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What does Oliver have that makes him better than Odin?
Kirara 🚗
10 more attack
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Well I guess that's a decent advantage.
Kirara 🚗
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An Oliver is going to die for my Sanaki tomorrow.
Kirara 🚗
what the fuck am i seeing
Oriental shorthairs apparently
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Hi /moe/! Home from another long day how are we all doin
gonna lose everything to these tiles
Kirara 🚗
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I'm trying to figure out a way to build Oliver that will make him useful.s
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Can you?
Kirara 🚗
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The best I can get with the simulator is
>Wins: 169Losses: 9Inconclusive: 16

That's with
Weapon: Blarowl+
Refine: Spd Bonus - Standard Ranged
Special: Glimmer
A: Life and Death 3
B: Vantage 3
C: Threaten Res 3
S: Attack +3

and three adjacent units
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I don't think the simulator gives real meaningful conclusions there. team comp matters way too much
i can't see him being much use besides like fortress res, QR, some C slot, heavy blade seal (can ranged use heavy blade)
and the iceberg
atk ploy for the c slot i forgot
Kirara 🚗
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it's a useful way to look at the viability of a build
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I think it's a good way to test the viability and general ruggedness of a unit.
And it's a great way to see how defensively effective you can make a unit.
Kirara 🚗
ranged can use heavy blade but his attack isn't going to be high enough to get meaningful increases to it
we should make gays use seperate bathrooms
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one bathroom per gay
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He'll never be good!
He can't even charge iceberg fast because he has no speed.
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oh that's right heavy blade is based off atk isn't it
i forgot that was a component of it
uh, give him HP+5 refined weapon, fury, guard, threaten res, and HP+5 seal
then give him reprisal
one phase charge and a potentially huge reprisal hit
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Heavy blade really only helps units that are okay in the first place.
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Hey what was your bridge charlotte build again?
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I don't really have one.
I played with it extensively but couldn't come up with a good build for her.

The best builds for her are either brave weapon/deathblow builds, or firesweet builds.
Kirara 🚗
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At least Oliver can rest easy knowing he'll die so Sanaki can be beautiful.
Kirara 🚗
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I was thinking about maybe a nuker support build to go with a magetank team
i was thinking ditch brave for firesweep and death blow for sparrow strike (is that what's it's called i forget)
the mercy wings
or instead of firesweep, even the new modified first bite+ from the weapon refinery would be a huge boost to your team

i wish there were more interesting challenges that made me need to use team strategies
sure some challenge maps you swap vantage for axebreaker for a niche need or for whatever but i'm thinking of ways that i could counter other people's builds but there's just no satisfying way to have that challenge, since you're only fighting people's defensive-set arena teams, never the teams that they use to get through the arena week themselves
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Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah,
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Kirara 🚗
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sorry, huh?
Kirara 🚗
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her computer must be bugging out again
maaaps maaaaps maaaaps maaaaps
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maybe she's bugging out?
did i say something that broke her brain in twain
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Japanese auto-fill turned on again.

I was saying that the first bite is interesting with weapon upgrades.
Kirara 🚗
what's interesting about it?
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+5 def/res to units within 2 spaces
in my example that means she can still be a heavy physical nuker while still supporting a tank team, who would probably be positioned with swap and stuff
so with wom, if she popped in, boosted the frontline's def/res by 5 while simultaneously doubling someone with sparrow strike, (quick sparrow was it?) then the tankies swap her to safety and can engage player-phase with the boosted res/def or prepare for the enemy phase with boosted def

i feel like it's a good strategy, but one that isn't worth anything at the moment since the challenges provided by IS doesn't meet up with the sort of teambuilding that makes the game fun
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The problem is everyone has to be close too.

I think there's maybe a potential windsweep build there.
But the speed may be hard to pin down.
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i only woke up 9 hours ago and i have work in 8 hours
if you do the math that means i'm fucked
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that's why i was thinking magetank -- hold on
okay back to what i was saying
I've got a similar setup going now of my frobin, katarina/sophia, boey/cecilia, and bridge cordellia
even though bridge cordelia is great, i feel like specifically with frobin/kat/boey you've got two owl tomers, all with swap and buff skills for adjacent
so hoarding up people close can be really strong
it's a tactic i just don't get to take advantage of in any current scenario though
i can set it up as a defense team but that's not a very satisfying challenge if the AI doesn't follow my strat

I'm hoping they set up PVP where i can pre-set teams and then give them basic AI prioritizing like, "this unit should prioritize staying next to this unit" or "this unit needs to buff this unit"
it's not particularly complicated to integrate that
but they way ive been watching them do their market research, i think they'll just value more heavily what their guided surveys suggest and weight reception over game contact points
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There are some mage tank builds for her that revolve around berkut's lance and distant counter.
I don't really have strong feelings for her as a mage tank though because of the low res and the number of good green tomes.

I think probably the best build for her is some sort of windsweep build.
Kirara 🚗
absolutely not worth a distant counter
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sorry i think maybe i was vague
by magetank i meant tanks who are mages, like my robin, or katarina/boey, stuff like that
i meant that she could be a backline supporter with WoM who can pop in (since mages have two range), blow up someone that happens to be high res and give the mages a def/res boost while doing it, then be swapped to safety by boey or robin

she has a unique ability with first bite that she can support while attacking
not a lot have that
and she can't survive an enemy phase
so instead of supporting her, blend the roles and let her support while blowing people up
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Yeah, definitely not worth.
Anyone could be a decent tank with an expensive setup like berkut's lance + distant counter.

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Yeah, being so bad in enemy phase is her problem.
I think it keeps her from being a good unit.
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Sorry to drill a point here, but i see it as a game with such high customizability
all the challenges presented are either the arena meta or the "challenges" from the special maps
there's so many fun ways to want to make a unit useful, but the sad part is you don't have to because there's nothing you can directly interact with in the game that allows you to utilize such intricate team-building
i feel like that's really what the game's big selling point is, too
yeah, you always want the big-name units, but you also want to make use of all the resources you've got. they're really not tapping into that resource part hard enough when you consider 3* and 4* units as resources

i mean, freakin mario universe lets you place hats for people to find?? sorry, balloons
why can't FE have like a mario maker kind of platform where we can just set teams up as challenges
defense arena just isn't quite satisfying in that way
let people upload maps and make custom challenges, you can see how many people beat it vs how many times it has been attempted and so forth

i wouldn't stretch that far, i transcribe market research callouts like this all the time, though not surveys necessarily
sometimes they'll ask about things like that in hopes that someone can provide insights on how to make it feasible market-wise
surveying usually involves a range of upper-bounds and lower-bounds questions
things that are in consideration of dropping, still leave questions about it in case you missed something people can glean insight on
or things that seem desirable but out of possibility in hopes that someone gives a meaningful perspective that can actually make it feasible
Kirara 🚗
the end game of every mobage is OSOBOS
it's a universe rule
Kirara 🚗
i believe they're working on something like that if the survey is to be believed
Kirara 🚗
the city defense mechanic was one of the most popular aspects of Fates
they're obsessed with Fates
so i think they'll probably implement it
plus city building games are incredibly popular with normies
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I would always love new modes, but my philosophy when it comes to units is that I like rugged generalists.
It's hard to fit Bridal Charlotte into the way I play because the margin of error for making her useful is so low.
Kirara 🚗
i hate the word rugged
Kirara 🚗
because it's not pronounced similarly to every other word that's spelled similarly
there's literally no reason for it to be pronounced like it is
yes it is that is the phonetic differentiation between an adjective and past-tense verb

properly, anything ending in -ed in that sense has a separate "id" sounding syllable for if it's an adjective, and just a trailing d sound if it's a past-tense verb

when you hear people pronounce learned as learn-id, that's because they're referring to someone who has done a lot of learning, not someone having learned something
in this case it means that he's like a rug not that he once was a rug
Kirara 🚗
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english has ridiculous pronunciation rules
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English does what it wants to!
Kirara 🚗
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skullface was right
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hey can i ask /moe/ a thing
how many of you feel like there are things you shouldn't still enjoy because it's immature and you're an adult and maybe a professional and you still enjoy it anyway
do you know what i mean
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and I just still enjoy them
Kirara 🚗
i don't really feel like there's anything i shouldn't enjoy
I know what you mean but I don't think there's anything you "shouldn't" do so long as it's not harming anyone
If you're a professional then your free time is yours.
you don't have to subscribe to the idea, just recognize it as a prevalent one
i worded it that way to include both sides of that divide
Kirara 🚗
yeah, it is a prevalent one
i'd agree with that
a lot of people seem to think you shouldn't enjoy things because they're immature
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i would really like to be a children's book illustrator
and writer too but mainly illustrator
i think it would be so fun
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I do what I Want.
Kirara 🚗
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I like how Rika randomly posts stuff like Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah and randomly capitalizes words now
it's Extremely Funny
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I got some enjoyment out of it
whatever i said either made her really excited or so frustrated that she short-circuited again
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If I hit a certain combination of keys, it goes into auto-correct mode.
And for some reason "yeah" comes out as "yeah" a billion times.
To some of you I may actually look like regular bang
In fact, I am actually a sad bang
Kirara 🚗
why are you a sad bang
how can it evolve into a happy bang
if work is cancelled
because I just got home from work an hour ago and I have to go to bed soon
Kirara 🚗
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sleeping is such a pain

getting a full night of sleep is one of the best protective factors against burnout though
sucks man
see you next time
sleep tight
don't let the ekus bite
i said soon
the pain is that i have to work at 5am
it totally puts a giant wrench in my sleep schedule
but if i don't go to bed early enough i won't be able to snap back to normal by the end of the tomorrow
snap back to spaghetti
Kirara 🚗

schedules that aren't the same every day are lame
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Somebody touch ma spaghet
Kirara 🚗
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confirmed trans?????
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stop your giving me a girl boner
Kirara 🚗
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i need mirror strike from oliver tomorrow and swordbreaker and my sanaki should be Pretty Good

i need an odin or something too for blade tome
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Tharja is red blade tome.
Kirara 🚗
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I'm not putting a blade tome on Sanaki.
Her tome is really good.

I'm putting the blade tome on someone else, that's why I need a blue one.
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What blue unit are you building?
Kirara 🚗
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I just need to finish my Summer Corrin.

Sanaki will be a great buffer for her.
Sanaki will give Summer Corrin +5 atk, +5 res, and +3 spd by being within two spaces of her.
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i might give that mirror strike to robin
that would solve her meh attack and res issues and make her a great generalist
Kirara 🚗
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at least oliver is good for fodder
Kirara 🚗
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they're adding new trench terrains
horses can only move one space in them
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Horses can't move in trenches at all, though
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I wish ii had friends to talk to about professional and career things
i don't though because i'm a fucking loser
Kirara 🚗
i bet a cartoon horse can go in a trench
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that was the first cartoon horse that came to mind sorry
that was a shitty post too
i'm just pretty shit at everything dw about it
Kirara 🚗
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it was a fine post
the subtle lies hurt a lot more than the blatant truths
i'm gonna--oh
Kirara 🚗
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sorry i didn't mean to interrupt you
it's fine it's never important anyway
Kirara 🚗
are you sure