Though wine and booze still remain in state monopoly hands.
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Though pretty much whenever I was buying booze the people working just waived it through because they probably didn't want to try their hand at English. I guess I do look a bit more of age around Asians too though.
>>579 Woolworths did that whenever anybody wanted to buy a set of dinner knives.
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Oh yeah, did the beer selling vendingmachines actually exist?
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Yeah. They existed when I visited back in 2011 or something too. I didn't see as many this time around, but that might be because I wasn't a thirsty underaged brat. So I wasn't looking.
>>587 how long do you think it would last before a bunch of bogan shitkickers smashed it open?
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>>588 Yeah, even then, the ever growing onslaught of conbini expansion is probably putting them out of business. Conbini are open 24/7 and are more reliable at keeping alcohol out of the hands of the underaged.
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>>589 We don't break vending machines here. we aren't uncivilised people. But more important question is, how quickly would it be sold out...
>>590 Also yeah, how do those machines work in terms of "underaged drinking"
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>>592 and the fact that people have the mentality of "you break it, it will be taken from taxes"
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and everyone pays taxes
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I can't ever think of a time I've seen a broken-into vending machine here. Maybe northern decency is really a thing.
>>593 To put it simply, they don't. Cigarette vending machines have a card-based security check; you need a special card to do any transactions with them. But for some reason they don't put the same securities on beer-vending machines. I heard a while back that they were trying to implement it with the card, but I never saw it while I was there.
>>596 I guess it is "well the respectable youth won't use them and the hoodlums would just break the machine, so better keep it easy to access and profit"
It's black and looks like shit >>605 It's a nordic thing
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snuff is the alternate name
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oh wait snuff was the nose tobacco
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>>601 I wouldn't be surprised if there were under-aged drinking laws too, so it's not like a kid can just buy a beer and then slick around town drinking it.
The machines are also kind of expensive--like you'd really only ever buy the beer from them if you wanted beer.
I don't even know why we use cig machines here You still have to get a ticket for the machine at the cashier, so you don't free up their time or nothing
And I don't see it reducing the chance of like, robberies or whatever either, not that that even fucking HAPPENS
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Can the ticket be used to by -buy any selection from the vending machine though?
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>>613 There's a touchscreen by the cashier, you use that to select what you want Then you give the ticket from that to the cashier, they scan it and activate it You pay You go to the machine with the cigs in it outside the shop You get your cigs And you go home
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I mean that's a really stupidly roundabout system but at least you don't get those people standing at the cashier going "uuuuh I want this one-oh want no, maybe thi-uuuuhh okay maybe that one..." and so on.
>>618 Yeah same here. The only way you can order a pack is by having a name to ask for.
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>>618 You can't here either But the machine with the tickets lists all the brands and stuff
You use that machine for condoms and stuff too, actually
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And then when I visited the States they've got a whole wall of convenience stores dedicated to the bazillion brands you can buy. It was really kind of off-putting.
Holy shit that should be an episode of Trailer Park Boys The boys start smuggling Kinder Eggs out of canada into the US
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Things get crazy when Lahey thinks they're running drugs
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Kinder eggs aren't like super secret things, I don't get how americans think they are deadly You eat the chocolate and don't eat the toy like this is not a difficult thing
>>631 It's because they've got plastic in them! I don't understand how you'd even physically eat it and manage to swallow the plastic, but apparently 3 kids on planet earth did manage to
>eat the egg whole what a waste you crack i tin half and eat the each half bit by bit while assembling the toy. not that modern toys are any fun, since "NOO OUR Precious-Peter might swallow the parts so they must be banned"
Just make it illegal to sell kinder eggs to kids 18+
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> CBP held two Seattle men for two and a half hours after discovering six Kinder Surprise eggs in their car upon returning to the US from a trip to Vancouver. According to one of the men detained, a border guard quoted the potential fine as US$2,500 per egg.[17] Border guards sure know how to make money I have no idea how they justify the pricing system
>>644 If you let trump know about, I am sure he'll update the whitehouse website about the terrible threat,\
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>>644 When the canadians sell their chocolate, they're not selling their best. They're selling kinders, they're selling surprises, and some of them, I assume, are selling good chocolate.
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>>643 >it is true only if it is good for humanity I knew it Holocaust never happened!
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>>648 yeah essentially There never were nazis, is basically Jordan's position if you take it to its logical extreme
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I feel like eating some kinder eggs. brb going to the shops
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Or rather, it's "It's not true that the nazis existed"
People rarely think about the extreme notions of a statement, but then again few people take their philosophical pondering beyond the basic reality level.
He literally, in the 'debate' says that something can be true, and if it later leads to a bad outcome, it stops being true retroactively This is some Orwellian shit, which is insane coming from the guy so worried about 1984 happening in Canada
True without going that deep into metaphysics, is a thing that is true that you can objectively prove that it has happened or is so.
hmm I had a summary of this in finnish how did it go... well it was not about truth but "fact" or knowledge ah, "truth is a justifiable true belief"
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I recommend watching it almost for the sake of getting a headache trying to understand what the fuck Jordan is even saying I'm not sure I understand it myself, entirely, because it's bizarre
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Like here's an example actually FROM THE DEBATE
Sam says something along this "If you have a wife, and someone claims she had an affair with another man, you'd require evidence, right? So they say they hired a private investigator, they present you with pictures of your wife fucking another man, and you're convinced, for the sake of argument" "You then kill yourself as a result of finding out this information. Can you now say that it is untrue that your wife had an affair BECAUSE you killed yourself as a result?"
To which Jordan's response is basically "well there's a lot of context there I'd need to fully understand..." Meaning there is a possibility, in his mind, that him killing himself as a result of something UNDOES the truth value of that something happening in the first place
That's fucking insane There's no other word for it, it's legitimately fucking insane
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because anyone else wouldn't need to wait a moment to go "Of fucking course not, are you stupid? That's obviously not what I mean"
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https://youtu.be/1gdpyzwOOYY?t=6870 Here's that part
I'm not even joking This is what Peterson himself says he believes
Hahah, oh wow Ricky's making hash coins to pay for shit rather than selling it and then using the money to buy stuff
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haha, tf00t is getting dislikes again due to making a not pro trump video, when in truth it is just criticising the right alt-media for being equally shit as well left alt-media
In short: there was some hmm rebel washington or wahtever news outlet following a clearly anarchist window smashing march and shouting "these are anti-trump people" Okay they are anti-trump but they are also anti-hillary and anti-government and so on. Basically, he just called out a stupid reporter wanna be on their bullshit, but because it wasn't calling the left out, people dislike it without really watching it. And of course tf00t is bit preachy and I do kinda believe that there wouldn't be that many anarchists smashing windows if hillary had won.
That's like saying ISIS is anti-Obama I mean, yeah, but they're just generally anti-AMERICA
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>>669 nah not the anfa just general black clothe, red A flaggers
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>>672 What just regular-ass anarchists? Even so though, they're anti-government as a whole It wouldn't matter to them if Jesus Christ hisself was in charge, they're anti government, full stop.
>>673 Yup, but it does raise a question were there anarchists marches when previous presidents were inaugurated? Or was it just, that because there were that many other protests, it became possible for them to really act out this time?
Practically nobody quotes "God is dead" for its actual meaning Fucking idiots all think he literally means god is dead as in doesn't exist or did, but fucking died
I mean anarchists might be particularly anti-trump, but inherently they are always anti-potus no matter who sits there.
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btw did the "i will personally write you a campaign ticket" actually deliver on that?
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Well being an anarchists is being against the whole system of government so It is kind of retarded to go "they are anti-trump" or "they are pro-Hillary"
>>688 gotta love the people who say it as a joke, but at the same time going "I WILL DO IT" and then they don't >>690 They should I mean he could've written it all tongue in cheek and made a good number of it in his hsow
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They always say shit like that and never deliver on it
I'm not watching that whole tf00t video No need to, he's said all he needs to like 2 minutes in
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>>659 well his "science is a tool to describe reality, not description of reality" is the better view.
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>>694 Whether something iss true or not doesn't have anything to do with science
it has to do with IS IT TRUE? I don't care what method you used to find out something is true, but if something that happens as a result of the information being available can swap it from true to fale, you're fucking insane
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>>693 yeah that is kinda the point like his laughing at idiocy with the "debate" guy did they need to be 1hour +
With enough money and professionals working on it, it would be possible but at that point, you'd need to actually build the house designed so customising an already existing sauna would be way too complicated for it to work
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I'm sure someone has come up with heat proofed and water-resistant speakers. People live in Florida after all.
game dev got up far later than I expected today and I didn't get much work done yesterday either I won't finish in time. Oh well Are you guys ready to withdraw from the United Nations?
He is pretty much, atleast reduced to the extreme, trying to commit much worse level of changing facts to suit your needs that 1984 was all about, than the whole "please use this gender pronoun"
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yeah holy shit I'd rather have authoritarians force me to use certain words than the truth itself being open to retconning if it turns out it leads to a bad outcome for something to be a certain way It's absolutely insane
And also it makes me wonder how many things he's said aren't true in the past are actually true...
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he tries to somehow link moral values to truth values, which are fundamentally different. This is like saying music is wet it just isn't something that can really be since music is just sound waves travelling in the air picked up by your ear and convered by your brain into "sound" it can't basically be wet
>>751 >that 1984 was all about 1984 was about a bunch of different things.
>>758 Yeah, but extreme linguistic prescriptivism, retconning history, doublethink, the use of torture, and so on, were all independent parts of the narrative. So people who haven't read the book say things like, "THE WORLD IS LITERALLY BECOMING 1984" and then cite something like mass surveilance, which was only a very small part of how Big Brother actually operated. Even the very phrase, "Big Brother is watching you," had more nuance to it than "you're being spied on."
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primarily about hijacking language
which is sorta what he's actually doing to a much more severe degree than the people he rightfully bitches about
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>>756 the whole language, doublehtink and such were the ultimate main point I mean good fifth of the book was just about the process of converting someone through doublethink
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>>659 HAHAHA I now came to this part that long silence... I think he for a moment realised how folly he is, but refuses to back down nonetheless
>>759 The really fucked part is, as I said in that post, that he even has to think about it Literally anyone else would go "Hahah, what? no no, dude I think you've misunderstood what I mean"
And well to be fair to peterson too, harris is bit bad at how he pursues this at times too He is making it too complicated, which jordan answers with his weird morality view of the world based on his ethics, but this really has become a discussion between one guy going for truth theories and someone going for viewing world in one kind of moral standard
How the hell would you even properly pursue this? He's tried everything from tiny tiny examples to big examples to personal examples at this point, and NONE OF THEM are getting anywhere
I don't really know, I'd have to go back to the point this going-nowhere train began, and am too lazy for it It just shows that petersson is kinda weird guy too for that matter.
Yeah I now see the pattern >harris makes example >jordan answers and then continues ranting about his moral view points >harris tries to get back to epistemology >jordan somehow pops it back to moral discussion while somehow claiming it is still about truth and truth values
But yeah summa summarum Peterson: Truth can be wrong Which is just fundamentally wrong, because truth is statement=false/true wrong is an ethical statement, and is just opinion based on values about a thing. How does he really go on about something so basis, without realising what he is saying for abou 1h15mins
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.3613/norway-sets-new-record-of-forced-returns.html?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork NEW HIGH SCORE
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>>>/watch?v=ZmZK9W4V1Rc#t=27s woops oh well his answer kinda explains his point, but it still doesn't remove the "spent 1h15m arguing truth can be wrong"
>>790 Sage works as sage now. Evidently some people think this is a bug. I'm fine either way, whether or not we actually have acess to it as a tool or as a meme like I'm using it right now.
Yeah they do atleast here claim to be for the workers, but they havn't done anything for the workers. No party is for the working man anymore. Though all claim to be.
I get a kick out of the fact that the British left-wing party is called the Labor Party
Depite the fact that it has made itself into the one of the worst upper-class liberal-identitarian pseudo-left groups out there by combining \\\\ applying the strict British conservative attitude to political correctness.
>>810 It's also dumb to change your party into "fuck the working class party" without changing the name
Yeah apparently, first time I heard of it too, they switch them or renew their contracts with each presidential switch. I think our ambassadors are hired with no ties to the ruling cabinet per se or atleast their contracts are not tied to cabinet changes. >>831 If I read correct, the same thing happened when bammers took power and bush and so on
Well why would you have ambassadors you did not hire? It is kinda logical to swap them around, they afterall represent YOU in the other countries. But yeah, I'd have figured the ambassador hiring goes through senate or some official body working under it.
>>832 That's most people's response to basically anything that's happened since Trump was nominated by the Republicans.
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>>832 C&P from wiki "Ambassadors are nominated by the President and confirmed by the U.S. Senate.[1] An ambassador can be appointed during a recess, but he or she can only serve as ambassador until the end of the next session of Congress unless subsequently confirmed.[2] Ambassadors serve "at the pleasure of the President", meaning they can be dismissed at any time.
An ambassador may be a career Foreign Service Officer or a political appointee. In most cases, career foreign service officers serve a tour of approximately three years per ambassadorship whereas political appointees customarily tender their resignations upon the inauguration of a new president. As embassies fall under the State Department's jurisdiction, ambassadors answer directly to the Secretary of State."
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>>829 So basically, I think all the political appointments are getting pulled back, but some foreign service officers might still be in business, depending when their current contract began so I don' think that statement is exactly 100% factual and well is as I pasted above, not actually rare.
It just is that everything needs to be highlighted now, to show how BAD trump is apparently.
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And I bet a similiar "We are without ambassadors, obama sucks" happened back in 2009 we just didn't hear about it back then
>>907 Make the word more unique? some of them are just half wide character changes. >>909 Its a top secret ｍｏｅ♥ thing ＹＯＵＵＵＵＵＵ have to get top clearance your body is not Ｌ＠ＤＹ for it.
Oh you're watching that cave movie with the savages
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oh noo this is about when few years back 5 finnish divers were cave-diving in norway and 2 died there and the other 3 barely made it out and then when the norwegian authorities went "fuck the corpses" they snuck back there and brought their fallen comrades back and apparently filmed the whole thing too
oh don't go explorin' in norway niggas die all the time
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Dude we had a shooter on an island right outside oslo and it took the cops several hours to get a chopper together you get stuck on a mountain climbing or something, you're on your own buddy
They werent even supposed to be there to begin with Nigga if "VISIT NORWAY FOR OUR NATURE" goes "Yeah please don't go there", trust me Don't go there Shit is WACK
>>946 And I say fuck'em If I paid taxes I'd be offended my taxes went to retrieve two dumb assholes' corpses from a place they died despite not being allowed to be there >>948 Yeah good on them and all, but the government made the right call by going "fuck that shit"
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>>947 Atleast these guys cleaned up their own mess
Like I get they're finns and all but seriously If the norwegian government tells you not to fuck around somewhere there's a reason cause dude we know what's out there in our wilds
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>>954 there wasn't a ban on the cave before this, though
>>959 first diver got stuck in a thight spot and drowned there eventually after failing to get out and calm down his breathing second had a problem with the rebreather and then also drowned the two /three remaining divers then swam away two made it through the thight spot and swam to the other end of the cave system, having about +3 hours on their dive time, but still making out without any diver's disease or shit and the third diver swam back the way they came and made it out with +6 hours planned diving time, and miraculously with no ill effects either.
here's pick of the cave they started from plura with intention of resurfacing at the dry cave, leaving their gear there and then walking out to their camp and then coming back and doing the trip otherways on the next day.
The Jari U. red dot is where the narrow no wait Jari H. is where the narrow spot was and Jari U. was the other diver who died of gear failure.
Yeah, I can understand lake and river and sea diving, but cave diving, especially those kinds of cave systems it is to me like jumping without a parachute
"let's maximize the possibility of death for NO PARTICULAR REASON" just get a revolver and play russian roulette you fucking morons At least all but one of you will make it out of that one alive
>>973 and reminder that when you dive to those depths, you need to come up slowly to stabilise the pressure so you can't even go like "fuck it I am out of here" cause you will then die of the pressure change.
